has Ukraine entered the phase of silent capitulation?

>>509724847 (OP)
No?
Russia lost most of the land they captured. They haven't made any advances in more than 2 years.
All Ukraine has to do is continue doing what they've been doing until Russia collapses.

>>509724991
>They haven't made any advances in more than 2 years.

>>509724847 (OP)
That shyster won't even sit at the negotiation table. He'll see Ukraine genocided and depopulated before giving an inch, chasing the personal golden myth ring of "total victory" over Russia, who hasn't even begun to bleed.

>>509724991
Ukraine sisters, we're back! Putimort is almost worn down! SLAVA UKRAIN!

>>509725073
>>They haven't made any advances in more than 2 years.
I mean they haven't lol look at the map.

>>509724847 (OP)
That'd be an improvement.
They should have begun negotiating their surrender over a year ago, any day they postpone it hurts them more and more.

As has become evident now that Trump's grace has expired for them.

>>509725092
As I was saying, Russia is sending men on golf cart to capture one cow field per day, only for most of them to get blown up by drones.

>>509725114
>Ukraines victories are getting closer to Poland and here’s why that’s a good thing

>>509725196
About that, the snail has reached Poland last October. It's probably getting close to Germany at this stage.
Meanwhile the mighty Stinky metropolis of Ukraine is still standing.

>>509724847 (OP)
He's basically a fucking dictator right? When are they going to hold elections again and get rid of this piece of shit?

>>509725196
> Ukraines victories are getting closer to Poland
???

>>509725261
In all honesty, how do you think this is going to end?

>>509725363
>When are they going to hold elections
We'll you know they have this thing called constitution. It might have some info on that.

>>509725489
Economic depression starts in Russia and they no longer can finance the war

>>509724847 (OP)
no one gives a fuck about 'kranda anymore, at best you have NAFOjeets like >>509724991 pretending everything is fine

>>509725568
this, just two more weeks

>>509725161
LOL Russia lost

>>509725161
Russia won't surrender until Putin falls out of a balcony.

The US/NATO propaganda has said from the beginning of the war that Ukraine has already won and that Russia has been destroyed. Ukraine said they would never stop until every bit of land including Crimea was recovered from Russian occupation. Capitulation or anything short of a total Ukrainian victory is defeat for Ukraine

Whatever happened to Ukraine taking back Crimea?

>>509725658
> 17 out of top 80 largest companies in Russia on brink of bankruptcy
Idea that Russia can spend infinite amount of money on military while squeezing private companies dry will have no effect on their economy is prime /chug/ thinking

>>509725568
Is that going to happen as long as we send Russia more money for oil and gas than we send Ukraine money in aid?
>>509725681
The western world seems to be under the impression that whoever replaces Putin will be a sort of malleable, one size fits all faceless prop. Like the kind of politicians we have been used to since the wall came down. If Putin goes whoever replaces him isn’t going to suddenly become a social-democrat, it’s going to be either someone from the military or intelligence services

All of this could have been prevented in the mid 1990s but Clinton and Major, then later Blair, had different ideas

>>509725556
>U.S. can hold elections in the midst of a massive civil war in which nearly half the country can't/won't participate (1864)
>Ukraine is just unable to, and thus Zelenskyy is leader indefinitely

lol

>>509725888
But they aren’t spending an infinite amount. They aren’t aiming to spend an infinite amount. It isn’t them who are reliant on infinity funding, but Ukraine is

They sell huge amounts of fuel to the world. We keep buying it. If you can figure out a way to stop buying their fuel and getting everyone to agree on that then their economy would collapse, but there isn’t such a solution. It’s fantasy land

>>509725953
Putin won't be replaced. He has solidified everything around himself. A random guy can't just jump into his shoes. Once he is gone, it's going to be Game of Thrones. And whoever ends up sitting on the iron throne won't have anywhere near as much power as he did.

>>509725888
so true sister, just two more weeks and it will be over

>>509724847 (OP)
>ukranny
>being silent
>ever

>>509726083
Putin just said on Camera that theyre having to massively cut funding on not only their military but everywhere and that they are out of their savings fund, and yet here you are pretending everything is OK.

