This is why zommer chicks dig an older man, we can fix shit

OP never touched a tit.

>>509743843 (OP)
You know how is that called, op? Having money. This is why I pay dirty tradies such as yourself to do my repairs.

auto repair is just swapping parts, you don't rebuild a starter or a transmission because its expensive and labor intensive so you just buy a new unit. also manufacturers knowingly seal modules and spec components for only just beyond warranty life because of planned obsolescence

>>509743843 (OP)
Honestly most people can't work on modern cars even actual mechanics. They've locked the down so much to force compliance.
>Take your car to our dealerships goy!
I did work on my brother in laws new Honda and it was a massive pain in the ass, not so much the parts but the codes I needed after simply removing the battery.

>>509745218
modern cars are v6 trash anyway, zoomer chicks dig older men and older cars

>>509745847
I think everyone with a brain prefers older cars but people still buy these new plastic pieces of shit. I stick with used cars now, can't see a reason not to.

>>509745847
v6? more like literal 3 bangers in the ford bronco retard...

>>509745847
older men gave king nigger all the older cars for a small check and king nigger turned them into aluminum cubes

>>509746464
man you youngins are pathetic, cant fix cars, cant talk to women, and use the n word too

>>509745847
Buddy, they're turbo I4. You don't even know how bad things really are.

>>509747051
retard in fact most companies these days offer some type of 3-banger with a turbo strapped to the top so your head gaskets are certain to not make it past 120k miles

>>509743843 (OP)
No one can fix modern cars, not even mechanics.
Older fixable cars are going for as much as new ones because of this.

I don't understand why no car manufacturer is at least offering a cheap fully mechanical car with no / as few electronics as possible with a focus on reliability and repairability.
So many people would throw themselves at that.

>>509744927
This is retarded. There are a couple of factors at play here
>1. there are some things you can do yourself very easily that save money and hassle. For example why would I pay $1000 to have someone replace a hub/bearing, make an appointment, not have the car for two days, etc etc. When I could just knock it out myself after work in an hour?
>2. If you understand vehicles you can diagnose alot of problems yourself so you dont get ripped off like a woman at a mechanic. There are alot of things it is better to pay someone to do, but if you dont know shit about cars, you are at the mechanic's mercy. Everytime I take a car to a mechanic I tell them- "I think it is xyz" but let me know what you think. If they can tell you know what you are talking about they are 100% less likely to fuck you.
>3. Modern vehicles are basically money pits. Everything is more expensive to fix and many things require a dealership to fix your average mechanic doesnt want to try and couldn't even if yiu paid them enough. This means it is good to own an older car and IF you own an older car it will eat parts but if you can replace some small stuff yourself ot will be worthwhile. If you have to pay a mechanic everytime you have to replace a crank sensor, o2 sensor, wheel bearing, sway bar link, etc. etc. an old car won't be worth the advantages it provides.

>>509748229
Americans can fix anything, outta here with your defeatist commie bullshit

>>509748229
If someone slightly upgraded the gmt400 k1500 and put a factory carb'd 383 long-block with a 700r4 with a secondary cooler, a better ABS system, and an upgraded front end I'd pay 40k for it. Throw in a backup cam too.

CAFE and EU 1-6 will never let this happen though.

modern cars have an enormous amount of electronics so the use of a scan tool is almost essential for diagnosis. there are some brands, mainly german, where you can't even change the brake pads without commanding the piston to release via a scan tool
either you really are a boomer driving a 1995 pickup, or you simply don't know shit about shit

>>509747752
bmw recommends oil changes every 10k miles. this is so the motor blows up like a year after the warranty expires

>>509748805
lol my brother is a mechanic. "Fixing" moderb cars means replacing whole "modules" instead parts because everything is integrated and it always runs you 5k minimum.

>>509743843 (OP)
>women are whores
imagine my shock

>>509743843 (OP)
Nobody can fix modern cars anon.
You need a diagnostic computer, software licenses, subscription to their parts services.

I just swapped out my brake pads and rotors yesterday, got damn near 10 years out of the old ones, they were ground down to absolutely nothing

>>509748229
>I don't understand why no car manufacturer is at least offering a cheap fully mechanical car with no / as few electronics as possible with a focus on reliability and repairability.


