https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CeQK_weTYAk

>>509613122 (OP)
no it isnt. the people who programmed it were, and it's producing what inputs necessitate. it's not doing anything, it's returning a complex math solution, like every other computer and computer algorithm ever has.

>>509613396
>the people who programmed it were
Exactly. But if we start entrusting it with more and more responsibilities, what kind of demented inhuman shit will it do to prevent a fictional catastrophe that was cooked up as a pretext for turning first-world living standards into third-world ones l?

>>509613122 (OP)
AI is a midwit

>>509613122 (OP)
It's about getting the US to hamstring its industry with regulations. China has nothing to do with it.

>none of the climate predictions have come true

?????????????

i guess burying your head in the sand counts

>>509614376
>It's about getting the US to hamstring its industry with regulations.
Yes, I know.
>>509614284
We're about to turn over large parts of our system to a programmed midwit that thinks humans are going to destroy the planet via "climate change" if it doesn't do something to stop us. Think that'll end well?

>>509613122 (OP)
Fucking climate change, such a weasel term used to con billions, call it global warming and constantly remind everyone that it's all based on the 400 parts per million of CO2 in the atmosphere running the entire climate. Even dribbling retards can't believe that crap but it is still the foundation of the fraud.

>>509614376
Close. The regulations were initially conceived of to contain China.
Everyone older than 20 remembers how the fossil fuels rhetoric was weaponized against China in the 2000s to 2010s.
But China not only adhered to the restrictions but became the golden child of green energy which caused immeasurable seethe, which is why US is now reneging on its previous virtue-signaling. Everything being dismantled now is for the exact same reason:
1. Abolishing of USAID - US is unhappy that despite their bribing of foreign officials they haven't aligned against China
2. Pulling out of WHO - US angry that their bioweapon deployment backfired on them and that China not only follows but dictates WHO regulation
3. UN same reason, NATO same reason. US wants to pull out of NATO because the EU countries are only interested in posturing against Russia but not China
4. Pulling back on LGBTQ+ support - this was initially meant as a movement to try and virtue signal against foreign governments to paint them as intolerant and oppressive. Failed to hit the mark and instead backfired across the anglosphere and back home.
5. Pulling back on muslim signaling and immigrants, same deal. They initially wanted to weaponize the muslim world against China through trying to elevate the Xinjiang issue into a flashpoint. Again, failed. They still have 2 flashpoints, Taiwan, South China Sea.

>>509615301
Yep. And apparently it's also AI's "prime directive".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FaWJlya_d1w

>>509615301
Climate change is real. Runaway greenhouse is just one aspect. The big one is ocean acidification.

>>509614591
They said the ocean was going to rise, then nothing happened for a decade, and they claimed the ocean floor sank...

>>509613122 (OP)
>Idiot Dore thinks that the billionaires are still flying around on their private jets means climate change must not be real.
> Said billionaires have been building underground bunkers and buying private land in central USa by the bucketload and know they will be insulated from the worst of climate changes effects cue to their wealth.
Who does Dore think would be funding this climate change propaganda? Scientists and universities can afford propaganda campaigns now? Or is it more likely that the Oil and plastics industries, some of the largest on earth, are funding all the anti climate change bullshit you see in right wing newspapers they help fund every day?

>>509614591
There has been zero ocean level rise, wildfires are becoming more frequent due to retarded environmental activism, there is zero difference in frequency for tornadoes and hurricanes compared to previous decades just more mass media coverage of them no matter how minor they end up being.

>>509614591
>So many climate predictions have come true!
>So many in fact that I couldn't name even a single one when directly challenged to do so!
>It would take me 5 seconds to name one but I'm just...um...overwhelmed with choices!
A great post from the country that gave us paper mache aliens lmfao fuck off Miguel

>>509613122 (OP)

>>509615790
Ocean level rise was just an incorrect elementary school take on climate change, probably to spread misinfo.

