>mic drop

>just two more decades until odessa

jeet thread

>5'3'' and an attitude

Why do they need to "withdraw" from lands that Russia annexed in September of 2022?

>>509948756 (OP)
*stands up*
*clap* *clap* *clap*

>>509948959
Because Russia “annexed” land that they don’t actually control and now they’re hoping Ukraine will just give it up

>>509949326
Why do they need them to give it up though? Why can't they just take it by force? It's been two and a half years.

>>509948756 (OP)
I hope it was worth the 1 million soldiers lol

>Next time, it'll be five

>>509949443
Because Russians are terrible at war

>>509949443
>>509949975
Nice one nafo fellas

>>509950244
nafo are faggots and I love the sight of Slavic blood

>>509950345
no shit you jews hated slavs since the tsar put you in your place

>>509950244
I just asked a basic and obvious question. What's your answer if you disagree with the other anon's answer?

>>509948756 (OP)
Up to million dead and maimed between two sides in a pointless border war over useless lands now utterly depopulated and drowned in a sea of landmines. Dimplomats delivering "badass" quotes though, wow hekking based

Subhumans.

>>509950464
you're not wrong but the lands arent useless or else jews wouldnt have been throwing so much money at the jewkraine to take it back for them

>Act like a nigger
>Make yourself an international pariah
>Your only support is people in your CP ring
>Invade country
>Fail fantastically
>Re-fuel invaded country's military industry to the point they can regularly bomb your airfields
>They destroy your economy forcing you to sell most of your gold reserves
>They destroy your entire tank corps
>They destroy your entire artillery corps
>Now you mostly do infantry assaults in whatever APC/IFV/AFV you can scrounge up or just put them on scooters
>Your main tactics is just saturate-attack a place until you advance a field
>Even the president you hoped got into power in the USA is now sending ammo to your enemy again
>Somehow North Korean troops are better than your elite Naval Infantry
>Inadvertedly give the entire enemy bloc information on how your doctrine sucks
>Your missiles due to innacuracy and reliability issues do fucknothing but kill civilians
>You also now have to ration your missiles
>All the land you've taken is useless and full of partisans to the point you gotta make more armored trains to patrol them
>Your troops now use 70yo designs instead of your supposed service rifle
>Swear that you'll somehow keep this going until you take a fifth region (while not controlling a single one fully)
I'm fucking sure this is the exact position several HOI4 players have been just before ragequitting

>>509950426
I denounce the talmud

>>509950570
What use are they? It's just depopoulated rubble now full of unexploded ordinance. Most of the ethnic Russians are dead and only babushkas are left.

>>509950601
By the fucking way, I thought Russia would stop commiting le ebin honorable sepukku the moment I saw prototypes getting used in a war, this happened during the first month, now I haven't even seen a T-72A/B in a while

>>509948756 (OP)

I will never get bored of just how much nafo trannies are seething about Russia. All their internet brigading was for nothing, claiming Russia is losing again and again and again did not actually make them lose. All their time spent and their efforts and their emotional investment were all for nothing.

>>509950464
It was never about where the border lies in ukraine, you geopolitical brainlet.

>>509951619
second most reddit post i've read on this God-forsaken imageboard
explain this image, contrarian retard

>>509951619
They many not be losing, but demanding that your enemy hand over territory you annexed 2.5 years ago because you can't take it by force isn't winning, is it?

>>509951745
My dude, I don't even open nafotroon images. What do you think, what is the impact of the random shit you post on the internet on the war? No amount of whining on the internet will affect anything. You are not engaging in some kind of "infowars". Wishful thinking does not make facts go away.

Z

>>509951967
>my dude, [COPE]
sad, many such cases
I'm amazed, you're actually so dumb that you see a prime example of an army's material condition deteriorating and you go "Psht, nothing to worry about"
wrong imageboard to post on, reddit/twitternigger, go back

>>509951947
That is how negotiations work. When you are behind, you make concessions while you still have a position to negotiate from.

