Imagine THIS was your starter car and it only costed you 5 weeks working your summer job in high school

>>509631841 (OP)
Most cant afford them and cars are very expensive to maintain as well as insure.

>>509631841 (OP)
Because car culture was white and based. Watch American Graffiti

>this costs 15k used which will put someone into debt for a year on top of gas, maintenance and repairs

No wonder kids are saying fuck you to cars, this shit is retarded. Every car is an ugly fucking blob with no redeeming features that they NEED to survive, the roads are filled with retarded browns who will eventually wipe out your savings and jack up your insurance. Even luxury sports cars are made with fucking chink plastic interiors that click and snap and bend and squeek.

how does one go from this

to THIS

>>509631841 (OP)
Government regulations have created the current vehicle form factor, remove those regulations that are in the cookie cutter shape of current cars

>>509631961
White race has an unsurmountable advantage. Doesnt matter what the chinaman does -we did it first and better

youtube.com/watch?v=Q7Pmgq2JKbI

>>509632184
aggressive regulatory and managerial class bullshit to "protect" something that didn't need protecting.
>no but your car has to look shit because IF IT ONLY SAVES ONE PEDESTRIAN THAT'S HIT BY A CAR IT'S WORTH IT

>>509631841 (OP)
I went through the same thing.
Thought I just didn't give the slightest fuck about cars until I started looking at 90s to early 2000s japanese sports cars.

>>509631841 (OP)
Cause they can't afford them. Too many subscriptions that zoomie wants to pay for before a car payment.

>>509631841 (OP)
I have a car, but I like riding my bike and it really keeps me from putting on weight.

Cars are literally just a tool to get your from point A to point B. All that matters is fuel efficiency and safety.

>>509631841 (OP)
I like cars, but I only own 4x4s atm.

Cars are literally just a tool to have fun and make you look good. All that matters is speed and design

>>509632603
Also cars are genuinely 0 fun if they've got an automatic transmission. And most cars are auto nowadays.

>>509631841 (OP)
>Why aren't people into things they've been priced out of
>mental gymnastics

>>509631841 (OP)
They wouldn't be against them if the car was a piece of garbage made in a God-forsaken socialist shithole and handed out to them after a lifetime of hopeless, dehumanizing servitude.

Trannybant intensifies.

>>509631928
Younger generations don’t know the joy of cruising with your girl while she sits in the middle seat of the front bench.

>>509631841 (OP)
Firstly, our increasingly electronic and automated society means less young boys are even interested in controlling large, mechanical vehicles; they'd rather play their little handheld video game phones. Secondly, there's just too many people, you can't really take a care out and do fun stuff, i.e., drive fast, etc. Just too many others on the road; plus, these are others who (see first reason) don't even want to be there, so modern driving is an exercise in frustration rather than a joy.

>>509631841 (OP)

Not a zoomer, but cars are very expensive and so is the insurance for someone just starting their life out. Most zoomers I come across do want to own a vehicle, but cars are no longer built reliably, they are expensive and the insurance is basically a scam.

On the other hand, most zoomers in the US look at places like korea and see trains metro and so on. The services are reliable cheaper than owning a vehicle

>>509631841 (OP)
Cars are lame. We need walkable cities for the health and safety of everyone. Use your legs you fat fucks.

Total automobileindustryshillfag death

>>509633187
also there's speed cameras everywhere

>>509631841 (OP)
America has become more socialist, and the worldview that personal car ownership fits into is opposed to the socialist worldview

>>509631841 (OP)
Cars look like eggs now because eggs have the best fluid dynamic properties.

>>509631841 (OP)
When I was a kid my dad owned pic related and my faggot brother was always embarrassed to drive. I lost my virginity to my high school girlfriend in the back of it.

>>509631841 (OP)
They can't afford cars

>>509631841 (OP)
"vintage" kys boomer
cars stopped being beautiful after 1941

>>509633346
>safety of everyone
good luck with that shit if you live near niggers.

>>509633486
True. In a proper socialist society you're supposed to be a on a waiting list for 5-10 years to get a car, apartment, etc, just like they used to in the USSR.

>>509631841 (OP)
every modern car in north america is a massive truck or a bulky SUV.

>>509631841 (OP)
CARS ARE EXPENSIVE AS FUCK
this car costs more than 5 million indian dollars

>>509632517
2 MW per ocean dildo.

meanwhile a single wind turbine does 12 MW alone with a fraction of the cost in materials and engineering.

>>509632603
The 350Z is excellent but you'll probably kill yourself by accident

>>509633486
The Lada Riva is one of the best-selling cars in history. They were just retards that didn't plan for a country where many people still used horses and carts to want a car.

>>509633680
You would think Europeans would understand the nigger question by now considering the raping and stabbing

>>509633775
And a nuclear reactor does 1000+ MW with a fraction of the materials of other sources.

>>509633486
all fine and well, but americans didn´t invent the car, you fags only learned how to mass produce them.

>>509631841 (OP)
It's ridiculous how much money you have to spend these days to keep a shitbox running, especially in North America. Car ownership absolutely rapes your wallet, even if you do a lot of the repair work yourself.

Modern cars are so fucking trash and it comes down to a few dumb current things
>big screen on the dashboard
If this screen doesn't work, the car is undrivable
>buttons to change to Reverse, Drive, etc instead of an automatic stick
This might be the worst idea I've ever seen.

>>509631841 (OP)
It's actually millenials that hate cars because cars (including used cars) give people the freedom to travel further. This is also why they oppose high-speed rail.

>>509633847
>a fraction of the materials
Labour is a material
How much did Hinkley Point cost again?

5 times more than planned?.

>>509633923
Most of the cost of running a car is just taxes and fuel (which is also heavily taxed).

>>509633486
Traffic jams are a characteristic of a Third World country.

>>509631841 (OP)
everything sucks because it has to be idiot proof

>>509633983
Nope. If you only have $10K or less to drop on a car, these days that's getting you a 10+ year old car that will develop mechanical issues on a regular basis. My brother's Honda Accord had the key stop turning one day, so he couldn't start it. Now he has to figure out how to rig up a pushbutton to avoid spending $300 on parts for a new lock and programmed key. If he took it to a shop, it'd be $600+ to fix.

>>509633923
Cheaper than a car payment (not worth the stress though).

>>509633970
Ignoring the fact that we are nowhere near 0% unenployment, labour is also known as jobs. A few thousand people working on a construction site for years is less of a drain on the overall workforce than a ton of people going around installing solar panels and wind turbines.
Things are slow and expensive when the experience and supply chains aren't there, then they get faster and cheaper, like what happened with solar panels and wind turbines.

