Thread 509662220

Alabama, Alaska, Arkansas, Florida, Georgia, Idaho, Indiana, Iowa, Kansas, Kentucky, Louisiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana, Nebraska, New Hampshire, North Dakota, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, South Dakota, Tennessee, Texas, Utah, Virginia, West Virginia, Wisconsin, and Wyoming.

>B-B-But the shitskins can just shit out a mutant in Caliwali and then move to Idaho!
WRONG, the EO states that Idaho will NOT recognize the birth certificate granted in California and your child will still be an ILLEGAL, STATELESS, WITHOUT CITIZENSHIP.

>Trumps Executive Order is as follows:
“policy of the United States” to no longer ISSUE or ACCEPT documentation of citizenship in two scenarios: “(1) when [a] person’s mother was unlawfully present in the United States and the person’s father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth, or (2) when [a] person’s mother’s presence in the United States was lawful but temporary, and the person’s father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth.”

>B-B-B-But this doesn't apply retroactively.
That is what the SCOTUS case in October is for, SCOTUS rulings on Constitutional Interpretations and Questions (In this case the interpretation of Clause 1 of the 14th Amendment) are RETROACTIVE going back to the date the Amendment was ratified which in this case would be July 9th, 1868.

Thank you for your attention to this matter!

this is going to be so funny when they start catching illegals and """deporting""" them to jew york and commiefornia

>>509662220 (OP)
So this affect kids born after that day? Or every minor with illegal parents?

>>509662728
It affects kids born on or after February 19th, 2025. SCOTUS will make it retroactive in October making it affect all children of illegals going back to 1868.

spics are wrecked, top fucking kek. drumpf isn't playing around, he's an absolute madman.

no mas, jajaja.

>>509662220 (OP)
>NH

Represent!

until you throw them over the border then it's just empty words on a piece of paper.
your border guards are mexican.
baka

>>509663251
New cope just dropped!!
Come get your new cope!!!
NEW COPE JUST DROPPED!!
EVERYONE COME GET YOUR NEW COPE HERE!

>>509662790

Incredibly based.

I don't recognize browns as being White or American in any state. Why do you need a government to tell you what to think and who to do business with?

>>509663251

have you not been paying attention, gippo? what do you think drumpf's been up to? deporting brownoid faggots without due process, to random third-world shitholes. ffs, they're building massive camps across muttmerica at the moment.

80% of "white" poltards with mutt flags will be btfo, kek. poetic justice for voting for drumpf.

>>509662790
>retroactive laws
anon, sadly I don't think this is possible

>>509662220 (OP)
Only 28 states?

>>509663760
SCOTUS does NOT "MAKE LAW" SCOTUS does NOT have the POWER to AMEND or ALTER the US Constitution.

Thank you for attention to this matter.

>>509662790
>1868
good luck with that one

>>509663860
Cope and seethe, poop skin.

>>509662220 (OP)
Trump is literally subsidizing white men cucking illegals and whoring brown women out for anchor babies. Holy fucking based.

>>509663656
Oh sure, the memeflaggot must know the truth.

>>509662220 (OP)
Will i make it in time if I get preggo now??

>>509662394
Lots of the ones in NY self-deport because the gibs app dried up. Landlords in the boondocks are seething because they're running out of reasons to charge NYC rents in towns that don't even have a grocery store.

>>509663898
There ain't birth records in the 19th century you moron lmao. You don't even start finding household records until the 1900s for taxes. Marriage records are hard to find outside of catholics as well.

>>509662220 (OP)
So they can just have a kid in a blue state and my federal dollars will still go to them? Great. Not applying retroactively is pointless.

>>509664082
Looks like you are getting deported then, PACO.
I can trace my lineage unbroken back to 1783.

>>509662790
so half of america will be illegal?
good luck with that

>>509662220 (OP)
so no more pajeetas hopping on a plane to plop out smelly little sukhdeeps and become americans. how will the billionaires recover

Again for those who don't understand how SCOTUS works (most of you poop skins):

SCOTUS rulings on constitutional questions and interpretations are RETROACTIVE because to argue otherwise would be to claim that SCOTUS has the power to alter the US Constitution or to "make laws" which they do not. Only through the utilization of Article V in the US constitution can the US Constitution be amended and only Congress has the power to write, vote on, and enact federal laws which are ultimately signed into law by the President of the United States.