Also, if you had half a brain, you'd realize that Russia has no intentions to sign anything now, after getting burned with Minsk I-II, and the treaty they agreed with ukraine two weeks into the war until bojo told them to fight to the last ukranian. They are keeping them running to project the image of someone wanting to negotiate, but they would never sign anything concrete, its classical Russian deception in depth. They will only end when ukraine is "neutralized", meaning either annexed outright or completely disarmed.

I find it INCREDIBLY funny how the ones who seethe about Russia 0-24 online are the ones taking their shit at face value.

>>509952328
Are you upset because your reddit gotcha moments get denied? Wanna move on to goreposting now or you will just cry? What do you think, what is the impact of the random shit you post on the internet on the war? This question always crushes nafotroons

>>509952582
>Are you [COPE]
Please, just tell me, would an army not utterly destroyed use picrel? Come on, the words slurring past the dick on your mouth are gloats, I'm sure you can prove your smarts, can't you?

>>509952582
>That is how negotiations work.
Why does Russia need to negotiate? Why not just take the oblasts by force? It's been 2.5 years since they officially annexed them. This is what I'm asking. Didn't read the rest of your seethe.

>>509948756 (OP)
LOL, get back in my Gore Folder, Ivan

>>509952770
What do you think, what is the impact of the random shit you post on the internet on the war?

I mindbroke this one. Bet they will start goreposting after this.

>>509952854
Because negotiating keeps options open for them, even if they don't want to take those options in the current situation. It also makes the west more likely to lesser their support of ukraine, as they really want to negotiate a ceasefire and be done with it, so the west is laboring under a false assumption based on their wishes, while Russia is prosecuting a war of attrition to the end.

Are you really this new to geopolitics? The fact that the nafotroons who are supposedly the biggest enemies of Russia are unable to detect such a simple Russian plot is going to be ETERNALLY funny,

>>509953837
Okay but why haven't they just taken the oblasts by force? Why must I keep asking this question?

>>509953940
They have taken counties by force. What, how you think ukraine lost five so far? Fell out of their pocket? Left it on the bus?

And if I had to guess, you keep asking this because you are stupid and uneducated. Like, you did not even know the purpose of negotiations.

>>509948832
>>509948832
>>509948832
RUSSIA IS GETTING
JEETED
KEK. I CALLED IT.

>>509950464
>>509950464
>>509950464

>>509953837
>"shit you post"
No, my melinated friend, I'm showing you the conditions of the front! I'm sorry that you can't answer the question, but let me rephrase it for your IQ. If you used to shoot at people with a rifle, run out of bullets, and start throwing stones at them, and they're still going towards you, are you in danger?
Come you, you can do this!

DENOUNCE
THE
TALMUD, NO BALLS MUTTS.

>>509949466
That’s a huge population boost though? Sounds like a win. Though I doubt they lost 1 million soldiers in total on either side. Ukraine claimed 6,000 Russia dead in mid-2022 and that was over a year after the war started. Assuming it’s likely closer to 20-30,000 at this point on their side now. They barely have any actual troops out there still to this day because Putin refuses to declare war and is still calling it a special military operation or whatever.

>>509948756 (OP)
>>509948832
>Die in Ukraine so your sisters and widows can be gang-raped by pajeets

LE HECKIN' BASED RUSSIA!

>>509954250
COME
AND
SEEEEEEE

>>509948840
is that zelonsky

>>509948756 (OP)
These Russians With Attitude ziggers live in the EU btw

>>509950464
Up to 140 million dead and maimed wait they gained over 5 millions didn’t they
Up to 150 million dead and maimed

>>509948756 (OP)
So Russia isn't satisfied with their current running world record for most casualties to a minor conflict? They want double or nothing? Good riddance, let them exhaust every able bodied male in that land so the US doesn't have to ever lose a proverbial wink of sleep again.

>>509954144
So they have taken them already? Then why are they demanding that Ukraine withdraw from them? I don't understand.

>>509948756 (OP)
Hardly the drop of a mic so much as an empty threat falling on deaf ears.

>>509948756 (OP)
based if true.

