about 40%?
Are we forgetting state income tax?

I wish words still meant things

>>509674540 (OP)
Income tax is the second plank to the communist manifesto.

>>509674540 (OP)
his one word replies like this are infuriating for some reason

>>509674540 (OP)
100% taxation is 100% slavery.

>>509674930
He's highlighting a basic fact in an irrefutable way. Obviously America is much more communist than 40%, but this is a strong point that can't be argued against, so it's worth saying.

You have to remember most people are completely fooled and think we live in some supply and demand fueled capitalist paradise.

>>509675097
shut the fuck up you faggot tourist redditor

>>509675097
>communism
Does anybody tell you what your job is? What a clown

>>509675269
Yes. Look around. Indians in tech. Niggers in government work. Yids in banking and investment. This is a full blown communist command economy.

>>509675269
Property tax is the first plank to the communist manifesto. Central banking is the fifth. Government school is the tenth. Car registration is the sixth. America is a communist country.

>>509674540 (OP)
The rich were taxed at 90% during the greatest period of US history, before the kikes pushed for new senators and house representatives and all these elected officials pushed for laws to crated loop holes in taxation and lower taxes for kikes.

>>509674540 (OP)
From what I've read of communism there ideally wouldn't be tax in the first place because there would be no currency, you supposedly just work and divvy up the results of everyone's collective effort among the population. It's when you introduce currency or the temptation of personal gain that it gets convoluted and it's impossible to maintain while surrounding countries maintain capitalist workings, since it tempts those of the collective to be bribed for personal gain or leave altogether. Communism only works in a smaller homogeneous vacuum, it's essentially a nuclear family with attempted enforcing on a larger scale but that's impossible to maintain, most people don't give a shit about extended family they never see so they fuck each other over eventually. The irony is commies don't see how them fucking over the nuclear family for liberal and socialist idealism, kneecaps any possibility of a commune like system working out.

>>509675097

Are you a bot or just retarded. Embarrassing. Read a fucking book ffs

>>509675269
government already tells companies to hire niggers, faggots and women at specific ratios or be exposed to discrimination fines and lawsuits
again you aren't communist, just halfway there

>>509674540 (OP)
elon musk pays jack shit for taxes. he is paid with stock options so any selling gets tapped as long-term cap gains and I'm sure his kike lawyers have end-arounds for that.

>>509675902
A jewish book? No thanks. Communism is here right now. If you deny it then you're either jewish or you're so deep in the matrix you think you're smarter than everyone else. That's typically how brainwashing works. You have false ideas that you think are an "evolution" of what is actually simply true. That's why you can't see supply and demand doesn't exist. The people who have the supply are also the ones making the demand, because that's who has the money. Capitalism for us is a total illusion. It says "Sure, go ahead and start your business" because they know full well you will fail.

>>509675735
almost all "serious" commies advocate for a credit system, which is pretty much money but worse and allows them to cope about having a moneyless society

>>509675008
correct

>>509674540 (OP)
>Communism is when taxes
Friendly reminder that the maximum income tax rate in the USSR was 13%

>>509674540 (OP)
Shes way off. After they fuck you in the neck for gas and sales taxes, rising inflation we're keeping about 25% of our wages

>>509676170
taxes are symbolic when the state owns the means of production and determines your pay rate

>>509675396
>>509675403
>>509675977
So, no. Goddamb how embarrassing.

>>509676170
money was worthless, if you work you work for free basically, people were going to work to steal as much stuff as possible and then trading in black market

>>509676089
>credit system
This is not a monetary system though, it's intended to be a compliance enforcement measure for their collective. Can't have any bad eggs promoting individualism.

>>509676360
>the state owns the means of production
Yes, that is what communism is.

>>509676508
>work you work for free basically
except you also got housing, food, education, and healthcare for free.
see how that works?

>>509675977
nobody's forced to apply for those jobs though so you are still wrong

>>509676508
Yep, it's the only way to get ahead because we are being stolen from.

>>509674540 (OP)
I'm now 95% certain that no one on the Right knows what communism or socialism actually are.

>>509674725
spbp

>>509676589
And you can't own more than that shitty housing, shitty food, shitty education, and shitty healthcare. I'd rather have a choice to earn more and allowed to buy multiple cars and houses because I can afford it in a profession I chose. Communism only appeals to the low-skilled retards. We superior beings always want to earn our worth.

>>509676170
Most Soviet citizens did not have toilet paper or cars, what were they going to tax, bud?

>>509676792
>I'd rather have a choice to earn more and allowed to buy multiple cars and houses because I can afford it in a profession I chose
Tell us more about your rich parents.

>>509676634
This is not true. You can argue dishonestly and say that Jeets are not required to work in tech, and that's true, but if you look at the systems in place, they are algorithmically being funneled to that work, while other people are being denied.

