We literally have a trader SURPLUS with Brazil this shit is retarded

Brazil has huge tariffs in place, especially on electronics. If tariffs are retarded, then why do so many countries have them and are unwilling to drop them?

What's really retarded is believing that a difference in imports and exports from/to any particular country matters.

>>509955952
Why is it retarded and why didn't you say why?

>>509955695 (OP)
>LEAVE THE COMMUNIST DICTATORSHIP ALONE

at this rate they'll never get the dreamcast

>>509956009
It's retarded because it's unreasonable i.e. there's no reason for it.
Imagine if some retard (politician) demanded that because you bought something from a shop you must therefore sell the shop owner something. Trade doesn't need to be balanced in that way.

>>509955695 (OP)
I mean, you voted for this, wtf were you expecting?

>>509956359
Why is it unreasonable? You just gave it a different name but didn't explain why.

>>509955695 (OP)
>Out of touch Boomer destroys economy
Many such cases.

>>509956359
Do you choose to do business there anyway? Do they make additional profit off their purchase? If so that is not retarded, but smart.

>>509956206
You don’t even know what that word means you fucking dumbass.

>>509956458
That's just the definition. I can't give you a reason as to why it's unreasonable because that's a contradiction in terms.

>>509956766
I accept your concession then.

>>509956558
There are some places where I do business very often like my local grocery store but I guarantee almost nobody who shops there is selling stuff there.

>>509955695 (OP)
Any idiot thinking this is about tariffs or internet censorship is retarded, Trump is mad about the expansion of BRICS and the creation of CELAC.
I honestly don't give a shit, I'm tired of high prices on our food because we gotta compete with the dollar for it, place a 300% tariff, please.
Also, LMAOing at him asking for brazilian industry to move to the US, what the fuck can even move there? Fucking Taurus?

>>509956808
Its unreasonable because it's bad ugh why y'all chuds being so weird?

>>509956910
>Also, LMAOing at him asking for brazilian industry to move to the US, what the fuck can even move there?
You're a massive player in the beef industry in the US already, I assume they want more of that.

https://thecounter.org/foreign-ownership-national-beef-packing-marfrig-brazil/

>>509956910
>"hahah Trump is bad but my country is also bad but fuck Trump"
These are the low IQ 3rd worlders that spam MIGA and fell for it all day

Retards in this thread defending the orange nigger raising taxes on American importers and it's citizens and gaslighting us like it's a good thing that we're going to end up paying more
This thing that totally screws you is good
Weren't these about bringing manufacturing back to America, instead it's helping offshore the last bit we still have besides being a distraction from them lying about the Epstein list

>>509957628
Enjoy paying more for eggs and coffe I guess, that is, if your president doesn't TACO.

>>509955695 (OP)
Brazil's exports to the US are about 12% of total exports

>In May 2025, the top exports of Brazil to United States were Crude Petroleum ($589M), Semi-Finished Iron ($213M), and Coffee ($199M)
These goods are all easily sold elsewhere

>>509955695 (OP)
the first set of tariffs hit two islands that aren't populated by humans and have no trade. you are thinking about this harder than anyone in the administration does

>>509955942
those tariffs are retarded and stop me from buying cheap chinese garbage

>>509955695 (OP)
Man it's getting easier and easier to spot the subhuman shitskin niggers from how they react to the third world shitholes getting mogged like they've deserved this whole time. Feels good to be pure white blood. inb4 that term triggers subhuman nigger trash. I'm out.

>>509958315
>and Coffee ($199M)
Does this mean that coffee gets cheaper in europe? It's been getting quite pricy of the late...

Big Stick policy. He will do that and ask for something in return, and he's likely to get at least a negotiation. Sure it may burn a few bridges, but that's how the man rolls while the world awaits for next US admin.

>>509958943
How much are you paying for it?

>>509955695 (OP)
fuck those commie monkeys

>>509959078
He might have just gifted lula his reelection

>>509957671
It's really mind-boggling that so many migatards don't understand that being able to buy cheap shit from all over the world is a sweet fucking deal for american consumers. Trump is just destroying your buying power because he wants to weaponize tariffs

>>509959173
Around 18,50€ /kg

>>509955695 (OP)
Trump's hoping for post-WW2 American prosperity, but what he's getting is Hooverville prosperity.

