>I haven't studied one page of logic in my life but I'm not an NPC

>>509558662 (OP)
> Regurgitating information you've (((studied))) - le good
> Independent critical thinking - NPC

Logic and set theory are funnily enough the most jewish fields of Mathematics and even invented by them lol

>>509558929
What does "critical thinking" even mean to you? Let me guess you were told in public school this totally empty phrase, told you were taught to "think critically", and you believed it.

>>509559012
Logic is not a field of mathematics.

>>509558929
>random totally irrelevant image
>retarded post
every time

>>509559094

ok shizo carry on kek

>>509559125
Grammar, logic and rhetoric were taught before arithmetic, geometry, astronomy and music in the classical education.

>>509558929
Furthermore if you actually open a book on "critical thinking" a big part of the content is logic. So what do you even mean by "independent" critical thinking? If you haven't studied logic you are the one who is regurgitating info. Just your post is regurgitating info.

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>>509558662 (OP)
>says while posting an image of tinfoil hat literally designed to AMPLIFY frequencies, not shield from them

>>509558662 (OP)
If you need to study logic to understand language you are an NPC

>>509558662 (OP)
NPCs are not judged by intellect, but rather the spirit/soul. empathy is the defining factor. your soul is your connection to other soulled people and to "god" and its wisdom.

>>509559073
Critical thinking is basically being hostile to every opinion that is not your own. It's a sick state of mind, ontological paranoia and absolute lack of trust which destroys society. Healthy communities have the same opinion on every basic issue, be it true or false. That's called culture. It is better to be wrong with plenty others, than to be right alone. That is the real wisdom.

>>509560862
*opinion or any information shared by others

>>509560862
>It is better to be wrong with plenty others, than to be right alone. That is the real wisdom.
Vaxxoid cope.

>>509559266
Deep

>>509560685
>I know absolutely nothing about logic but listen to my opinion about logic
>>509560862
no, an NPC is someone who has a conditioned/programmed response to stimuli
https://youtu.be/BhIIPbO_6xg
>>509560862
this is bullshit, again if you actually opened a book on critical thinking you'd see it's something else than the memes you were fed in public school about "thinking critically"

Your replies seem scripted. You need to practice more, Leon. Why are you not practicing?

>>509559073
>>509559122
>>509559437
Abdul u seem mad

>>509561233
great argument, maybe study logic, but I don't expect it from someone who deliberately shits up the board with off-topic images for attention

>>509558662 (OP)
Look it's the conceited jew pushing his outdated aristotelian notion of logic again
Kys kike

>>509561595
>his outdated aristotelian notion of logic
What? So what is your notion of logic?

>>509561474
>deliberately shits up the board with off-topic images for attention

You posted a merchant picture and a retarded greentext. Great quality mate. The thought you tried to express was banal, that a person has to read a book, which is a quite recent technological invention, to acquire personality. In your half baked opinion everyone in prehistory was an NPC. Look, there I thought critically and haven't even read anything on logic.

>>509560940
got me :(

I study cock in hand. Can't do that in the library unless you're a homeless crackhead that the librarian is too scared to confront.

>>509561741
I said nothing about personality. Why do Orthodox Jews study logic at yeshivas? Why are Freemasons informed in the second degree of the importance of studying logic?

Logic is innately subversive and Jewish where everything is relative and nothing is sacred. Cope.

>>509562058
obsession with talmud probably. they are not allowed to write new parts so they have to ruminate the existing stuff ad nauseam. they also enjoy winning a debate, it makes their dick hard

>kneejerk response against studying logic
>kneejerk response that you are not an NPC but everyone who has different opinions than yours is
>kneejerk responses about everything
talking to /pol/acks is like pressing buttons on a robot, talking to AI is more rewarding

>>509562087
it is, it is way harder to express truth in language than to sperg random bullshit while using theatrics to seem credible

>>509558662 (OP)
OP I agree if you are talking about critical thinking which you seem to be

"logic" i.e. philosophical logic looks like pic rel, its worth studying but its not really applicable to what most people need (what most people need is just to be more critical of their own kneejerk reactions)

>>509560862
thats fucking retarded

>>509562719
>thats fucking retarded
no, you having a pajeet PM is retarded ;)

>>509562775
>Healthy communities have the same opinion on every basic issue, be it true or false.
literally zero reason to believe this is true, human history is characterised by bitter disagreements on almost any issue you care to name, other than trivialities

>That's called culture. It is better to be wrong with plenty others, than to be right alone. That is the real wisdom.
by your argument, anyone who went against the grain in human history was what - morally wrong? unwise? that includes the early christians, the reformation, almost any revolution in thought going back to the beginning of human history

even if we ignore the retardation of "majority opinion = good", is that really the conclusion you want to promote?

>>509562719
see >>509559754
Grammar, logic and rhetoric are interconnected, you need all three.

Don't know what you mean by "just to be more critical of their own kneejerk reactions". In public school we were brainwashed to think "thinking critically" is to just sit down and think a little bit, ask some questions, whatever. This is a meme. Worthless. We were not taught to think critically in public school. As I said before when you actually open a book on critical thinking a big part of it is logic.

https://archive.org/details/logicorrightuseo00watt

>>509558662 (OP)
>needing to study
I've been using Socratic questioning to problem solve since I was a child and only learned the term a few years ago. We are not the same.