>>509725953
> Is that going to happen as long as we send Russia more money for oil and gas than we send Ukraine money in aid?
You’re comparing wrong numbers. You should compare how much we sent money to Russia for oil and gas with how much they spend on military. When Russia has to strong arm banks to give MIC 400 billions dollars of near zero percent credits it doesn’t look good and even Russian economic forum reflected that. No economy growth, coal, oil, gas down, companies can’t pay out debt, wage debt tripled in single year, construction of new buildings almost stopped, Chinks are buying only cheap resources and don’t allow Russian companies on Chinese market

probably
though i think they'll do something amazingly retarded with their nuclear reactors

>>509726172
whoa, what the fuck was that thing

>>509725261
Cope. The frontlines are breaking and you know it, or maybe you dont. Check em.

>>509726277
this, we are two weeks away from the crimea endsieg, trust the plan

It’s so cute how dumb you guys are

>>509726343
>maybe the real frontlines breaking were the friends we made along the way

>>509726419
Except Russia was massively propped up by the US and Bongland.
The USA sent whole factories over there.

>>509726277
>all.this cope
Did you read this in the EU newsletter sourced.by kyiv independent and anne applebaum? Russia will eat grass with dirt and still advance on you with tanks. Yall dont know shit for fuck about how they operate.

>>509724847 (OP)
>silent
I wish. Hohols can't stop screeching

>>509726208
I don’t think it’s ok. You’ve somehow confused me saying “I don’t think they are going to completely fall apart” with something else. What you are advocating for is something you’ve claimed has been imminent for decades, but it’s never happened. Putin never got the cancer. His generals never ousted him. The oil money didn’t run out. The sanctions didn’t work

Western interest and investment in this has gone down the toilet

>>509726501
it's probably an ukroid in prague, we have a lof them here
one funny thing about ukrainian diaspora is that they all love Zelensky and repeat whatever he claims yet they refuse to go back under any circumstances

>>509726083
So you make it clear you have absolutely zero idea what you’re talking about.
Russia had four years of deficit because their oil and gas profits are not even close to how much they spent on military. Oh and Russia received 30% less money from oil and gas in 2025 than same period 2024, no wonder Putin had to reassure economists that they are slashing military budget in half next year, there’s nothing to pay for it

>>509726501
>cope
Which part is false?

>>509724847 (OP)
aren't you repeating the same thing for 4 years now?

>>509726599
Cancer wishful thinking was a meme
His generals ousting him would have been a rational response, but Putin is a well defended dictator that rarely leaves his bunker and divides power between his underlings and pits them against each other, it would never happen.

Oil money IS running out, its lower than it ever has been. Actually look this up kek.
The sanctions have been pretty harsh, which is why they're not using their Armata's and the like, because they no longer have access to the European parts to make them.

>>509726623
5 bucks says you're Russian

>>509726647
So this means the war will end as this happens?
>>509726804
>a russian military dictatorship would have been rational and preferable to putler

>>509724847 (OP)
has the media decided to phase out Ukraine? wars in africa get 2 weeks coverage and then, once all the Brits are out of the country, we don't hear about it again.
the media can just not focus on Ukraine and it can continue and the EU can send them money and it will drag on in stalemate.

>>509726343
Okay. I just checked. You’re full of shit. It’s okay, I’m adding your post to the collage of gay retards that insisted Ukraine is on the verge of collapse for years now

Considering nafoids won't even talk about Ukraine retaking the Donbas, let alone Crimea, yes. They're stuck on retaking <100 pop villages near Sumy.

>>509726892
It would have perhaps been more successful militarily kek

>>509726330
hey there smoothskin

>>509725556
So much for a functioning democracy....>>509725556

>>509724847 (OP)
Trump is preparing to level russia with new sanctions and just gave ukraine an insane amount of drone technologies.
people on /pol/ get all their info from tiktok and then wonder why this board hasn't been right about anything since covid.

Russia is NOT run by economic indicators like the United States.
In the US, a 2% difference in inflation can make you lose an election.
In Russia, a 2% difference in inflation is called a typical week.