>>509959078
>Sure it may burn a few bridges
And build more than a few between Brasil and China.

>>509959365
I doubt that, but we'll see.

>>509959555
Kek fuck, that's expensive. What kind of coffee do you drink?

>>509955952
>What's really retarded is believing that a difference in imports and exports from/to any particular country matters.
David Ricardo, one of the all time greatest geniuses of economics, would like to have a word with you.

>>509959365
>Election
Who gives a shit about elections
The other popular leader is banned from the elections, the time to play by the rules is long gone

>>509959555
Coffee costs the same here. 2 lbs costs about $20

>>509959369
>It's really mind-boggling that so many migatards don't understand that being able to buy cheap shit from all over the world is a sweet fucking deal for american consumers. Trump is just destroying your buying power because he wants to weaponize tariffs
The US gets to export its inflation and get real goods from around the world in exchange for money that we have the power to print. It's a fantastic deal and should not be messed with, at least not by any American who enjoys getting things practically for free.
Of course, this arrangement can't last forever (just like nothing in time and space lasts forever), but it's good to keep this arrangement in place for as long as it can last.

>>509960033
>What kind of coffee do you drink?
Paulig Juhla Mokka and normally black without extras. Though I do enjoy having some oat cookies while drinking coffee.

>>509961004
... though now looking the online prices, I suddenly realize I may have been getting ripped of by the local supermarket as apparently I could order that stuff online for half the price... Fuckers

>>509960706
Perpetuating the reserve currency system allows bankers and the military industrial complex to siphon away any benefit before it actually reaches the citizenry. Things are already so bad that our average QoL is on par with Europeans, despite the US starting from a far superior economic position after WW2, and Europeans being retarded cucks. A system being beneficial in theory doesn't matter if it is empirically failing.

>>509955942
Yeah we should really copy Brazils tariffs, they've done wonders for Brazil

>>509957434
Marfrig sells some really tasty burguers, I've eaten them before.

>>509961854
Funny. Here is the other way around. Local is far cheaper. Good for you on your discovery. Coffee is too delicious.

>>509955695 (OP)
Does anyone even listen to him anymore?
everyone knows he'll puss out
TACO

>>509955942
>If tariffs are retarded, then why do so many countries have them and are unwilling to drop them?
Because unlike the retarded kikeloving pedophile running the US they target specific industries those countries want to protect and don't blanket tariff things your country doesn't even make because you're upset you buy more cacao from them than they do shitty SUVs.

So what? Just trust the plan, retard. We are always right in the end.

>>509956206
>>509959338

>Country boycotts Israel
>Suddenly tariffs
Hmmmmmm

>>509955695 (OP)
I didn't major in economics, but to me it looks like there is a surplus of stuff in the world. you'll have warehouses full of shit that rotts or gets thrown away just because they couldn't ship it to other places for whatever reason... [politics or whatever.

seems to me the issue is about being able to get things where they are needed plus rich people fucking us over on prices and making shit hard to get on purpose to get a profit.

No one cares, he should just stfu

>>509963183
He's literally writing PLS RESPOND letter to countries who spent the last 3 months ignoring him the last time he chickened out on tariffs, letting them know he's giving them yet another month to call him. They know he's not going to do shit because the minute he reinstates his LIBERATION DAY tariffs the markets are going to sink again.

>>509955695 (OP)
Literally what do we even import from the US? MacacoDonald's doesn't even count since it's produced locally.

>>509963906
Tech, but the tariff is on our shit going over there, which means americans will pay more for thing they can't buy from other countries but Brazil, like coffe, while thing like iron and oil will also have an increase in price due to a lack of competition.
it's also worth noting that of out Total exports, only about 115 go to the US, while about 30% go to China and the rest is spread around the world.
What Trump is doing will only bring BRICS closer, that is, if he even goes through with it, which he always seem to shy away from doing.

