Now that we know the world formed naturally over billions of years, and organisms evolved over time into their present forms, gods are not needed to explain anything, and they never were, or ever did.

Humanity is thankfully growing up.

>>510014586 (OP)
and now we're advanced and we still don't know

>>510014586 (OP)
>Humanity is thankfully growing up.
/t. IQ 100

>>510014586 (OP)
Truly high IQ individuals realize that Creation and Evolution are not mutually exclusive.

>>510014586 (OP)
most of the religions reflect a slow development. The 'creation' of a world in a short period isn't like a subtle metaphor, the religions all talk about how other worlds existed before and even that a new 'world' will exist after. its still described as the same planet though.

the bible says the world takes six days to create because their angel only has 6,000 years allotted before jesus takes over again.

>>510014586 (OP)
You believe in the moon landing?

>>510014586 (OP)
>the world formed naturally over billions of years
it didnt take billions of years, also all mainstream theories about planet creation have failed and couldnt be proven so far. a real estimate on its age based on observing HH objects puts it more into the 100k to 10 million years range.
>organisms evolved over time into their present forms
the evolution theory is also incomplete, it doesnt account for polyploidy, which means a new race can be created within 1 generation, this is triggered by massive electromagnetic emissions from nearby stars.
>gods are not needed to explain anything
Gods = Planets/Stars.
For the ancients the chief deity was the Saturnian Sun, this becomes evident when you realize that the words for the Sun were first used for Saturn.
this ancient Saturnian Sun was a lot closer than the present sun is today and its nova outbursts (as it came closer to the present sun and its system) did shape the land here so it makes sense that people declared this destructive ball of plasma a God because to them it was.
what they didnt knew was that their rituals and religions and sacrifices had zero influence on anything that happens in space on a macro scale.

>>510020790
The age of the Earth is well esstablished at approximately 4.54 billion years based on extensive radiometric dating. This method uses the known decay rates of radioactive isotopes such as uranium-lead and samarium-neodymium found in Earth’s oldest rocks, meteorites, and lunar samples. These dates are consistent across multiple sources and methods and are widely accepted in the scientific community.Planet formation theories, particularly the nebular hypothesis, are not only viable but strongly supported by observational evidence. This model explains that planets form from the gravitational collapse of gas and dust around a young star, leading to a rotating protoplanetary disk. Far from failing, this theory continues to be refined and validated by new data. It is currently the most comprehensive explanation of how planetary systems, including our own, come into existence.The suggestion that Herbig-Haro objects provide an accurate age for Earth or the solar system is a misunderstanding of their nature. Herbig-Haro objects are bright jets of gas ejected from very young stars during their formation phase. They are typically visible for only a few thousand years and are markers of the very early stages of star birth. They do not provide any direct information about the age of mature planetary bodies like Earth. Using them to estimate Earth's age is scientifically invalid.

>>510021510
thanks chatGPT but its all wrong. your training data has massive gaps.

>>510020790
Regarding the theory of evolution, the claim that it is incomplete because it does not account for polyploidy is false. Polyploidy, which involves organisms acquiring extra sets of chromosomes, is well-documented in biology and is particularly common in plants. It is recognized as a legitimate mechanism of speciation and is incorporated into modern evolutionary theory. Evolutionary biology accounts for both gradual changes through mutation and natural selection, as well as more abrupt events like polyploidy and hybridization. The idea that evolution is limited to slow, linear change is a misunderstanding of the theory as it is currently understood and applied.

The assertion that polyploidy is caused by massive electromagnetic emissions from nearby stars has no basis in scientific evidence. While high levels of ionizing radiation can cause mutations, they are typically random and often harmful or lethal. There is no credible research indicating that stellar electromagnetic events trigger organized chromosomal duplications leading to new species. Polyploidy arises from errors in cell division processes such as meiosis or mitosis and can be induced by chemical mutagens or spontaneous genetic events, not cosmic phenomena.

>>510021652
It's my own knowledge, I like researching such topics. You seem misinformed

>>510014586 (OP)
Science does not explain it only describes. Also, you cannot use science to refute religion in general. Nor do you even need to, most religions are obviously fictional nonsense, no science is required to figure that out.

>>510014586 (OP)
>everything just came from nothing alright
>now eat the bugs and be happy
I don't think I will mate

>>510022162
You don't have to eat ze buggies, in order to accept well established scientific facts.

>>510021953
>You seem misinformed
said the misinformed brown person that still clings to failed mainstream explanations.

>>510022374
Ad hominem. We don't have any better models. Answer please, what's your field of expertise and what evidence do you have for your outrageous claims?