>>509663656
Doubt it. I assume most of the mutts live in blue states and vote for democrats. I never see people that look like this mystery meat where I live.

>>509662220 (OP)
>not illinois, california, arizona, new mexico, or jew york
what's the fucking point then

>>509662220 (OP)
>“policy of the United States” to no longer ISSUE or ACCEPT documentation of citizenship in two scenarios: “(1) when [a] person’s mother was unlawfully present in the United States and the person’s father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth, or (2) when [a] person’s mother’s presence in the United States was lawful but temporary, and the person’s father was not a United States citizen or lawful permanent resident at the time of said person’s birth.”
This is weak as hell, all it means is they need to do is shack up with a citizen so a majority of anchor babies are still gonna be citizens. Fucking goddammit, it should be OR not AND ffs. It's like these lawmakers have never been fucked over in a divorce before or held joint ownership of anything in their lives.

>>509664302
If they were trump wouldnt be president.

>>509664372
The point is that Medicaid just got defunded and those states are now going to become giant magnets for illegal shitskins. Jew York freaked the fuck out over just a few plane loads full of illegals a few years ago, Martha's Vineyard literally called in the National Guard when some were air dropped on their manicured lawns.

>>509664142
Those depend on records private records, but there were not good government records before the 1900s

>>509664429
I don't think you know how elections work here. Popular vote doesn't decide our president.

>>509664470
they already were giant magnets for illegal shitskins, they always have been, those are where the majority of illegal shitskins already are, the only state that is included that'll have any effect is spicxas

>>509664577
>>509664429
Nvm. Misunderstood what you were saying.

>>509664632
Not really though. Have you already forgotten Springfield Ohio? Population 27,000 which ballooned to 58,000 after 31,000 Somalians were dropped into the middle of that small town?

You can try to gaslight all you want shitskin, I remember, and so does the rest of the country, they remember.

>>509664577
No but Trump did win the popular vote. Democrats have essentially narrowed to the extremely poor minorities that are low propensity voters (felonies will do that) and the college educated high propensity voters that lack the numbers to consistently win. They’ve lost the middle class.

build the wall, deport them all. faggots.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tKsXMylqaXs

>>509662790
>amerimutts will believe this

bump

>>509662220 (OP)
>tfw half the southern border states will continue business as usual
fuuuuucckk

>>509662790
I think this will make all eruopeans illegal too.

>>509662220 (OP)
Good, lets do it. Never should have been a thing to begin with. What an idiotic concept.

>>509662220 (OP)
Based
Saw some suspicious beans the other day and reported them to state police

>>509662790
It’s not retroactive because it was already the law it’s just they weren’t being followed because reasons
Trumps EO is literally what written in the 14th lol

>>509674105
SCOTUS rulings are Retroactive
POTUS Executive Order is not Retroactive
SCOTUS rulings supersede Executive Orders from POTUS

>>509664169
It’ll be only Germans left because they’re the only ones compulsive enough to fill out the paperwork.

>>509664082
>1868
All actual white people that came after are naturalized except Jews but that’s a different discussion
The point your looking for is in the 60’s when they changed immigration law slowing browns to immigrant
People are coping people are seething lol

>>509662220 (OP)
I want to believe, but this mainly just sounds like a two more weeks scenario

>>509664112
It only selective until the court rules on birth right citizenship

>>509674768
SCOTUS has already ruled on June 27th, 2025
POTUS has already signed the Executive Order
this IS HAPPENING and there is nothing anyone can do to stop it

>>509670050
Until the SCROTUS rules on birth right citizenship and the very clear wording of the 14th amendment that made it clear anchor babies are not citizens

>>509662220 (OP)
Zoomers are already majority non-white. There's no saving your retarded kike country.

>>509674213
My point is that it’s technically not retroactive because it’s always been the law that wasn’t being followed but the Supreme Court has to rule on that

>>509675498
SCOTUS rulings apply RETROACTIVELY

>>509663467
Due process is for citizens Rabbi Sukdeep. If someone breaks into your home do you wait for a court date to get the thief evicted knowing he won't show up or do you kick him out right away? 100% of these people are criminals by illegal entry or overstaying a visa.