>>509963628
>Other countries are only getting tariffed an extra 10% with no retaliation. There's no way you'll fuck them even harder, pussy Drumpf.
And before you regurgitate your programming, the average price of imported non-Chinese products has not increased 10%, meaning other countries are in fact eating part of the tariffs. I don't know if even the cost of Chinese products has increased 10%.

>>509955942
you dont know how bad we have it because of tariffs

>>509963906
>MacacoDonald's
Not to mention it's both more expensive and toxic than your local burger shop.

>>509957628
you won, migatard, and look what it got you

>>509963906
>Literally what do we even import from the US?
Feminism, corruption, kike worship and woke ideologies.

deepseek

Here’s a breakdown of the 10 biggest exports from Brazil to the U.S. by trade volume (based on recent data), along with an analysis of demand elasticity, substitutability, and potential impacts of a 50% U.S. tariff:
Top 10 Brazilian Exports to the U.S. (2023 Estimates)

Crude Oil

Estimated Trade Value: ~$10-15 billion

Demand Elasticity: Low (inelastic in short term, essential for energy)

Alternative Buyers: Yes (China, EU, India could absorb more)

Tariff Impact: U.S. refiners may shift to other suppliers (Canada, Saudi Arabia), but prices could rise moderately.

Aircraft & Parts (Embraer)

Estimated Trade Value: ~$5-8 billion

Demand Elasticity: Moderate (business jets are discretionary)

Alternative Buyers: Limited (niche market, but Europe/Asia possible)

Tariff Impact: U.S. airlines may delay orders; Brazil struggles to replace U.S. demand.

>>509955695 (OP)
not long ago Brazil signed a law (Law of Economic Reciprocity) that pretty much gives a lot of power to the president if any country tries to harm it economically, which is what Trump just did.
Anti-Americanism over here will only grow. Trump is basically throwing Brazil to the arms of BRICS, specially China.

>>509964903
https://youtube.com/shorts/bayiurMRDNQ
id rather just have mcdonalds

>>509965055

Iron & Steel

Estimated Trade Value: ~$4-6 billion

Demand Elasticity: Moderate (construction/auto sectors need it)

Alternative Buyers: Yes (China, Southeast Asia)

Tariff Impact: U.S. manufacturers may source domestically or from Mexico; price hike likely.

Coffee (Unroasted)

Estimated Trade Value: ~$2-4 billion

Demand Elasticity: Low (addictive good, but substitutes exist)

Alternative Buyers: Yes (EU, Japan, others)

Tariff Impact: Significant price shock for U.S. consumers (Brazil is a top supplier).

Basedbeans

Estimated Trade Value: ~$2-3 billion

Demand Elasticity: Low (animal feed critical for U.S. agribusiness)

Alternative Buyers: Yes (China already buys most of Brazil’s onions)

Tariff Impact: Minimal—U.S. would just buy more from Argentina.

Beef (Frozen & Fresh)

Estimated Trade Value: ~$1.5-2.5 billion

Demand Elasticity: Moderate (U.S. has domestic supply)

Alternative Buyers: Yes (China, Middle East)

Tariff Impact: U.S. consumers switch to domestic/Australian beef; price rise limited.

Wood Pulp (For Paper)

Estimated Trade Value: ~$1-2 billion

Demand Elasticity: Low (industrial necessity)

Alternative Buyers: Yes (EU, China)

Tariff Impact: U.S. paper product prices rise; Brazil easily redirects.

Footwear

Estimated Trade Value: ~$1 billion

Demand Elasticity: High (many alternatives—Vietnam, Indonesia)

Alternative Buyers: Yes (Europe, Latin America)

Tariff Impact: U.S. consumers switch to cheaper Asian imports; minimal price shock.

>>509965115

Orange Juice (Frozen)

Estimated Trade Value: ~$800 million - $1 billion

Demand Elasticity: Moderate (U.S. can source from Mexico/Florida)

Alternative Buyers: Limited (EU is main alternative)

Tariff Impact: Prices rise sharply—Brazil dominates global supply.

Ethanol (Fuel Alcohol)

Estimated Trade Value: ~$500-800 million

Demand Elasticity: Moderate (U.S. has domestic ethanol)

Alternative Buyers: Limited (Brazil uses most domestically)

Tariff Impact: U.S. shifts to corn ethanol; minimal disruption.

