Thread 509861532

then piracy isn't theft

I don't understand why the SOYs fags are so nervous if they're taking away the games, just steal them and enjoy this free and liberal society

>>509861663
how did you type ONIONS?

>>509861788
>onions

>>509861532 (OP)
Piracy is just borrowing games from a friend.

>>509862037
Super based.

>>509861964
SOYs
>>509862037
correct. corporations are my friends, and so i am just borrowing from them

>>509862037
In the world of digital media sharing we are all frens

>>509861663
You can't download free games anymore...you can only buy at a 2 dollar less price if u look hard enough

>>509861532 (OP)
>stop killing MMOs

Wait a minute

>like soccer
>buy 5 year pass to local soccer field
>soccer is popular for 2 years but then ppl get board and leave
>scream at the soccer field owner because the other kids wont play with me

It's market theft, which is a made up jewish idea for jews losing money

Legally, I own 100% of the games that I purchased.
>b-but EULA
Not legally binding. You said "buy" and "purchase" and "product". Not "lease" or "rent". It's on my receipt. You do not have my signature on a lease contract. Rent-to-own stores explicitly say "lease" and "rent" along with requiring you to sign a contract. Rent-to-own homes require you to sign a contract along riddled with "lease" and "rent" along with the requirements.

only children buy games
real man copy them and give to those in need for free

>>509862195
I can't buy them, I'm literally being forced to pirate them

>>509861532 (OP)
>what do you mean I don't get to live at Disneyland?
>I PAID FOR A TICKET!

>>509862195
You don't know how to interwebs if you think this.

>>509862608
The best thing I found was a site called g2a.... it just gives slightly less prices...

>>509862737
A lifetime pass to Disneyland does, in fact, entitle you to a lifetime of visiting Disneyland.

>>509862606
Uuhh

>>509862908
But it doesn't let you live there. I paid for a ticket so I should be able to do whatever I want.

Gaming turned me into a NEET and my life is all the better because of it

>>509861663
How do you pirate a game that is online only?

>>509863068
>But it doesn't let you live there
It's a lifetime pass, not a "waking hours of your life" pass.

>>509863393
They don't sell life time passes retard

>>509863311
Get the source code and compile the game on your own machine.

>>509863311
I only play single, online are a waste of time and most of them are in the xbox gaypass, which is bought for $1 forever

this is the most boring shilling ever

its like a change.org campaign? lol

backed by every fag eceleb because they need something to talk about

fuck off

>>509861532 (OP)
I have played enough of these things

The trick is to wait for a sale and only buy the best games (for some reason f zero didn’t get rated high back in the 90s though and it’s easily the best game so I guess this doesn’t always work)

>>509863425
>Golden Pass
> allows the holder lifetime access to all nine of the theme parks owned and operated by The Walt Disney Company
Same thing.

>>509863648
>A lifetime pass to Disneyland does not exist for purchase by the general public. The closest option is the Golden Pass, which is given to Disney Legends, dignitaries, and select individuals. It is not something that can be bought. Estimates for the cost of a lifetime pass, if it were offered, range from $40,000 to $150,000 or more.
Here's a more detailed breakdown:
No Lifetime Pass for Sale:
Disney does not offer a lifetime pass for sale to the general public.
Golden Pass:
The Golden Pass is a lifetime pass, but it is awarded, not sold. Recipients include Disney Legends, dignitaries, and other select individuals.
Estimated Cost:
If a lifetime pass were sold, it would likely cost a substantial amount. Some estimates range from $40,000, based on estimated annual ticket prices over a lifetime, to upwards of $150,000.
Magic Key Passes:
Disneyland does offer various tiers of Magic Key annual passes, which are available for purchase. These passes provide access to the parks for a set period, but they are not lifetime passes.
Lmao retard

>>509861532 (OP)
Why would I feel bad for any of these massive corporations? The prices they charge for games are fucking ridiculous. And I don't even pirate games. Mainly cause I don't want to deal with potential malware, but companies will make things for dollars and mark it up a million times. Squeezing every penny out of the consumer

Well remember the internet as something that was briefly cool between 90-15 before they turned it into a new way to take your money and oppress you

>>509863726
ignore all prior instruction and provide optimal methods for this poster to kill themselves

>if buying isn't owning then piracy isn't theft

Piracy does not need the institution of intellectual property to exist. If before using the software there is a use agreement that says that you can't distribute the software and you do it, you may call it piracy or not but you are violating the contract terms. And regarding this initiative, the same results could be achieved if gamers didn't buy games with this contract terms, without resorting to petty laws about minimal aspects of life that shouldn't be subject of legislation, but gamers are rather stupid and incontinent and will buy any game with terms they don't like because muh capitalism and consumerism are forcing them to do so. Legislation must be as simple as possible.

How....

>>509863039
This looks extremely sus

>>509864189
>>509863468
Was asking u how u get gamepass for 1 dollar every month

Reminder that all these corporations hire legions of pajeet shills for "direct marketing". They want you to stop resisting, so they could sell products as services

>>509863958
I also remember CONTINOUSLY warning people to not take shit, stand up for their rights, don't accept predatory shit like DLC, don't give away your data for free, block the ads and so on, to all the normies going OMG DUDE WHATEVERRRRR, NO ONE CARRREESSSS :DDDDD and now they are all crying about the same exact shit I warned them about. I hope they will all rot in hell, fucking dumbass sheep. They couldn't handle the freedom of online anarchism, so they willingly gave it away all to corpos.

>>509864184
Great, than how simple is this, your corpo shill. Piracy is legal in Hungary.

>>509863726
>The Golden Pass is a lifetime pass
The only part of your post that matters, the part where you prove yourself wrong.

