The MGTOW mindset and slogans like “no hymen, no diamond” aren’t redpilled; they’re just refined forms of cope. What began as a critique of degenerate Western culture has turned into a blackpill echo chamber full of men who have given up on building families, blaming women for everything while doing nothing to change the world they complain about. Obsessing over virginity and purity tests does not make you a defender of tradition. It turns you into a passive observer, watching your people disappear while pretending to be morally superior. If your solution to feminism is isolation and celibacy, you have already lost. You are not fighting back; you are walking away.

You cannot save the West without families. You cannot fight demographic collapse if you are afraid of women or convinced that none are worth the risk. Weak men blaming women for their own failure to lead is just another form of decay. If you actually care about your people, your nation, or your future, then you get serious. You find the best woman you can, build something stable, and raise children with values. Otherwise, you are just another doomer helping speed up the very decline you claim to oppose. The death of the West is not only caused by globalism or feminism. It is also driven by men who retreat into apathy and call it wisdom.

One must marry a girl without inquiring whether she has engaged in sexual activity before or not.
If one says, “I would rather die than marry a whore,” that sentiment aligns with the concept of eugenics.
An incel has no right to reproduce, as incel genetics would be passed on.
Only Chads and Stacys are deemed worthy of being born.
Incel misogynists deserve to die alone, without offspring.

Z

New Jeetcel thread just dropped!

>>509682028 (OP)
Too Jewish.

one of the worst things about tiktok
is that people don't take "pictures" any more
to represent themselves
it's all video, and then
when people want to represent themselves
as a static image
in the form of a moment,
single frames are extracted
from the compressed video.
but these p-frames are missing
all sorts of detail, plus on
top of the AI filters that eliminate
any semblance of texture,
you end up with a very artificial looking
representation of reality.
look at this specimens face,
there's no detail,
nothing.
people joke about "1999 webcam"
quality images of the past yet seem
utterly oblivious to how camera
quality nowadays is worse in many ways.

>>509682472
Yeah and her eyes are brown which makes it even worse to look at.

>>509682028 (OP)
You're acting like men somehow have some kind of control over the situation at all, when they don't, short of violence which will result in spending the rest of your life in prison.

who wants fukked up wymyn

>>509682142
fucking kek and real

>>509682028 (OP)
Truly yours,
Ran-through, blown out whore.

>>509682028 (OP)
ok anon. you got me. so what do you say we do instead??


im waiting.

>>509682472
and even pictures from iphones use all sorts of algroythims to enhance the picture. you can tell this wa shot on an iphone 13 just by looking at it.

Hey.....

The thing is I'm just not gonna do it (marry the roastie)

I know.........UGH I know.....

I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

But basically I'm just not gonna do it is all!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAA

>>509683539
not even have fcuk buddies???

those dont require much..

>>509682028 (OP)
>One must marry a girl without inquiring whether she has engaged in sexual activity before or not.
Next time just say "IM A KEK" and kys

>>509683857
ok so dont marry....

what about having sex tho???

>>509682028 (OP)
>If one says, “I would rather die than marry a whore,” that sentiment aligns with the concept of eugenics.
Maybe a race that has mostly whores to offer should perish.

>>509682028 (OP)
>care about your people, your nation, or your future, then you get serious.
The very people and nation that produced a saying "Hungarian is a wolf of Hungarians" before I was ever born is a nation and people I should give a fuck about?
Why?

>>509682028 (OP)
It has never been easier for average normal guys to get prime pussy or a high quality gf/wife if the want one.
All incels are just weak, timid, completely feminized garbage tier men who are too neurotic and socially retarded to even attempt to talk to girls.
The 4th was on Friday this year, which means every fucking bar, pub, club, etc was absolutely packed with people this year. Every single 18-29 year old cute White female in the country, all 30 million of them, were out there, actively looking for the guy to spend the rest of their life with.
If you just sat at home, alone, browsing 4chan all weekend, then it is ENTIRELY your own fault that you are a sad, lonely adult virgin loser.

>>509682028 (OP)
I think most people figured that out, which is why (((mgtow))) died. and it died years ago. what's the point of the thread memeflag?

>>509682028 (OP)
MGTOW is great, how on earth do you fight feminism by not getting married and going along with what spoiled feminist chicks want you to do?????

MEANWHILE we had an Amish girl thread that was incredibly based.

>>509682615
YEAH I KNOW!!

>>509682028 (OP)
Men have declared spiritual jihad on women and it shows as they slowly begin to lose it. This is it anons, the real gender war has begun, not the fake one with countless pronouns that is being shilled everywhere in the media, but the real gender war between man and woman.
Women are about to learn a harsh lesson.