Key Takeaways on a 50% U.S. Tariff:

Biggest Price Shocks: Coffee, orange juice, crude oil (if no quick alternative).

Minimal Impact: Basedbeans, ethanol (U.S. can replace easily).

Brazil’s Pain Points: Aircraft, beef, footwear (hard to replace U.S. demand).

New Suppliers? Possible in oil (Middle East), steel (India), but not in niche markets like orange juice.

>>509963236
We're an empire
You got an issue then fight us
Now pay your tribute, vassals

>>509964747
>drumpf isn't a pussy he's just pushing off the tariffs he kept grandstanding about for nearly half a year because...negotiating tactics!
Seems to be working really well for him considering no one is responding to him and he has to make up deals with Vietnam and China that never existed. If they don't hurt the US, why won't he implement them when he says he will?

>>509956206
>Communist dictatorship
>President cucks to the market
>Not a single company nationalization
>Parliament filled to the brim with right-wingers
>Companies that date back to the US led dictatorship still owns all media and communications
>Communist

>>509964747
It's been quite short period of time, and the tariffs have been quite unpredictable, so companies might have been just eating the tariffs "for now" while waiting for the new trade argreements to be finished. And then they probably will raise the price slowly over couple of years to not alert the consumers (or cause trump to have yet another public meltie)

>>509965185
my deep seek analysis says its a bluff

2026
New York City
Met Life Stadium
O HEXA.

i wanna immigrate so bad

>>509955942
You really want to be more like Brazil you fucking dipshit?

>>509963236
This. Taruffs for raising revenue and for protecting industries are different, Trump's tariffs varying so much is indicitive of protectionist tariffs but the countries and industries he's targeting are retarded. Also tariffs should be paired wirh subsidies.

It's alright. Trump will send cheap GPUs to us and fix the relationship. He's just agitated with the Epstein files that's all.

>>509965472
Post your address.

>>509956594
Lula is literally part of the Worker's Party and pushes socialist (communist) economics as a standard, this is not even up for debate you're just a retard.

>>509965609
>pushes socialist (communist) economics
>never nationalized a company
>cucks to the stock market
>never did land reform
>never passed a single bill in support of worker's rights
Woah, it's almost as if they're center-right boomers who like Russia and Soviet aesthetics.

>>509965376
immigrate to hell

Between two narcissistic criminals and two cancers upon the world countries, I am rooting for mutual annihilation.
Both the cheetos nigger and the drunkard scumbag can go fuck themselves.

>>509965549
Why do you can come look for kids to rape you inbred kike retard? No thanks

>>509959797
the world war bit, yeah, we can't even manage to take on Iran

>>509965609
You’re a fucking moron

>>509965764
im already in it

>>509965192
The status quo is already a win. He wants to win harder/and or get something else. We'll see if he can.
>If they don't hurt the US
They might hurt the US, which is why he hasn't done it. That doesn't contradict anything I said. Which was that your retarded insinuation that he achieved nothing so far with his tariffs is wrong.

>>509965298
>you may be winning now, but you'll possibly stop winning in the future, maybe
It's possible. Though to actually start losing other countries would need to retaliate, which they have all apparently decided they can't successfully do. Until then democrat and foreigners' seething is impotent and delusional.

>>509965276
When people say communists, thee mean it's influenced by cultural marxists, in it's most recent form: Identity politics, which the government is filled with, thanks to the STF.
The right-wingers in parlament are powerless. One was arrested for years for saying things, despite a law granting the parlament absolute, unrestricted freedom of speech.

>>509965276
the new law signed gives a lot of power to the president, if Lula is smart he can use it to circumvent the congress in a lot of things.

>>509955695 (OP)
Based Trump lmao.

>>509956206

>>509955942
Why are all the countries with huge tariffs poor?

>>509966079
>STF.
Mutts don't know what STF means. Replace it with "supreme court", macaco.