>>509633938
Every car owner I know drives back and forth like a mindless ant along the same route on a regular basis. I don't own a car, and I wander freely because the money I would've spent on a car now goes to world travel.

>>509634013
Straight lines and box shapes timeless oval shapes lose their appeal after a while,

>>509634133
The steering lock is engaged.

>>509634133
>10+ year old car that will develop mechanical issues on a regular basis
Literally never had a car newer than 2007 and never had a car break down on me.

>>509633938
>said the retard zoomer

>>509632184
they're made out of plastic polymers now, thats why

>>509634133
You can get a decent used car for £3k if you're careful when buying it. This is why the elites want to force electric cars.

>>509633182
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qW9mZLnQ7Yc

>>509631841 (OP)

I want a 1995 Supra so much bros. And a 1969 Camero Z28

>>509634164
They also need constant maintenance and ironically have more waste than nuclear and need the constant use of petroleum products to make and maintain.

>>509634013
Back in the 90s I was a kid obsessed with cars, and I thought those boxy bodies looked hideous.
Now kids (and manchildren) obsess over those things.

People just yearn for the past.

Good news on change though

>>509631841 (OP)
I think cars are cool but in a different way. I like commercial vehicles like utility workers and the electronics and communications, lights, winches and tools in them, etc. and how durable they are.
Im actually in the market for a new pic related for my company.

>>509631841 (OP)
Because fuck spending 2 hours a day stuck in traffic, nigga. Why pro-car anti-urbanists haven't understood this?

>>509631841 (OP)
They aren't anti car they just want nice cars like all their influencers got for doing essentially no real work. Zoomers do NOT want to roll around in overpriced garbage 20 year old cars like we millenials did. The entire used car market is being kept inflated by immigrants.

>>509634330
>When cars were boxy I was obsessed with cars
>now kids only like boxy cars
>clearly kids just like the past

>>509633832
euros are idiots and dont even understand why someone would defend their family from a nigger raping their wife in the ass.

>>509634191
You're a retard. Cars let you do a lot more things than just commuting because being able to carry a family and their stuff gives you lots of options. Even for commuting, cars let you drive further, which means that you have more jobs to choose from compared to if you were restricted to walking and cycling.

>>509632184
>>509632150
(((Regulations))) and aerodynamics.

>>509634378
The car market got fucked when Obama Implemented Cash 4 Clunkers, essentially genociding millions of perfectly great cars off the market to force people to buy new cars. Obama ruined everything.

In America Cars are like Hermit crab shells. A car trades hands 3x and it lets everyone afford it. That was the system, and it worked.

>>509634357
>Don't invest in public transport infrastructure
>Use this as an excuse to destroy road infrastructure
I hate bikefags.

>>509634164
If the point is "produce power cheaply" Nuclear isn´t it.

Solar/Wind/Hydro is.

>>509634405
We don't have wives or kids, we don't own houses. There goes a lot of the reason for owning a car. Choosing to work a job 40 miles away from home is stressful and stupid. In my US town, everything I need is less than two miles away. Stress-free and amazing for saving money. I save 75% of my paycheck, which by American standards is small (usually less than $3000 per month).

>>509632150 had standard sealed beam headlights that you could find in any auto parts store anywhere in the country

>>509632184 has LED headlights that will have to be special ordered when they burn out prematurely and cost a small fortune
also you'll probably have to remove half the engine to get at them

You want me to drive a car?

Like my mom does? This guy be capping frfr

>>509631841 (OP)
Most zoomers have been raised by single whores and grew up fatherless bastards.
Single whores usually have either some of those tiny woman cars made to compensate for a huge gaping vagina, something equally shitty but larger or simply no car at all.
Single whores barely teach their bastards how to drive or do anything car related. When they hit driving age, they might simply unload them onto driving instructors.

tl;dr the zoomer bastard generation grows up without any fun memories involving cars.

>>509634191
>>509633923
>>509634011
>>509634133
you forgot to turn off your VPN, Avi

>>509634491
Only thing is, they weren't perfectly great cars. They were gas-guzzling shitboxes. Dodge Neons and Ford Explorers (the latter famous for their transmission failures).

>>509634494
Poland has excellent road infrastructure, and traffic is light along most roads because so many people walk and bike. You can absolutely have both.

Modern sportscars still look good, new mustangs look amazing and I hate Ford. I have an RCF though, only con with it is they don't make it in manual but a reliable V8 from Japan that sounds amazing was a good selling point to me.

>>509631841 (OP)
Having a car fucking sucks. Being stuck in a traffic jam for 5 minutes is enough for you to push your car into a lake

>>509634655
Ever heard of travel? I don't have a car and my landlord isn't Jewish, so I'm not stuck at home working to pay bills like you are.

>>509634556
LCOE is designed to inform private investors. Your home/office/factory/whatever is plugged into the grid, not directly into the power station. Overcapacity, storage, and grid upgrades cost money. This is why Norway (which uses hydroelectricity) and France (which uses nuclear power and hydroelectricity) have cheaper bills than Germany and the UK, who went with solar wind, and gas.

>>509634618
>Just eat the bugs and live in the pod! Don't bother looking for a job with better pay or conditons that is further away than walking/cycling distance!
Kill yourself.

>>509631841 (OP)
The same strategy used by woke fucks; If you can't have it, ruin it for everyone else.

>>509632184
Nacho flavored car

>>509631841 (OP)
I mean that's partly right. Car culture died mostly because new cars started look like pure shit.

>>509634491
Cash for clunkers only ran from July 2009 to August 2009 and only scrapped 677,081 cars. That is less than one month's worth of new car purchases. Blaming the inflated price of used cars on that program is an actual honest psyop similar to how globohomo blames outrageous housing prices on the cost of lumber.

>>509634732
Poland has one of the highest rates of car ownership in Europe. Retard.

>>509631949
No they arent

Cars are for women no ifs ands or buts

>>509631841 (OP)
>zoomers are all losers
>zoomers can't even get cars

>zoomers try to make cars seem uncool
and this is why zoomer women fuck millennial men. get fucked cucks.

>>509634810
>Overcapacity, storage, and grid upgrades cost money.

Everything costs less than a nuclear reactor.
I´m not anti-nuclear, but you can´t ignore the upfront cost.
Literal billions.

https://balkangreenenergynews.com/nuclearelectrica-to-sign-deal-on-new-cernavoda-reactors-start-preliminary-works/

And like clockwork there will be cost overruns. Because it´s Nuclear. There are always cost overruns with Nuclear..