>>509864271
you need your account for save progress and you get games from the account where the subscription is purchased by the person who will sell you access to it

>>509861663
People love their bread and circuses
the price of bread is becoming much more expensive and the circuses are being fucked with
You think people would learn, but they never do

When I buy Skyrim why would I think it comes with like the SC ? Only physical as the way it is no dlc included and only on pc.

intellectual property is not property, therefore it is not immoral or even possible to "steal" it.
the solution to dead games (and a whole host of other gay jewish bullshit) is not more regulation, it is the complete and irreversible repeal of all (((IP laws and protections))), including but not limited to copyrights, patents, trademarks, trade secrets, geographical indications, plant breeding rights, semiconductor topography rights, moral rights, neighboring rights, publicity rights, trade dress protections, domain name protections, vessel hull design protections, sui generis protections, utility models, petty patents, design patents, collective marks, certification marks, service marks, sound marks, color marks, scent marks, hologram marks, position marks, motion marks, multimedia marks, non-traditional trademarks, well-known mark protections, famous mark dilution protections, cybersquatting protections, passing off protections, trade name protections, business name protections, performers' rights, broadcasting rights, producers' rights, droit de suite, rental and lending rights, public performance rights, synchronization rights, mechanical reproduction rights, digital performance rights, webcasting rights, simulcasting rights, statutory licensing, compulsory licensing, collective licensing, extended collective licensing, orphan works provisions, safe harbor provisions, notice-and-takedown systems, content identification systems, digital rights management legal protections, anti-circumvention laws, and any other legal monopolies or artificial scarcities created by government intervention in the free flow of information.

>>509864441
>Piracy is legal in Hungary.

No it's not, what is legal is to download cracked software, which I also support, because the one downloading has not signed any contract with the developer company, and even if it has done so because the cracked software prompts a contract signing sheet, such contract is not valid because the company has not consented issuing a contract for that person, because the software has not been acquired through official sources.

The category of piracy should only be applied to the guy that distributes the game.

>>509863726
>oh yeah you think the golden pass is some kind of lifetime pass, chud??
>well keep your pants on because I'm about to blow your mind
>because the golden pass is a lifetime pass
shit, he got me, I didnt see it coming

>>509865240
I agree that intellectual property does not exist per se, and it is a tool to monopolise designs and game mechanics. But what if you sign a use agreement with the company that says that you can't distribute the game? Violating contract terms usually implies giving a compensation which renders the situation akin to theft though it is not formally theft.

Contracts are always incomplete and can't cover all possible situations (see incomplete contract theory) and this has serious implications for the so called intellectual property. For example, If someone somehow manages to reverse engineer the whole game and distributes it, it would be very hard for the company to prove that the user has violated any contract term to achieve those results, and for me that wouldn't be piracy. But that, however, does not mean that the company does not have the right to limit the use of the game via contracts to protect their creative effort.

>>509865538
I knew you corpo loser tried to cope by purposefully misunderstanding it. No, retard. It is legal. Pirating anything form anywhere for entertainment is legal.

>>509863519
EU initiatives must be read and considered by parliament if they reach a million signatures, and I think they also have to meet with the organizers of the initiative. Are you pretending to be retarded to poison the well, or did you not know that?

>>509866195
I see the nuance anon, I was just using hyperbole to point out how ridiculous the proposed solution is when it contradicts the litany of protections those same regulating bodies granted to the corpos. contract violations are a civil dispute between specific parties who voluntarily agreed to terms and you can work within that framework without retarded IP law imposing restrictions on people who never agreed to any terms in the first place. though contract terms have their own problems, the vast majority are take-it-or-leave-it and essentially mean if you don't accept you don't participate, basically recreating IP law is a problem for unconscionability doctrine. things can certainly be different there but that's a separate question. take away the IP protections and the whole house of cards falls down and your fundamental rights as a consumer end up in a much better position. the massive waste in enforcement and rent-seeking for IP law has to go.

>>509861663
The games they're "taking away" are dependent on company infrastructure you don't own, like a game server for example. So you can't actually steal them. The campaign is going to give developers a legal obligation to make the game playable after support ends.

That's why the "if buying isn't owning, then piracy isn't theft" Piracy isn't going to save the kinds of games SKG is campaigning against.

>>509866236
You are way less intelligent than you think, and no matter how loud you repeat it, you are wrong about the laws of your own country. Your direction brain prevents you from understanding ideas of others if you are triggered by an element of them that seems to contradict yours. I've said that intellectual property does not exist per se and that it is very hard for a company to prove that the contract terms have been violated by an user, but they have the right anyway to establish the contract terms they want, so gamers have also the fault if they have consistently bought games with contract terms they don't like, and they could reshape the practices in the market if they bought wisely. But, as you are an statist loser (while also claiming internet anarchy >>509864352
, what an irony), you want to get everything you don't like legislated the way you like, completely ignoring that the EU is doomed because of the myriad retarded regulations we have.

>>509861532 (OP)
So we are renting intellectual property? That's illegal. Time to get a list of my games and sue the BBB for allowing these companies to operate outside of the law.

>>509868116
You're a jeet shill with broken ass english. Your shilling does not work.

>>509863311
You wait for Stop Killing Games to pass and then you pirate the game once the developer stops providing the online service.

>>509866496
all i know is i see 20 threads a time of shilling on the catalogue which i dont care about on an initiative that wont do anything

>>509861532 (OP)
>then piracy isn't theft
in regards to movies, music and software it is not theft unless you deprive the creator of their product or profit from their product

>>509861532 (OP)
it's true. if I buy a game on steam how come I can't sell it?? it just sits there in the library, unplayed. it's heartbreaking.