>>509966156
And... he will do nothing. Absolutely nothing.
It's so fucking cringy and hilarious to see people trying to paint Lula as if he's the reincarnation of Beria in 2025. He's s a clueless Boomer without a successor and will lose big in 2026 considering his extremely low popularity.
>HERP DERP RIG
Even if he did, Trump's in power. If he rigged, it would be way too obvious. It will be an international shit show.

>>509966258
The point is to make us spend more so they can send extra dollars to israel, American citizens will see zero benefits, only increased prices. Hard times are coming, I look forward to it.

Brazil is pretty retarded. Should be the economic power house of south america, but they self cuck so hard

>>509956910
Wow apparently Brazilians are smarter than leafs and yuros. You should outright embargo us and then move on.

>>509955695 (OP)
If you've ever done any business in Brazil, you'd know how fucking byzantine it is. Their tax laws even between their own states are insane.
We actually don't do a whole lot of trade with them. A lot of it is just crude coming up and refined stuff going back. It won't have any real affect. We should have been doing a lot more if their markets were open and import rules were streamlined.

>>509955695 (OP)
How is it you retards continue to fall for this. Trump wants something. Brazil bends the knee, Trump drops the Tarrif. He does it over and over successfully then retards start calling him taco and shit like he isn't the most successful negotiator we've had in office in modern history. This shit is unbelievably predictable at this point but people are too fucking retarded to see it.

>>509966381
>Bong calling other retarded countries, retarded

Tariffs are the stupid man's tax. As in, they're a tax that the stupid people will celebrate the revenue of.
If a government imposed a new tax and then bragged about the new revenue stream from it, they'd be mad
But because MAGA convinced itself that paying for a tariff is different somehow (or even that the exporters are paying it???????) then the revenue is as good as magicked up from thin air!

>>509966310
this tariff was basically a present from Trump to Lula. I also doubt that he will do anything but we will have to wait and see.

>>509966540
>t. memeflag

>>509955695 (OP)
We have zero tariffs between us and South Korea, but American prefer buying Samsung phones and LG dryers over Whirlpool, so here we are: 25% tariffs on South Korean goods.

We are living in Herbert Hoover 2.0.

>>509966484
>greatest negotiator EVAR!!!!
>has to send hundreds of letters to most countries in the world like reminders from an exasperated office guy trying to get a response from his coworkers in the other departments

>>509955942
Because they're retarded.

>>509966381
The people in charge never wanted Brazil to be "succesful" keep that in mind. Brazil is not a country and was never meant to be a country, it's a giant plot of land for resource extraction. It was like this in the 19th century, 20th century, it will be like this forever.
It's 2025 and there's no land reform or even basic working rights, by the way.

>>509966658
Rather a memeflag than a MIGA

>>509966702
I have never voted for Trump tho, memeflag.

>>509955942
I unironically want to rape and murder my entire government because of the shitty ass tariffs they force me to live under

>>509966669
WTF do you think negotiations are? It's not immediately getting what you want unless you were formerly negotiating with the U.S. NAFTA was the biggest fuck in the ass this country ever took. Vietnam just ate a collosal cock meat sandwich but you fucking idiots will focus on the deals that haven't been made.

>>509967012
Vote libertarian.

>>509966381
How cute, the america's lapdog is talking

>>509967138
>Vote kike.
Kill yourself, hermano.

They threw Bolsanario in prison on made up charges, just like they tried to do with Trump and a dozen other populist candidates all over the world. Brazil is also the first nation in the Brics alternative system. It makes sense.

>>509966060
>Though to actually start losing other countries would need to retaliate
It is not really a score game where anyone "wins" (except for the rich who always get richer, but that's just how the things are).

>>509967102
pls respond

>>509956910
They want Embraer, the only thing of worth we have.

>>509967312
Kike loving chickenaro was never in jail, much less in prison. It's all theaters, faggot, just like voting.

>>509967312
the US got lula into power by CIA action lol
the US could individually sanction that one power tripping huezillian supreme court justice

>>509967317
The total amount of wealth cumulatively possessed by Americans and the US government is higher than it would be without the tariffs. You're right about that 'winning' not being equally distributed between Americans, but saying America as a whole is winning is a lot closer to the truth than the shilling that America is somehow losing.