>>509631841 (OP)
Cars and their consequences have been a disaster for the human race. They've greatly exacerbated the atomization of society. The sooner cars are banned the better.

>>509635230
Just kys

>>509631841 (OP)
I'm just not getting a car is all. hahahaha just not gonna drive

>>509631841 (OP)
Imagine working 8 hours a day yet not even being able to afford a car in a place where you need a car to go anywhere.

>>509634328
What petroleum products? You think lubricating transmissions is rocket science?
Electric cars use oil products too.

>>509635463
Well, most other sources aren't blasting them into the the ground of what used to be untouched wilderness.

>>509634987
>677,081 cars
Givesnumber with 6 significant figures. How could we possibly know you are a spread sheet satanist, managerial gaslighting boomer?

>>509635593
Blame the companies and government for doing that, nothing stops you from feeding the ocean some car batteries and dumping oil into the drain. Besides fines, if someone is there to fine you.

>>509635463
Ye, good luck "replacing your oils" without breaking one of the septillion interconnected sensors and interwoven electronics all over your cuck shitbox, you contrarian fucking nigger.
>drive over pothole
>entire dashboard system blue-screen of-deaths
>HECKIN turn your car on and off again lemayow

>>509635377
Just but toy car models if you're so interested in how cards look. It can't be argued that they're a detriment to society.

>>509634556
>Solar/Wind/Hydro is.
uhh.....no....no mater how much you read that in your little wef propaganda 101 manual.

New cars are FUCKED. They have turned driver seats into baby seats. Fuck every single one. You can't even buy one with any amount of money that is not shit. It's over.

>>509631841 (OP)

>>509635874

>>509633775
>Wind turbine
Lol your gay

>buy a fancy expensive car
>can't even drive it because there's a average speed camers on every corner
>every speed limit reduced
>unlimited suply of kamikaze cyclists with gopros
>yeet in every truck doing his best to kill you

lmao

>>509635866
There's so much dumb shit in there. If you turn off the car, an alarm beeps to remind you to check the back seat.

>>509632517
>gunpowder

>>509635898
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PiBbKPyuAG8

>>509632095
You can buy much better older cars but yes the pricing even for those isn’t what it used to be even 10 years ago.

>>509635211
>How can bills be cheap if the upfront cost of the power station that generates lots of electricity is expensive?
Retard.
https://medium.com/generation-atomic/the-hinkley-point-c-case-is-nuclear-energy-expensive-f89b1aa05c27

>>509635780
>this never happens with ICE cars, ever.
actual lol.

>>509635865
>your little wef propaganda 101 manual.

dumb non argument.

>>509635230
Cars, buses, trains, etc. are just the horse and cart, but better.

>>509631841 (OP)
>Why are zoomers so anti car?
They can't afford them

>>509636059
>dumb non argument.
https://ec.europa.eu/eurostat/statistics-explained/index.php?title=Electricity_price_statistics

>>509633938
>It's actually millenials that hate cars
gawd what a moron, millenials DO realize high trust societies are basically gone and private transportation is massively safer.
>>509633346
>We need walkable cities for the health and safety of everyone.
no we don't, retard.
>>509633832
>>509634401
Oh they do alright, if you ask actual people and not sponsored disinfo farm bots.

>>509636057
>cost of bills

I´m not talking about bills.
I´m talking about 1000MW of nuclear vs 1000MW of Solar/Wind/Hydro.

Whats cheaper to build and operate?

Old millennial here. I don’t have a car I use uber when I need. My bitch drives me everywhere else. Fuck cars.

>>509631961
Managed to survive into the '00s in some form as well, boomers may not have approved but we were still going strong up in the canyons with our 240SXs, Integras, RX-7s, etc., and even if you were dirt poor you could get a '80s or '90s Civic with a stick and lots of aftermarket.

Zoomers are fucked now though, nothing cheap except souless appliance crossovers and the few cheap RWD things left are all getting wrecked by niggers doing donuts into each other in intersections. It's tragic and it's hard to see how a car culture could exist anymore. Not to mention none of them can afford a house with a garage to work on stuff in either, and that's if you even CAN work on it without having to own thousands of dollars worth of diagnostic and coding tools.

>>509633486
>Americans are le individualists
America is a bugmen hivemind society and one of the most collectivist cultures on the planet that somehow deluded itself into thinking it's individualist.
Americans think it's normal to randomly talk to strangers on the streets, waiting next to you in a line, or when riding a fucking elevator.
Their suburban McMansion neighbors are glued to their windows 24/7 because they feel entitled to know what's going on inside.
Americans have "neighborhood associations", something you can't even find an analogy for in European and East Asian cultures, it's basically Sharia Police that enforces "public morals" concerning your house, they will evict you if you paint your house "inappropriately".

Think about american politics, the left wing thinks niggers are poor because systemic racism, the right wing thinks niggers are poor because they're genetically inferior. Both are predicated on a belief that all niggers are a single hive cluster that can only fail or succeed as a whole, it's entirely incomprehensible to an american bugman that maybe those niggers are just losers on an individual level, and there are plenty of nigger politicans, athletes, actors, and musicians who are individually succesful.

Ironically, China and Japan are the opposite, both of those countries are social-darwinist ancapistans that delude themselves into thinking they're collectivists. China doesn't have social security, and you wouldn't be able to explain to them the point of it, they genuinely believe that poor people deserve to starve to death for being losers.

>>509636171
>Pretending that 1000MW of solar and wind is the same as 1000MW of nuclear power
>Lumping in reliable hydroelectricity with unreliable solar and wind
>Pretending that power stations exist in a vacuum instead of being part of the overall grid
>Ignoring that the entire point of power stations is to make electricity for the grid
You're a retard. Kill yourself, memeflag.

>>509636097
Yeah no shit other forms of transportations existed before them but they don't have the same destructive potential.

>>509636377
>Nobody has ever been run over by a horse
>Roads and rails didn't exist before cars and trains
Actual retard.

>>509631841 (OP)
>Sports car
>Offroad car
Apples and oranges much?

>>509636332
>Americans have "neighborhood associations", something you can't even find an analogy for in European and East Asian cultures, it's basically Sharia Police that enforces "public morals" concerning your house, they will evict you if you paint your house "inappropriately".
That one is still individualism. They don't do this for the betterment of their community, they do it just to ensure that property value stays high so that someday they can resell their home at a higher price.