A real life example of this so you can't cowardly suggest I don't know what I'm talking about: A quirk of the H1B visa propgram states companies are forced to attempt to hire Americans first. So they infamously turn down Americans and then claim they need Jeets.

>>509674540 (OP)
Only top 1 percent pays around 40 the fuck

>>509676589
>housing, food, education, and healthcare for free
you don't get it for free, it is extracted from your labor in advance
in the case of education or healthcare, you pay for it even if you never end up using it (because you were healthy or because you weren't interested in college)

>>509677023
>healthcare, you pay for it even if you never end up using it
sounds a lot like private health insurance

>>509676075
I'm so tired of you retards, goddamn

>>509674540 (OP)
>100% taxation is called Communism
Taxation doesn't exist under Communism it is specifically a way for Capitalist economies to generate income. These people are ignorant and uneducated.

>>509676589
education was somewhat ok, but healthcare, food and housing were horrible, we lived in a one room apartment without kitchen and toilet, you had to trade something to get better food, because stores were always empty, because better food was stolen before reaching shelves

>>509677079
the point of health insurance originally was much like any other insurance type (like fire insurance): peace of mind for something unlikely to happen, like a serious disease
if everyone used insurance as a mediator for healthcare expenses, its cost would eventually become equal to the market rate and be pointless to have

that the concept of health insurance degenerated into a pseudo "free healthcare package" due to politics is a whole other issue

>>509677210
The CIA spent decades doing everything it could to destabilize the USSR.
There are extensive documents about how they propped up the black markets to bring about discontent.

If communism is such a failure, why did it take so much work to make it fail?

>>509677109
I'm tired of 1 post retards sniping me from the audience crying about what I say. Make an argument or fuck off.

>>509675396
Allowing foreigners to hollow out your nation and selling your people’s future for a quick profit is peak capitalism. People warned capitalists from the beginning that the system would get captured and turn into this. I’m not a communist by any means, but it’s clear that capitalism isn’t working. There have to be other options outside of the capitalism-communism dichotomy. Neither of those terms even existed until 200 years ago.

>>509675714
This. A 100% tax rate would be like heaven on earth.

>>509677079
All countries on planet Earth either force you buy healthcare premiums like Japan, Germany or Israel and the rest just take out of your payroll.
There are no other systems.

>>509677339
No doubt we arrived here from a capitalist path. But if you look at what is happening in the country, it is a wealth redistribution scheme.

>>509677327
>The CIA spent decades doing every thing it could to destabilize the USSR.
The KGB funded race wars in the US.

>>509677339
Oh yes, I agree completely. I should have read your post in its entirety before replying.

Of course I have no solutions. Apart from gradually exposing the entire house of cards and the jews by extension.

>>509676903
Put the fries in the bag, nigger. I earn more than you'll ever dream of. It's your parents fault for having inferior genes and inferior race. I will always trample you peasants since you can't even climb up despite all the education this free country provides. Just shows that people like you are well-deserved to be beneath us since we carry the civilization for everyone else with our talents. Now tell me about your retarded parents from the hood, that is if you have a father.

>>509674540 (OP)
>just say communism
>Simple as.

Yep, it sure is

Whatever you don't like, just namecall it communism

>>509677428
>But if you look at what is happening in the country, it is a wealth redistribution scheme.
Yeah - they're redistributing wealth from the poor to the billionaires.

>>509677428
People 100+ years ago were saying that capitalism would lead to uber-wealthy Rockefeller types buying out our institutions and our governments to create monopolies and other unfair situations. People told them to shut the fuck up and that the invisible hand of the free market would magically sort everything out. It’s almost like people had the mind to see this shit coming but Ty ye were ignored because their warnings didn’t make people feel good.

>>509677339
What do you do for a living?

>>509677533
>I earn more than you'll ever dream of
Your paycheck may be larger, but I promise you don't "earn" shit.

>>509674540 (OP)
can fucking people who live in first world capitalist countries stop calling their governments communists, please? it's getting ridiculous at this point. it's the same shit with american boomers calling liberals leftists. fucking hell, i thought you guys were supposed to be levels ahead of everyone else when it comes to education?

>>509677615
This. Just look at the monopoly power that Sears and Ford have today.

>>509677631
I’m a software developer. I don’t expect my job to still exist in 10 years

>>509676792
>We superior beings always want to earn our worth.
The ruling classes don't earn their worth they are bred into it. You are inferior.
>>509677206
>it is specifically a way for Capitalist economies to generate income.
Capitalist states I mean.
>>>509677327
Yes and Cuba. Sugar cane(Cuba's largest export) emargos and sabotaging Sugar cane crops. All because Castro kicked the Jews out of the Casinos and hotels nationalised their companies.