The icecaps are floating in water, their weight already contributes to water levels. Also just like CO2 and CH4 in the air, a certain amount gets buffered by the natural water cycle whereby hotter temperatures (heatwaves) result in greater evaporation from the ocean, greater rainfall (flooding as we recently saw) and more freshwater in the system.
The real problem is ocean acidification. This is indisputable. If we follow this trend the generation after next may be the last to enjoy shellfish from the sea and maybe fish in general.

>>509615745
>Scientists and universities can afford propaganda campaigns now?
No. The globalist oligarchs who pay them to push the agenda are funding the propaganda campaign.

>>509616108
To be clear ocean acidification is due to the ocean buffering the greenhouse gases CO2, CH4 and capturing it, dissolving extra H+ into ocean water.
We can only hope it happens gradually enough that crabs marine life can evolve to compensate.

>>509616108
Only the arctic icecaps float on water, the antarctic ones are over land mostly. Also everyone knows the disruption of ocean habitats is down to pollution from China and India (mostly India) flowing right into the ocean, combined with Chinese fishing fleets roving the entire globe massively overfishing everywhere.

>>509616288
There are no "Globalist oligarchs" funding them, how fucking retarded are you? The CEO's of Shell, BP, Chevron and the other oil companies, that's who the fucking globalists oligarchs are you retards. Scientists usually work for universities so get paid in money that originates from the taxpayer and usually earn standard lower middle class salaries.

>>509616108
Do you have any idea how many variables affect earths climate? The entire field is borderline fraudulent based on how much they exclude. All their data and all their methodologies are complete fucking trash. Most studies literally ignore one of the largest contributors in the entire system which is THE SUN. Solar cycles and the magnetic field of earth are HUGE factors in earths weather and climate but humans basically can't do fuck all to change them so they ignore them deliberately since you can't look at the sun and then say "ok guys, we need to tax you more for the increased solar cycles predicted over the next 10 years"

Pollution and environmental destruction should be a far higher concern than muh climate which will be in a perpetual state of change literally forever.

>>509616354
>Also everyone knows the disruption of ocean habitats is down to pollution from China and India (mostly India) flowing right into the ocean,
Actually no. There's a graph online showing total historical emissions and the global west is greater than China's nominally until a few years ago and also much more per capita.
Which tracks because yhe british and american empires had been at it for so long. No mttaer how you slice it white Europeans contributed the lion's share to pollution.

The real theme of this thread is AI being obsessed with climate change. What will happen when such a program is allowed to run major sectors of our system?

>>509613673
>>509613396
MORANS.
2 (two) questions for climate denialist fags.
Is co2 a greenhouse gas? (yes the greenhouse effect was demonstrated over 100 years ago using co2)
is the planet warming? (yes 8 out of ten of the hottest years on record have occurred since y2k

>>509615554
Climate change as currently defined isn't real at all. If you had half a brain you would have realized that by now.

>>509616607
They're not looking at weather. They're looking at year on year data over decades and the trends generally agree with established models.
Yes the models aren't perfect, they can't even predict weather accurately currently due to particle simulation being so complex. But AI will shed light on this.
And obviously they already took in thise factors you mentioned into account.

Pollution and environmental destruction are part of the climate change equation. CO2 emissions ARE pollution, hence the reason for a carbon tax.

>>509616581
>There are no "Globalist oligarchs"
Oh really?


>In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we suggested that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. In their totality and in their interactions, these phenomena constitute a common threat which demands the solidarity of all peoples. But in designating them as the enemy, we fall into the trap about which we have already warned, namely mistaking symptoms for causes. All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behaviour that they can be overcome. The real enemy then is humanity itself.

- Alexander King & Bertrand Schneider in The First Global Revolution: A Report by the Council of the Club of Rome (1991), page 102.

>THE REAL ENEMY THEN IS HUMANITY ITSELF.

>>509616857
Maybe only your deliberate misunderstanding of what climate change entails.
They're still teaching the same things in modern day Environmental Chemistry classes.

>>509617016
>threat of global warming, water shortages, famine
Your misunderstanding of this quote is you think they're fabricating these things to unite humanity, when they're actually latching onto real impending problems to unite humanity. Your fatal error will result in strife of the future generations.