>>509636419
I'm talking about the destructive potential in regards to society obviously.

>>509631841 (OP)
modern cars are cuckmobiles

>>509636474
Cars aren't destroying society. Also the unabomber was the equivalent of a terminally-online NEET.

>>509634299
my nigga
I knew what this would be

>>509636607
>Cars aren't destroying society.
They already have.

>>509632393
This is why the cooler looking cars are coming out of China these days

>>509636348
>Lumping in reliable hydroelectricity with unreliable solar and wind
>unreliable wind
>in the UK.

kek, fucking retard.

>Pretending that 1000MW of solar and wind is the same as 1000MW of nuclear power

Yes, 1GW of Wind is 1 billion and 1GW of nuclear is 7 billion, if you´re lucky, if not it´s 9.
They really are not the same.

>>509636690
Wrong. You are idealising a vision of the past that never existed. Kill yourself.

It's for your safety go- er consumer

>>509633581
love and marriage its an institute like horse and carriage

>>509635625
The exact number is known because the program required filling out paperwork retard. Otherwise you didn't get paid

I've recently noticed a really pronounced decline in the quality of drivers. I don't live in a major city but I'm am in a growth area along a major highway outside of 2 major city so changes there make their way here eventually. In the past year it's been like somone flipped a switch and suddenly no one can fucking drive anymore. And when i say pronounced I mean really pronounced. Like going out intonareas I've been thusands of times before and having multiple close calls in a single day just driving along same as I ever have. I see a major accident happen in front of my face what seems to be like every other week now. Illegal passing practicallyplaying god damn chicken with trucks, running redlights and stop signs and getting slammed for it, merging directly into people, merging without yeilding to oncoming traffic, suddenly turning without a signal making people slam on their breaks, not checking for pedestrians who have the green at cross walks nearly running people over or having to slam on theirnbreaks themselves, backing out in into someone becuase they didn't look or the opposite of somone not looking as somone is backing out in parkinglots, even fucking doors taken off and serious injuries becuase they don't check their mirror for oncoming traffic before getting out when parking on the street. I've seen more just plain stupid and irresponsible shit like that in the past year than I think I have the rest of my life combined and from what I've seen the drivers all seem to have been black or brown. If that's what it's like for zoomers in bigger cities I can somewhat understand. They don't have safe places to learn anymore becuase the people on the road are fucking menaces. Not realted to driving but I've also noticed a huge increase in aquatic emergency rescue service activity compared to of previous summers.

>>509636714
>unreliable wind
>in the UK.
Yes.
https://intermittent.energy
>1GW of Wind is 1 billion and 1GW of nuclear is 7 billion
>What is intermittency?
>What is grid frequency?
Actual retard.

>>509631928
Now...

>>509636714
>>509636348

if you´re really unlucky it only costs you 41 billion for 3GW like hinkley point.
Based fucking Bongs, paying 100 gorillion for a cookie and a glass of milk.

>>509636040
>PURE SOUND
>fart noises
lol

>>509637045
See: >>509636057

>>509634211
Yeah I've had this happen with a goyota and it was because the steering wheel gets turned when the car is off. Dumb fuckin feature, I'd have to fuck with the steering wheel turning it hard until it let me turn the key again.

>>509634808
Jesus Christ how old are you? 19? Travelfags need to die and only Erasmus students and old boomers live this 'way of life' which is in no sense noble or better then driving around in your cuckwagon

>>509637036
haha holy fuck look, an image containing every vehicle one of my extended family has bought in the past 10 years

>>509636900
>the computer bureaucracy is infallible to 6 significant figures.
You made up numbers to lie on the internet, jew. Why are you trying to hide your boomer cash for clunkers crimes? You want to rug and gaslight the youngens some more?

>>509636787
Do you really think the world today is the same as it was before mass transportation was invented? Do you really think that birth rates were always below replacement levels, that countries were always a collection of urban sprawls and that the world was always so full of strangers? Just about the only group of people with above replacement level fertility rates in the Western world are the Amish.

OUR cars are ugly? Ex fucking scuse me? The F-250 is the best-looking vehicle of all time, and if you disagree, you're a kike/faggot/nigger who voted against Trump in the election. We like cars, the bigger the better. If it can do 90 in a 30 and hit kids in the blind spot, that's all you fucking need. American pickup trucks are perfect for small trips to the grocery store or to pick up your little shit from day care. Oh, what's that? Aesthetics? No thanks. The White race doesn't need that.

>>509632184
Rabbi's

>>509636995
>intermittent
>posts something showing onshore wind is predictable and so is solar.
>no graph for wind offshore where it blows 24/7.

Nice website, Nigel.

>>509631841 (OP)
Cars have all had the same boring style since like 2010. It never changes. We used to have distinct styles that changed every decade like fads

>>509637036
As opposed to the slightly different melted bars of soap with the exact same headlights and the same-ish hubcaps?

>>509637129
link from 2019
here´s 2024:

https://www.constructionnews.co.uk/civils/hinkley-point-faces-10bn-cost-hike-and-four-year-delay-24-01-2024/

>>509637292
>Cars are why birth rates are so low
Actual retard. Kill yourself.

>>509637437
Those are all beautiful cunt

>>509637398
No it isn't. Even with the lowest interval being 5 minutes, it's still constantly going up and down. Even offshore wind in the UK only has a capacity factor of 35%-45%.

>>509637480
Doesn't change much at all since the upfront cost is just spread over a lot of electricity. Kill yourself.

>>509637437
>has to go back all the way to the 40's to strawman the argument that modern cars don't look like identical shit

>>509631841 (OP)
>cars stopped looking cool
An even hotter take: This was done on purpose to deter people from buying cars.

>>509637804
Nah, it's just done out of spite.

>>509637488
>Cars are why birth rates are so low
Yeah pretty much, mass transportation in general allowed for the massive urbanization that happened in the 20th century that drove birth rates down. Everybody know this.

>>509631928
This was mine. And it cost around 3 months. Took some work to get it really nice but it was still miles cheaper than the 20k starters these days. God forbid you want something new at 45k+.

>>509637774
>07/06/55
>has to go back all the way to the 10's to strawman the argument that modern cars don't look like identical shit

>>509637371
Why do you think it looks best? It's just large. Design wise is just a typical box and nothing special. Do you equal size with the great design? From European point of view, we see such cars to be very useless and aimed towards extremely fat people, or even worse, very small people who have problem getting out of the car, just like child on a big chair with legs not touching the ground yet.