>>509677615
>capitalism
You mean federalism, capitalism has been around for 300-400 years.

>>509677714
You sound like you live in a shit hole like California or New York where everything is expensive and really guides your worldview

>>509677738
>Yes and Cuba
Cuba is still embargoed and has a longer life expectancy than the US on 1/20 the GDP per cap.

>>509677676
Everyone on the left is a commie, some are just in the closet because they’re gay faggots.

>>509674540 (OP)
At this point I am not even sure communism is bad. Whatever this is seems to be trending in a worse direction. At least the USSR had a growing white population. Jeet bioweapon capitalism seems to be the worst possible system.

>>509677804
I live in Florida and things aren’t that expensive here. But my grandpa was able to afford a 3 bedroom house on 2 acres of land, when all he had was a 7th grade education and a job working at a paper mill. Things have gotten worse over time and it’s harder than ever to make a living. That’s just a fact

>>509677559
Correct.

>>509677615
Kek. The "invisible hand". What an overt jewish creation. Like I said earlier, how the fuck is there supply and demand when the people making demands are also they suppliers? Everyone knows it takes money to make money... until you ask them how the fuck you're supposed to afford a house, then it's all bootstraps and platitudes about "Opportunity" that gets immediately sucked up by people with more money.

>>509677841
sure they are
you probably think destiny is a commie too lol

>>509674540 (OP)
Yeah, but capitalism is no less gay because it produces faggots like Musk who think they are the government.

>>509677817
Cuba's life expectancy statistics are self reported; there's no evidence of it being true. Especially when there's no private media within Cuba to independently verify it because it's illegal.

>>509677931
>lives in Florida
So you are nonwhite. Cool.

Crazy how our country, society and economy peaked when we were 90% communist.

>>509674725
communism is when tax, ok?

>>509678024
I have doctor friends who've done international relief work with Cuban doctors.
They attest that Cuba produces excellent doctors, and in such surplus that they export them to the rest of the world (voluntarily).

>>509677931
>Lives in Miami
>Shocked its expensive
Lol

>>509677327
>If communism is such a failure, why did it take so much work to make it fail?
if you were loyal and good commie and had friends in higher positions, you did well it was all about connections zero competence needed to do well and it doesnt matter how good you were at your job, if u had no connections you were fucking poor, so when you say failure, it was a horrible period for like 99% of people and amazing for 1%

>>509674540 (OP)
The community is entitled to return of investment in its members. You will never be rich or own anything so there's no need to worship the ideologies of those who are and do.

>>509676005
Even google can answer this

"In the context of the Pandora Papers investigation, "Pandora's Box" refers to the complex and often opaque world of offshore trusts and shell companies used to hide wealth and potentially facilitate illicit activities like tax evasion and money laundering. These structures, while not inherently illegal, can be exploited to shield assets from scrutiny, making it difficult to track the true beneficial owners and the origins of funds. "

>>509678010
Destiny larps to appear reasonable, but deep down he’s a closet commie.

>>509678092
Hearsay is not evidence dude

How did we pay for world War 2? Communism

>>509678126
>it was a horrible period for like 99% of people and amazing for 1%
Depends on your starting position, I suppose.
When the USSR began, 99% of Eastern Europe were peasant farmers.

Coming from that background, I imagine guaranteed food, shelter, and education would be like paradise.
Coming from the background of a bourgeois brat, maybe not so much.

>>509675097
>communism = my country controlled by Jews
>capitalism = my country controlled by Jews
I wonder if there is a third option?

>>509678251
You can read all about Cuba's doctor exports online. It's widely reported on.
Anyway, all countries self-report their life expectancy stats.
Not sure why you've decided Cuba is exceptionally untrustworthy.

If anything, I'd be more suspicious of America's numbers.

>>509678321
The USSR's industrialization was not impressive or unique. Japan did it without famous or any of the deaths seen in any communist country.

>>509678110
There is no reason to discuss logic to the residents of a state built entirely on Jewish theft of an internally predatory economy like Florida. You might as well debate an Israeli.

>>509675097
>reagan was really good for this country i swear

>>509678385
What if you kill the jews then have 0% taxes and free market?

>>509678466
It's pretty impressive when you consider they did it with Russians.

>>509678546
Kek

>>509678466
Japan did it while invading every country in its periphery, including Russia.
They also did it with shitloads of foreign tech and foreign investments (including a British-built navy that helped set Russia back significantly in the Russo-Japanese war).

The USSR did it on its own, while being actively sabotaged from every direction by hostile foreign powers.

>>509678411
Hearsay is not evidence or proof, dude. It doesn't matter what people say. That matters is proof.
>Anyway, all countries self-report their life expectancy stats.
Cuba is one of the few countries where self reported statistics are not independently verifiable because the government bans private media.