>>509967709
wooden legs

>>509967312
You mean like they literally threw Lula in jail right before the elections Bolsonaro won and then Bolsonaro appointed the judge who did it as his justice minister?

>>509967687
https://www.sanders.senate.gov/in-the-news/sanders-kaine-hail-us-senates-passage-of-brazil-election-resolution/

>>509965310
Find out.

>>509967709
>Americans paying money to our government so he can give it to Israel is making us richer!!!

>>509967848
its a bluff

>>509967832
So basically, everything done to Bolsonaro was what he did to Lula?

>>509967832
Imagine being this much of a faggot to shill for this demented drunkard criminal.

>>509968166
I don't care about your Israel firster daddy

>>509968008
Not even. The supreme court judge in charge of Bolsonaro's case was put there by the people who took out Dilma. He is not even a leftist.
People outside the country think Lula has influence over the case when he tries to stay out of it. They try to paint the supreme court as being controlled by lula for politics but they are some of the same judges the voted to put lula in jail before

Brazilian politics are fake and gay, Bolsonaro depends on Lula just like he depends on Bolsonaro. Lula only won due to Bolsonaro. Bolsonaro still needs Lula around to maintain himself popular and relevant. If either dies, the system crumbles.
These two men are dinosaurs from the Cold War era.

>>509968345
MemeFAG, the drunkard was put there by the fucking jewnited states of israel, you massive faggot.
>>509967834
Besides, chikenaro can get rekt. I hate kike lovers and I also hate cowards.
>>509967577

Memeflag faggot who thinks there is a political solution to the west, hahaha. Show your flag, nigger.

>>509967312
>populism is good
Interesting.

>>509955942
>why do so many countries have them and are unwilling to drop them?

Internal pressure

People with businesses and a lot of money in those countries, basically pressure the government to not drop the tarrifs, otherwise they can't compete with foreign goods. The politicians are friendly with these people, they have donations and schemes with them. Basically, lobbying for protectionism so they don't have to be competitive.

Yes it´s that retarded, and it ruins nations.

Tariffs only help the government to tax more, and the leftist businesses allied to the politicians. Then, the retarded low IQs vote for ever mode taxation for free gibs

The actual tax payer needs a new separation of power and better organization to compete against protectionism and big government, simple as

If you are not saying "new separation of power", regardless of which country you are from, you are retarded and should die

Why do you retards still think these tariffs mean anything
buy the dip when it happens and literally make like 20% in a week

>>509968707
where can I buy a brazilian made gpu so I can support the national industry

>>509969073
There are none
Almost no one in this country makes anything high quality
Last time I thought "Wow, this stuff made in Brazil is actually good" was buying a fucking arcade stick to use in fighting games, since there was apparently some small Brazilian company making those

>>509969073
You can't even get those in the US. Sure they manufacture components that go along with it, but GPU chips are manufactured in Taiwan and South Korea.
Tariffs are for parasites, but your example sucks, macaco.

>>509965472
Yes, because if it wasn't for their tariffs, Brazil would be an economic power just like the US. That's the only difference.

>>509955695 (OP)
Not the first time burger try to fuck with huezil, it's a shame that no huezilian sue you faggots years back when you were leaning more left. At least it would be know all the fucked up shit glow niggers burgers did in huezil and south america at large.

>>509969283
natural resources broseph, sure we pay our ass out for electronics but i think i would rather have daily groceries for cheap. Meat and vegetables is so much cheaper and abundant here compared to other countries, i simply cannot believe how much people pay even for shitty beef

>>509967102

Vietnam won the trade deal and we lost. The trade deal did not bring manufacturing back. It will not reduce our trade deficit because it's still cheaper to buy from them than hire american works. All it did was increase prices for americans.

>>509969320
then why are they affordable there

>>509969073
right here

*unzips gpu*

>>509969550
>daily groceries for cheap

what are these random tariffs? what's wrong with glompf?

>>509956206
Holy retard

>>509966375
>American citizens will see zero benefits
I wish people would understand this reality when it comes to any politician's moneymaking schemes, sadly every single mouthbreather falls for it every time and then forgets it never worked out when the next scam comes along

>>509969894
They are not. Nvidia and AMD are often overpricing their products because it's impossible for new companies to get into the GPU market (even giant Intel failed miserably).
On top of price manipulation practices, there are also faggots stocking on GPUs for meme crypto currencies.