The people who want this don't buy enough new cars to make it sustainable

>>509749544
never speak of women like this again, we clear?

>>509749490
the worst offender for this is volkswagen. all the electronic sophistication of a porsche with the stripped down, cheapest most flimsy plastic parts to keep the car "cheap". then down the line you need to replace the AC compressor and it costs more than the car is worth

>>509743843 (OP)
Mechanical cars will be obsolete for the average person soon. They'll have enormous luxury taxes that maintaining an old car will become a hobby for rich people instead of a rite of passage.

>>509749613
>The people who want this don't buy enough new cars to make it sustainable
Ever thought about /why/ they don’t buy new cars?

>>509749441
>10k mile oil change service recommendation by bmw
source on that, also if you driving a bmw in 2025 you get what you deserve
>>509749589
whats crazy is on some of the newer vehicles do require a computer just to do brake pads.

>>509749723
>cars are le dead
the supply chain that depends on 18 wheelers isn't going anywhere.

Have you popped the hood on a "modern" car these days? Manufactures are putting so much shit on top of the engine that you have to access even the most basic shit from underneath the car. The manufacturers have gone with design principle that only they should be able to fix/modify your car at one of their approved/accredited repair locations. They have build them so that it is incredibly hard/inconvenient to try an fix shit yourself. It's borderline usury at this point.

So why would you be surprised that zoomers or millennials even can't fix their own vehicles? Unless your driving a car made before 2010 your going to have a pain in the as time trying to get access to shit.

>>509749279
Electronics are not a bad thing. The first gen OBDII cars were great far superior to reading little blinking lights on the forst gen kek.

The basic sensor suite they had was very helpful. The speed sensors, oxygen, cam and crank sensors etc. made the vehicles run better. The diagnostics were extremely helpful. The problem is that as time went on the sensor suite grew and grew and the pcms became more and more complex. The issue today with modern cars isnt sensors. Tge issue is that you are trying to squeeze too much power out of small displacement via a turbo charger (added point of failure). Second, you have added multiple timing systems, belts, bearings, etc. onto the vehicle with VVT and VCT. Third you have forced the engine to breathe its own refuse air when it wants cool clean air more than anything via EGR systems. Third DOHC is simply inferior from a repairability and simplicity standpoint. Fourth you have space-age looking ten speed auto transmissions that are impossible to rebuild.

You add those things together and you get a hunk of absolute junk that is impossible to work on and has so many points of catastrophic failure that they are no longer remotely worth the cost.

>>509743843 (OP)
Boomers can't fix computers

I can't fix a car.
I could build an engine from the ground up, but I have no experience with just a regular car.

>>509743843 (OP)
old man that can fix shit - ok
old man that breaks all their shit and then fixes it? Fucking fabulous.

Zoomers need to learn to man

>>509749832
>source
https://f30.bimmerpost.com/forums/showthread.php?t=868293
>BMW has changed its long time recommended oil change mileage intervals for all 2014 models and beyond. The changes apply to all vehicles produced from July 2013 on.
>Previously, BMW recommended a 15,000 mile / 24 month Condition Based Service interval, but as of July 2013, the new basic interval will be every 10,000 miles / 12 months. This applies to both gasoline and diesel models.

>>509743843 (OP)
Its only this generation where we've ever seen this phenomenon. Genzs are loser so much so that their women go for older men. This is the first time we're ever seeing this trend!

>>509743843 (OP)
Nobody can work on cars build after 2005, you apply the diagnostic unit and replace half the engine or need special tools and $1800 spare part to change the front light.

>>509744927
Let me guess you have a job LMFAO. Do you think wealthy people work?

stuff isnt made to be fixed. moreover, its made to not be fixed. replacing a battery in a samsung phone is something that you need to buy parts and read instructions on. and buying a decent battery is hard because samsung cut their license agreement with the one company that made replacement batteries, so now all you get is cheap garbage

>>509749613
Litterally every male I know that drives a car hates modern electronic shitboxes and is on a constant lookout for something at least pre 2015 in good condition.