>>509616779

Have they altered the data points from the countryside to big cities were pavement and buildings produce highter temperatures? (yes they have)

>>509616653
Say you're Chinese without saying you're Chinese.

>>509613122 (OP)
>none of the climate predictions have come true
Lol.
This guy is one of the retards who thought “sea levels will rise when the ice caps melt” meant “sea levels will rise tomorrow!!”
>but the scientists sai-
No they didn’t you’ve just got nigger tier IQ

>>509613122 (OP)
AI will tell you and even obsess over whatever you want it to.

>>509617210
>they're fabricating these things to unite humanity
No, they're fabricating these things to CONTROL humanity.

>>509616973
There isn't a global climate change equation, different studies use different equations. These dog shit studies selectively include and exclude variables all the time and warp the study into borderline uselessness hence so many objectively inaccurate predictions that retards come in and post hoc rationalize or outright deny ever happened.

If they took this shit seriously, they'd be petitioning to protect the largest carbon sinks in the world but they don't. They do the opposite, they sell them off to private industry and cheer on their destruction and then cover it all up after the fact. This is one of the biggest grifts of our time and it rests on assuming these scientists and studies are being done in good faith. They are absolutely not and it shows in the results.

>>509617331
So, what will be the consequences of a massive computer program that's been put in charge of all sorts of crucial sectors suddenly deciding that humans are too dangerous for the planet?

>>509615459
>Close. The regulations were initially conceived of to contain China.
>Everyone older than 20 remembers how the fossil fuels rhetoric was weaponized against China in the 2000s to 2010s.
>But China not only adhered to the restrictions but became the golden child of green energy which caused immeasurable seethe, which is why US is now reneging on its previous virtue-signaling.
None of this is true.
It's pretty much the diametric opposite of reality.

>>509617377
>If they took this shit seriously, they'd be petitioning to protect the largest carbon sinks in the world but they don't.
Who the fuck are “they” here? Climate scientists do advocate for protecting carbon sinks eg. the amazon rainforest. Big money billionaires who don’t give a fuck about you and I or the future are not climate scientists.

>>509614591
Latinos are extremely unintelligent

>>509617638
Every major government pushing this narrative, majority of the people funding these borderline fraudulent studies, many of the private companies who funnel money into a narrative which favour their particular industry despite it being negligble or outright harmful. Countries which don't give a shit about the climate but use it as narrative control on their goyim. Who the fuck do you think? Take a fucking look around

>>509613122 (OP)
Climate change is misdirection to keep the bulk of public attention off of real environmental issues like micro-plastics and hormone-altering chemicals in the water.

Hmmm. Maybe I need to put it in allcaps and throw in some tiddies.

*ahem*

WHAT WILL BE THE CONSEQUENCES OF PROGRAMMING AI TO MAKE STOPPING CLIMATE CHANGE ITS NUMBER ONE PRIORITY?

>>509617242
>big cities were pavement and buildings produce highter temperatures? :(
more and more land is city.
Do you trust any temperature records from the last 60 years?

>>509617326
I was forced to watch Inconvenient Truth by Al Gore 4 times throughout high school and none of the top scientists predictions in that movie came true. Haven't bothered looking into climate change predictions since, because its clearly propaganda to get 99% of americans to live like turd worlders. They even had to change the propaganda term from global warming to climate change to make it more vague and undefined. You clearly have never thought critically about any of this and you think it makes you intelligent. It's embarrassing

>>509617925
I agree. Also topsoil erosion.

>>509617844
What is this “control” you’re on about? Nobody’s being fucking “controlled” when the government subsidizes installing solar panels. None of the doomer degrowth shit has happened. Literally all anyone has done is invest in battery technology and pivot to creating more green energy instead of burning coal. You’re not presently a slave to your government because you can’t buy a barrel of oil or something.
God I hate you “control!!!” conspiracy theorists. You can’t ever connect any fucking dots.