If a stock index drops whatever percent, no one gives a shit except a bunch of oligarchs, who have a tendency to fall from high heights in recent years anyway.

So as long as Putin can keep the Russian population warm and fed, and the losses of the war under control, he can keep the war going for many more years, for the same reason Russian, and other countries, have been able to wage wars for many years, for centuries. The idea you go bankrupt after 36 months of war is absurd.

>>509727019
>Trump is preparing to level russia with new sanctions

It will be sanction package number 18.
And if it doesn't work, sanction package number 19 will definitely collapse Russia!

>>509725368
the front lines are moving westward, that's the joke

>>509727183
you immigrated to australia which is enough to see that life in russia is quite bad. sure, their existence gets worse and putin continues to enforce police state there, but that doesnt mean things are improving. and putin is old man, and most of the communist order are old men if not dead already. russia already had 1 coup attempt and that was at height of russian military industrial complex controlling society completely. and things just keep declining.

so you have aging leadership held together solely by military police state stuck in a forever war with no end in sight and you think this is going to produce stability? i think the leading castes of russia know that there is expiration date and they're trying to cash out while they still can.

>>509724847 (OP)
TZD will continue until humanity improves

>>509727100
>>509727183
>ran to australia
KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

total hohol death

>>509727388
most of the time, they are immigrants like >>509727399
they already checked out of russia, which they know has no future

>>509727434
I know
Thats the funny part
They ran from their homeland and attack Ukrainians for defending theirs
Its 100% pure projection of shame
IMAGINE HOHOLS BEING BETTER THAN YOU AHAHAHAHHAHA

>>509724847 (OP)
Not really. During the recent NATO summit they allowed part of each nations 5% spending goal to be support to Ukraine. As long as they are willing to fight they will get support. Question is how long the Russian economy can hold on. NATO is nowhere near an economic collapse whereas Russia is spending 7-8% of GDP on the war now. Unsure of how long that is sustainable.

>>509727388
This is just the polak flag (who is most likely a hohol who fled his country) projecting and making shit up.

Russians can't immigrate to Australia easily (it's unironically easier for Pajeets, since they are assumed to speak English fluently, and don't need to prove it).

>>509727617
kill yourself subhuman :)

how many more times is this going to be spammed on /pol/

>>509727556
>they allowed part of each nations 5% spending goal

They already failed to meet the 2% spending goal they have had for decades, but surely this time they will now reach the new 5% spending goal...

In reality nothing will change. Poland and the Baltics will probably reach 5%, buying US weapons, because they are already near that, and the rest will stay where they are, under or at 2%.
Spain straight away told them to fuck off, but in reality that's exactly what the French, the Italians, etc. are also thinking. Macron probably expects France to stay at 2% while everyone in Europe is spending 5% to buy overpriced French weapons...

>>509726172
What is wrong with Ukrainians?? These people are fucking subhuman, and they look like brown kikes.

>>509727783
>:)
After 3 years, nafotroons still cant blend in.

>>509725489
Kek, notice how the ""irishman"" scurried off when you asked him. He left his shill buddy to take that heat.

>>509724847 (OP)
>3 years
>nothing to show for it

>>509728289
yo, äsbästäck, nem tudom :)

>>509728370
Fick kinder allah

>>509724991
>>No?
Yes
>Russia lost most of the land they captured.
No
>They haven't made any advances in more than 2 years.
They have
>All Ukraine has to do is continue doing what they've been doing until Russia collapses.
In two weeks?

>>509726921
collage your tonguing my anus kek

>>509725568
Anywhere from thirteen to fifteen days is my estimate

>>509726724
That Russia goves a shit about economic indicators and that.its gonna affect the war effort.

I have not visited TЦК since 2019. Am I in trouble?

>>509727883
Europe has recived a lot of shocks under Trump. I think, and hope, they realize we need a military. Huge sums are allocated, time will tell.