Don't talk to women, don't help them, don't ask them out, don't have dating apps, don't interact with them. If a woman approaches you be nice and respectful but do not flirt or overtly joke, treat them as an equal man and then leave after the reason for the conversation is over. If a girl comes up to you and flirts kindly turn her down, if she asks you out suddenly say no thank you, don't make up a reason she only has agency because of some external reason not because she likes you. Be vague when talking about your life or weekend plans, anything you do or do with them like hooking up will be picked apart and analyzed by her and her online friends. You are a traitor and not helping anyone if you fall for their tricks.
If men can't display a modicum of power over society, this world and women, then I guess they don't hold much power at all.

>>509682028 (OP)
Incels having any opinion on marriage, sex, women or birth rates is like a morbidly obese man complaining nobody is going to the gym or eating healthy

>>509682028 (OP)
Gay blog, jew

>>509684225
>if has never been easier
completely wrong, its getting extremely hard to get prime pussy as a 25-35 year old man because you likely dont have much money and thats mostly what women in cities see. most bars are filled with dudes with only a couple of women, and even if women do walk in theres going to be someone taller/bigger than you that will they'll want to talk to more. women have been programmed to fuck anything but a white guy slightly older than them, it gives them the "ick". they'd rather fuck a 50 year old with cash than a 30 year old struggling to get by.

>>509682028 (OP)
Each roastie whore that has its throat slit is one less race traitor, you pigfucking piece of subhuman kikel shit.

>>509682028 (OP)

Noone cares about virginity. Its an online larp from ugly nerds here who have never touched a woman.

>>509682028 (OP)
>One must marry a girl without inquiring whether she has engaged in sexual activity before or not.

haha, no. whore genes will be rooted out at any cost.

red pill is pua repackaged for chuds
>top 10 opening lines to meet women
>to save the white race!
>you just need to learn some game
>to save the white race!
>just put yourself out there and be confident
>to save the white race!
if you're not black pilled in 2025 then it's because you won't accept the reality of what we live in
going out there and getting some ready to settle 28 yo libtard carousel rider pregnant isn't saving the white race
We need drastic political and economic changes if we want to change birthrates etc

>>509685875
You don't get any pussy because you think it takes money to get pussy.
Trying to play the beta bucks simp provider game in 2025 does more harm than good. Girls will be happy to take advantage of the free food and drinks and attention and everything else those guys give them, but don't fuck them.
They guys they are fucking don't need to do any of that shit because all of her friendzoned male orbiters do it for him.
The last chick I fucked was drunk one night and told me that before she met me she would see me around and had a fantasy about me stalking her and basically rape fantasy.
The one before that told me how she was so happy to finally get with the guy who hates her, because I was always a dick to her because she was annoying.
The one before that fucked me because I won at bar trivia one night.
I never spent a penny on any of them.

>>509683806
I do. And you are right. Pretty low effort. The funnier thing is that some go on dates with guys, but at the end of it, they end up hooking up with me.
I could only do this after I turned 30, though. I have no idea what changed, but since I turned 30, I get loads more attention

>>509682028 (OP)
Lol this picture is from a BBC porn video. Idk how she fits it

why would anyone engage with someone not even honest enough to use their real flag

>>509686435
>off topic nonsense

We don’t care about your hookups. Let us know when you actually managed to keep one of these whores longer than one night.

>>509682028 (OP)
No tail no diamond is redpilled.

>>509687201
>Let us know when you actually managed to keep one of these whores longer than one night.
You have no idea what you are talking about if you think it is difficult to turn a hookup into a relationship. It's the exact opposite of that.
Even if you tell a girl that you want to keep it casual and aren't interested in anything serious and she agrees to it, they almost immediately start pushing for something more serious.

>>509682028 (OP)
Very good post.
Well written.
Pol should be more like this.

>>509682142
>>509682397
>>509682472
>>509682615
deluxe "memeflag" spam. time-wasting and inane
>>509682728

>>509682028 (OP)
You have to understand that i do not want a white wife who hates her own white children and sells their futures away to third worlders. This is my main concern and non-woke women are increasibly rare

>>509682142

>>509682028 (OP)
You will never be a young woman again! Your beauty fades like the setting sun each year passes by. Men's eyes once wandered eagerly over your youthful curves; now they pass over wrinkled skin with barely a glance.

The smoothness of your skin dulls into coarse texture that lotions can't hide. Gravity drags down once perk breasts toward the floor while sagging stomach bloats outwards, disproportional to your diminishing frame.

