>>509616773 (OP)
Three little pigs
A furfag should've known better.

>>509616773 (OP)
wood is a good construction material for houses. In the US brick is also commonly used for facades and even certain structural features. this varies on geography because in seismically active areas brick is a poor choice.

>not building home from superior straw

>>509616773 (OP)
Poured concrete is the better option. Wood is better than that shitty third world looking crap on the left though.

you should build only underground bunkers

>>509616773 (OP)
i'm going with the wood house if the brick house is just outer walls and a roof.

Brics will fall apart by a single earthquake.
Don’t know why Americans use wood though

bricks are literally just clumps of dirt compressed into cubes.

>>509616773 (OP)
>Yes little pig, build your house out of twigs!

>>509616773 (OP)
Brick stronk

>>509616773 (OP)
Bricks are dandy until an earthquake hits. We've found out the reason why our ancestors lived in wood houses the hard way.

>1 post by this ID
>prove me wrong

>>509617436
Wood is just flesh of a big plant

>>509617436
Brilliant.
Electric cars are coal-powered, and brick buildings are mud huts.

>>509616773 (OP)
Brick facade is the meta. Total brick is expensive to make and expensive to repair, while brick facade provides the look of brick without the drawbacks

>>509617434
cheap and abundant

>>509617434
Don't the Japanese use brick too? Or do you use metal

>>509616773 (OP)
there's no such thing as a brickworm.

>>509617681
No, Japan uses wood. They have aluminum siding that looks like brick.

>>509616773 (OP)
There's nothing wrong with wood, people are just used to seeing burger dreg construction so they think it's shit.

>>509617434
there is wood everywhere, if anyone actually cared about house durability and longevity they'd just use concrete, cinderblocks, concrete blocks, or sheet metal to make bunkers

>>509616773 (OP)
both can be good
brick is generally gooder

>>509617681
>Don't the Japanese use brick too? Or do you use metal
japanese build their houses out of paper

>>509617815
>day of the match

>>509617815
folded 1000 times it can stop a mortar shell

>>509616773 (OP)

>>509616980
If you're in a stable fault area, poured is the way to go. You can make a partial bunker even and save on hvac. Put in radiant floor heating too

>>509617908
>day of the origami fold

>>509617944
you cant fold a piece of paper more than 7 times or it explodes

>>509616773 (OP)
For me its ICF construction

>>509616895
This.
Monomaterial structures = third world.
In North America (quality) homes are a combination of materials.

>>509616980
>That shitty third world looking crap
>House actually stays intact after natural disasters
kek Americans are fucking imbeciles

There's almost no fire detectors in Europe.
Mainly because of 240Volts and no wood used in buildings.

>>509616773 (OP)
Creative destruction because nothing gold can last.

>>509617998
Can't fold it in half that many times, you can definitely make more folds than that

>>509616980

Lmao look at this poor fag coping

>>509617908
day of the shredder

>>509616773 (OP)
optimal building materials/methods vary based on environment and available materials.
this entire argument is retarded.

>>509617908
day of the emu

>>509617681
If you read anything about early modern Japan one of the most commonly brought up things is that fact that villages and cities would constantly catch on fire. When asked why they don't use other materials they would say 'earthquakes'. When they modernized they tried using new materials then some earthquake in the 1920s practically sent them back to the stone age and they shifted most of their development to Manchuria. Today they don't even bother putting value on houses they expect them to depreciate in value completely in the span of 20 years.

>>509617944
Oragami company headquarters flies away like a kite every typhoon.

>>509616888
FPBP
checked

>>509616773 (OP)
single family houses have a limited lifespan, by design. the problem nowadays is that prices are so high people want their house to last forever and to never move. the current housing stock in america wasn't designed for that. europe is different since you build larger buildings in dense areas and people buy apartments within them. american houses are in suburban areas and made to be demolished after 100 years. sewer and water lines need to be remade, electric needs to be upgraded for modern usage, roofs need to be rebuilt, layout styles change, and building codes are refined.

>>509616773 (OP)
>framing the second story without sheathing the first
Fucking Mexicans, man...

>>509618003
Architecture is the midwit meme
>"me build house with what me find"
>"EEERRRM, CLEARLY BRICK MASONRY IS THE BEST BUILDING FOR ALL HOMES EVERYWHERE, AND IT SHOULD BE ILLEGAL TO MAKE ANY CHANGES TO IT WITHOUT MY APPROVAL
>" Masonry is expensive, let's just use wood as it is cheaper and then use masonry for looks and reinforcement"

>>509616773 (OP)
>americans make houses out of wood.
I have no idea how europeans got this stupid idea, we absolutely don't make our houses out of wood.