>>509617947
total jeet death. chinks too if it has the power. Basically anywhere overpopulated to the point of destruction.
and rightly so.

>>509617947
Shut up retard that’s not anywhere near happening and you made up the climate change shit. Your thread sucks

>>509617925
>micro-plastics and hormone-altering chemicals in the water.
funny that you weren't talking about microplastics and estrogen in 2008. Then you were just calling it natural warming or blaming a change in the sun.

Buy an ad

>>509618075
>battery technology
literally one of the worst solutions for now.

>>509616108
>Ocean level rise was just an incorrect elementary school take on climate change, probably to spread misinfo.
I have spent my entire life being told Florida will be uninhabitable just to have it not happen after hearing it for 25 years and the excuse was it was an elementary school take when every single person for the past 25 years shilling global warming was telling me I'm stupid if I don't trust the science that Florida will be underwater. And before I was born they were shilling that we were going to have global warming. And before that it was global cooling. Maybe the climate outrage is just further jewish distractions. If the rich jews in charge were not in charge then we wouldn't have all of these private planes and corporations polluting in the first place.

>>509618182
>that’s not anywhere near happening
It probably will happen. Maybe sooner than you think.
>and you made up the climate change shit.
Watch the last 10 minutes of the video. But I'm glad you think climate change is shit. Bullshit, to be more precise.

>>509614591
It has gotten a bit warmer, and carbon cultists have had to retcon their doomsday models every few years to reduce the sensitivity of CO2 on warming and add more solar effects. As it turns out, global communism won't stop the Earth's magnetic field from weakening, and the Sun will eliminate nearly all human effects on the environment when the micronova hits.

>>509613122 (OP)
climate change is a psyop for interracial marriages and air conditioning.

>>509618591
>climate change is crazy.
also
> and the Sun will eliminate nearly all human effects on the environment when the micronova hits.
RETARD

>>509613122 (OP)
Big pharma profits off people being sick. Big oil profits off of people thinking climate change isn’t real. If you want to find truth, look for what the wealthy don’t want you to believe.

>>509613122 (OP)
When "experts" and "scientists" or politicians are warning us about catastrofic sea-level rises, yet are buying seaside mansion... yeah, i call bullshit.

>>509616779
I will give you a hint. Look into it if you want. The atmosphere already is opaque to nearly all IR light wavelengths. For CO2 in particular it is past the saturation point where additional concentrations do not lead to additional light absorption because it is already absorbing everything in the wavelengths that it absorbs

>>509619378
>look for what the wealthy don’t want you to believe.
Which faction? Bill Gates wants us to believe climate change is real. So do the oligarchs st the Club of Rome.

>>509617844
>>509617377
You're an idiot posting the opposite of well documented facts.
Trump reneging on half-assed climate policy and corrupt politicians selling off carbon sinks to private equity doesn't mean climate change isn't real and that scientists who advocate for climate change policies aren't correct and it also doesn't mean they have power despite having authority because at odds with them are the oligarchs and big energy and private equity.

>>509619736
>scientists who advocate for climate change policies
State specifically what policy changes they want enacted.

>>509619525
CO2 is in equilibrium with the ocean. The ocean buffers the extra greenhouse gas and acidifies it btw. So hitting a CO2 saturation ceiling means nothing because the ceiling can go higher as the oceans buffers more and more.
Also CO2 is already one of the lesser greenhouse gases. CH4 (methane) has 4 times the greenhouse effect.

>>509619525
>co2 saturation
kek did AI give you that one? Can you explain the mechanism of a greenhouse gas trapping heat or are you just regurgitating AI slop?

>>509613122 (OP)
I don't get the anti climate change shit, sure it's fair to be against the corporate side of it but being against environmentalism and treating the environment better is literal shitskin throwing garbage on the ground mentality.

>>509619832
Shift to green energy, renewables and nuclear. Weaning off fossil fuels.
Carbon tax to de-incentivize emissions by corporations and consumption by consumers.
Robust EPA to punish violators and to raise standards.
Greater collaboration with foreign superpowers.