>>509727883
>everyone in Europe is spending 5% to buy overpriced French weapons
Most of them are significantly cheaper than US equivalents and in most areas they're just as good. The US export arms industry only holds significant advantages in capability over everyone else in a few areas (two of the most notable ones being fighter jets and air defence systems), you can get the majority of what you need from European manufacturers for a fairly big discount compared to buying American and with no drop in effectiveness - and in some areas like armoured vehicles, you're probably getting a better product than the US is offering.

>>509728822
>just ignore economy, it can’t hurt you
/chug/ economist right there

>>509727242
But they aren’t in 2022 Ukraine won in Kyiv, Kherson, North Kharkiv and frontline never moved even close to that point.

>>509728822
Russia is all but immune to economic shocks right up until the people in Moscow and St. Petersburg decide that they've had enough of getting squeezed, then things get very uncomfortable very quickly. The Russian government doesn't give a single shit about the rural population and will happily trample all over them, but they try very hard to insulate the two major urban centres from the effects of the war because if their standard of living slips and they all get mad at the government it's very easy for things to spiral out of control.

>>509726208
when did he say that?

>>509724991
>we are winning

>>509728866
You're done.

>>509728866
>"пpocтo нe иди"
Why did so many not follow this simple advice?

>>509726484
USA basically relocated itself into USSR (spiritually) to defeat the the Nazis as an American victory (in media)

>>509727019
>sanctions
top kek

https://tvpworld.com/87596592/polish-police-bust-ukrainian-gang-kidnapping-african-migrants-for-organs/

>>509725556
USA held elections during both WW1, and 2 as well

>>509724847 (OP)
I say, to the last ukrainian!

>>509726419
kek dude russia was in top 3 european gdp growth, the other two were some shitholes I think malta and something else

>>509728606
>Fuck children allah
Just your average eastern european pedophile russia supporter

The important thing is that Russia is being gradually diminished as an economic and military power. What happens to Ukraine is secondary as long as young Russian men are being slaughtered.

>>509730052
Your favourite moustached mentally ill dictator (who died alone in his piss btw) said the ussr would have LOST without Americas help.
Biggest mistake ever anyone did.

>>509730448
Oh, did WW2 USA use the Ukrainian constitution of 2024? Fucking retard. BASIC schooling missing from your education.
Shame.

>>509729468
experts like this is why Russia will win this confrontation lmao
>trust me bro Russia is Mordor outside of SPb and Moscow!!11
>this is a very deep and realistic take!
nigger there’s literally a dozen of >1 million cities in Russia besides these two, and each is cleaner and whiter than Londonabad
this isn’t 1991, it’s 2025, and your civilization is collapsing and you’re getting replaced by Africans, jeets and their Muslim cousins

>>509724847 (OP)
I told Ukrainians not to trust the USA, or rely on it. We're a dead empire. Empires come and go. They do fall. If empires didn't fall, we would be wearing tunics in the Roman Senate.
Instead, I was called a KGB agent and a zigger, so whatever. Enjoy your shit.

>>509729038
Houve been kvetchong about yhe Russian economh for 4 years and ha e been stupidly wrong every increment of 2 weeks. In fact, youve been worse of ever since and its getting even worse. Chug a bottle of cowpiss jeet

>>509724847 (OP)
i hate that jew president. putin needs to kill him

Silent ?
This dude is screetching at whole world why everyone doesnt pay hohols lmao

>>509729958
Guess I shall follow it

>>509731174
So why are you hiding in the ass of Europe instead of going back to russia?

>>509731174
Ah yes, the proud Russian patriot who swears down that Russia is such an excellent wonderful amazing place to live... and doesn't live there.

>>509731057
Cope its not, quite the opposite actually.

>>509731410
We should give patriots to gaza so i can sleep

>>509730986
You sound a lot like a filthy tschusch yourself, Ahmadovic from Bosnia.

>>509731057
retard, only losers in this was is ukraine and europe

>>509731567
>It's the opposite
Russian men are being resurrected from dead?

>>509731703
Maybe you're right, maybe dead young Russian men is a win for Russia

It was very clear from the first year of the war that they could never win it, and that they would have to give up land to end it.