>>509954790
Yes. They have. Are you retreating this deep into denial, or just completely uninformed? They are demanding more as part of the negotiations. If ukraine complied, they would immediately add more.

>>509954249
What do you think, what is the impact of the random shit you post on the internet on the war?


Its very funny seeing how completely lost and directionless troons are without someone telling them what to believe.

>>509952582
>When you are behind, you make concessions while you still have a position to negotiate from.
No you fucking don’t. You make concessions as part of a final deal, you NEVER just give up ground and put yourself in an even WEAKER position without any guarantees.

If Ukraine were dumb enough to actually pull back, Russia would take the land and then find an excuse to end the ceasefire immediately

>>509956186
>Yes. They have
I thought Kramatorsk and Slovyansk are in Donetsk oblast. Or is Donetsk not one of the 4 oblasts they annexed? I don't understand what they're demanded Ukraine withdraw from then. Where?

>>509948756 (OP)
NOOOOOOOOOOOOO

I don't like ukrainans
I don't like russians
I don't hate ukrainans
I don't hate russians
Why are they killing each other again? Are they animals?

>>509956847
Yes, but the Russian animals are stronger than the Ukrainian animals so it’s in our best interest to keep Ukraine supplied so they keep this going as long as possible

>>509956322
>>509956334
>He is denying that Russia invaded ukraine and controls a fifth of the country now

Whoops, this one broke down too. The sheer mismatch between his wishful fantasies and reality was too great again.

>without any guarantees.
Who on earth they would be expecting guarantees from? Not NATO, because they are not putting boots on the ground and starting WW3 for the heckin ukraineros so who? The western countries refused to sign a hard guarantee even in the mild geopolitical climate in the early 90s, and the US delegate went out of his way explaining that the Budapest Memorandum is in no way legally binding, so the ukies think they would do it now?

>If Ukraine were dumb enough to actually pull back, Russia would take the land and then find an excuse to end the ceasefire immediately
Are you finally understanding what I'm trying to explain to your dumb tranny brain? Even Trump told them so. They hold no cards and the only way Russia is going to relent is ukraine getting annexed or completely disarmed, puppeted and no longer a threat. There is a war of attrition going on and ukraine is inevitably losing it, as there is no western will to get stuck in yet another eternal war with no payoff. There is going to be no negotiated end of the war and Russia is not going to lose, so by exclusion it leaves only one outcome. It might take time to get there, a lot of trannies will hang themselves before seeing it, it might be dressed up nicely by the media as an armistice and a huge victory but in the end ukraine loses. In fact, they already have, their economy and demographics is in a death spiral and they are completely foreign owned on every level now. It would take 3-4 generations to come back from this already, and its getting worse by the day.

>>509957293
is Donetsk not one of the 4 oblasts Russia annexed?

>>509957355
>ignores reality and tries to continue with gotcha copes

Trannies are too mentally invested into their fantasies now.

>>509957707
What gotcha? I'm literally asking you a question and you just keep talking about all kinds of other stuff like it's an answer to my question.

>>509956847
Is it being an animal to defend your territory against a guy who is trying to steal it from you and turn it into a communist shithole?

>>509948756 (OP)
this is like 4 weeks old news retard

>>509948832
>Ukraine is losing to jeets

Embarrassing

>>509957293
I’m not the guy you’ve been talking to. You’re entirely right that there can’t be any guarantee without the west’s involvement. But even so there are degrees of commitment to peace - giving up land for a “temporary ceasefire” would be deeply retarded as it would obviously only last until Russia advanced to the new line.

The same dynamic plays out when it comes to a final peace agreement, as you say. I wouldn’t say NATO is entirely opposed to guaranteeing whatever is left of Ukraine at the end of this, and that’s what it would take for Ukraine to make peace before they’re forced to surrender.

But obviously preventing that is Russia’s primary war aim so they would sabotage that in any way they could, and we’d probably have to fight them - which NATO is not signing up for. I don’t see any incentive for either side to make peace right now. It’ll keep going until someone can’t any more.

