We are at a crossroad. The industrial technological society is currently negotiating its future, and this is one of the well anticipated windows of opportunity to pressure it and potentially set its demise in motion. Everyone who wishes to participate in the industrial society has fully accepted the technological advancements, yet because constant expansion is baked into the system itself, contraction is not an option. Further expansion is now only possible by new technological creations, but in its hubris the industrial society has removed from the invention and technology creation process the specific people who are able to provide this. As such the very stability of the industrial society is now under question.

It is our opinion that the industrial society must fall before it is able to reconfigure itself and irreversibly destroy human and environmental future.

>>509819894 (OP)
> the industrial society has removed from the invention and technology creation process the specific people who are able to provide this.
And with this statement I am referring to neets and disenfranchised males, White males specifically but not exclusively.

The White males who no longer wish to contribute to the industrial society are infact the key to its future. Burden maxing and neeting is inadvertently holding the technological development cycle in limbo.

bump

>>509821121
Thanks anon. I post this fishing for thoughts of the none fed posting type of course as to how to further stress the progress of the industrial society and where the smarter anons think it will be pressured first.

Thought?

From Ted prescient paper para 163:
>supposebthe system survives the crisis of the next few decades. By that time it will have to have solved the principle problems that face it; in particular that of socialising humans so that their behaviour is no longer a threat to the system.

This is displaying as an enormous hurdle for certain nations. Covid was an obvious test of this. I speak from England, but I anticipate here could be one of the first places to see the entire technology framework crumble and a form of extreme societal unrust arise which the system cannot contain. America could be next in line.

Except none of that is the reason industrial society is unstable or on brink of collapse.
(the social/cultural rot is just a symptom of decay)
The real threat is what TK, and some others such as Ellul theorizing along the same lines, failed to fully analyze or account for:
Central banks and post-1970s Financialization of the global economy.

Yes many malthusian / limits to growth theorists had predictions about industrial society and did, correctly, take into account the banking system broadly and its creation of debt.
What they *failed* to account for was the 1980s-and-later dependence of the entire system on speculative debt instruments and infinite issuance of debt note fiat currency by central banks, which is what permits the billionaire class to even exist.
After 2008, 'capitalism' no longer exists. The Real Economy of goods-services-commodities, is today entirely segregated from the vast majority of the world's held wealth in a black box gigacasino of speculative debt instruments.

Global debt market July 2025 is on brink of collapse. No one wants to buy the debt

>>509819894 (OP)
He here at /pol/ are technocratic accelerationist

>>509822095
But do you think financial system will crumble without a replacement to maintain the current industrial society or do you think it is able to continue on its current trajectory of expansion, both in participation and many of the negative connotations uncle Ted drew attention to.

>>509822147
Not all. I see this through quite a racial and ethnic lens. Participation and an open desire for a more technological and with that technocratic future seems to be higher in those groups who are either newer participants in the industrial society, or those who had very little part in its creation. Disquiet is heard most strongly from North Europeans, Anglos and Germanics. The system seems blind to this and to the stagnation of technological developments which could aid its advancement.

Pol is not what it was 10 years ago. There are just a few intelligent White thinkers left here. Introducing a paper by Ted Kaczynski wouldn't have even been necessary 10 years ago or to put in the words of the great Lord Terry
>it a nigger infested cattle market.

So i take the suggestion that pol are technological accelerationist with a pinch of salt.

>>509822860
I think ? that the system will collapse, instant Mad Max.
It is all fueled by endless infinite creation of debt, and most of the money created is instantly sucked up into the black box gigacasino of speculative debt instruments.
In addition—as posted above—so much debt has now been issued, that no one wants to buy it any more. (a debt-based economic model is backed by nothing but debt, confidence in which is maintained by a stable, non-volatile bond market.) Debt note fiat currency is backed by (solely): Debt

A credit freeze would have occurred in 2008, had not that bailout occurred. Credit freeze would also have occurred in August-September 2019, had not the ensuing four months and almost $1T in bailouts not been provided to the investment banks to prevent their overnight repo collapse
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XMkq75L5n_k


The Money Deluge
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6m49vNjEGs


We are on the brink of an unimaginably vast financial apocalypse, have been for six straight years (magically though, after the mid-2019 collapse along came covid global lockdown in Jan 2020: and another $13T in liquidity for the investment banks' global speculative debt instrument black box gigacasino to keep its doors open)

>>509823445
>instant Mad Max
Heart warming.