>>509637856
No it isn't. Even in rural areas, birth rates fell.

>>509637845

these are no random acts done simply out of spite,everything has a purpose

>>509637743
>doesn´t change much at all

anuda 10 billion plz.
lmao.

>>509637965
He's being sarcastic you retard

>>509637192
What the fuck else should I do with my money besides go places and see what they're like? Unlike you, my landlord doesn't charge me rent when I'm away from home.

>>509633486
Muttland being an individualistic country is a fucking joke and the only reason mutts can't into trains is gigajewing surrounding land rights

>>509631841 (OP)
boomers ruined cars. They're the ones 3with all the money and the market caters to their awful taste.

This is best looking car.

Anything else is just trying to be the best looking copy of it.

>>509638126
The rail lines already exist, but they've been completely neglected. It's unbelievable how many disused railroads there are in the USA.

>>509638085
>Memeflag doesn't understand economies of scale
>Memeflag doesn't understand the graph showing massive profit margins
>Memeflag doesn't understand the importance of experience or supply chains
>Memeflag doesn't understand electricity in general
lmao

>>509638188

>>509636454
I think the Twitter user in OP likes both of them and is saying that new cars are garbage compared to both.

>>509638230
faggot doesn´t understand he´s paying for this shit with his taxes and could´ve done more renewables or even fucking coal and it would still be cheaper for the ammount of power.

does your mind comprehend how much fucking coal you can buy for 10 billion?.

>>509637890
How old are ya?

>>509638216
>>509638126
Rail lines stop being used when wild animals come on board and fuck everything up, making everyone feel unsafe. Even gopniks aren't so bad that trains shut down lmao

>>509638119
How'd you end up the luckiest cunt in the world?

>>509638422
Agree, but it's in the same category

>>509638461
No, it's actually paid for by the private sector, which is actually much more expensive, especially since national governments with their own currency just make the money printer go brrr.
The National Grid is planning to spend £35 billion on grid upgrades for solar and wind between 2026 and 2031.

>>509638119
>landlord doesn't charge me rent when I'm away from home.
Whaaaaaat?

>>509638049
>Even in rural areas, birth rates fell.
Yeah, because of urbanization. Urbanization tore rural communities apart, again made possible by mass transportation. The only real through line across countries with low fertility rates is a high percentage of people living in urban areas. What else do you think could be the reason for low birth rates in countries like Iran, the USA, Russia, China, France, Israel, Turkey. They're all near or below replacement level fertility rates and have little in common aside from being very urbanized.

Reason why I had no problem with Iran getting bombed. They started the decline in car culture. ‘70s gas crisis shifted peoples attitude from cool gas guzzling cars to “economic” cars with an emphasizes on MPG over style.

>>509631841 (OP)
taco bell and mcdonalds delivers now so no need for cars these days. grocery delivery also much more mainstream.

>>509638662
Some people also do it here out of courtesy, many people do it for students and some charge like half of the rent

>>509638686
No, it wasn't. You're a retard.
>What else do you think could be the reason for low birth rates
>What is the demographic transition model?
>What are house prices?
>What are energy prices?
>What are food prices?
Retard.

>>509638216
Those disused lines mostly go nowhere useful for passenger transport. The rest of American rail is extremely heavily used, just not for carrying people - we have one of the largest, most utilized freight rail networks in the world and are far ahead of most of Europe in that regard.

>>509631841 (OP)
your image refutes your postulation. zooms like cars, just not kikeslop

If you support the automotive jew industry, you're not white.
Simple as.

>>509638649
>No, it's actually paid for by the private sector
>private sector

Doesn´t actually exist in the infrastructure sector of the economy.
Subsidize the profits, socialise the losses.
You will suck French cock and you will like it, mark my words.

>>509638970
I wanted an excuse to post the image, but you need to pose a question in the subject to have engaging discussion.

>>509633901
Probably more importantly than that, we were in a much better position for mass adoption and building infrastructure around them because we didn't have to deal with the aftermath of two world wars and still had huge areas of undeveloped land to build new construction on.

>>509638826
>What are house prices?
>What are energy prices?
>What are food prices?
There's no through line to be found here across all countries with low birth rates. Home ownership goes anywhere from 40% too 90%, energy prices vary just as much if not more and food prices definitely have nothing to do with it. It's just urbanization.

>>509638988
Yes it does. It's just more expensive than having the government pay for it.

I just want to go back

>>509639421
She's a beauty

>>509638686
>>509639178
>Iran
Sanctions, so everything is expensive.
>USA
Expensive housing, energy, food, etc.
>Russia
Terrible economy in general.
>China
One child policy and two child policy.
>France
Expensive housing and food.
>Israel
Messed up society in general.
>Turkey
Terrible economy in general.

>>509631841 (OP)
Yeah I think this is legit. When I was a kid, I loved cars. Now they are cringe things that cost way too much money, all they do is shuttle you to and from your wagie job really slowly and safely and even then you are likely to pick up a fuckload of fines.

I never want to use a car ever again. The elites have successfully defiled them and made them lame and gay. Yet another cool part of culture that was lost.

>>509631841 (OP)
It's expensive. And I'm not just talking about the buy price of the car.

>>509631841 (OP)
https://youtu.be/3wmwkLHTKZY?si=fCwa4uoFk8rTO4Ne&t=1306

everything has ups and downs and goes in cycles. were currently in the gay part of the cycle.

>>509639629
You're just proving my point. You failed to find a through line other than urbanization and you're really fucking stupid if you think that a terrible economy correlates with low birth rates. Absolute fucking clown.

They are expensive and in my particular case unnecessary. My city has very high quality public transport. I am also a sperg that simply hates the actual driving process, too many variables to take into consideration at all times, the cost of failing to juggle all of this variables is too high - financial damage / injury / death. Everyone also seems quite uncomfortable when you tell them you do not / will not drive which is nice.

>>509633182
they can't afford the car, cant afford the cruise, and can't afford the whore unless they are a nepo baby or won the influencer lottery.