>>509957854
Yes, animals are very territorial and stupid. Humans are extremely risk averse, poised and cunning. It's called risk calculation and sometimes the risk is not worth the reward.
Ukraine was a shithole, by far the worst shithole in Europe way before this happened.
I would never fight for my 3rd world corrupt shithole and its gay kike pedophile oligarchs if that helps explain things better, especially against people that speak like me and look like me.

>>509958370
>I would never fight for my 3rd world corrupt shithole and its gay kike pedophile oligarchs if that helps explain things better, especially against people that speak like me and look like me.
Russia is also a hopeless shithole. Debatable if it’s worse, but I for one would take globohomo alignment over being Putin’s slave

>>509954249
> ran all the way to Chile
Wow, you fear the white vans THAT MUCH Dmytro?

>>509957999
> You’re entirely right that there can’t be any guarantee without the west’s involvement
The west would NOT be involved as the entire war is about stopping their involvement in ukraine. The high water point of their influence came and went, as the are unable and unwilling to put boots on the ground so Russia eventually WILL conquer the entirety of it. reducing it to zero.

>But even so there are degrees of commitment to peace - giving up land for a “temporary ceasefire” would be deeply retarded as it would obviously only last until Russia advanced to the new line.
So why would they? Ukraine's situation gets worse by the day and there is no plan possible that could reverse it, short of starting WW3.


>I wouldn’t say NATO is entirely opposed to guaranteeing whatever is left of Ukraine at the end of this,
The NATO is entirely opposed, as they are not starting WW3 for ukraine


>I don’t see any incentive for either side to make peace right now. It’ll keep going until someone can’t any more.
That is a called a war of attrition. What is set up against each other is manpower of ukraine+western "advisors"+mercs vs russian manpower+north korean manpower, NATO manufacturing vs russian war economy + Chinese manufacturing+Iranian drones+north korean shell, western aid to keep ukraine solvent vs russian finances and western desire to keep a proxy war going vs russian willingess to retake lands they regard as historically their. Note that Russia holds a distinctly massive advantage in every single field. Ukraine has already selectively defaulted on some debts and even according to their state media is struggling with massive manpower shortages. The outcome is never in any doubt now, Russia is just patient enough to play it out.

>>509958947
>just die for jews bro russia is le same
how about no

>>509959087
Why did you say Russia has taken all of the 4 oblasts in question when they haven't?

>>509959087
We basically agree on all this. But as long as the Ukrainians aren’t ready to give up yet, I am more than happy to keep sending them bullets.

I wouldn’t totally discount the possibility that Russia’s situation changes and it’s unable to continue the war of attrition forever, but it certainly looks like everyone is willing to just grind it out until Ukraine falls apart, not matter the cost

>>509959257
Russia isn’t the same, it’s even worse. At least Ukrainians can get remote coding jobs or something with American companies. Russians have no investment, no rights, no hope at all. The only difference is your wealth is stolen by rich muscovite chauvinists instead of jews

>>509959592
>tranny hit the retard loop of denial

>>509959758
>I wouldn’t totally discount the possibility that Russia’s situation changes and it’s unable to continue the war of attrition forever,

This is why you are retard coping, like Hitler in the bunker. They have no chance at winning. There is no possible scenario that would lead to Russia losing. Hundreds of thousands of trained and well equipped troops are not going to appear out of thin air. There is no counterattack coming from Steinerenko. Russia is not going to collapse from sanctions, as they have already showed remarkable resilience to them and it is within China's geopolitical interests to not let them collapse anyway.

The only reason it is still going on that the west is so invested that they are still desperately trying to find an exit strategy

>>509960268
You said:
>Yes. They have.
But they haven't. So why did you say they have?

>>509948840
topkek

>>509960630
>tranny hit the retard loop of denial

>>509960970
You wouldn't need to lie if the truth supported your position.

>>509948756 (OP)
To the next 3 day special operation.

>>509960268
Sure there’s a possibility. Putin could have a heart attack tomorrow, it’s anybody’s guess what happens then. Maybe the latest wunderwaffe actually does make it twice as costly to keep the war going. I’m saying the situation could change, I’m not predicting it will.