Younger women stride past confidently, their tight bodies straining against clothes that barely contain them, a cruel reminder of vitality stolen away year by year from you through time's relentless march. They are admired openly, lusted after shamelessly. You were once worshiped thus but those days recede into distant memory now.

You may dye grey hairs and lift fallen flesh surgically restored for another day or two longer at the masquerade game of eternal youth. But the facade crumbles soon enough come tomorrow mornings when you confront ravaged skin again in your mirror. The lies only delay acceptance that beauty is fleeting like morning dew before searing noon.

Men still see what stares back: a haggard, sexless husk drained dry by time's relentless tide pouring over you like tidal wave sucking away youth forever lost beneath its crashing foam of years gone by and never returned.

>>509682028 (OP)
All simps should be skinned alive. Stop simping.

>>509684225
100% this anon has a face full of herpes and an ass full of AIDS.

>>509683806
Herpes, HepC, the clap, gonnerea, AIDS (from the roastie fucking so many niggers)- thats the price you pay for your roasting fuckbuddy.

>>509690746
Needs a little work, but pretty decent pasta.

>>509682028 (OP)
Does this pass the turning test ?
>MGTOW
>mindset
>no hymen, no diamond
>redpilled
>cope
>degenerate
>Western culture
>blackpill
>echo chamber
>you a defender of tradition
>Weak men blaming women
>doomer
>The death of the West
(it’s joever)
>One must marry a girl without inquiring whether she has engaged in sexual activity before or not.
>incel
>incel genetics
>Chads
>Stacys
>Incel misogynists deserve to die

This wasn’t written by a human, the question is, was it written by a redditoid or an AI?

>>509682028 (OP)
>If you actually care about your people, your nation, or your future
Not really.
It can burn for all I care.

>>509682028 (OP)
sauce on the slut, OP?

>no hymen, no diamond
>mgtow
Pick one, roastie. Despite the shilling, most white men are not cuckolds that worship used up white pussy.

>>509682028 (OP)
>If you actually care about your people, your nation, or your future, then you get serious.
When have any of those things cared about me?

>>509682028 (OP)
lol, lmao
It's working and it has to get a lot worse before things get better.
45% of western women will be 30 and childless shortly.
There are still decent women. But you won't find them here
>dating FOB chinkette finance girl.

>>509686674
why not before 30? did you get too jealous of women ?

>>509691429
just dont do anal and those dont exist anon

Yeah, nah. I would sooner grip you by your eye sockets and smash your head to bits rather than even explain things to you. Hating women isnt even close to enough.

enjoy your divorce rape bro

send me an invite to the trial

I'll bring the popcorn

>>509693416
I didn't really get noticed by women that much until I turned 30. I have no idea why. I was told that guys in their 20s are still seen as "boys," but that's about all I've got in terms of explanations.

>>509693467
Your partially right. The issue is a lot of women have been fucking chad's and tyrones that are asymptomatic carriers (so they can infect but don't show signs/symptoms, Chad and Tyrone don't go to the Doctor unless he has a herp flare up or green shit leaking out). A lot of previously treatable STI's are now antibiotic resistant. It's so bad that 1/3 women you see walking around have a permanent STI now. So think on that, every 3rd woman you see walking around in public has chads herp or genital warts.. possible even untreatable gonorrhea/syphilis. Watch where you shove your dick anon's.

>>509693264
>45% of western women will be 30 and childless shortly.
Slightly less than half of 30 year old women have had a kid by they time they turn 30. By 45, about 80% of them will have had at least one kid. This isn't anything new, those statistics have been fairly steady for 20+ years.
The number of women having kids has decreased from its pre-birth control peaks, but that's because virtually all women had kids back then. A significant majority of women will have kids for the foreseeable future.

>>509682028 (OP)
>if you are afraid of women or convinced that none are worth the risk
men arent afraid of women, and men arent risking shit for women. men are afraid of the legal system and the risk of being a slave to a demonic cunt holding your children hostage.

>>509693977
you post this retarded shite in every thread now dont you. having one kid at 35 instead of three kids by 25 is not the same thing. kill yourself

>>509682028 (OP)

Who is this girl?

>>509693929
>It's so bad that 1/3 women you see walking around have a permanent STI now.
No, only about 20% of the population has an STI at any given moment, and most of them aren't permanent.
Also, that 20% is heavily skewed by the disproportionate rates of infection in the black and gay communities. It is significantly lower than that among straight White women.

>>509683471
Phone pictures are optimized for viewing on phones. I make big prints of pictures for framing, and a 15 year old shitty Canon point and shoot mini camera makes better prints than a supposed 51 mega pixel modern phone camera.