The only thing they've achieved by dragging it for this long is to lose hundreds of thousands of men.
This is probably a win since it's a country run by jews and their goal to begin with was to kill as many Whites as possible.

>>509731322
You read like a fagget

>>509731852
europe will pump ukraine full of indians once the meme war ends anyway, native hruks are pretty much irrelevant in the long run
at least the poo-in-loos might be smarter and don't let a jew lead them to their doom

>>509731774
>Maybe you're right, maybe dead young Russian men is a win for Russia
both Ukrainians and Russians are Russians.
And both are dying - which is a tragedy.

But.
And this is what is being said now by Baltic states: the biggest threat to the west is a Russian victory, because that would cause the Ukrainian army to unite with the Russian army after Kyiv's capitulation.
And guess what? They're right. In the grand scheme of things, this war is about unification. Once the Russian 1.5 million army reunites with Ukraine's supposed 1 million army.
And then UK's 74k army will defeat them gloriously.

>>509731882
U lost tranny

>>509731932
>because that would cause the Ukrainian army to unite with the Russian army after Kyiv's capitulation
honestly I doubt this, almost every single hrukoid you see is a fanatical zog retard, they will probably form their own ISIS and start suicide bombing everyone who they deem denied them their "western utopia"

>>509731932
>the biggest threat to the west is a Russian victory, because that would cause the Ukrainian army to unite with the Russian army after Kyiv's capitulation
This is just Ukrainian fearmongering to keep the funding going. They've been saying this for over two years now.

>>509731721
Your commonwealth is crumbling.

>>509732018
>almost every single hrukoid you see is a fanatical zog retard
who spends his entire lifetime on /pol/
you're right, there's no way to prevent the unification of two armies at this point

>>509731919
>at least the poo-in-loos might be smarter
pffftt... HAHAHAHAHA

>>509732097
They certainly won't be dying for the Ukraine or Europe

>>509731932
More vatnik cope horseshit. The Ukrainian army would never unite with russhits, everyone knows that death is a better alternative than being forced to become russian.

>>509726996
fallout is real in hoholistan

>>509724847 (OP)
>silent capitulation?
to whom?
the NYFed? they still owe their bonds to Blackrock
to putin?
to whom OP are they capitulating?
is this just a slide thread?

>>509724847 (OP)
How so?

>>509724847 (OP)
>>509724991

Silent capitulation ?
They entered the phase of losing village after village and city after city,
and phase of constantly hiding underground from drones and rockets.

Country 404 lost Odessa, Sumy, and Kiev is under 24x7 bombings.

>>509733039
Ukraine doesn't exist , they have the same DNA mix as russians.
Ukrainian language also doesn't exist, it is a village russian dialect.

>>509733267
Black Rock already realized they will get nothing, as hohols lost yet another formerly russian mining region that Russia took back.

>>509725363
Not until after the war, he has said. Most likely, it's the u.s. and england saying it, really.. democracy? What's that, again? Even fucking lincoln allowed people to vote during the civil war.

>>509725363
He has suspended elections, rival parties, and free media for the duration of the war

>>509725556
Constitution? So what?

>>509733474
but you don't get it, he signed a paper that says he gets to do whatever he wants, that's true democracy

>>509733469
which region is that?

>>509733393
Russia doesn't exist. Its real name is Muscowia and the temporarily occupied territories.

>>509724847 (OP)
Literally who?

>>509726172
Damn depressing, if you ask me. Imagine being that dude without a nose..

>>509731932
>both Ukrainians and Russians are Russians.
Don't care
>And both are dying - which is a tragedy.
Lol not for me

>>509731696
Nah, wars Poly lustig?

>>509733648
Rare, how many whales did u get this year

>>509726996
The irrational will to live, no matter what happens or which circumstances one has to live in for the rest of one's life, can often be pretty overwhelming..

>>509727100
>The idea you go bankrupt after 36 months of war is absurd
It's not absurd if you can't pay for it.