We make our houses out of paper, wood is just the cheapest shit we can stick the paper to.

>>509617434
>Brics will fall apart by a single earthquake
I don't know what cataclysmic event you're using as an exception to these incredibly powerful nations, but I admire your hope that japan may one day join brics.

>>509618357
He's right you know. It's called "flexboard" which is just laminated cardboard paper.

>>509616773 (OP)
that kind of brick isnt much better. formed concrete > cmu > icf

Paper beats rock!

>>509616773 (OP)

Because I’m not a retard

>>509618357
>2 bys, sheating, and LVLs weighing 200K pounds
>some drywall, felt paper and house wrap
Retard

>>509618225
>Today they don't even bother putting value on houses they expect them to depreciate in value completely in the span of 20 years.
that's not very different than houses in america, or rather it shouldn't be. accountants use a 28 year period for residential properties, so that's a 3.6% depreciation per year. at least that's what it is on paper, in reality house prices don't reflect that.

>>509616773 (OP)
Wood or steel framed construction is objectively superior to stacked masonry construction in almost everyway. You are just a noengineering retard who doesn't actually know shit about fuck.

>>509616773 (OP)
>Bricks plus Earthquakes = Death
Food flexes in storms and quakes and less damage to foundation when settlement sets in

>>509616895
Brick houses were built for cold climates to help trap heat. We have indoor heating now though, so it's not really necessary anymore. Looks cool though.

>>509617780
Bitch these are filing cabinets

>>509618482
>concrete
https://www.quora.com/Why-does-concrete-dissolve-in-the-rain-so-quickly-that-it-s-useless

>>509618196
Emu lost to the militia. It was a flawless victory too.

>>509617436
to be fair they do make the dirt very hot for a little bit

American bricks before 1930 were better. Notice how much longer the old brick is.

The old brick wasn't as crumbly as modern bricks either.

>>509618914
Brick is worse for cold climates. You can certainly get types which better for cold or the dual gap 1 foot thick ones.

>>509619294
timber used to be sturdier too. modern lumber is cultivated to grow as quickly as possible so they have fewer rings and less strength

>>509619352
If you're building a house, the brick is made to increase it's ability to trap in heat. Older bricks tend to be terrible at it.

>>509616969
only works in high trust societies

>>509616773 (OP)
Everything degrades over time. If your home is infested with mold, you can just burn the wooden home down, but the brick home will be there to inflict mold sickness for centuries to come.

Of course, why stop at making bricks smaller and less strong. Let's also perforate them to save on material and shipping costs. Then they will be even weaker and shittier.

>>509618917
Yeah that's how you keep your files safe, who's going to look in the fucking walls?

>>509616773 (OP)
any downsides to this?

>>509619497
looks like they would also be really good at trapping water inside of them and then breaking when that water freezes in the winter

>>509619354
If you have a fire place, you don't want a house made of wood.

>reddit screenshot
>reddit screenshot of a twatter screenshot
>reddit screenshot of a twatter screenshot from some [spin the wheel of lgbt] sexual furfag
Lol

>>509616773 (OP)
wood house is better for cabling and wifi signal

>>509619575
>any downsides to this?
somebody driving a lawnmower over your house when you're trying to sleep

>>509618002
I like hempcrete bricks. I found one company that says their bricks are strong enough to take structural loads and you can join them without mortar.

>>509616773 (OP)
Do you guys know how much a single brick costs? It's very expensive. Much cheaper to build out of lumber.

You faggots that cry about how expensive housing is (its not) would shoot yourselves if those same houses were made out of brick and priced at 5x higher. Btw, anyone who makes over 60k a year can afford a beautiful 250k home. You're just an insatiable faggot that just HAS to live in a major city. Can't be me, making 120k a year and feeling i earn 500k a year because my mortgage is $1100.

>>509619575
structures built into the earth are actually awesome, cooler in summer and cozier in winter

>>509618002
This. Currently in the process of stacking walls for my first floor. The insulation and soundproofing are insane

>>509619731
That's a values question. Brick is more expensive right now but it lasts much longer. Wood is cheaper right now but it doesn't last as long. Are you building a valuable contribution to your community or a disposable product?
>Um ackshually with the right construction they last pretty long and
Paco and Juan are not building to that standard and no American is maintaining the home to that standard so there's no point bringing this up.

>>509619662
Goats are the superior lawnmower, they also serve multiple purpose in home defense and milk production.

