with a bacherlors / masters degree but also less than 2 years of actual experience

https://www.thestar.com.my/tech/tech-news/2025/07/01/how-do-you-teach-computer-science-in-the-ai-era

"A computer science degree used to be a golden ticket to the promised land of jobs," a college senior tells the New York Times. But "That's no longer the case."

The article notes that in the last three years there's been a 65% drop from companies seeking workers with two years of experience or less with tech companies "relying more on AI for some aspects of coding, eliminating some entry-level work."

So what do college professors teach when AI "is coming fastest and most forcefully to computer science"?

>Some educators now believe the discipline could broaden to become more like a liberal arts degree, with a greater emphasis on critical thinking and communication skills.

The National Science Foundation is funding a program, Level Up AI, to bring together university and community college educators and researchers to move toward a shared vision of the essentials of AI education. The 18-month project, run by the Computing Research Association, a research and education nonprofit, in partnership with New Mexico State University, is organising conferences and roundtables and producing white papers to share resources and best practices.

The future of computer science education, Maher said, is likely to focus less on coding and more on computational thinking and AI literacy. Computational thinking involves breaking down problems into smaller tasks, developing step-by-step solutions and using data to reach evidence-based conclusions.

Stanford CS professor Lieben Reagan argues that "The growth in software engineering jobs may decline, but the total number of people involved in programming will increase."

>>509632688 (OP)
it isnt even ai.
H1B visas are as high as they have always been.
People are being hired just not the ones who will have any human rights.

>>509632926
This. All these faggy websites are skirting around the main culprit being h1b pajeet’s.

>>509632688 (OP)
Curries and chinks will do the job for $20k

RIP to your career faggot. serious

>>509632688 (OP)

LMAO

Thanks for the jobs Timmy.

>>509632688 (OP)
>The 18-month project
may as well be 100 years in the context of ai.
>organising conferences and roundtables and producing white papers

>tfw my job is helping teach chatbots to code
LMAOing at webdevs and CS students, you guys created a shit industry that i am now very happy to help dismantle.

H**g tech CEOs.

>>509632688 (OP)
Most depressing image. Ack.

>>509632688 (OP)
become a carpenter or something
do you really want to sit at a desk for the rest of your life surrounded by pajeets

>>509632688 (OP)
It was never a good job market. Six years ago it was flooded with "consultants" (read: H1-B). Now it's infinitely worse.

>>509632688 (OP)
HEY RETARD
Who the fuck actually gives a shit about your past experience? Most of the time the new gig will want you to forget it all cause they do it differently anyway.

Make shit up.
I put down that I have a CS degree even though I quit halfway. If they ask (which they hardly ever do) I just say that I started my own dev studio and was learning more that way.

Don't go straight for jobs with huge companies, get a job with a small software shop and go from there.

Fake it til you make it is what most devs in the industry actually agree with. Go spend a day or two reading shills posting on r programmerhumor and learn to talk the talk ("oh yeah I hate react lol. Props suck amirite? It was better when it was just PHP ahhh those were the days. I just use redux now")

If you really wanna go for gold, make a fake shitty website, make a fake shitty company with 1 google review by anonymous, get a burner phone and put that as the number for the company you worked for, when they call to check references, answer and put on a voice and shill yourself.

>>509633918
Too much work

>computer science

you're fucked lol

they'd rather hire H1B jeets

if not they'll just leverage an existing employee + AI shenanigans

>>509632688 (OP)
SO WHAT THE FUCK IS THE NEW SIX FIGURE RESPECTABLE NON SLAVE WAGE JOB THEN, WHAT FIELD DO YOU EVEN GO IN IF STEM IS GETTING RAPED?

>>509634097
you get a medical training but instead of becoming a doctor you manage a hospital itself

>>509632688 (OP)
Start your own business and do some original work.

>>509632688 (OP)
My sister-in-law left her husband for a project manager and then he got fired a year later and still doesn’t have a job kek

>>509632688 (OP)
Time to get a job, anon. Quit playing video games and get out of your mother’s basement. Get good grades, and work hard. Smile and a firm handshake!

>>509632926
it's about the dollars
and jeets on H1B will work for way less than native born americans
screen cap this
in 5 years, AI will be dead and we'll be moving on to some new technology to replace it

>>509633592
>become a carpenter
so you can get paid in pesos and have to learn spanish?

>>509634416

>>509634594

>>509634196
>you get a medical training but instead of becoming a doctor you manage a hospital itself
Bingo

>>509634641
https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/Hira%20Testimony.pdf

>>509634674
https://www.numbersusa.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/Factsheet_-H-1B.pdf

https://www.numbersusa.com/blog/h-1b-one-of-the-best-con-jobs-chugs-along-as-americans-lose-jobs/

>>509634674
forgot pic

>>509632688 (OP)
>a computer science job in USA
Just darken your skin, sun, melanin injections etc

>>509634196
I have family members who did this back at the dawn of HMOs. It's truly evil manifest. Probably why it pays so well.

>>509632688 (OP)
ice or onlyfans, that's it.

>>509634594
>>509634641
>>509634674
>>509634720
>>509634783
As I said above, it's all about $$$
And the law is written to hold those H1B workers as slaves, and if they speak up, they get deported and replaced by another jeet.
It's criminal, and not one single politician will do anything about it.

>>509634783
It occurs to me that shit like this is a constant in human history, from Roman slaves, to niggers slaves, to coolies, to coal workers, to H1jeets. Slavery is profitable and humans will always find a way to manifest it in some form.