>>509724847 (OP)
Total Zigger Death
Total Zigger Drone Torture

>>509724847 (OP)
Genuine question, why is /pol so beholden to Putin/Russia?
>less white than any European country
>dogshit economy smaller than Texas despite having endless resources
>failing horribly in war against far weaker foe and has to do picrel out of desperation
>get years in prison for denying holocaust
Putin is a dogshit leader... why is he constantly shilled here.. am i missing something?

>>509727556
>NATO is nowhere near an economic collapse
You say that, but people's paychecks say otherwise. If this shit continues, seriously dark days lie ahead for the europeans' future. Because the first problem is the liberal politics europe has had since the end of ww2, it's not suited to reality, it's an utopian wishfull thinking-tier politics that just isn't logical or realistic, with its' insane focus on faggots and feminist whores and kikes and nigger worship and endless immigration. Second, are the birthrates, they are a direct result of my former point. That, and the globalization of labour, of course. You can't have a life if your evil boss cruelly fires you for being a tad too slow for his liking or you're a bit late once too many, can you? And the poligicians expect men to hop up and die for this shit? Really? The truth is that europe can draft a hundred percent of the population on paper and have 99 percent war-spending, but i highly doubt a whole lot of europeans are going to obey those laws...

>>509727100
>The idea you go bankrupt after 36 months of war is absurd.
lol update pic rel to $231 B

>>509728930
Ze germans have always known how to make ze güt tanks.

>>509724847 (OP)
>has Ukraine entered the phase of silent capitulation?

It's gone on long enough. Ukraine should just give up the lands with russians in, and crimea, and stop throwing men into a meat grinder.

>>509731410
Lawl. What a fucking parasitic neet, haha!

>>509731932
Lol fuck off, the ukies aren't going to fucking fight for russia after what putin has just put them through. And besides, 1 million strong ukie army? Really? I'm pretty sure they don't have that many men, if you ask me.. and what happened to the prior million? All dead already, or what?

>>509733039
LOL
This faggot is seething

>>509725591
>Nafojeets
Anon, Russia and India are geopolitically aligned.
Are you on crack.

>>509734535
That won't stop russia, they will continue to advance until they have all of Ukraine.

>>509733808
A couple of hundred is what we usually catch. Haven't kept up on how many people have caught this year.

>>509734274
Paid shills
No seriously.

>>509729468
Like the UK gives a fuck about anyone who isnt brown.
You should worry more about your own shithole, troon shill

>>509727883
You're not Australian.

>>509734776
Its over troon shill
Cope harder

>>509734319
Also, the healthcare system. Forgot about that one. People might eventually have to decide between that and war. And will people still fight when their granny dies from some stupid bullshit that could have been prevented in better times?

>>509724847 (OP)
I actually feel bad for hohols. Imagine good proportion of men are already dead, brain drain, left is either old people or retards that can't go to millitary. Nato just assraped this guy, and throw him away like cheap whore. All the EU countries must understand that US is paper tiger and nation of cowards. Soon they will be raped and destroyed by mighty Russian BVLLS

>>509725489
russian bankruptcy, just like it did in afghanistan and then the USSR dissolved.

>>509734831
Based

>>509725556
hey, did they even say thank you?

>>509725179
Cute, is that what they're saying on your tranny discord?

>>509729958
ИЛЮХA ЖOПИЧ ПИДAPOК!!
ИЖП! ИЖП! ИЖП!

>>509726043
They can't have an election, at least not a fair one, because any candidate that wants to end the war would win. Can't have that.

>>509734938
Days without zigger thinking about dicks and trannies: 0

>>509734274
they are all russians or indians behind VPNs, its not even putin being shilled but just generic pro russian messaging that is detached from reality.

>>509735447
But you are obviously a delusional faggot so theres a good chance you wear womens clothes.
Ukraine lost
Cope and seethe

>>509724991
I'm gonna let the bear to maul me.
It eventually tries itself out.

>>509724991
Gr8 b8 m8 i r8 8/8

>>509735627
>>509734841
Ah, makes sense.

>>509725196
Sides....btfo

>>509726804
Rarely leaves his bunker?

>>509725556
>We'll you know they have this thing called constitution. It might have some info on that.
It says parliamentary elections are suspended but it says nothing about presidential elections.