Did you know that the amount of nuclear waste generated by all 94 nuclear reactors in 60 years in the United States could fit in a single football field and there would still be space left for more waste?

>>509744036 (OP)
toxic waste is not nuclear waste

Solar panels don’t blow up and turn you into a homicidal mutant

Er muh gerd, Bats produce more toxic waste than nuclear reactors! We should have nuclear meltdowns because bats exist you guys.

Nice, let's fill up Arrowhead

>>509744379
Hey KC bro how's life? I hate niggers.

>>509744261
Neither do nuclear reactors, dip shit. Solar panels just make more waste, less energy, and poison drinking water. Anyone who thinks large scale solar farms are clean energy, especially over nuclear, needs a brick to the head.

>>509744374
Wow you're dumb as fuck. No one said that. Besides, you can recycle nuclear waste as fuel for the reactor. You're a fucking retard. This is all easily searchable.

>>509744234
>nuclear waste
More like more unspent fuel for future use. You nimby retards who don't understand nuclear energy or radiation need to be lynched

>>509744374
Stupid people are going to believe whatever pithy, pat basedience fact they can repeat at parties. The more anti-narrative the better.

>>509744624
>needs a brick to the head
>>509744751
>need to be lynched
Team nuclear confirmed to be nuckle dragging afro americans. Loses battle of wit, becomes violent.

>Twitter screenshot
>literal who
>a study found

vatniks are pathetic

>>509744036 (OP)
Nuclear "waste" is easily reusable. Only a small fraction of the U-235 undergoes fission. Had the rat jew John Kerry and others not shut down the Intergral Fast Reactor program, we would have reactors today that use the same fuel for the life of the reactor, removing the fuel only to reprocess it into new fuel. This reactor design also proved to be meltdown proof. They demonstrated that the design could not melt down in the case of a loss of on-site power. As the core's heat increased, reactivity plunged and the reactor passively went into a shutdown state. We're spending hundreds of billions of dollars on solar panels made in China that only produce intermittent power, cover tens of thousands of acres of farmland, easily get destroyed in severe weather, and we will end up paying hundreds of billions of dollars to dispose of when the panels are EOL.

>>509744954
>hot rocks scare me mommy so we can't have the safest cleanest energy available
Yeah your arguments are really sound. Nigger.

>>509744234
Toxic Waste is just a new subdivision in India

>>509744261
>>509744234
When did /pol/ get so full of leftoid retards? Jesus fucking Christ.

90% of a solar panel can be recycled. In 30 to 50 years, that number will be 99%
$100 for a shitty backyard panel and its already put out over 100kwh in the time i have had it. thats a pretty good return on investment
also dont start pretending like you give a shit about the enviornment now lol you just want to own da libz

>>509744751
We could recycle over 90% of spent nuclear fuel. We don't do it because it invites risks to an already risky type of energy production.
You can unfuck polluted soil from solar panel manufacture but you can't unfuck nuclear contamination, Chernobyl and Fukushima are still no-go zones for habitation and will remain so for hundreds of years.

>>509744374
>er muh gerd
>you guys
kill yourself you absolutely transparent reddit faggot
you are not welcome here

>>509744036 (OP)

Also waste can soon be a thing of the past as the newer version of plants that have been invented use the old waste. When its used up you can mix the old stuff with the new stuff like trying to put the last bit of the bar of soap on the new one. This way the waste can be used until full evaporation leaving nothing behind to deal with.

>>509744751
+1

Hey, watch this
Watch me mindbreak all these seething morons:

I think we should support nuclear energy generation in Iran.

>>509745327
>let me pick the two most retarded examples I can
Now name how many times America has destroyed an environment due to nuclear energy.
>muh three mile Island
Oh no people got a chest xray worth of radiation in the residential vicinity.
I'm sorry the soviet retardation lead to your radiation. And the Japanese are just as retarded for building their plant on a shoreline known for tsunamis and put their back up generators underground where they were sure to be flooded.
>we don't recycle cause it's risky
Tell me that when the SMRs come online here.

>>509744036 (OP)
Thank god. I sold off all my solar shit this morning, every fag expert over the weekend was hoping it would go up. A fun thing about the trump stock market, just to the opposite of whatever the experts say.

>>509745325
Dolar panels can be recycled but the cost is so high that it will never be financially viable. Some day Callifornia will mandate that they be recycled and the cost will make EOL solar panels a massive financial liability.