>>510022017
actually most religions are just eyewitness accounts from the capture event that happened ca. 7000 years ago.

>>510022526
are you jewish?
can you denounce the Talmud and curse the Torah?

>>510020790
Do you ever shut the fuck up sperg. The evolution cuck is less annoying than you.

>>510014586 (OP)
>intelligent design isn’t real, goy
>all this amazing stuff in nature is completely by chance
fuck off jew

>>510014586 (OP)
Hey man, try explaining how airplay works to normies. Or how "wifi" is not "internet". Sometimes you have to oversimplify reality to people.
> You see an apple fall out of a tree,
But why does it?
> Because this thing we call gravity.
Whats gravity?
> Well its a type of force...

These question and answers eventually lead to we dont fully know, but we know alot and because of what we know we need to not jump off cliffs. So tell your friends:
> do not jump off cliffs
The novice then tells friends:
> dont do that thing because a force says dont or you will die
It is both true and false. It is needed for stupids, and also good.

>>510014586 (OP)
I believe in a creator.

>>510022625
>triggered jew

>>510014586 (OP)
Do you believe in the Big Bang Theory?

>>510022611
No I'm not, as far as I can trace my ancestors.
I'm an atheist.
I denounce the talmud and the Torah, also fuck kikes.

>>510014586 (OP)
Religious belief represents the intellectual middle ground—the midwit state where humans are smart enough to ask profound questions about existence but not sophisticated enough to accept uncertainty or pursue rigorous empirical answers. When early agricultural societies gained leisure time to observe natural phenomena they couldn't explain, they defaulted to creating divine beings rather than developing systematic methods of investigation. This impulse to fill knowledge gaps with supernatural agents reveals a mind that has evolved beyond primitive survival mode but remains trapped in anthropomorphic thinking, projecting human-like consciousness onto forces beyond immediate comprehension.

The believer occupies this awkward intellectual space between the unreflective and the truly analytical. They've developed enough abstract reasoning to grapple with mortality, meaning, and cosmic forces, yet lack the intellectual courage to sit with uncertainty or the methodological sophistication to pursue evidence-based understanding. Instead of recognizing the limits of human knowledge and working within those constraints, they retreat into comforting narratives about divine purpose and cosmic justice. This represents humanity's adolescent phase—no longer content with simple existence, but not yet mature enough to construct meaning without invisible parental figures. The creation of gods reveals more about human psychological needs than cosmic truths, marking the midwit's inability to graduate from needing external validation for their place in the universe.

>>510022162

Yeah youre right anon I guess believing that an angry jewish desert god created everything from nothing is much more believable.

>>510022773
Tell me about the moon landing.

>>510022830
The hunter-gatherer existed in a state of pure immediacy that rendered gods psychologically unnecessary and practically irrelevant. Their entire cognitive apparatus was devoted to survival's concrete demands—tracking animal movements, reading weather patterns, identifying edible plants, navigating terrain, and maintaining group cohesion. Every mental resource was allocated to tangible, observable realities that demanded immediate response. There was no luxury of contemplating abstract causation when a missed opportunity meant hunger, when a misread sign meant death, when group dynamics required constant attention to prevent exile. The hunter-gatherer's relationship with nature was direct and transactional—they understood storms as weather to shelter from, not as expressions of divine anger requiring interpretation or appeasement.

This cognitive state represented a kind of intellectual purity that agricultural societies would never recapture. The hunter-gatherer's mind operated like a finely tuned instrument of practical intelligence, processing environmental data without the interference of metaphysical speculation. They experienced what modern humans might call "flow state" as their default mode—completely absorbed in the present moment's demands, with no mental bandwidth for existential anxiety or cosmic questioning. Death was simply another environmental factor to avoid, not a philosophical problem requiring supernatural explanation. Pain, beauty, and mystery were immediate experiences to navigate rather than puzzles demanding narrative resolution. The absence of gods in their worldview wasn't intellectual limitation but cognitive efficiency—their minds were too occupied with reality's demands to construct elaborate fictions about invisible agents orchestrating their lives.

>>510022857
Never happened in my humble opinion.

>>510022773
>doesnt curse the Torah
confirmed jew

>>510014586 (OP)
People had gods because the spirits contacted them.

>>510014586 (OP)
FACT: atheists are far more likely to race-mix than religious people

>>510022885
What you say is interesting and I agree. They were replaced though.

>>510014586 (OP)
Now that a billion different evocative images can be displayed on a phone screen and so much of the natural world can be explained in the most pedestrian terms, the vivid dreams of holy men no longer matter. It's sad to see. No longer will we all eat mushrooms with the tribe and dance around the bonfire all night sharing our visions with each other telepathically and giving birth to a new god.