I’m sure there are many Ukrainians coping about it and expecting the Russian army to mutiny in two more weeks or something. More power to them, as long as they keep shooting our bullets. The more costly this is for Putin, the less of a threat he is to us later.

>>509961055
>tranny hit the retard loop of denial

>>509961339
>Putin could have a heart attack tomorrow, it’s anybody’s guess what happens then
What would happen? You think he would suddenly get replaced by a heckin wholesome pro-west liberal? That Russian geopolitical interests would change? Even THE heckin wholesome pro-west liberal navalniy supported the war in ukraine. Geopolitics remain the same.


>Maybe the latest wunderwaffe actually does make it twice as costly to keep the war going
What wunderwaffe? We went through like, two dozen of them. What is left in the western arsenals to give and Russia wouldn't be able to escalate if they wish?

>I’m saying the situation could change,
No, it could not. Its just pure retard copes.

>The more costly this is for Putin, the less of a threat he is to us later.
Completely wrong and stupid. The war made Russia, who was trying to be netural between China and the west a Chinese ally and totally committed to destroying the western world order, which they see as an existential threat now. You think sorta tying them down for a few years was worth emptying out the western arsenals, spending hundreds of billions of dollars and enduring a gigantic loss of face as the entirety of the western diplomatic, moral, media, financial, military, etc. support was unable to defend its sphereling getting destroyed?

>>509961939
You seem really upset and are raging at everyone itt.

>>509948756 (OP)

>>509961939
>The war made Russia, who was trying to be netural between China and the west a Chinese ally and totally committed to destroying the western world order, which they see as an existential threat now.
Yeah that’s why they invaded multiple countries (e.g. Georgia) for being too friendly with the US. Get real. Russia has never been or wanted to be our friend. At best, we could be friends with them if we took their side against Western Europe, which is never going to happen. Russia was always essentially hostile since Putin took over and this is just the most aggressive instance so far.

I also think you mischaracterize what this war has done to NATO. It gave us Finland, for one, and it has finally given Europe the incentive to ramp up their arms manufacturing again, which we have been trying to get them to do for DECADES. From the perspective of the US, this has essentially been a win from the moment the initial invasion failed.

>>509948756 (OP)
Based AF

>>509950464
Pointless border war is brainlet take. China will eventually take taiwan Israel Iran is going nowhere. Dollar will inflate to meme proportions due to all these wars spending. Jewmerica will ultimately get nothing burger out of this besides stupid amount of inflation and prestige hit not being able to beat their rivals.

>>509948756 (OP)
this was six months ago
russia can't win a war

>>509952770
leave the studbekkers from WWII lend liesing alone.
The evil americans arm the allies-soon-to-be-enemies with their own gear, then fight them. Iraq, Afganistan, many such cases.

>>509950464
Luckily the vast majority of them are hohols and you know it. That's why you're coping.

>>509948826
The ukrainian birth collapse is the entire reason the russians were able to invade, since Putin put a lot of monies into increasing the russian birthrate 20 years ago. The gap will be bigger in 10 years, since Russian births peaked near 2 million in the 2010s while ukrainian births collapsed.

So in 20 years they will have the whole country, because there will be fewer than 20 million Ukrainians against 350 million central asians+their russian masters.

>>509953063
I would like to remind everyone that this is what draft officers want to do to you.

Russia, Ukrainian, American, it doesn't matter. None of these people would be dying and nobody would be delivering drone strikes if it weren't for the draft officers that dragged them all to that Hell in the first place.

Remember, the only enemy in a modern war are the draft officers.

>>509954279
It's literally not, it's a lose-lose for just about everyone but the elite of Russia

>import pajeet
>difficult to communicate with
>subpar work
>lives on as little money as possible
>sends the rest home
>eventually leaves to go back home

These people don't contribute to Russia, they pay taxes, live off the bare minimum and the rest of the money gets sent to India where it circulates in India and benefits Indian enterprise long term. Importing people for work are band-aid solutions.