It's worse in bananil because we overtax our imports to extremes. Any bananil tax payer knows he is being overtaxed to his grave, but can't do shit because the drunkard took away out guns despite the majority of the population voting against it.

>>509969954
>rib steak in the us is 20 dollars per pound
>same meat i pay at best 8 for TWO pounds

>>509970285
they have their own problems but the problem is we pay way more than we should with the retarded excuse of protecting le industry

>>509970420
you're not paid in dollars however

>>509959369
It's demoralizing and pathetic having to buy something that costs ten cents to make for a hundred dollars but that's the hell we live in, from the suicide pact right-wing businesses and politicians put us in, but that doesn't mean tariffs aren't retarded being used to rip us off and increase prices with sides of market manipulation and intentionally hurting the country for the benefit of the Manchurian candidates masters in russia

>>509970658
Ye but even if you take that out, the price is still insane. I wouldn't pay 40 fucking dollars for 1 kilo of beef in the us,and this price only gets worse depending where you live in the us. The equivalent of the brazilian one is pennies compared to any other country. In all my time of living here meat prices hasnt even raised so much. The same meat used to cost 20 real or so, now 40 in 30y+ That's really good inflation

>>509955952
>What's really retarded is believing that a difference in imports and exports from/to any particular country matters.
This is a retard's mindset on tariffs. You people can only see as far as your nose. What you don't understand is that as a global reserve currency, countries NEED to trade with US. Imports, exports: it doesn't matter which. Their economies literally depend on US dollars flowing into each country. It's also why the US dollar has been devalued at a sharper rate than a lot of other currencies. We import wayyyyyy more than we need. Our economy is also strong enough to weather any tariffs other companies may charge us. We can hold out much longer than they can. Therefore, using tariffs as a tool to get what we want will be successful.

>>509961925
Aye. USA has the most money so ostensibly it's good to be American. Doesn't matter if the wealth is apportioned unevenly though.

You'd be better off living in a 'poorer' country as long as it distributed its resources more equitably.

Lula responded: reciprocal tariffs it is, this will make us closer to China than ever before.
We import more from the US than we export to them, so I expect some hurt to their side as well, while we replace their products with chinese ones, something that already started with cars, we sure have a lot of chinese cars now.
That's not to mention rare metals, Brazil produces 93% of the world's supply of Niobium, if we cut the US off, along with China cutting them off from other rare earth metals, then the US is fucked beyond fucked.

>>509970566
You still cannot buy a burger-made GPU. At most, you will get a burger-designed and burger-assembled GPU.

>>509971161
This country should be nuked to the bedrock

>>509958943
No. With how fucked up everything in you'll probably pay more and we'll get it even cheaper.

>>509971016
magatards cheering our currency going to zero is hilarious. see you in the mines!

>>509971016
It's not like they need, mostly they are forced and also convenient for the global oligarchy, it allows them to easily transport capital.

>>509955942
US doesn't export electronics faggot

>>509971161
Is this a snub for the epstein thing or I'm I reading too much into this?

>>509974641
No, it's definitely about epstein

>>509965609
And you guys seethe when Americans are called out of touch

>>509965072
With every passing month, the idea that trump is an undercover leftist gets more credible. Nothing has been better for the third-worldism than his policies

>>509964747
not true. data clearly show since tariffs began that import prices ex-tariff have gone slightly UP, meaning exporting companies aren't eating any of the tariffs. its all being borne by the consumer and reseller (mostly the latter, through lower margins).

>>509966484
when does the winning part start? i mean for americans, not israelis.

>>509979132
When you get to pay more for the same goods you always did, but the tournament gets to keep that money, instead.

>>509955695 (OP)
its not, death do lula and the foro of san pablo, an antiamerican lobby group in latin america

>>509978666
Where did you get that data? Sincere question, I'd like to know if I'm wrong.

>>509979635
Move on granpa, we call it brics now.