>>509744954
Learn to spell "knuckle" and I'd take your empty ascertain with a little more seriousness.
>this thing that is safer, more energy, and less polluting is bad! No I won't say why! Haha! Another battle of wits won!
Lol. Lmfao, even. You're a faggot retard nigger.

>>509745998
Retardation lead to your retardation*
>Phone posting

>>509745327
>We could recycle over 90% of spent nuclear fuel. We don't do it because it invites risks to an already risky type of energy production.
We don't do it specifically so we can bomb brown countries like yours with the waste produced.

>You can unfuck polluted soil from solar panel manufacture
No you really can't just plant a bunch of mycelium on a field of silicone

>but you can't unfuck nuclear contamination
It unfucks itself by virtue of how it works. Also you can dump it in the ocean because water isn't radiatable

>Wait what? You can't irradiate water? So why-
because of retards like you, yes.

>>509745998
The most obvious examples of what can go wrong with nuclear power plants aren't retarded because you don't like them.
It doesn't matter how efficient nuclear power is, you will never remove the unfuckable meltdown scenario from people's minds.

>>509746375
Pot, meet kettle.
Calm down Juan you'll be having your own meltdowns in a few generations.

>>509745274
During COVID and the 2020 election theft.

>>509746560
Why did the reactor at chernobyl fail?
Why did the reactor at Fukushima fail?
Thank God I live in a country that understands how nuclear energy works. It's why my state is an energy exporter.

>>509744261
>blow up and turn you into a homicidal mutant
What movie is this from?

How is covering up land green?

>>509745111
If fission reactors are able to produce energy for nearly free without meltdowns then you need a global restructuring of the economy. The supply and demand meme needs to end. Along with markets, consumerism, and so on. There needs to be outright eugenics programs and whomever controls energy will in effect control everything, just as oil does right now. Nearly everything is pegged to the price of oil, the purpose of the free market was to create markets dependent on oil. If there was a viable alternative the entire system will be forced to restructure and the people who run development projects don't want to risk nuclear engineers unionizing, so I imagine they want to scrap socialism completely and find more effective ways to automate before introducing viable alternatives to oil.

>>509746776
Hyman error.
Human error.
No you don't. You are the satanist hellhole behind the radium girls, castle bravo, SL-1 and a dozen close calls involving nuclear reactors. It's only a matter of time until engineer La Creatura causes a meltdown on a large reactor.

>>509746776
apparently kikes did a ddos on Fukushima for revenge in not supporting Israel at the UN.

>>509746724
>Pot, meet kettle.
No mushrooms love radiation. You know what they don't like? Electric scry mirror materials.

>>509746776
>why did it fail
Why are other energy sources too big to fail? Why are we still driving cars when there are a billion indians out there proving how dangerous petrol is?

>>509744036 (OP)
I wish I could own a mini nuclear reactor so i would be capable of living Offgrid.

>>509744036 (OP)
Yes. Nuclear power is the most safe and effective energy solution.

>>509747704
>human error
You mean soviet lies about their reactor design to their own nuclear enginers? Funny way to put it
>human error
You mean ignoring calls to change your plant design despite updated projections on tsunamis? Odd way to put it
>let me bring up examples from 100 years ago
Sweet argument!
>SL-1
Wow you mean that time when they fucked up and three people died. You have more people die outside your door every day for no gains scientifically.
I do love how you have to reach back to the infancy of nuclear power to pull out something you think is a glimmer of an argument
>close calls
Oh no our engineers know what to do and have reactors that can be scrammed without exploding the whole thing

>>509748056
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3GYg7Y_W7s

It will be possible in the future. They used to use these small generators in soviet union that power areas without electricity.

>>509748809
You created 2 orphan sources this year alone. Of all kike slaves you deserve what's coming the most.

>>509749481
>orphan sources
Rich coming from a hue

>>509748809
In regards to updating Fukushima for tsunamis, it's not exactly as simple as laying some extra concrete. The backup generators that drowned and eventually led to the meltdown were 20 feet above sea level. The tsunami reached a peak of 40-50 feet above sea level at Fukushima, or double the height. Politicians will drag their feet on a project like that because the costs are astronomical. A key part of projects like reactors is risk vs cost analysis, and it was likely determined that the frequency of 50ft tsunamis and 8.0 earthquakes was low enough to not be worth the insane costs that building the reactor to withstand those incidents would bring. Easy to look back in hindsight and say they were wrong because it wound up happening, but prior to 2013, how many earthquakes and tsunamis of that scale had occurred? All that said though, nuclear energy is still absolutely our best and cleanest source of power generation, especially when coupled with kinetic energy storage facilities to help cover daily changes in load on the power grid.