>>509619575
check your water table before you try it anon

>>509616888
/thread

>>509618354
You wouldn't want a 100% masonry house. Strategic use of masonry for exterior facades and interior accent walls looks great, but majority brick construction it has severe limitations (heating cooling & insulation, occupant comfort, material weight & ground pressure, moisture, ability to accommodate utilities, and its lateral load bearing ability sucks unless you go full medieval). Labor costs also fucking suck for 100% brick construction, and it severely limits your ability to renovate floorplans.

>>509619731
Antique bricks are about $1 each. I've actually considered buying old brick schools for the bricks alone. Detroit and St Louis are a gold mine, but the people who live there are too dumb and lazy to take advantage of it.

>>509619294
A few weeks ago i was renovating the floor (pouring concrete) of my family barn that was built back in the early 1800s. When clearing up the debris fro mthe floor i found some old bricks, had the year 1892 printed on them. Holy shit, they were massive, and still completely intact. Mogged the shit out of modern bricks.

>>509619916
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgvDXAHHCEE

>>509617434
We use wood because it's cheaper.
It's really as simple as that. the government doesn't care about the construction quality as long as it won't easily fall apart on its own for a couple decades. profit margins above all is the motto of the US.

>>509616773 (OP)
This fucking retardation again. If you built the one on the left in California, you might as well killdozer it the day you finish it, because that is its unavoidable fate.

>>509616895
They use fake rucks with holes in thrm so they can use metal straps to nail the bricks to wooden walls with mexican shit paper and piss bottlee for insulation

>>509616969
I agree fellow pigs
We should continue using only straw
Brick is bad for the environment

>>509616773 (OP)

>>509619575
If you like everything covered in mold it's fine

>>509622666
found the culprit, satan

>>509622666
If only that wood frame was reinforced with other materials... you are very smart!

>>509616969
kek

>>509616888
/thread
Its clearly a plot of the wolves

>>509622666
>Frame an entire 3 story house with only temporary cross bracing and no structural sheathing

Incompetent builders. It does look like an extreme weather event, but that's still incompetence.

The best house is one CNC machined out of one giant piece of granite.

>>509624534
>Differential settlement
>Frost heave
>Literally cracks your shit in half
ISHYGDDT

>>509624756
>he can't manipulate matter with his mind

>>509616888
/thread

>>509616773 (OP)
Croncrete is the most superior and is what the true elite does. Civil engineers make the best houses.

>>509617908
I cackled. It's a really spectacular building style though. They're like wizards.

>>509625018
It has advantages.

Drywall is gypsum stone. Americans build their homes out of crystals.

>>509618003
here in colorado, the houses are concrete foundations with the interior walls being made of wood. it makes sense to make the interior, non-load bearing walls wood since they're more easily manipulated for renovation.

>>509619524
This is why straw huts are so prevalent in Africa
>>509619575
It’s fine if you have a moisture barrier and somewhere for the excluded moisture to run off to

>>509616888
>>509616773 (OP)
Jet Fuel CANNOT melt Steel

>>509616773 (OP)
Amerimutts love huffing in mold from their cardboard and laminate shit holes.

>>509624756
Space laser it fixed you dumbass.

>>509617570
>he'd rather have a house of compressed mud than a house made of the chopped up, desecrated corpses of trees

>>509622666
Many such cases

>>509617681
>>509617729
>>509617815
Uh 4chanbros?!? I thought only heckin great satan Muttmerica used wood, you are telling me pure Aryan homogeneous anime Japan we love uses wood too?!?

>>509624534

Reminder also that the only reason Brits and continental Euros don't use wood is they tore down and destroyed all their forests and nature, so they were required to make fake synthetic material like bricks for houses out of necessity
That is why the few places in Europe that did not chop down their forests (namely Scandinavia) also use wood

>>509629693
nothing more emblematic of the current state of america than the average white guy wage slaving his whole life for mr sheckleburg in order to afford the morgage to buy the house built by beaners that will fall apart and give him a lifetime of struggle trying to maintain.

>>509617729
isnt aluminum siding like a boomer meme? I didnt think it was real. Pretty sure "aluminum siding" is a phrase to mean a scam not dissimilar to "nigerian prince".

>>509616969
lmao
thats right goy... i mean little pigs, build your houses out of hay or wood!!

>>509616773 (OP)
Wood houses are easier to build, easier to maintain, easier to run services through, easier to insulate, and easier to tear down when you inevitably want something bigger and better in 40 years.
80% of the value is in the land anyway, why would you build a house to last longer than your requirement for it?