>>509956206
Oy vey

>>509979883
kkkkk
you globalized your thirdie resentment, impressive. shame china dont want nothing to do with it, NOT EVEN RUSIA

>>509955695 (OP)
Good. Free traders are traitors and should be hanged for it.

bros i kinda dont wanna be associated with india and south africa

Good, Brazil is too full of commies, they're a fucking eyesore for the region just slightly better than Venezuela or Ecuador, better to ruin their economy until they switch to libertarian like in Argentina
Death to mercosur

>>509968008
No. Like the other anon said, some of the people who put Lula in there are also condemning Bolsonaro. The difference is that Lula's trial had a bunch of illegal shit in it and they basically had to invalidate the condemnation. I think Lula was very much guilty of receiving benefits from corps he helped, but it's hard stuff to prove and doesn't help they were out to get him in any way.
I don't think the same is happening right now with Bolsonaro because the memory of what they did to Lula is pretty fresh and there's plenty of eyes on it, but Bolsonaro will never see jail. He's probably getting some cozy home detention because prison would deliver a message too close to home.

>>509979836
id link it but im on a shitty device that cant access a bunch of stuff. i think FRED publishes import prices, or if you have twitter, you can go to bob elliot's feed (hes a macro analyst) and see a post from a few days ago about it. sorry i dont have it handy.

>>509971161
>Brazil produces 93% of the world's supply of Niobium
Yeah, but they can source from other places. They just don't because we make it cheap enough.
Having said that, I agree. It will put us close to China, which is awful. We should extract as much as possible from both of them.

>>509955695 (OP)
>We literally have a trader SURPLUS with Brazil this shit is retarded
Why? We can do it. Why shouldn't we profit? Do you think they would play fair with us if they could TAKE an advantage?
>Is this post even real?
I'm too lazy to check. But the point still stands.

>>509980116
BRICS is just China. Forget everyone else. Only China matters in that arrangement.

>>509980454
>bob elliot
This guy? I'll take a look, thanks.

>>509979981
>shame china dont want nothing to do with it
He really doesn't know
KEK

>>509955695 (OP)
Rip coffee prices

Trump's mad because lost agricultural orders from China and Japan are being filled by Brazil
Americucks may not realize this but the rest of the world is doing a lot of diplomacy to strengthen trade and ties with each other on the assumption that the US is no longer reliable. This is how the USSRs international relations crumbled.

>>509955695 (OP)
He did that from the start, he had his reasons such as "the treatment towards bolsonaro" etc. But Trump not only did that but he disrespected Brazil by saying "who", "Spain?" to a reporter when he pretended not to know brics very well. I don't know if someone got the video.

>>509980766
Brazil actually has a trade deficit of 200 million with the US.
When reciprocal tariffs are put in place, it's the US that loses the most economically.
No rich person is going to stop looking for alternative markets to the US because they like American liberal democracy or something like that.
This will push Brazil straight in the opposite direction.

>>509955695 (OP)
This tariff war would be great for Brazil, if our political leadership gave a rat's ass about the nation instead of their own pockets. I expect our government to cuck within a month at max because of farmers' pressure. Everybody here are farmers' bitches after all.
In the meantime, I'll miss buying UGreen products. Top notch quality.

>>509981694
This is a genuine question - please don't take this as a standard "lol fuck you" /pol/ tone:
What does Brazil supply us that we can't supply ourselves?

>>509981775
Orange Coffee
And there must be other things.
But even if both sides replace everything, the US loses in the end. Because Brazil is one of the only countries on the planet that buys more than it sells from the US.
In theory, the US would lose $200 million at the end of the year, and politically it would also lose out because Brazil would further strengthen its ties with the Eurasian countries.

>>509980766
Nice life-like pic, diddler loving vaggot.

Chile seems pretty chill about those 50% copper tariffs, or at least they have not said anything so far has been getting through to anglophone media.

>>509982021
People like you deserve to live in predominantly black, inner-city, urban communities. You deserve to see your children attend the local public school as White minorities. You truly do deserve to impact with the reality your fucking retarded sentiment holds for the future of your country.
I hope you live long enough for the brown hordes you idolize to crash against your white picket fence, into your home, and into every orifice on your body.