>>509749481
>You created 2 orphan sources this year alone.
Because stupid faggots like you won't let us throw it in the ocean where it belongs.

>>509749570
Not really. You killed more people with defective radiotherapy equipment than our Cesium orphan source incident.
You are on borrowed time Pablo.

>>509744234
Yeah. With current technology, nuclear waste is 90% recyclable.

>>509744036 (OP)
I wouldn't want to be standing within 5 miles of that football field.
Solar panel materials can be recycled, as can electronics.

>>509746206
You miss the point. The energy cost of recycling panels greatly offsets the production cost. The only reason they're allowed is that technology has been steadily progressing. Another breakthrough and you might have a couple factories just making these for the whole world

>>509744374
Nuclear is extremely safe. Just because USSR/Russians are retards that built a shit system and have constant submarine reactor mishaps, and the Japs forced to build on an earthquake and tsunami zone, doesn't make it unsafe. There hasn't been a nuclear reactor meltdown or major problems in a Western built and operated reactor in half a century.

>>509749899
You VILL not throw radioactive materials in ze ocean

>>509747562
That’s a bizarre leap in logic.

>>509744261
more important then that, solar panels become your property and you can't be disconnect from them for posting the wrong thing online.

>>509744624
Difference is I can have solar panels in my own home and live off grid with some batteries. Nuclear proponents just want more centralization because of LE HECKIN SCIENCE and LE TRUST LE EXPERTS, fuck off with your daddy government.

>>509744036 (OP)
>Did you know that the amount of nuclear waste generated by all 94 nuclear reactors in 60 years in the United States could fit in a single football field and there would still be space left for more waste?
Yes, and it'll be a Big Beautiful Field where we can play many Fantastic Footbal Games and hold 4th of July picnics as children go around digging for Easter Bunny Eggs.

>>509746776
>It's why my state is an energy exporter.
IL or SC?

>>509751241
Solar is fine for individuals, it's shit for an entire grid, hence why i said "large scale solar farms". Nuclear is great for a grid. I have said these things. Read better, Paco.

>>509752478
Yes it's bad to make use of all the solar energy in states that are mostly all empty deserts.

We instead need to build golf courses and water parks in those deserts.

Have you seen Chernobyl? You want something like that run by nuggets? That's why nuclear is impossible.

>>509752968
Right because deserts are complety empty. Literally nothing out there i. The desert. No insects, no animals, no birds, no snakes, no plants or trees. Just a huge empty swath of land waitig for us to pave over with millions of panels.

>>509744036 (OP)
What we need more than ever are working thorium reactors. The chinks supposedly already have one there's no excuse the US shouldn't either. Even if it's a meme we should have one as a proof of concept.

>>509744036 (OP)
>>509751333

I've seen people process solar panels to recover the elements.
So it's toxic waste but salvageable in the sense thst it's just economy holding it back.

>>509744234
Chemical waste is in fact, worse.
>3-mile island is still habitable
>Love Canal is not

>>509752968
I hate to be the “logical fallacy” faggot but you so blatantly ignored what he wrote and strawmanned up some nonsense about completely barren deserts that now I’m wondering if you’re jewish. You really have no argument against nuclear other than “green energy (tm) good”?

>>509745325
>I created mouse nuts worth of energy with my ali express solar panel
>surely this technology can run manufacturing and infrastructure with no scaling issues

>>509744036 (OP)
Wind turbine blades can not be recycled with a similar life span, so that's even more waste

>>509744234
yeah, let's spread that toxic waste all over our fair land, instead of just the concentrated areas for recyclable nuclear waste

>>509746560
>you will never remove the unfuckable meltdown scenario from people's minds
Was it real in your mind rabbi?

>>509744234
>>509744036 (OP)
both creations of white people.
we didn't have this problem when brown people weren't inventing.

thanks white people, like always, you've destroyed everything you've touched.
thank you children of satan.

>>509750421
as can radioactive waste, can you read?

>>509745325
>In 30 to 50 years, that number will be 99%
Based upon what exactly?
The main pitfalls of renewables, which existed over 25 years ago when this push started in earnest; still exist to this very day with zero improvement; arguably it's now worse with the mass adoption. They have not gone away as was claimed despite trillions of investment.