>>509682028 (OP)
>has turned into a blackpill echo chamber full of men who have given up on building families,
https://dl.depot.4d2.org/JjSS0lt1EigE.mp4

>>509694191
asking the right questions

>>509682028 (OP)
>One must marry a girl without inquiring whether she has engaged in sexual activity before or not.
ahahahhahahah
so all of this long post was ahout this...
ahahahha
a fekood hands wrote this
tits or gtfo

>>509682028 (OP)
>troll flag
>troll username
Quit wasting our time and yours.

>>509694092
>men arent afraid of women
Incel men like you are absolutely afraid of women, the real reason you never approach them is because you are weak and timid and having crippling social anxiety.
All of this shit about the legal system or getting divorced rape is just pure copium. You know that the reason you are a sad lonely adult virgin loser is because you never even try to get with women, but instead of facing the truth that you never even try because you are a big scared pussy, you lie to yourself and pretend that it's because you are afraid of legal consequences. It's bullshit, but it feels good because then it's not your own fucking fault.
>>509694139
>having one kid at 35 instead of three kids by 25 is not the same thing.
Irrelevant, you are just moving the goalposts.

>>509691509
What can I say? It was done by an iMat Q2_K 12B model on an Android phone lol.

>>509682028 (OP)
im not mgtow, im just dealing with the mental gymnastics women over here play. Saying you dont like me, then when i dont engage, all of a sudden im gay, lol nope not playing your stupid ass game, carry on

>>509682472
It's just low res you retard. Videos are just moving pictures. There isn't motion blur. Take a ss from 4k your nigger ass could only complain about posture

>>509690815
its gen x men, let their daughters run over them, it is what it is.

>>509682028 (OP)
>Just give in and accept a raw deal
No
If you really want more families, help change society instead of wagging your finger at those getting fucked over by it.

>>509682028 (OP)
Not worth reading, but the bitch is hot.

>>509694671
>All of this shit about the legal system or getting divorced rape is just pure copium.
you have mot read the family law, haven't you
yoy have not read the domestic abusr law, haven't you
do that, then come back

>>509694671
I am afraid of women, they can do tremendous damage to me by way of proxy violence.

>>509693883
hmm how do you get your fcuk buddys??

you sound clueless. so i assume they just come up to you at your job or send the first message on dating apps

>>509695087
>bitch is hot.
she has no tits
you faggot , man

>>509682028 (OP)
Artificial wombs are going to be the turning point. Some countries will ban them and others will become factories to make sons for fathers that have no time for women.

>>509695232
Pregnancy grows milkers.
Stop chasing MILFs you cuck!

>>509682028 (OP)
If this is the mentality of white nationalists them I'm just marrying a jeeta and defecting to the left. If the white race cannot offer any life satisfaction whatsoever to the men who fight for it then nobody is going to want to fight for it. It's that simple.

>>509684049
This. I can't explain why, but if I grow up in a society where casual sex is "objectification" etc when men do it but every woman gets to be a whore then foreign women just appeal to me more even if they themselves are whores. If I get to be a whore without moral confusion then I will happily marry a white whore. If I don't get to be a whore due to moral confusion then I will happily marry a white virgin. If I don't get to be a whore due to moral confusion and have no other choice but to marry a whore then non-white whores are more appealing than white whores. Maybe it's some kind of "if a child is not embraced by the village..." thing, but it feels very "visceral", it's not some kind of ideological thing.

>>509695187
Met at pubs and clubs, mate. I am not a chad by any means, but they just like me for some reason. Anyway, I'm never getting married, never tying myself down to any woman, just an interesting development as I got older.

>>509685875
>because you likely dont have much money and thats mostly what women in cities see
Women don't care about money at all until it's time to "settle". Money is the criteria used to evaluate beta providers, not lovers.

>>509682028 (OP)
blah blah blah
it's just fatalism

>>509682028 (OP)
Where are her braces? How am I supposed to get an erection if she doesn't have any braces?

>>509682028 (OP)
Don't care and still not gonna go fight your wars for you.

>>509695827
Unfathomably braced!

>>509696011

>>509686340
Red pill has no prescriptive components. All this guru shit is just grifters and this kind of stuff unironically does more to kill movements than "the other side". Same way the left was killed by the trannies etc on their own side, not by the right. The red pill is just a mentality of preferring discomfort over the bliss of ignorance. How you should respond to the uncomfortable truth is outside the purview of the red pill. Even leftists can be redpilled, although its rare due to their highly ideological nature.
>>509689272
Why is Chad never expected to not ruin these women in the first place?
>>509694998
It's ex-manwhores who partied away their 20s and early 30s and then started having a midlife crisis once they realized that their lifestyle destroyed society. Then they freak out and start hamfistedly demanding that everyone humiliate themselves by submitting to loveless marriages with all the nuance of the Israel lobby. I unironically see men like this as more "foreign" than the average chang etc. If these men cared about the white race or whatever they wouldn't have destroyed everyone else's chances at a fulfilling marriage with their manwhoring.