>>509675673
SCOTUS rulings on constitutional questions and interpretations are RETROACTIVE because to argue otherwise would be to claim that SCOTUS has the power to alter the US Constitution or to "make laws" which they do not. Only through the utilization of Article V in the US constitution can the US Constitution be amended and only Congress has the power to write, vote on, and enact federal laws which are ultimately signed into law by the President of the United States.

>>509662790
There weren't any immigration laws on the books until the 1930's. Those laws restricted immigration from Southern Europe and effectively banned immigration from East Asia. How would it even work.

>>509676085
Permanent Resident Card Registry (Green Card) system was created in 1929 you lying kike.

>>509675807
Iaws that have not been enforced in the past but at some future date are not “retroactive”
Retroactive means laws passed at a future date apply to past actions
ex post facto laws

>>509676445
You keep saying "laws" I don't think you quite understand what SCOTUS does.

SCOTUS rulings on constitutional questions and interpretations are RETROACTIVE because to argue otherwise would be to claim that SCOTUS has the power to alter the US Constitution or to "make laws" which they do not. Only through the utilization of Article V in the US constitution can the US Constitution be amended and only Congress has the power to write, vote on, and enact federal laws which are ultimately signed into law by the President of the United States.

>>509676085
>1930
Try The Page Act of 1875 which specifically banned Asian women primarily Chinese lmao
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Page_Act_of_1875

>>509663760
>RETROACTIVE going back to the date the Amendment was ratified which in this case would be July 9th, 1868.
>>509663860
>>509664169
>>509665933
>>509671799
People are so retarded. Especially foreigners.
>"If we remove birthright citizenship, then how will people become citizens?"
If one or both parents are citizens, they become citizens
>"What about Baron trump!?"
His father is a citizen
>"What about le white people?"
Anyone who has one ancestor that is American will be American.

>>509676832
ILLEGAL + ILLEGAL = NO CITIZEN
ILLEGAL + PERMANENT RESIDENT = NO CITIZEN
PERMANENT RESIDENT + PERMANENT RESIDENT = CITIZEN
ILLEGAL + CITIZEN = CITIZEN
PERMANENT RESIDENT + CITIZEN = CITIZEN
CITIZEN + CITIZEN = CITIZEN

>>509676513
Nigger the 14th amendment is a law
it says rather clearly that anchor babies are not us citizens but because reasons that has been ignored for at-least 50 years and now the SCOTUS has to rule on the “constitutional interpretation” of the 14th to make the law actually enforceable again in the year of the lord currant year
Anchor babies have always been non citizens which is why trump is issuing the EO

>>509677117
No, it's the constitution
The constitution supersedes ALL, it is what ALL judges, ALL congressmen, ALL prosecutors, swear to uphold.

SCOTUS does NOT possess the AUTHORITY nor the POWER to alter the constitution thus their interpretation of the 14th in October will be as the 14th ALWAYS WAS thus it will be retroactive in nature even if it makes certain "laws" passed by congress unconstitutional that is the POWER granted to the Supreme Court of the United States of America.

>>509676991
>ILLEGAL + PERMANENT RESIDENT = NO CITIZEN
Is this true?

>>509677512
Yep, you can thank Wong Kim Ark for that one.

>>509677313
>No, it's the constitution
The constitution is the law of the land you expert nigger lol
Laws that have already been passed but not enforced are not “retroactive”
When the court makes a ruling in most cases it’s just “enforceable” but not retroactive ie ex post facto laws which as you have rather brilliantly pointed out they don’t make
SCOTUS main function is to make sure laws passed are constitutional and laws that have already been passed are enforced legally such in the case of the 14th amendment birth right citizenship

>>509678083
Constitution supersedes EVERYTHING
POTUS cannot make EO's that are explicitly unconstitutional
Congress cannot make laws that are explicitly unconstitutional
When SCOTUS makes rulings ON the Constitution itself in their majority opinions on constitutional questions and interpretations those rulings are by DEFINITION, RETROACTIVE because to argue otherwise would be to claim that SCOTUS has the AUTHORITY or POWER to alter or amend the US Constitution which of course they don't.