>>509746884
Toxic avenger? I think anon whooshed a lot of zoomies

>>509745274
>love canal
Niagara Falls is just like that.
If anything it made those people smarter.

>>509744036 (OP)
>"average"
Now do made in china lifespan, five years at best? Die in 25 degree heat?

>>509756594
It wasn't so much against nuclear energy, but the fact that solar energy is actually useful when you have the proper climate/geography.

>>509744036 (OP)
Just fire the waste into space. Problem solved

>>509757150
Idk.
Why don't you move to Chernobyl. I'm sure you won't get cancer in 6-8 years.

>>509744036 (OP)
Crazy how nuclear power is cleaner and more efficient than literally every other option, but we choose cheap and easy band-aid solutions that will inevitably cause more problems later on.

>>509744261
>>509744234
its about who you are polluting. Nuclear pollutes the people who own the plant while solar pollutes the people making the panels.

>>509744036 (OP)
>Toxic
>Lead and Cadmium
Throw it in the crucible and make something new with it.

>>509744036 (OP)
Of course the nuclear energy safer and less polluting.

But ask yourself the question.
Are you trusting in the third world savages to operate a nuclear facility?
We can clearly saw what happened in Chernobyl with the retarded commies and how almost destroyed half of Europe.

Now Imagine Abdul,spics and the nogs in the main control room,how large scale devastation can they made.

>>509744036 (OP)
Its just glass

>>509744036 (OP)
Could we put that football field into the middle of Tel Aviv?

>>509746375
>We don't do it specifically so we can bomb brown countries like yours with the waste produced.
You’re silly. You can use depleted uranium bullets OR use alchemy to transform this into nukes. Which do you think is best at bombing nations?

For bullets just use tungsten/osmium if you really need armor piercing that much

>>509747274
>How is covering up land green?
Human made solar panel extract more solar energy than natural plants. Solar panel + battery is a lot more efficient than crop + biofuel refining

>>509758818
Fair enough. It definitely has its use in small scale or end user applications but the shear amount of land that is destroyed both in the mining and in the creation of solar fields makes it a problem if you at all care about preserving wild spaces.

>>509745327
Why would traveling wave reactors be unsafe

>>509759098
Tell that to the people who still live there and the massive number of animals that have reclaimed the exclusion zone. Of course you only care about the stigma against nuclear and not the truth about it.

>>509762793
Depleted uranium can’t be used for a bomb. It’s the byproduct of weapons grade uranium manufacturing

>>509762890
Yeah but one is plants, you nigger

>>509763588
>these retards are doing it so why won't you
People aren't going to repopulate the exclusion zone. Not in our lifetimes nor the next 20 or so. Nobody wants to dance with cancer or the luck of finding a hot fragment in their yard or wall.
You're free to take your whole family to live there any time anon.

>>509752968
That's not even close to what I said. Besides, the deserts have life in them that shouldn't be disrupted for polluting junk that isn't efficient. Landscape also matters. So far every "green energy" alternative to nuclear is total shit and much more polluting that nuclear could be.

>>509759098
I'm also sure he won't have cancer considering there's wildlife there and apparently people in the exclusion zone. You're a retard.

>>509757231
based

>>509763695
>Depleted uranium can’t be used for a bomb.
It can
French technology, superphoenix, look it up, destroyed by g*rman EU mandate

>>509763704
Best for energy density is any sort of liquid petroleum, unless you’re going full on nuclear reactor
Batteries are horrible energy density wise and hydrogen isn’t much better and it’s much more dangerous

>>509764981
There are no long term studies on the wildlife there and the dogs don't last long enough to manifest DNA damage.
Go live there then mr.smartass.

remember Chernobyl goy never again!

Nuclear would put gas and oil out of business. Its superior in every way. Fusion too. The energy industry giants would like to exhaust their existing stakes before renewable takes over

>>509744234
You're right, toxic waste is many times worse, because it's bound to end up in the air and water one way or another. Nuclear stays comfy in concrete forever.

>>509766457
Why would I go live there? I'm fine here. Also, nice goal post move.
>nothing lives there!
>okay stuff lives there but there hasn't been studies on it
>why don't YOU go live there?
Why don't you learn rhetoric? Or better yet, learn to research your stuff before you say stupid shit. This is the internet. You're posting on the internet. Know what else is on the internet? Information about nuclear power, modern day chernobyl, and the live in the exclusion zone.

Fucking hell, you are stupid.