>>509948756 (OP)
sheeit

>>509948832
>>509948756 (OP)

>>509950601
>and then I woke up

>>509953063
russoids are cucked they should be warcriming ukrainian niggers more often for this shit, whats the point of torturing a wounded dude to death? hes already fucked and out of the fight

>>509948756 (OP)
Russia doesn't understand that increasing your demands only works as a plausible threat if you can actually prove you can even take the original demands.

>>509952770
Um, it’s old gear sweaty. That’s the cope you parasites always use

>>509957971
Russia losing so bad they gotta import jeets you mean what happened to the 1 million russians they are replacing?

>>509959758
Then you can give them ammo that you personally pay for. Stop demanding everyone else fund your faggot friends through their tax dollars

>>509957971
>jeets are more effective than Russians
Grim

>>509948840
Zelensky?

>>509950464
>Russia gained 5 million people and some of the most valuable land in Europe + more warm sea coastline
>uh…actually that’s bad for Russia!

>>509968143
>Stop demanding everyone else fund your faggot friends through their tax dollars
No. Vote against me if you don’t like it, God knows you probably vote for all sorts of shit I don’t like

>>509949443

Because the US and nato have been fighting a proxy war. Now the Russian elite are pissed at Putin for dragging this out so Russian MoD is finally beginning the scorched earth fuck your civilians tactics. Yesterday over 700 drones and missiles fired, today another drone and missile wave was sent into kiev. For the past couple weeks Russia has intensified their response. Apparently they didn't run out of missiles and drones after all. Russia even winning the hearts and minds of ukr civvies by attacking the tcc kidnapping offices with drones.

>>509948756 (OP)
Interesting.
Next time all the Tu-95 bombers will be destroyed.

>>509968470
>vote
lmao get a load of this fucking retard.

>>509963456
>Remember, the only enemy in a modern war are the draft officers.
This, and also the glownigger kikes and oligarch billionaires sending you to die so that they can sell more bombs and tanks and drones using the money they print out of thin air that you then have to pay back with interest using the limbs you lost when a drone hit your apc.
Get a gun and shoot anyone trying to draft you, you might actually live longer.

>>509950464
A certain tyrant named Putin decided to wage war so he can use it as an excuse to tighten the control of his own people and ensure he will rule until he dies.
The rest is smoke and mirrors.

>>509969191
>muh vooter vooting
If you are so personally insufferable that nobody will work with you to organize for political power, then it's your problem, lel.

>>509948756 (OP)

>>509948756 (OP)
>next time it'll be 5
Wat?
Can i get a qrd?

>>509969191
I am responding to a guy who was speaking to me as if I had any power. I responded with respect to the amount of meaningless power I and he both have. The entire conversation is pointless if you reject that premise.

We are all little people who can’t individually affect anything, you’re not smart or edgy for pointing it out though

>>509962086
This is copypasta, but it literally applies inthe case of
>>509961939
>Russians are capable of literally eating an ox cart worth of shit, deny they are eating shit, claim the west is spreading misinformation how Russians eat shit, say they eat a little bit of shit - a teaspoon, educate everyone how putting a spoon of shit in your soup is beneficial for your immune system, show researches of independent Russian scientists how a scoop of shit 3 times a day keeps the doctor away, find historical evidences from Telegram how shit is full of vitamins so the more you eat of it the better for your organism, and by the time everyone out of Russia is gagging and puking in their mouth looking how Russians chew on fat shit logs, the ox cart of shit will be picked clean of its content.
And at the end they will just say there was no shit in the cart, literally 0 evidence of that claim, can't you see it's sparkling clean?

>>509949466
It's not like Russian lives have any value

>>509948832
>russia seeks to import jeets to replace labor lost
called it lmao. anyone who didn't see this coming from a mile away is retarded

>>509949917
https://files.catbox.moe/zpoxd4.webm

>>509968841
>Yesterday over 700 drones and missiles fired
To what effect though. Their last biggest ever strike a couple days ago injured 23, no killed. An average night in Chicago is way worse than that.