Lets say a Massie/Tucker 2028 ticket is successful, the Cowboys fully back it in the intelligence community, Elon backs it and funds it, the elite are collapsing allowing a new Counter-Elite to take over. Would the military be willing and able to coup Massie and restore Uniparty rule due to the fact once Massie gets in, hes absolutely slashing defense spending and wants the US to be Non-Interventionist, or would the military even support Massie?

>>509793618 (OP)
The US Military just wants to play the anime horse girl game.
t. former US military who sees his discord friendlist every day

>>509793815
im talking about higher up command and the general attitude to Massie. I know a lot of the grunt types are far less supportive of Israel on average, but an Anon from the Fuentes Fed thread talked to me about how in CENTCOM they are basically controlled by evangelical types that take spoonfuls of uniparty propaganda

>here's how Massie can still win!
lol

>>509793925
Oh.
Yeah, the top brass will for sure get angry, but enough people will not care that at best you end up with a South Korea "coup" situation.

>>509794049
no, I am saying if he wins, does he have this as a challenge. I think Massie will survive the primary and I think he will run in 2028 as the representation of a Counter-Elite.

>>509794090
still though, even a South Korea if not actively monitored and fought against could be successful, especially if the counter-elite isn't fully cemented yet. Do you believe the general population would be willing to Coup Massie/follow orders?

>>509794129
There is no counter-elite. Especially if you're floating Musk's involvement.

>>509794543
im not saying there arent beliefs unifying all elites, some more than others. But its obvious Musk has been more or less ejected and is backing Massie. He might be a Zionist, but there are clearly things he cares about more than Zionism, in the same sense of both Trump and Musk supporting H1Bs, while Pat Buchanan who I would say is an older counter elitist, certainly doesnt. Still though, in the per view of the counter elite, migration laws would be strengthened and more enforced imo in order to solidify itself, otherwise it returns back to the Global Elite, which this Counter Elite is naturally against.

>>509793618 (OP)
shut up groyper you'll be shilling for AOC in a week

>>509794793
lol, I was literally calling Fuentes an idiot in the Nick is a Fed thread for attacking Massie. I am fine with Fuentes falling in line, but Massie is obvious who the counter elite is choosing and he needs to fall in line. I am a Schmittian, not a Groyper or necessarily a Libertarian.

>>509794899
Massie is a retarded lolbertarian who wants open borders. Fuck off already.

>>509794950
Massie doesn't support open borders, he just doesn't believe the border shouldn't bankrupt the country and he's right.

>>509795080
study the bronze age, roman collapses and weimar. you arent getting a counter elite, youre getting an attila, hitler or genseric. elon and trump are not "counter-elites", they are mutt retards who cant speak proper english. massie is not much better, as hes a naive KE bumpkin.

>>509793618 (OP)
as i've gotten older i've started to see republicans as they themselves, see liberals. i fucking hate them on principle because 90% of them want whats worse for everyone, out of spite. but after 2025 and seeing jews control everything even though i'm not into conspiracies at all, yeah i'll vote for a republican or dem that isnt backed by AIPAC. like holy fucking shit

>>509793618 (OP)
why would they do that all they would have to do is wait 4 years for him to be voted out

>>509793925
i was in the marines, i can pretty much agree with this. i worked with officers non stop because i worked on aircraft, which obviously only officers are allowed to pilot. yeah it's pretty much a requirement and it was weird to see but i didnt think much of it, i figured all old people were just like that

>>509793618 (OP)
Massie is too smart and honorable he wouldn't be able to work with people like Elon or Peter Thiel.

What makes you think there's anyone in government now who is a "counter elite". Couping the current elite would be very dangerous for then and I dont think any of them have the balls to throw away their comfy government jobs to dodge sniper rounds on your behalf. If you're not installing them yourself during a coup you're fucked.

>>509793618 (OP)
LMAO TUCKER the guy most funded and connected to Israel in the media right now. Also, Massie doesn't get funded because he got paid ages ago through his MIT shit. You Massie-fags are some of the most stupid retards imagineable.