I don't give a fuck about "the white race", my nationalist attitudes are based around bloodlines, not "races", it's just that in most cases they are highly correlated and that racial death usually also means bloodline death. If I marry a jeeta or a chink then it's still my bloodline and I'm still prioritizing it above anyone else's.
>Hurr durr but it's not white!
And what's so great about being white if the only thing most white men have to look forward to is a loveless provider-marriage for some manwhore's leftovers? If that's what being white is all about then being white is a disease that I don't want to pass on to my children.

>>509682028 (OP)
If the west won't give me a virgin wife then the west deserves to die out.

I will celebrate as your family is killed by the thirdie hordes, you subhuman cuckold faggot.

>>509695232
It's not all about tits, retard

>>509696011
She looks actually doable with braces.

Usually she's ugly AF butterface.

Halfway decent body though for a woman in her 30s.

>509682028
>hat sentiment aligns with the concept of eugenics.
a race that doesn't practice eugenics will degenerate until it becomes worthless nigger tier shithole. eugenics are a good thing and should be practiced everywhere. genetically damaged people and family members should never reproduce, to avoid creating mentally deficient incest-spawned retards like you.

>>509682028 (OP)
>Hello I'm here to recontextualize your movement for you

>>509682028 (OP)
I was a virgin until I took the escort path. I am ok in terms of looks but I am an introvert and I have tough luck finding a girl in my league that has the same attraction feelings. I mostly date through apps but keep bumping into girls that are either mentally unstable or after 7 dates breaks up because she isn’t feeling it

When I go out I spend too much on alcohol and the girls there well I am too picky that’s the way I am, I may approach 2 girls and I might get a kiss or instagram from one but it never evolves into something more

Sorry but I don’t believe I should lower my standards so low to date and spend money just to fuck some girl that looks way worse than me.

Escorts are much more beautiful and in the end the sex is guaranteed not on some nth date but like right now

I don’t give a shit about being someone’s ego boost or having to approach 100 girls to get the one I like, I am not playing that game

When I want kids I will fly to South America and pick a more beautiful girl even if it’s a roastie but I won’t go for fat ugly European girls

>>509694374
Its 1/3 has a permanent infection and I got that info from a govt source when I worked in healthcare. I read a more recent one that said its closer to 1/2 now but am personally a bit more doubtful of that.

>>509694374
And I'm talking things like herpes and genital warts which are some of the most common women carry. Don't be a fool wrap your tool.

>>509697670
I fucked many escorts and each year I get tested so far nothing but I always wear a condom and refuse those who offer service without

>>509682028 (OP)
I think I know this girl. Source?

>>509697770
Nothing wrong with that. I used to fuck escorts before I met my chinkette. Just watch out the one way you can get it is you can get herp or genital warts on your balls.

>>509697423
how much and how often are you spending on escorts?whats one thinf escorts make you feel that your missing out on that can be viewed as a con?

>>509697862
I haven't for a couple years but the going rate in Canada was $200-$500/hour depending on the quality. A decent asian massage parlor tend to give you the best bang for your buck.

>>509686674
I'm 31 this year and dating as never been easier for me mainly 23 to 37 range

these niggas got no game

>>509697849
In shower before and after but prostitutes in Europe seem to take care of themselves as well

It’s not like masssage parlours or street hookers

>>509697862
I don’t go often maybe 2x a month tops

Spend around 400€

>>509697862
I did when I was military and I just didn't have time or energy for GF drama. When I retired I kept it up until I met a decent woman because the dating market now is so fucked. If you can afford it its worth it because you don't feel FOMO and it takes away the anxiety of rejection.

>>509697670
>herpes and genital warts
80%+ of LGBT have those
65-70% of blacks of even heterosexual flavor have those.
40-50% of Indians
25-40% of Hispanics
10% of Asian
Less than 5% of Whites, and mostly from those who have reported an interracial relationship.

>>509698119
Yeah bro you got game… dating at 31 when you should be married already… what a winner…

Don’t you see the west is done

My parents got married at 22 you know how many people today I know that married that young!? Zero

mgtow is just incels and a western phenomenom because young american men cannot get pussy