The first manufacturer to make something like I described will take over the market.

>>509749912
>Fourth you have space-age looking ten speed auto transmissions that are impossible to rebuild.
dual clutch automatic transmissions are simpler in many respects than the older automatic transmissions. but yeah, an automatic transmission is a complicated 3d jigsaw puzzle you put together wrong and it'll blow up

>>509750025
>10k or when the ECU triggers oil change light
but! if someone truly waits 10k miles to change their oil. theyre the reason we dont deserve anything nice.
>>509743843 (OP)
zommers dont want old style cars, they want drivable sensory pods.

>>509750075
I'd say motors went to shit in 2013 when LS was abandoned Even late LS had active fuel management though.

>>509744927
>make an appointment for a repair
>take a full day off to get your car fixed
>pay a ridiculous amount of money for the repair
>repairman replaces the wrong part
>rinse and repeat

>>509749901
roit. thats all intentional eh. official parts, official service. Just another way consumers are tax cattle

>>509743843 (OP)
They struggle opening a can of beans

>>509750194
People forget that transmission rebuilders used to be a thing kek. Your transmission blows up? No big deal send it off and have it rebuild better than the original for 2k. Good luck with that shit today it's laughable.

Repairability IS reliability. Ultimately engines and transmissions are long-term consumables.

>>509749912
This guys fixes cars.

OBDII is fucking great. Tells you exactly what is wrong.

My car started running rough at Idle. Got home, pugged in OBDII reader ($15) and it told me I was getting a misfire on cylinder 5. I ordered a spark plug ($15) + ignition coil ($80) on rockauto that got to my house in 2 days. Replaced the coil and voila car is good as new.

Without OBD, I would have to check all the VVT solenoids, cycle each ignition coild to determine what is wrong (PITA in most cars).

>>509743843 (OP)
We definitely know how to work on cars. Your statement would be more accurate if you said "urbanites and suburbanites can't fix cars".

>>509743843 (OP)
My zoomer nephew is at a special hs to become a mechanic. He'll be a senior next year and he's already got a job at a local shop for the summer making $18/hr. Plus he's already been accepted into a college under a scholarship program to continue his trade studies in the aviation sector.
Now I just hope he doesn't mess this whole thing up by getting into any trouble with drugs and alcohol. I talk to him about it all the time. Hope he listens.

>>509750468
most people here are crying about electronic cars but would scratch their head at how fuel delivery works in the most basic carburetor

>>509748229
Fleet vehicles like the Chevy express van

>>509750468
I hit mine once a week and read diagnostics. I've got things to fix that arent even serious enough to get a code kek.
>that MAP looks a little low at idle whether its throwing a code or not.

>>509743843 (OP)
I've heard Zoomers don't even want to drive cars and they're the generation with the lowest number who have obtained driver licenses.
I recharged the refrigerant in my older car the other day. Cost $40 for the hose and R-134 refrigerant without leak stopper. Probably would have cost at least $150 taking it to a repair shop.
I just don't have many car problems.
In the past I've repaired a window that someone smashed and replaced a window power lift motor.

>>509750292
>but! if someone truly waits 10k miles to change their oil. theyre the reason we dont deserve anything nice
BMW creates a trap for people. they offer "free" oil changes at their facility every 10k, but if the customer gets oil changes somewhere else in the meantime it voids their warranty. so if they want oil changes every 5k they need to come in to the BMW deal and pay the exorbitant price of a BMW oil change.
>inb4 they won't know if you get it changed somewhere else
they do know. they have an additive they can test for. Mercedes does something similar and with warranty claims they'll ship your motor back to germany to test it

>>509745052
>has never spent the better part of the morning chasing a broken wire

>>509748229
You dont make money making reliable cars that last decades

>>509750451
on the plus side for today's automatic transmissions is 95% of the issues are electronic. so repairing your transmission is as simple as opening up the valve body and replacing a part there rather than actually getting inside it.
CVT's, on the other hand, have a nasty habit of blowing up and they just replace the whole unit

Blue collar boomer cope is next level. No girl gives a shit about you changing your own oil or mowing your own lawn. In fact, they assume you’re just too poor to pay someone else to do it.