>>509563004
symbolic logic is too complex for the majority of people outside of an academic setting to get much worth out of, all you really need is an understanding of common fallacies and experience/practice in splitting arguments into their constituent parts (premises, intermediate conclusions, conclusions, axioms etc) and analysing the parts themselves and the leaps between them, making the implicit explicit etc

saying that something is incorrect or suspect because (list of letters and symbols) has much less meaning to most people than saying that it is based on logical fallacies/unsupported assumptions/circular reasoning etc etc

at least, i believe so

>>509563037
>I don't need to study logic, I know it anyway, I have it innate.
It's funny how it's always people who have studied absolutely zero logic who hold this opinion.
>listen to my opinion about this thing I have not studied one iota of, it's the truth, because ... it just is ok

>>509563341
Cope. Logic is intrinsic. You only need to study because you got lost is this fucked up world but its just affectation on your part. You're still a retard, just one that knows how to jump through hoops.

>>509563165
That's logic. I never said absolutely every subfield of logic is necessary for everyone to study, nor did I specifically say "symbolic logic". However you don't have to study very much logic before you encounter basic symbolization, and it's very useful, so I disagree. As for the idea that you just need some common fallacies, no, you need more. Grammar, logic and rhetoric are the tools of thought, the foundation of all intellectual learning. Intellectual learning without a foundation of grammar, logic and rhetoric is just conditioning, it's the sleep-teaching/hypnopædia in Brave New World.

https://gutenberg.ca/ebooks/huxleya-bravenewworld/huxleya-bravenewworld-00-e.html#chapter02

>>509563477
>Logic is intrinsic.
No it's not, that's obvious to anyone who has studied a little logic and sees the lack of logic in 99% of posters on this board.

https://human.libretexts.org/Bookshelves/Philosophy/Fundamental_Methods_of_Logic_(Knachel)/01%3A_The_Basics_of_Logical_Analysis/1.01%3A_What_is_Logic

>>509563930
How exactly do you think agriculture came to be? Logic is not academia you fart sniffing queer. Even high level logic is intrinsic. What you're talking about is sophistry, no more no less.

>>509559012
how fucking anti-intellectual can you get? god damn

>>509560862
i thought about that during the vaxx, if my family got vaxxed i would too, as we get culled together. No point in just living as a lone survivor

>>509562952
>by your argument, anyone who went against the grain in human history was what - morally wrong? unwise? that includes the early christians,

excellent example - the early christians died for their beliefs, and when it was accepted into mainstream, guess what - people didn't become like those early christian martyrs, instead christianity was perverted and debased to the taste of the mob. the mob always wins.

>>509562463
This is true. So why repeat the same threads over and over expecting a different answer? If you spend enough time here you see there are certain ideas / phrases that illicit an immediate response from a certain subset of /pol/ users that is impossible to bypass. They do not care to engage in an honest exchange of ideas.

>>509564875
In addition, you have already set yourself up for failure by adopting an adversarial hostile tone within the phrasing of the OP text in addition to the mocking image.

>>509564060
>How exactly do you think agriculture came to be?
What?

Tell me, have you studied any logic at all? Why are you giving opinions about something you have zero knowledge of, and expect others to "just trust me dude"? Study some logic, it's very useful. They brainwash people to think you don't need to study logic, that you have it innate, and that it would be a boring worthless thing if you would actually study it. They also brainwash everyone to think they are not NPCs and to throw a tantrum at the notion of them being an NPC. Perfect plan, nobody studies logic, nobody thinks they are an NPC, even though everyone thinks 90% of people are NPCs, so nobody rises out of NPCdom.

>>509558662 (OP)
Formal logic is literaly peak NPC. You have to go through a flow diagram to parse stumli.

>>509564985
>brainwash
>brainwash
>brainwash
>while suckling the asshole of academia
Ironic. Cope and seethe.

>>509564875
>>509564941
Nah I've woken up a few sheep. And I don't care for your "stroke with the grain" bullshit, ideas are ideas, if people are insulted that proves my point, nothing is more NPC than being unable to put the ego to the side and have a disinterested discussion about a topic.

>>509565152
>muh academia
nah, most people who studied at university didn't study logic

>>509558662 (OP)
Do you anons ever feel like the conversations that dominate society are corrosive to the spirit?

In Australia, it's particularly striking—there’s a kind of miasma, a poisonous cloud of egregores, that seems to permeate the very heart and soul of the people. It feels like a form of proxy programming. Even if you ignore the media and consciously avoid dominant thought patterns, the general population still projects those thought-forms outward, trying to infect your mental space.

There’s no real escape, because society itself appears to be infected—saturated with the programming of its occupiers.
Sometimes I question whether these people are even real. I don’t mean to dehumanise them, but their behavior often feels scripted. It’s as if they’re running on autopilot.

You encounter the usual types:

> The sportsball fanatics
> The insurance smalltalkers
> The property acquisition class
> The news media parrots

They repeat the same narratives they've been fed. They seem unaware, locked into the same shallow loops of thought as the television they absorb.
It’s as though something alien is occupying their minds—trying to overwrite your own thoughts, replacing them with synthetic media constructs designed for collective programming and trauma-based control.

These people act like a contagion. Wherever they go, they try to replicate their mindset, erasing free thought and supplanting it with the sick logic of their manufactured world.

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>>509558662 (OP)
Why would you need to study logic? It should be intrinsic or at least easily deductible otherwise it wouldn't be logic.

>>509567822
>t. brainwashed

>>509558662 (OP)
you're a boring fucking autist who thinks he's smarter then everyone else. just fuck off twat.

https://archive.4plebs.org/_/search/text/logic/country/SE/type/op/page/1/

>>509562463
as usual, the seething arrogance doesnt take long to come out does it faggot. man, you're such a fucking idiot.

you might have done some beginners reading in logic anon, but you really need to take a long hard look at yourself. you seem like one of those guys that can't ever admit he's wrong. i bet you dont apologize much in your life do you.

its a bad character problem and all the logic in the world cant hide it or fix it anon.