>>509639178
Urbanisation (if you mean what I think you mean by it) was definitely the driving force of the reduction in birthrates over the 20th Century.
The economic model totally shifted from one where you were dependent on your children for a comfortable life in retirement to one where you instead recieved a pension or social security or lived off your 401k.
And so not only would more children compromise your lifestyle (and the lifestyle you could offer them), but the equity you accumulate over your life will be split amongst more people at your death. Even though people say that boomers don't give a fuck about leaving anything for their kids I still think there is an implicit understanding of this economic reality that influences the decision to have or not to have more children.
But the more recent increases in cost of living and particularly housing prices is the driving force of the change in birthrate we have seen over the 21st Century (particularly when isolating the birthrate of specific demographics i.e. discounting the buoyant effect of the migrant birthrate which is driven by cultural and socioeconomic factors).
People in Australia who want to have 3 kids aren't doing it because they can not afford a four bedroom home. A dual income couple on median full time income can only qualify for less than a million in loans. In our major cities where half of the population lives this can only afford you, at most, a three bedroom apartment or duplex.
Even if most of these couples would not choose to have more than 2 kids anyway due to the effects of urbanisation on the mindset around reproduction, it serves as a barrier for the minority of families who would still choose to have three or more kids.
I think this does have a meaninful impact on the birthrate, and if the trend continues we will soon be in a position where the average couple can not afford to have more than one kid due to their inability to afford more than a two bedroom home.

>>509638988
>You will suck French cock and you will like it,

It will provide around 7% of the UK’s electricity demand... if anything the creation of that powerplant (under those conditions) was a 50% diplomatic move - 50% bribery move.It makes no sense not to pay for the construction of the nuclear power plant with government money, unless someone was secretly bribed to give China and France some influence over the UK and take the profits.

>>509636975
it's because the various shades of brown infiltrated both our versions of the DMV and other licensing groups and bribe each other to get passed

>>509637915
>blah blah blah
>literally posts handmade works of art built by professional generational coachbuilders and artesians
The deeper you dig that hole the more you prove us right.

This whole thread is retarded. This is America. We don’t need to debate what’s best. We can have EVERYTHING. We can have cars AND high speed rail. We can have solar, wind, hydro, AND nuclear. If we still had balls, we could do it. China is building more of everything: Cars, rail, solar, wind, hydro and nuclear. I don’t think any of you understand the gravity of the situation.

>>509638188
>looks like a beetle on a dose of ozempic
Oh wait, it is a beetle kek

>>509639991
Raising a family costs money. You also conveniently ignored the demographic transition model. Even people in rural areas are having fewer children.

>>509631841 (OP)
look around. it's everything. we china-fied at lightning speed.

>>509637045
Windmills don't print platinum and plutonium, tard. They just obliterate weather patterns, birbs, marine animals, and humans with infrasonics. And run through loads of petro lube.
>>509636332
Niggers are literally all cousins and are indeed a hive mind unless autistic.
>>509638216
Those rails are gone now, they were there in the 70's. The rights of way were kept.
>>509638126
Faultlines and the cost of not having line level crossings.
>>509634987
Inflated because illegals bought the entire inventory of shotboxes with theor free 5k of fed bucks a month, and there mist be an enormous grey/black export bisoness for off lease and used cars to protect the automakers.

>>509631841 (OP)
cars are for government paypigs
this is a 3000watt E-bike
60V up to 75AH capacity
>45mph
>full suspension
>lights and signals
>pedals make it still legally a bicycle
>no insurance
>no license tabs
>no license plate
>no license endorsement
>no license
you may not like it but this is what peak libertarianism looks like in 2025

>>509640970
>no pic

>>509640970
>peak libertardianism
1.The free market isn't going to carry your groceries home, or transport your kids safely if you have any.
2. you're gay.
3. with those specs it would legally count as a motorcycle here, and would need to be registered, insured, licensed, etc.

>>509641227
having said that, not only do I ride an ebike because it's cheaper than gas and insurance and whatever else, I charge it at work because not my problem lmao

>>509640970
>hit a tiny pothole
>die instantly or get 1m medical bill + tip

>>509631841 (OP)
What went wrong?

>>509640970
>Homosexual e-bike
Buy a real bike.

>>509640970
>Who needs a sewer system when you can just throw your urine and excrement out of a window?

>>509640804
>Raising a family costs money.
The people who can afford to raise a family are having fewer children than the people who can't. That clearly has nothing to do with it. You're just looking at symptoms of the disease. You could fix all the problems pointed out by you and it would hardly move the needle while people in underdeveloped countries keep shitting out babies by the billions.

Anyway, I have things to do so I gotta go.

>>509631841 (OP)
They are really, really boring

>>509641684
By 'they' I mean cars sorry

>>509641628
Keep ignoring the demographic transition model.

>>509640970
>reliant on government regulated (and sometimes provided) electricity
>can only go like 25mi away tops, 15 if you want to use it like a motorcycle
>can't carry shit without further crippling performance and range
>rapidly getting banned or forced to register and have an endorsement in many places
>will get you killed because it's too slow for a large percentage of roads unless you're a terminal citycuck

>>509641684
>>509641731
Cars are tools, like how trains, ships, planes, and so on are all tools.

>>509631841 (OP)
Because we have no money retard

>>509633182
And her bare feet on the dash, heading to the beach, you knowing she will be the hottest chick there and she is yours, so you pretend not to care when she moves your mirror to do her lipstick.
Happy times.

>>509631841 (OP)
I think zoomers realize just how shit the way cities are built, In Mexico you can walk down the street to the local bodega or OXXO and get your groceries and walk back home. used to vist my Grandmama in the border town there when I was a kid a long time ago Mexico actually wasnt as bad back then now its fucking godawful.

>>509641628
>The people who can afford to raise a family are having fewer children
Who can afford to raise children today? I did calculations and for me to be given the same opportunity my mother/father had I would've had to be given £1,000,000+ before the age of 21. Both my parents went to grammar school (private school with free entry based on merit this no longer exists). Both parents had full scholarships at university. Gifted a deposit covering 1/4 the house cost. My dad had only been at his company for 18 months and the company offered him to move locations. Part of the relocation agreement was the company would pay for 1/2 the new house, my parents keep all ownership. My parents brought their house with this agreement for £80k when I was born (no mortgage). Twenty five years later the same house is now over £900k.

>>509641407
honestly why?
mine cost a 10th of that thing and you can't go any faster than I can in the city

>>509641227
my bike has a big cargo basket thing on the back groceries are fine
I won a 200$ pack of fireworks in an employee contest at work took the big box apart and carried it all home two days ago

>>509641552
imagine if you didn't have windows

>>509641308
yea but that's not an ebike thing it's an all bike thing
>>509641944
>solar
>a 75AH battery will take you 80+ miles
pulls 230pounds of me and a 50pound bag of dog food up the hills here at 30
>"youths" every god dam time
>anything up to 45 I'm a suburbcuck
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y57w4999F_0

>>509642217
>honestly why?
An electric bike dries a woman's pussy up faster than the Sahara desert.