>>509745218
I'm surprised how tight security is on cars. It doesn't seem like many have been hacked or modified.
I remember a few years ago there would be a monthly story about a Tesla being hacked. Just about every story turned out to be someone who already owned the car and had to jump through a bunch of hoops to do something.

>>509749986
Women feel wet when they see a man fixing shit, keep laughing but its the truth

>>509746895
You sound like a fat loser who unknowingly wasted his life raising another mans kids

>>509750989
Uhhhm, sweetie, Toyota is calling...

>>509751344
Toyota is a joke these days. Turbos, EGR, VVT, etc. you name it. One of the worst offenders actually.

>>509751083
yes they do pal, a real man who works and sweats gets em going

>>509751226
A step-dad is a man who stepped up.

>>509751083
>>509751516
A real woman would revel in the fact you're holding back a likely migrant from their livelihood by doing your own work.

>>509749585
>You need a diagnostic computer, software licenses, subscription to their parts services.
Good thing you can buy a pirated/reverse engineered copy on AliExpress for $20. Star and Xentry are great for repairing my car. It even tells you which tools and part numbers you need before starting the job.

>>509751226
I raised two daughters who shoot guns, fix cars and watch football, jealous peirre?

>>509748229
This, you are wasting your time with euro 6 cars they are not built to last even 100,000km

Some Euro 5s are okay, if you have a diesel you gotta remove the DPF though

Euro 4 cars (pre-2009) are the last generation of reliable carsa built to last

t. in the business

>>509751471
>Toyota is a joke these days. Turbos, EGR, VVT
Wait until you find out they have started putting PPF (Petrol particular filter) on newer petrol cars. Now one of the worst inventions for diesel cars has made it's way to petrol. Buy a good 20 year old car while you still can and take care of it.

>>509751924
>they are not built to last even 100,000km

I see claims that everything doesn't last like it used to, I think most people don't take good care of anything they own.

>>509752828
Lifespan is not the primary issue. Cost to replace/rebuild is the primary issue. Like I said, a good vehicle will have multiple engines/transmissions on a frame through its life.

Even an engine that is taken care of will eventually die.

>>509752828
it's partially that cars are now designed by teams of engineers that have no clue about real world mechanics and come up with dumb shit that looks cool on paper, wet belts are an excellent example of this
It's partially that there's so much anti pollution devices shoved in there that the engine is choking under its own weight
It's partially all the computerisation of even the most basic features, all built in China and not built to last even down to the wires

>>509753231
Alot of it is CAFE and EU 1-6.

However it doesnt explain everything. What does emissions standards have to do with headlight assemblies costing 3k a piece?

>>509751748
based department is calling, H1Bs on suicide watch

>>509753231
yeah the turbos and other shit don't help either. i'm happy with my two cars: 2012 fj, 2003 m3. i do almost all the work and expect to keep these running for a long assed time.

i'll get a used camry or something for my kid

>>509745052
>you don't rebuild a starter or a transmission
Yes, I do, but I understand what you're saying.

>>509743843 (OP)
modern cars are made so that self service is a pain in the ass

so zoomers create jobs

>>509744727
a man who can fix a car has touched a tit, guaranteed

>>509743843 (OP)
It's funny that you think most zoomers can even afford to have a car, let alone understand how to repair them

>>509754504
this nigga rebuilds starters lol

>>509744727
what skills do you have?

>>509751831
But you didn't raise them to be good wives? Bet they're as big as whores as Peterson's daughter.

>>509743843 (OP)
Nobody can fix modern cars

>>509744927
sometimes i wish shit would hit the fan so people like you would get knocked down to earth where you belong

>>509755639
by nobody you mean only niggers cant?

>>509755515
Lmfao

I'm 32 and I never learned how to ride a bike

>>509757777
chekt
30 here and same

>>509743843 (OP)
Yeah, this is surprisingly true. I can talk about working on my car, or chainsawing down a tree, or fixing a friggin' sink - subjects that I NEVER would have brought up, twenty years ago - and these young broads lap it up. I'm also guessing severe absentee-father issues, but that's not my problem. At least they produced smoking-hot daughters.