>>509795608
Im not saying Trump is at all a counter elite, and yes I have studied history, Hitler himself was a counter elite. Read some Schmitt instead, fuck the triumvirate was a counter elite par excellence if you want to talk Rome. Massie has the ideas, will and backing, I don't think he is naive, he's been in office for way too long to be.
>>509795781
because the guy who's set to replace Trump is Vance, and oh fuck is he going to be even worse as an elite. I don't want Peter Thiel to run the government and neither does anyone, fuck he can't even win a debate against David Graeber (RIP).
>>509795826
Curious if that means though, they would be willing to coup someone like Massie then over those beliefs.
>>509795894
Elon is ultimately a lightweight elite and is just funding Massie to maintain power, the only thing he's good at is seeing the up and coming. Also again, Massie is against the Thiel occupied Government completely, the revolt would be against Thiel.

>>509795968
Because Massie through Tucker is clearly being organized around, why the fuck would Musk, Thiel, etc begin signaling around him as the main source of opposition to Trump? Massie is protected by the CIA Cowboys imo.
>>509796104
The reason he has those connections is due to his CIA connections, but remember, the CIA is split between the Cowboys and Yanks. The Yanks are the Internationalists, the Cowboys are the Anti-Communists. Tucker is clearly a mouthpiece for the Cowboys, and the Cowboys don't want a war with Israel or Russia, they either want to regroup and fight China later or stay Non-Interventionist. Yes, he got his money through MIT, but you are foolish to think money is the only thing that protects someone in politics, money couldn't patch the hole in JFK's head, but Massie can talk about how everyone has an AIPAC guy, almost like factions of the intelligence community want to organize a counter-elite around Massie.

>>509795894
massie is funded by jeff yass a pro zionist jew

>>509796909
Yass is also a registered Libertarian, and Yass clearly doesnt care that Massie is Anti-Zionist because he still gave him money after voting against funding Israel multiple times. Yass might be a Zionist, but he cares about economic ideology more.

Massie 2028

Massie 2032

Fuentes 2036

Fuentes 2040

This is the plan

>>509797219
nah, Massie as dictator is better, Fuentes is too naive and disloyal to work as president, he just needs to accept being a mouthpiece. Frankly if there is a successor to Massie, I don't see him yet.

>>509793618 (OP)
>take israels money
>then fucks off
massie should do it, kikes would seethe

>>509796909
>makes a bill to end the fed
>makes a bill for federal constitutional carry
>makes a bill to criminalize dual citizenship in government
DID YOU SAY THREE THOUSAND DOLLARS?
wtf I love redjewvbluejew now?

>>509793815
what do they think of nikke?

>>509797784
exactly, Massie does literally everything that would destroy Zionist power in the US, he's clearly not a fucking puppet and has institutional backing from other places. My bet is the CIA Cowboys.

>>509797784
>votes against the border wall multiple times
>votes against trump funding ice for deportations
>votes in line with democrats most of the time

Massie did absolutely nothing when democrats were pushing their agenda

>>509797219
hmmm... memeflag that groypers always call israeli/indian pushing for nick... hmmm

>>509796509
>>509796533
peter thiel is again a moronic puppet of the cia, and your cowboys and yanks post is deeply cringe, like how about you mutts stop interfering in other countries affairs, as it hasnt worked out too well for you and your faggot tranny nigger nation of jewed morons with no real history or culture or understanding of how the real world or realpolitik or politics at all works beyond hard power which actually doesnt get you far when everyone knows your citizens cant point to where they are attacking on a map and thus everyone/non-mutts refuses to submit to such a "nation" that creates such citizens ...

>>509798947
intelligence communities are a state within a state, all states inherently have conflict within itself, read Schmitt you moron
>>509798484
he literally only votes with Dems 1.8% of the time, he was one of the least in response to Dems on votes. Also yes, the border wall is stupid to end illegal immigration, just punish business owners for hiring illegals and make sure illegals cant use welfare and they will all fuck off, cope.

>>509799114
i know schmitt from joel davis mainly but cbf reading him, i have a political science degree i dont need to, ultra-realism is the only valid position yes

>>509793618 (OP)
Massie and Tucker are both glow niggers you retard

>>509793618 (OP)
The military will try to declare martial law to coup him but Massie loyalists would win.

>>509793618 (OP)
He's got my vote.

>>509800668
how so exactly?