>>509632688 (OP)
>impossible to get a computer science job in USA
Muh learn to code bro

>>509632688 (OP)
All lies to push AI gibs.
If it were so good they wouldn't have to do this.

If we have to make the money printer go vrrrrmmmmm why not throw the money into actual useful stuff?

>>509635057
Visa slave labor is like an economic Sterling engine that produces profit from the heat/wealth difference between two regions.

>>509632926
Same with engineering
You will only ever find senior Eng job ads because they want a wrangler for the jeetery or other 3rd world juniors being paid way less than a local graduate. Your job will always be overseeing their shitty work and signing off on it so there's someone to blame when the boeing falls out of the sky or the bridge collapses in the winter.

That said it's easy to get a job in CS still just you need a specific skill like you do optimizations of linear alg libraries for machine learning or you can build a compiler or properly write a language spec. Any skill besides being a generic dev who only did minor projects in school.
My advice is if you are at any school get into some research team on campus, most professors have openings and need juniors then you have a skill like you translated papers to algorithms for massive amounts of data and did analysis on it or built dashboards and visuals for the PhDs on the team. That is gold in the financial world and some startup doing quant shit will hire you.
For engineering you can work overseas then come back as 'senior' so you become the h1b to Denmark or UK

>>509632688 (OP)
We're hiring but I have genuinely asked our talent scouts to stop accepting applicants with CS degrees. I've interviewed about 30 of the most entitled retards in the past few months, about a dozen made second round mostly because our HR women said they "fit the culture" but none of them have even been passable in our technical interview (the most basic SQL, linux, and general programming assessment).

A CS degree stopped being worth something when people learned you can make money in computers. We need to start gatekeeping being a nerd again, it shouldn't be socially acceptable. If you're not a barely functioning autistic, a femboy, or both I can guarantee you do not have what it takes to work in my field

>>509635723
>If you're not a barely functioning autistic, a femboy, or both I can guarantee you do not have what it takes to work in my field
Onlyfans content creator?

>>509632688 (OP)
Dude, you live in Finland. What's the fuck the American labour market has to do with you at all? Go back to Ukraine.

>>509632926
Anyone who has a functioning brain and can make money would hire a pajeet who can do better for less. Mutts are lazy, stupid, selfish, entitled and do fuck all while demanding to be overpaid just for being a local mutt. I'm glad that the reality of the actual world outside your exceptionalist bubble starts hitting you hard.

>>509635884
>only fans creator
>woman
>two x chromosomes in tech
Not possible, our company is efficient. We don't hire women

>>509635723
This sounds more like your talent scouts are shit and turning down the hypercapable spergs because "they don't fit your culture".

>>509636381
>mutts are lazy and entitled
True
>hiring pajeets
Terrible fucking idea. Eastern Europeans and chinks are where the real talent is. My rule is that your language has to have retarded looking letters and your skin has to be light enough that you need sunscreen. That makes a good techie

>>509634373
>my sister is a stupid whore and suffers
>kek
bruh

The silicon valley tech boom is over. Consumer electronics is dead. AI was mostly a meme. Way too many people getting computer science degrees means that wages are fast food tier now. The future is material engineering, biological engineering and weapons development. No one needs another shitty saas app.

>>509635723
>If you're not a barely functioning autistic, a femboy, or both I can guarantee you do not have what it takes to work in my field

Agreed.
A few months ago HR lined up this interview for us. Ditzy asian girl fresh-grad. She knew absolutely nothing about programming. I'm used to interviewing candidates that i think aren't quite up to par for us... but she was something different entirely. Her "presentation" was just going over the 100 or so lines of (terrible) python she wrote for a school course. That was mind-bogglingly bad. When asked why she chose threads instead of multiprocessing, she said that the only difference between them was one could "use more cores" than the other. Complete waste of time.

Meanwhile HR bitches and moans when my boss tells them to stop being little cunts and re-schedule this guy's interview after he couldn't make the first one because his mom got in a car accident. We hired this guy, because he actually knew his shit, and he's been pumping out actually good C code since then.

>>509635080
>It occurs to me that shit like this is a constant in human history, from Roman slaves, to niggers slaves, to coolies, to coal workers, to H1jeets. Slavery is profitable and humans will always find a way to manifest it in some form.
Absolutely. Every economy runs on the backs of an exploited class, whether they're chattel slaves or serfs of coolies or wage slaves.

>>509636420
>>509637097
Honestly you're probably right. HR seems to just fast-track people who can talk during an interview well. We need the people who suddenly get a spark in their eye and autistically ramble for 82 minutes about MIPS cache micro-optimization and overdraw minimization by pre-sorting geometry using an acceleration structure if you ask them about their "super mario 64 optimization project" that they've been working on in their spare time.

>>509637300
Spergs are some of the best workers in quite a few fields, not just in tech related ones.

on the flipside, i just quit a wfh job doing almost nothing making $50K and only submitting 1/4 of the project work as completed. I was given 3 months to hand it in at the end of the contract but the manager wanted a draft submitted with 2 weeks before the deadline. I am more than capable of doing the work so planned to fuck around for 2months and did nothing.
sadly for this company I was going to do the entire thing in the last 2 weeks but the manager was such an asshole about tgetting he update it I gave it to him mostly uncompleted and promptly resigned. I got paid $5k a week to do nothing for 10weeks.
kek, fucking assholes. should have just let me hand it in when originally agreed. Zi hope that smug loser gets sacked by his director