Simple question /pol/, are they underpaid?
>junior doctor is basically US intern
>average basic salary is 26k bongbucks

>>509843879 (OP)
Yes. I have medical license in the UK but I still prefer to work in Poland because I get to work flexible hours and the income tax isn't 45% lol

>>509843879 (OP)
Can I selfbumb?

>>509844410
sry was waiting the countdown (again) and didn't see your post. Couple of questions
Did you train or work in the UK and is it just the high tax that makes the pay shit?

>>509843879 (OP)
No wonder all your docs are coming over here, they'd be on the equivalent of 3X that as juniors.

What the fuck is your government spending all it's money on?

>>509844751
>What the fuck is your government spending all it's money on?
Good question anon. It is pretty common for doctors her eto move to aus for the pay. I've visited your prison island and things are about twice as expensive so the real difference is about 1.5 times. Still substantial. The other difference is tho that you have to pay for private insurance? So there's more money than the straight up free NHS.

>>509844751
>What the fuck is your government spending all it's money on?
Pakis and Niggers.
Plus they can import foreign healthcare workers that will work for cheaper.

>>509845212
>Plus they can import foreign healthcare workers that will work for cheaper.
Here's your pediatrician bro.

>>509843879 (OP)
They're a government position, the government can just pay them more but they won't because where else are they going to go in the UK? This is one more reason why I don't want the US government to control my healthcare. Public Defenders are shit, why would Public Doctors be any better? They'll just move to where they get paid more, or start a private practice.

>>509845212
>Plus they can import foreign healthcare workers that will work for cheaper.
True and retarded. But the other part of this is gatekeeping by higher ups in the NHS that limit the amount of med school and specialty Registrar places available.

>>509844751
>>509845120
>>509845212
>all money siphoned off to fund the free-everything for third world immigrants
>£15 for a highly trained professional in what was a well respected field
>all locals leave for more civilised places where they're treated with respect
>third worlder flood medical system
reminder that third worlders are not up to the same qualification level as an English doctor, medical licenses are not the same the world over, nor is the education required to have one.
second reminder is that empathy and identification with the patient is one of the most important factors for decent treatment. third worlders want us all dead.

>>509845471
One video that perfectly represents the current situation in the west.

>>509845750
Sucks that you left the EU, otherwise you could have just easily moved to another EU country and worked there.

>>509844634
So until like 2023 as an EU citizen you weren't even required to write a medical license exam in the UK, all you had to do was pass an English exam (ISLETS) and you were registered with the GMC as a junior doctor. So that's what I did, I skipped foundation 1 and did the one year of F1 and got my full license. I thought about starting specialty training, GP because in pretty every other country it's 4+ years while in the UK it only takes 3. But I decided against it for other reasons.
Yeah its primarily the taxes but that mainly applies to specialists that rake in 120k+ annually. Although the 40% tax bracket from what I recall is from 35-40k so it isn't that much better either. There are ways around it but it's just a pain.

>>509845485
You can work privately in the UK. Most NHS GPs do as a side gig.
>medical licenses are not the same the world over
You're not wrong tho doctors from outside the EU or Switzerland have to complete two aptitude tests before working for NHS or getting a medical loisence. One english test and one medical exam.

>>509846270
F2**

>>509845120
>I've visited your prison island and things are about twice as expensive
Nah on average our big cities (melb/syd/bris) are a fair bit cheaper to live in than London, lots of stats on it. You will earn more, your money will go further and your house will be bigger.

>The other difference is tho that you have to pay for private insurance?
Yes and no, we have a public system that is free same as you guys (ergo tax payer funded), but we also have private places if cunts want to pay out of pocket for that as well for top tier care and it's super flexible. You can pick and choose different things between the two. Wages aren't significantly higher in the private sector and most of your healthcare workers go into public because they offer big cash sign up bonuses and I *think* it's easier visa wise and bigger cash bonuses again if they go to a rural area.

>>509845212
>>509845750
Just how bad is the shitskin welfare situation? Over here they're not entitled to shit, they've got to work for X number of years before they get access to any welfare. But I guess we have different immigrant problems, ours are all "legal", but i'm guessing you've just got a fuck ton of illegal ones who have floated over on boats who don't work?

>>509846270
So you essentially came here to skip a year of med school? Or had you considered moving over here full time?
as an aside you'd now be on 20% tax at 50k. Then National insurance on top which is almost another 10%
How much you making and paying in tax back in polan?

>>509846571
>You will earn more, your money will go further and your house will be bigger.
I was talking more about groceries fags and booze. Day to day stuff. Tho my sisters rent in aus is almost double mine, tho she has a bigger house.
>Yes and no, we have a public system
I thought you had to pay something towards any treatment or visit to the doctor so most people have insurance to cover this?
>Just how bad is the shitskin welfare situation?
Not that anon but newcomers, however they got here, get free care. Exception is some tourists.

>>509847176
Nope, you have to complete med school and have your diploma in order to apply for the GMC. I already did one year of internship in Poland so I was permitted to omit F1 and go straight to F2.
Yup I was originally planning to move to the UK full time, I still have my license just in case.

I make around 6 thousand ish pounds a month at the moment, and that's without a specialty still. I work when I want and for how long I want, they even pay my rent so I'm more than satisfied. As for taxes I write off a portion for my "company expenses" so it varies from month to month.

>>509846571
In other European countries, there's a complex system where people have to work for a certain amount of time within a certain period as well as an initial period in order to have a diminishing quantity of government assistance, often based on a ratio of how much they were earning.
In England, it's:
>enter country legally or illegally - preferably the latter
>free gibs for life
>free gibs for your extended family which you import the next week
>free prioritised housing, food, clothes, phone, pets if they don't eat them - but no proof required they exist, free transport, free education, free health care, free training, and priority for work positions - if they even want them.
the amount of fraud is enough to change the GDP of the countries they come from, no joke.
England's been and is being bled dry from leeches.
The government doesn't have many procedures to even look for fraud, despite the non-fraudulent leeches already living for free.
There have been isolated articles, where paki families are pulling in 200k a year on benefits.
Some, far more than that. There was a romanian scam set that was uncovered - by romanian officials after they noticed a ton of suddenly very wealthy romaninans returning to their country and building mansions. The romanian officials then notified the English authorities who'd been utterly oblivious to it all. It was hundreds of non-existent people that this group of romanians had listed for benefits, then they'd just taken all of it and made millions upon millions.
England is a test-bed for all the worst things they want to trial on a closed, island population, to see what the public will endure or not, before they release the same measures on the rest of the civilised world 5-10-15 years after.

>>509848721
Sounds comfy anon. How does it work as a patient in Poland? Do you need insurance?

>>509849530
It is, that's why I'm not in a hurry to move anywhere :)
Public healthcare is free for the most part in Poland. I work in a private clinic though which isn't subsized by the government so most of our patients pay out of pocket. Which usually amounts to 70ish pounds for a 15 minute visit.

>>509850837
Are you native Polish?

>>509850960
Yup

>>509848721
>I was originally planning to move to the UK full time
and then you saw the state of it?

>>509850997
good, was afraid you'd be some pajeet malpracticioner

>>509850837
>Public healthcare is free for the most part in Poland
If you've worked both can you go a bit into the differences. AFAIK the only things you pay for in NHS are prescriptions, dental and elective surgeries. Everything else (GP visit, follow up consultancy, surgery and aftercare) is 100% free to all people living in the UK.