>>509678588
You just described everything the Soviets did, and Japan was able to do it without the deaths of destruction seen in the USSR.

>>509676700
Americans never knew what communism or socialism are and that's by design. There's a reason why anti-communism in America was focused around economics when anti-communism in Europe was focused around race and hierarchy.

>>509674540 (OP)
>3 fifths a free man

Taxation isnt communism
Your twitter retards havent got a clue what theyre tweeting about

>>509678599
Yeah, like Fox News is out there independently verifying US Life Expectancy stats?
Give me a break.
And yet again, it's not hearsay that Cuba exports doctors.
Read all about it, nigger:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cuban_medical_internationalism

>>509678466
Japan didn't have Jews or Chinese elites. That's the difference. They had to start at the bottom in the 1800s but managed to catch up to the west in a single generation all on their own efforts.

>>509678588
>The USSR did it on its own, while being actively sabotaged from every direction by hostile foreign powers.
This is false. They relied heavily on American engineers and British companies. Ford and the Koch family played a significant role in the industerialization of the USSR.

>>509678691
croapetian

>>509678712
>managed to catch up to the west in a single generation all on their own efforts.
Nothing could be further from the truth:
>>509678588

>>509678692
>Yeah, like Fox News is out there independently verifying US Life Expectancy stats?
But it's not only Fox News. It's CNN, New York Times, et cetera - its dozens of private and international media organizations that do. Cuba there's only the government because they ban media. Your argument doesn't make any sense.

>>509678733
The United States and Britain INVADED Russia in 1919 to fight in the civil war on behalf of the white army.
You're retarded.

>>509678845
>The United States and Britain INVADED Russia in 1919 to fight in the civil war on behalf of the white army.
Russia invaded the Baltics (Estonia, Lithunia, Georgia, Finland) and plenty of other countries between 1918-1923.

>>509678536
What if we killed the Jews and had like 35-50 tax depending on income. Like our current system but no Jews. It probably would be pretty good if Jeet and Jewish scammers weren't stealing half the tax money.

>>509678930
*Liberated

>>509674540 (OP)
>Taxed 100%
Ackshyually, high paid people in the soviet union were taxed 50%; ex.: that's what pole vault world champion Sergey Bubka was paying on what he made from international meetings.
Meanwhile in Sweden, you could be paying 90% taxes.

>>509679054
>Liberated countries kick you out
That's not how liberation works, bud

People only hate communism cause boomer movies with the old boomer guy yelling commies

>>509674540 (OP)
but the soviet union did give people a salary, there was no 100% taxation? why are amerimutts so retarded?

Government runs things better than private because the government is focused on service for the population rather than maximizing profit.

Sorry free market chuds, only in a few rare cases has private ever outperformed public. Mostly just production lines.

>>509679216
It's weird seeing you say this when Xi himself says welfare is bad and that companies to make the most money to be useful.

>>509679172
>boomer movies
basically the jews told them it's bad

>>509679116
You have a terrible understanding of Soviet history.
The Finns, for example, overthrew their monarch after the October revolution and willingly joined the USSR

>>509674689
its definitely closer to 90%. people have no idea how much of their wealth is stolen.

>>509679443
armenia also happily joined, the USSR meant stability and security in the region after the turkroach performed their genocide; today armenians have no hate for the ussr

>>509679052
>1/3 to 1/2 of your labor belongs to the government

>>509679172
>People only hate communism cause boomer movies with the old boomer guy yelling commies
Hammers and sickles do not swing themselves. To seize the means of production is to seize the hands of the people; to seize the hands of the people is the basis of all tyranny.
Read a fucking book already you stupid faggot.

>>509679052
>What if we killed the Jews and had like 35-50 tax depending on income
its not about the number but who decides how much you are taxed, if you can't choose to pay or not to pay, you are a fucking slave

not only are americans paying taxes, their leaders are so corrupted, that all their taxes are being stolen, or even used against them

>>509679842
marx wrote that russia was the perfect place for communism to form because the elite jews lived comfortably while the majority of the nation and its means of production belonged to the people; there was no need for tyranny, the common farmer and worker rose willingly against the elite jews

to this day most of the land of russia belongs to poor workers, while the elites live in luxury in the two main cities

>>509674930
Okay

>>509679662
Idk, I bet a zero Jew government would fix the roads and run nice schools and hospitals.
>>509679896
I am suggesting an income tax like exists in all countries but no Jews. Obviously Jews like you hate taxes being used to fund things goyim use.

>>509674540 (OP)
How does Elon Musk, who supposedly is CEO of five companies, find time to browse X/Twitter all day long?

>>509680444
How does he also have time to play video games 14 hours a day? Makes you think. His assets should be nationalized without compensation. Just him.