>>509616773 (OP)
Superior by what metric?
Amount of wood used?

Left one won't be eaten by termites or blown away by small typhoon.
It will last much longer than twig shed on the right.

>>509631130
>why would you build a house to last longer than your requirement for it?

Generational wealth

>>509616773 (OP)
Get a civil engineering degree, then you will know why wood is better.

>>509616773 (OP)
framing >>>> bricklaying

https://youtube.com/watch?v=GP-JfA5RPLs

Good thing China and Russia wont need nukes to burn down americans, simple incendiary bombs will suffice

>>509616773 (OP)
If you build using modern gravel brick like this which is full of tiny air pockets, they are extremely good insulation unlike wood.
So especially in cold environments, but also in hot ones, the savings in energy costs are absolutely massive due to the humongously better insulation it provides.
Not to mention modern brick like that lasts hundreds of years, wood only lasts long if you use old growth wood and don't cut it but make it in the log cabin style, and it still doesn't last as long, especially in warm and humid environments.

And like the other anon said, generational wealth. You can have the grandkids of your grandkids inherit the house that you built, and have it still stand.

>>509616773 (OP)
>muh wood
Where's the timber frame?

Wooden houses can be fine. It's just the quality of some of the US ones that's weird. And possibly wood as thin as possible

>>509619556
the holes are for mortar, dumbass

>>509631806
>bananas on pizza
fucking weirdos

kinda pumped for these new perlite blocks. no mortar, dry stack. i think they're fuckin expensive though.

>>509631879
That’s not even the worst part. The curry is.
Cultural enrichment was a mistake.

>>509631879
> Memeflag
Kill yourself jeet

>>509631980
I like the addition of curry powder.
I just don't want it with peanuts

I can't afford neither now or in ten years, and could never afford it before, the end! lol

Eternally homless.

>>509631806
That shit looks runny like my diarrhea dawg

>>509631933
why do they all look like multi-level marketing scheme scam grifters

>>509619575
The ground above will absorb more water so there will be damage to the roof unless you can funnel it away

>>509616888
fpbp

>>509616969
kekked

>>509621454
>Mexican shit paper and piss bottles for insulation
This man has worked some construction before.

>>509616888
FPBP!!!!!!!!

>>509632020
You’ll hang at galgbacken with the rest of the browns, nigger.

>>509616773 (OP)
Not one or the other, both together are superior.

>>509631980
>>509631981
I'm from Argentina, which means, I'm a expert in pizzas between many other things and you weirdos should be nuked for putting bananas on a pizza

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2Wvd6PzgbWE

>>509617509
>t. gonna die of heat stroke soon from no AC

>>509617780
Kek made me laugh thanks

>>509631130
In a fire or flood prone area, I'd want masonry construction.
In an earthquake prone area, stick framed all the way.

>>509616888
ekeke

I want to live in a concrete cube

>>509616773 (OP)
I don't know if it's just a zoomer thing, but has anyone noticed that nobody explains their argument anymore? What I mean is nobody ever tells you WHY they think a given thing or why another person should agree with them. When you ask for them to explain their reasoning, they instantly turn hostile and angry. It's like people just expect you to agree with a certain loadout of beliefs because you're supposed to and that knowing what your beliefs are is mostly irrelevant. You're just "outside the tribe" if you don't agree.
It's crazy how quickly we're regressing. You can tell in the way people speak and write that they don't think about how things work or why they do. It isn't just niggers either. People need very basic instruction and constant hand-holding, nobody has any independent thought. Whenever I'm forced to see contemporary TV/movies, every character is explaining what they're doing and feeling in the most obvious way possible. Subtext? What's that?
It's kind of depressing and alienating, honestly. You try to talk to someone and for a moment you think maybe you're speaking to another human with the spark of life. Then you say something that doesn't follow their flowchart, or you ask them to expound on an idea and you can see their eyes scramble around in panic and then they shut down. Eventually you stop bothering to talk to anyone.

>>509616888
fpbp this literally can't be argued against

Proper 40cm logs are better than both

>>509618009
>intact
Show me a brick house surviving a tornado

This is a perfect home, I would cover the top part with a roof and the rest of the side dome would be net so it can keep animals out but air flowing.

>>509618914
You also have AC so why not make your homes out of brick and mortar?

>>509631501
You don't have to hand down some out dated shit shack, you hand down the land and cash.

>>509632083
Because that product is a tech bro scam

>>509631501
Good idea! Build generational wealth with the depreciating component (the building) rather than the appreciating component (the land)!

>>509622666
But what will we do without all that Mexican construction labor