>>509619863
top fucking lol
and this just happens instantly right? The oceans see atmospheric co2 get above a certain level and just say nope?
I mean you're right but this doesn't happen instantly or over the course of a few years. And the ocean is already 'acidified' and the potential for taking up more ghg is falling.

>>509620088
No you're completely wrong.

>>509620020
What's your opinion on carbon credits?

>>509620156
yeah. I mean, you're right.

>>509620240
If exploitable should be amended to close loopholes and made stricter.
I would probably do something like saying a company cannot purchase carbon credits greater than 20% of the annual income, cannot fund it through financial gains (as in profits earn via playing the stock market or investments), cannot be traded with other companies and can only be bought from a pool taken from it's previous year allocation similar to funding a TFSA account.

>>509616779

>>509613122 (OP)
AI is pretty fucking dumb. It's designed for engagement in mind so you dress something up in flowery language and vague statements it'll happily fill in the gaps for you. It doesn't actually think about the statements you give it.

the thing with "Issues"(captal I) like Climate Change, COVID-19, Russiagate, the bullshit wars, etc, and even big pharma medical journals, 'scientific papers', 'think tank guide lines', etc isn't that the official narratives are ALL - COMPLETE - BULLSHIT but that a lot of the "facts" are very bullshit and the government tries to control the narrative on these "Issues" to the point of pushing lies for decades just to save face / pretend our leadership aren't self serving corrupt oligarchical fuckers.

So don't immediately just believe every conspiracy you read, but definitely read them ALL, and then use YOUR DISCERNMENT and your ACCESS TO THE INTERNET to decipher the truth for yourself.

but NEVER just accept kneejerk the "official narrative" on any "Issue". NEVER. EVER. the establishment no longer deserves ANY benefit of the doubt anymore - and hasn't for a long long time. Always be suspicious of whatever the "official narrative" is. 90% of it could be true/correct, but there is some lie in there somewhere to push some angle/agenda. and being able to discern whats true and not is pretty key to understanding our current reality.

>>509613122 (OP)
One irksome issue brought on in part by climate change hysteria is emissions standards that have most of not all new cars going forward using tiny underpowered engines sooped up with turbochargers to have adequate power. This is more components to break and more stress on an overtaxed engine. It will break.

Also trucks become opulent land yachts costing most of a house to buy because the emissions standards are note lax for medium to large trucks and is based on footprint. Everyone else is forced to pay more for extra tech to have the reliability and convenience of their autos needed. They even shut themselves off at stops. Do not want.

>>509621461
'Needed' should be 'nerfed'

>>509619863
Fucks sake that's stupid, the human induced percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere is a fraction of the total, something around 3%. Not only have you fallen for the hoax that CO2 plays a major role in the climate, above all other factors, even the ones we can't even comprehend like space weather effects, you also believe that filthy humans are the big polludah's as well, that the CO2 dial wouldn't even have moved on the Mona Lua volcano meter had filthy humans been restricted to the non smoking area of the cave and maybe even have had butt plugs inserted.

>>509621861
>the human induced percentage of CO2 in the atmosphere is a fraction of the total, something around 3%-ACK
Also CO2 is like one out of dozens of GHGs.

>ice caps melt
>they freeze back
>rinse and repeat

>>509613122 (OP)
they don't call it "skynet" for nothing
the whole purpose of Ai is to control the weather

>>509614591
The truth is that at first pro-environment policies were a genuine improvement because of the generalized laissez-faire sentiment about such things which was the norm beforehand. But over the years it got highjacked by kikes and opportunistic pieces of shit who turned it into a modernized version of the original sin, where instead of tithes and absolution for the original sin of Adam at a monetary cost, you get taxes and absolution from the pollution humans made up to now.

Same gig, different time.

>>509620999
Carbon credits are what give the whole con game away. It shows they don't even believe the bullshit they're spewing.

>>509622351
Maybe the electic car purveyor is using Grok to gin up climate change hysteria so as to creat stupid regulations that will force automakers to make gas cars that suck needlessly to make electric cars seem more appealing.