>>509642217
I've got a flat rack over the back of mine, even carried a TV home on the back of it

>>509633581
My mum had one of pic related. On holiday, a thousand km from home, driving down the freeway at 110 km/h, I wound down the back window and climbed out.
As my head came over the roofline my mother's purse with four weeks pay, license and bank book blew off the roof, hit me in the face and fell into my lap. Saving the purse saved me from a well deserved walloping for being an idiot.

>>509642296
Only if you're a sub 9, if you're a chad or otherwise appear valuable to them they don't care

>>509642296
actually I've found when it gets to this point they start thinking of it like a dirt bike because mine looks like one
happy to report it has not stopped me from getting laid

>>509642217
>imagine if you didn't have windows
>Saar we have designated shitting streets saar

>>509638502
35.

Grew up rural though.

>>509642514
now you have drive troughs

>>509642573
>drive-throughs
drunk typing

>>509634198
240Z was a great car design.

>>509642217
Honestly better range than I expected, but you'd need a lot of solar for that and you're still dealing with speed issues and long charge times if you want to go further.

My bike definitely cost more, about twice as much plus registration and insurance (which are dirt cheap compared to a car though, insurance is $199 a year for full coverage) but it can go on the freeway, go places you could never take an electric bike with an 80mi range, having registration and insurance means I'm not totally fucked if it gets stolen, and it makes fun vroom vroom noises that chicks apparently dig. All worth it to me.

>>509642741
Popular with modders when I was a kid. We called them hot rodders and then street machine builders back then.

>>509641374
Jews.

>>509637371
Jumbo trucks suck and need to be demolished for scrap. Jumbo truck owners need the rope.

>>509631928
The world was just in a better overall state back in the day, it seems like. The quality of everything has completely deteriorated

>>509639421
I used to go off roading in one of these.
Bent the steering when we hit a stump. Realigned it with a crowbar and sledge hammer, then drove it 500km to home without any problems.

>>509638700

>>509643106
Forgot pic.

>>509637437
each and every one of those cars is unique because they were all hand-made

>>509642782
there are electric bikes that can go highway speeds if you want to pay the registration
it's true the charge times are a problem
we need flash charging
if these things could use the tesla stations that's about the last step before it's truly arrived as a viable permanent mode of transport

>>509631841 (OP)
i just think that cars are super gay and completely lame

>>509640504
Your AI expects the renewal cost of renewables to be the same in 30 years, and still the same in 60. This is not the case.

>>509637371
This looks like what an 11yo brat thinks is cool

trump removed the CAFE standards yesterday
automakers had been following them since 1978

last good looking bmw

>>509643526
Nice x-axis.

>>509633346
You're trying to appeal to people who can literally feel the cholesterol chunks squeezing through their veins as they order their next triple cheeseburger about their health.

>>509643263
Yeah, the range is absolute dogshit on them though, even the best are only good for like 120mi on the highway. It's always gonna be hard to get good highway range out of an electric bike because the aerodynamics suck and there's not much you can do about it while keeping the bike something people actually want to ride. I think the best bet would be standardized hot swappable batteries but that would require a lot of infrastructure and it's always gonna be limited compared to a gas bike where you can carry extra gas for a very minimal weight penalty (my bike gets an equivalent range to the best e-motos with less than 2 gallons of gas, about 10-12lbs) and I can also fill up at middle of nowhere campsites that have ancient gas pumps for people to fill their boat tanks or whatever and don't even have the power lines to run Tesla-level chargers.

>>509634987
>Cash for clunkers only ran from July 2009 to August 2009 and only scrapped 677,081 cars.
677k SURVIVORS
these were cars that had all their points in luck, their engines were broken in perfectly

>>509631841 (OP)
Car insurance and payments on a fairly new car is about 700-800 a month. That was a rent payment in the 2000’s

That’s about 2/3rds the paycheck of someone working 40 hours a week making the federally mandated minimum wage which has remained unchanged fed since 2009.

It’s an absolute shit show out there for zoomers.

>>509644021
>payments
Used cars also exist. Most of the cost of owning a car is from insurance, taxes, and fuel (which is heavily-taxed).

>>509642143
Western countries, particularly the US, Canada and Australia, have found it impossible to strike a balance between there being no cars vs structuring our entire lives and designing our entire communities around everyone always driving. Don't forget that we demolished and reconstructed entire existing areas to make room for this soulless crap. None of us truly wanted this.

>>509631841 (OP)
Alright.
Best case scenario.
Zoomie gets to work over the school year and also the summer.
What do they get?
Badass brand new muscle car?
University tuition and board for a year?
Perhaps a starter house before they get started on the rest?

>>509642741

>>509631841 (OP)
You will own nothing goyim.

>>509643824
>>509643526
>>509640504


We´re at 31 cents per watt of solar.
https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/solar-pv-prices
Since its a semiconductor you can push it to 10 cents a watt in 10-15 years.

Your initial one time cost is always there (land).

For wind its still land + the mounting points that are reinforced concrete, shit lasts for centuries.
You´re only replacing the turbine blades, electric motor, gearing, brakes, possibly the tower.
No one is throwing away the metal parts of a turbine, things have copper spools weighing 200kg at least.

For hydro there´s general maintenance, you´re not tearing down a dam and making a new one every 30 years.

Looking for a new car considering kia ceed or Hyundai i20

>>509644776
>Hyundai i20

Drove this, its a Golf 5, but Korean.

>>509632393
Meanwhile government requires trucks to be so tall that it is hard to see a5 foot tall pedestrian.

>>509633687
so just like nowadays? i would have to wait 5 years if i want to order to have a new house build. Cars also have sometimes 1-2 years delivery time

>>509644776
they're all eco shitboxes, what does it matter?

>>509638422

certainly has character

>>509631928
It would take you an entire summer to get that, be real. Still you are right.

>>509644773
>Muh LCOE
The cost of overcapacity, storage, and grid upgrades aren't getting any cheaper. The more solar and wind you deploy, the more resources you use and the more you start moving into suboptimal locations.
Hydroelectricity is good, but solar and wind are for remote homes and science equipment, not for the grid.

>>509637371
What terrain was this designed for exactly?

>>509644904
Are they reliable? Never drove VW

>>509632095
This has AWD though and way more features than older cars.

mass transportation is cheaper, safer and better for the environment plus it gives you time to play on your phone while traveling. why wouldn't zoomies be anti-car?