That power solely rests with Article V of the US Constitution, here I will quote it for you;

>The Congress, whenever two thirds of both houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose amendments to this Constitution, or, on the application of the legislatures of two thirds of the several states, shall call a convention for proposing amendments, which, in either case, shall be valid to all intents and purposes, as part of this Constitution, when ratified by the legislatures of three fourths of the several states, or by conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other mode of ratification may be proposed by the Congress; provided that no amendment which may be made prior to the year one thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any manner affect the first and fourth clauses in the ninth section of the first article; and that no state, without its consent, shall be deprived of its equal suffrage in the Senate.


SCOTUS CANNOT AMEND THE CONSTITUTION THUS THEIR RULINGS ARE SEEN AS WHAT THE CONSTITUTION HAS ALWAYS MEANT/ALWAYS WAS.

I'm alright with getting deported and taking one for the team, anons. I'm married and will be brought back soon.

>>509678355
Coon bot 3000 get an update!
It’s 2025 you should be able to have an actual conversation without out repeating your spiel over and over Jesus
It’s a kind of semantical agreement anyway but you wrong

>>509679325
The Supreme Court's decisions are viewed as clarifying the Constitution's true meaning from the outset. As Chief Justice John Marshall wrote in Marbury v. Madison (1803), the judiciary's duty is "to say what the law is." Thus, a constitutional ruling is not a new law but a recognition of what the Constitution has ALWAYS required.

Should be ALL states...this should be for the whole country...Enough fucking playing games with these traitor dems...

>>509678355
>THUS THEIR RULINGS ARE SEEN AS WHAT THE CONSTITUTION HAS ALWAYS MEANT/ALWAYS WAS.
Fucking exactly so that doesn't make them “retroactive”
Your mother was windows vista lol

>>509679690
If something is being applied from the date of the amendments ratification to "current date" that is by very definition retroactive!

>>509664749
somalian rapefugees aren't illegal immigrants, retarded nigger, this shit does NOTHING to the illegals in this ciuntry because it only touches ONE of their MANY primary hubs, DUMB GORILLA MONKEY MIGANIGGER FAGGOT

>>509679821
They were illegal immigrants, retard. They were just granted TPS which is a bullshit designation that a President can declare any group or individual as a member of. It's meant for actual refugees like when a country has a volcano explode and millions of people die or some shit.

>>509679963
I should also point out that Trump used this same bullshit TPS status on those White South Africans and the shitlibs lost their fucking minds over it.

>>509678882
>I'm okay with helping so long as I can jew my way back in
What lesson are you learning then?

>>509679612
But they don’t count “retroactively” they just become “enforceable” ie the court has made clear the meaning and intention of said law
It’s only retroactive if it was never a law and then became an ex post facto law ie it can be enforced retroactively

>>509680218
Incorrect see Brown v. Board of Education, Griffin v. California, Teague v. Lane, etc. etc. etc.

>>509679780
It is not and iv already explained why several times
Laws are laws it has applied the whole time but not been enforced
they will be once SCOTUS rules on the interpretation argument though
In this instance it’s the exact opposite of retroactive

>>509680398
Explain in your own words how those cases applied “retroactively”

>>509679963
they WEREN'T illegal immigrants you hyper retarded nigger, they were FLOWN IN, they didn't illegally hop the fucking border, dumb fucking faggot cocksucking miganigger retard, kill your retarded self before i kill you myself

the whole dna kit/ancestry/23andme scam was the first trump admin building family trees to see who they can deport once they got rid of birthright citizenship during the second admin
best part is they got our boomers to pay for it

>>509681965
>enter country illegally
>get flown from border to Springfield Ohio by Biden Administration
>Be granted TPS status with a swipe of a pen from POTUS
>THEY WEREN'T ILLEGAL CHUD!!!

Why is the opposition like this?

Most people I know that have an American citizenship is because their parents went to El Paso a few days before they were born. Back in 7th grade there was a kid who used to make fun of me for not being born there, but he is the one who is about to lose his citizenship now.

>>509682829
>enter ciuntry illegally
WRONG, RETARDED NIGGER
THE GOVERNMENT FLEW THOSE NIGGERS IN THEMSELVES
STOP BEING AFRICAN