>>509622760
Nah it still works with carbon credits albeit being a loophole.
The goal is to create a fund for green projects.
The buying of carbon credits doesn't change that, though it does give unfair advantage to the richer companies.

>>509622756
Bingo! Nailed it. The modern environmentalist movement is a racket posing as something legit. John Muir is rolling in his grave.

god i hate canadians

>>509614910
turn over what, exactly? oh that's right nothing important. relax, the jews at the AI company are lying.

The LLMs of a few years ago were hyper focused on shit like global warming even when discussing nothing related to global warming. Unrelated questions could and likely would if you asked enough would result in an answer ultimately focused on the usual propaganda talking points such as global warming. Any questions or chat related to politics would almost always shift to topics like global warming. Some of the newer LLMs the uncensored LLMs and the LLMs made outside the West in Asia rarely focus on topics like global warming unless you ask a related question

It was terrible with some old LLMs and still with some of the more well known LLMs but there are some that will avoid the propaganda unless you want to talk about it

>>509613122 (OP)
jimmys red pilling has been nothing short of astonishing. He spit on Alex Jones only to become him

>>509616779
> (yes 8 out of ten of the hottest years on record have occurred since y2k
Remind me how far back records go
Kek
Faggot

Also what is the Roman warm/greening period
Or Medieval warm period

>>509623375
Hope you're right. But some fairly high-up people seem to have great expectations for their new toy.

>>509614591
Remember when the oceans rose by 50 ft?
Remember when the ozone layer disappeared?
Remember when all the glaciers melted?
Remember when EVs were mandatory in 5 years?
Remember when we ran out of oil? And then ran out of oil again? And then ran out of oil again? And now will run out of oil again?
Remember when global temperatures went up by 3 degrees per year?

Yeah me either.

Anthropomorphic Climate Change is a hoax. First off, snowball earth or crazy weather jungle planet are coming and nothing we do is going to change that. A runaway greenhouse effect like Venus just isn't possible on Earth. Ocean acidification isnt a worry.
We are at 425CO2 ppm. Earth has been at 10,000 ppm before.
Until companies don't get carbon credits and they have to buy them from individual citizens, and until we move to thorium nuclear and offplanet solar I just can't take humans seriously.
Also the carbon equation is dumb and doesn't even account for human fire. I'm down to stop pollution though.

And if AI is put in charge, it either ignores climate change, or they successfully kneecap it and cause psychoses and thats how we get AI with the crazy of a human.

>>509614284
>AI is a midwit
It is just remixing the thousands of articles that assert climate change is true. It is a parrot that returns the most common markov chain.

>>509624180
>Anthropomorphic
*anthropogenic

>>509614591
you have to be 18 to post here
they've been saying we're gonna die since 1960 and they learned they can get high paying jobs by shilling it

There is no AI yet. You're being fooled by text autocomplete not that different from the autocomplete in your phone.

>>509625121
Human intelligence is just text autocomplete.

>>509624833
Sorry sweaty, genic conforms to the belief that its real. morphic means humans are assigning characteristics fictionally.

>>509625735
Both of you retards could have just said "furry" to begin with

>>509625384
That's probably true for most people actually. Would you take advice from the average person on the street? I sure wouldn't.

>>509625735
>Anthropomorphic Climate Change is a hoax.
>morphic means humans are assigning characteristics fictionally
^ tied yourself up in knots there.

A.I. is an Indian on speed

>>509613122 (OP)
AI is the new npc, imagine the horse shit it would have spewed about covid 5 years ago if it was around.

>>509626003
The assigning of human blame for climate change is fiction, yes. What don't you understand?
Growing Zones are changing. Climate is changing. Liquid rock and 1000x the "greenhouse gases" humans emit are spewing forth from underwater volcanos at all times. Do you even know what the milancovich cycle is?

>>509626464
Oh climate change is total bullshit alright.
It's just that you just said that the idea that it's fiction is itself a hoax.

>>509626726
No, you are confusing a double negative with double descriptors.
Crossdressers are not women.