>>509636789
A friend lost his virginity in the back seat of an original mini in New Forest in the middle of winter with snow on the ground. He was 6'4". I've no idea how he manage to get in there. My Max Headroom flattop had polished a shiny spot in the roof lining and I'm only 6' nothing.

>>509637965

Basically every major large appliance you own was brought to your home with a truck. When you move, when you purchase anything small enough to fit through your front door that you can lift yourself, when you need to build virtually any kind of structure or do serious renovations, you are depending on a truck or something else like it with decent carrying capacity. If you don't own that vehicle you are just depending on someone else who does to get you want you need. The fact that you can't ever accomplish any of these things by yourself and still don't understand the value of such vehicles just demonstrates how little you understand about how the world works.

>>509632095
That generation Trax/Encore is a relatively good looking -for a crossover - super reliable - other than a recall or two iirc- car.

>>509644776
What about a used Ford or Vauxhall? You can usually get a decent one of those for quite cheap.

>>509645613
Public transport is also vital, but it doesn't have the flexibility that driving provides.

>>509631841 (OP)
I can understand why. Modern cars are made for practical purposes. They look all the same, lots of space, but compact, and low cost. If that's the case and you have good public transports, why get a car? It's just one more expense.

>>509645663
Exactly. Large vehicles like trucks, trains, ships, planes, etc. are what move things around.

>>509645497
> but solar and wind are for remote homes and science equipment, not for the grid.
The Chinese spamming panels and turbines everywhere in their country disagrees with this.
Of course they spam nuclear too, but less.

>Hydroelectricity is good
No one debates this. best resource ever.

>>509645537
>Are they reliable?
No idea, they´re nice to drive.
Company I worked for had one for local deliveries of the product we made, sometimes had to drive it.

>>509631841 (OP)
car traffics suck

>>509631841 (OP)
Zoomers can't drive manual transmissions. Opinion immediately discarded.

A car is a tool, I want it to take me from A to B as efficiently as possible. Who cares what it looks like?
Are you lot just deciding not to do DIY because the hammer you have has the wrong colour grip?

>>509636171
The nuclear because it doesn't need replacing every 5 years and doesn't explode in a moderate wind

>>509644669
I had one of these.

>>509645808
>The Chinese spamming panels and turbines everywhere in their country disagrees with this.
The Chinese own the supply chains, so it's cheap for them. They are spamming everything, including fossil fuels, solar, wind, nuclear power, hydroelectricity, etc. because they have over a billion people and a ton of industry.

>>509645508
99% suburban streets repaved every few years, 1% ankle deep mud to pretend like they're "country"

>>509645808
>No one debates this. best resource ever.
Based.

>>509644773
>things have copper spools weighing 200kg at least.

Just Romanian thoughts.

>>509645659
Just kick one of the windows out, EZ

>>509646092

If you applied this philosophy to the rest of your life you'd wear rags, subsist on onions, and live in the functional equivalent of a shoebox.

>>509646200
It is perfectly relevant to this discussion. A lot of the components of a wind turbine can be recycled and it needs a lot of resources.

>>509646154
But I wanted this.

>>509646291
I own 8 plain white T shirts and 2 pairs of jeans and that's it.
I eat meat, veg and dairy and that's it.
I have house large enough that the dogs can run around in it and that's it.
So pretty much, yeah

>>509631841 (OP)
I'm not a zoomer, but a car would be nothing but a burden to me. Imagine having a car when you can simply walk places, take trains, and ride your bike lmao.

>>509631841 (OP)
I'm not a zoomer but I'm personally anti-car because the IQ of the average person has been steadily decreasing while simultaneously flooding the country with millions of literal retards from the third world, and I'm not happy about the fact that they are allowed to drive, nor do I appreciate sharing the road with them - thus I drive as little as possible, and avoid busy hours and roads when I do

>>509631928
My starter car was a 11 year old used that cost me 6 months of my first job while living for free at my parents house. That was in 2012 for a car with 120k miles. Still have it and still cant afford a new car. Thanks boomers for selling out the country.

>>509631841 (OP)
cars look gay now
plus zoomers can't afford them

>>509631841 (OP)
I drive a 2nd hand 2008 Mazda 2 for almost 10 years.
I can't afford a new car and barely afford an old car. I only use the car to drive to work family and do errands.
I hate being stuck in traffic, If something is in a walking distance up to 1 hour away from home I always walk instead of driving.

If something is more easily accessible with public transportation I always take it instead of using my car.

Wish I didn't need my car

>>509631928
you have a deal

>>509646353

You sound like a pretty boring person. I'm not going to waste my time explaining the merits of craftsmanship and artistry to someone can't see the inherent value in these elements of society.

>>509646304
I'm aware of that. He's meme flagging from Israel while name fagging as a Romanian. Probably the Romanian tranny loving 'not a Jew', Jew.

Hydro is an excellent source of power. See the Three Gorges Dam. Australia's electrification and industrialization was centered on the Snowy Mountains Hydro scheme. Further dams were blocked after we signed on to the Lima Protocols in 1973, when the deindustrialization of the West and the rise of China was signed off.

>>509646622
OK sister. You go gurl!

>>509632603
They were a blast but sketchy af once you start adding hp. I own 3 60s era GM cars/ trucks now cuz they're so much easier to fix and get parts for here but my first love was an 88 Supra turbo that damn near killed me and 2 of my friends. I bought another one as soon as the insurance check cleared

>>509646664
Exactly.

>>509632966
Those second gen split bumper camaro/firebirds were beautiful. I have a 68 convertible 4 speed Firebird with a 455 and you couldn't smack the smile off my face when I drive it

>>509646664
>He's meme flagging from Israel while name fagging as a Romanian.
I´m in the EU and Romanian, Canguru pulii mele.

>>509646200
>Just Romanian thoughts.
Thinking that a dude debating power distribution and generation has any need to steal copper is funny, spiderman.
but desu I did use to buy computer monitors and old TVs in second hand shops in western europe to harvest for copper years ago.

pic rel could be found for 1 euro.
used to make 300 euros a month just by owning a screwdriver and legs, besides my normal wage.

>>509647038
Accept my apologies then. The 'MFW no big dick tranny GF (not a Jew)' namefag pretended to be Romanian until the October 7th false flags. Then he was frothing for TPD and ranting at anyone that called him out. I assumed you were him.
In the '90s I used to strip old Wang mainframes.
8 ounces of gold from one 44 gallon drum of circuit boards. The hard drive chassis had five kilos of aluminium.

>>509643526
>>509644773

It's still not viable..