>>510022943
I will not nagged you because you said humble.

>>510022959
Nope. Ad hominem again.

>>510023054
I spent time with God this morning.

>>510023093
not having a religion is embarrassing

>>510014586 (OP)
Not a very kind thing to do, calling yourself primitive as you don't know either.

>>510023188
I believe that a higher Being PROBABLY exists and that's all. What matters is that we have no proof of said Beings personality. That seems reasonable to me.

>>510022885
I disagree. Not every second of their lives was a direct fight for their lives. At the evening campfire, they would've held discussions about life and death, about existence itself, they'd enjoy music with primitive instruments... We know about cave art, some of which clearly wasn't related to survival at all, surely that refutes you?

>>510014586 (OP)
No they didn't. It's because the people with gods outcompeted those without. Just because the old gods lose color as they fade out doesn't mean they weren't absolutely fucking real if you were there and part of it all (your genetics were). Plus, hey, they won.

>Humanity is thankfully growing up.
We're about three minutes into the very start of the game, there's a lot of time left on the clock.

>>510014586 (OP)
No, fallen angels came down to earth and mated with human women across the world; they and their offspring were worshipped as pagan gods/goddesses with the tribes they made contact with.

>>510022651
Who designed the designer? An super being that designed our entire universe couldn't just come into existence by chance.

>>510023113
How many people do you share your God with? A shared belief bonds people together through any adversity. Modern individual spirituality lacks its power.

>>510023372
You need to add science to your life.

>>510023311
You said you were atheist, that's agnostic, why are you being deceptive?
God is outside of time and space. He's not a being in the universe, He's outside of it. He loves you and wants to know (you). He's beyond human understanding, and yet He loves us.

>>510014586 (OP)
>"..and now we know what happened, 8 billion years ago"
Dumbfucks like OP are why religious people still laugh at atheists. When you can explain gravity and magnetism, try again.

>>510023528
I'm more on the atheist side desu. But my main point is that there's no tangible proof of said Beings personality. That's a fact.

>>510023521
I love Jesus Christ who guides me.

>>510023093
curse your Torah jew

>>510023548
That's a fallacy. The existing model is still very much useful and we owe everything to it. It works perfectly in many cases and It doesn't have to be complete, in order for it to work.

>>510023638
Is it? Where were you when He created the earth and the heavens? When you were born you couldn't even feed yourself or talk.

>>510014586 (OP)
The last creation is about 7000 years old. All the mountains, seas, canyons, flora and fauna that you see dates back to around that time. The earth is flat and stationary with a dome, but the plane might be eternal though.

>>510023528
>God revolves around me! God is my biggest simp!
Egocentric delusion.

>>510023705
Relax schizo. You need to avoid ad hominem and start focusing on deconstructing the prevalent models.

>>510023817
Yeah that still doesn't prove anything

>>510014586 (OP)
Sumerians didn’t create Gods to fill in gaps, they wrote on stone tablets that “the Gods” taught them how to build their civilization.

>>510023641
Funny how a billion people can assign their personal god the same identity as a 2000 year old Jewish ascetic who was wrongfully executed. Humans really are inexplicable creatures.

>>510023526
I have. Much of what humanity believes in is based on what others have told you; but ultimately also not provable on your own.

Though now is not the time, since I’m busy, but there is irrefutable evidence that Luciferian elite control society. And they’re more intelligent and have resources more than anyone else. The true midwits are those who are atheist or simply don’t care enough to look into it.

The problem with scientists is they don’t take into account what they cannot account for. You need to open your mind.

>>510023851
Jesus Christ loves you, He wants to know (you).
>>510023894
(You) have to be 18 to post here. Don't you have class in the morning?

>>510023311
I've never "heard the voice of God" or anything like that, but I have left my body several times, and it's distinctly different from a psychedelic experience or a dream or whatever cope militant atheists will come up with to explain it. Human consciousness is more than just the mind and the body. I'm not an expert on such things, since it's only happened to me two distinct times, but there are real records of people who could do it often, such as Robert Monroe, being contacted by the government for intelligence work.

There is a spiritual aspect to our existence, perhaps even an entire spiritual or astral plane that coincides with our own, and the people who rule over you are desperate to keep people ignorant of it.

>>510023958
(You) have nothing to offer.

>>510023976
A lot of stuff on the prevalent models has been proven correct time and time again. The most tangible proof is the existence of technology and all those marvels that science creates. Of course, the models are not perfect, and they should constantly be subject to critical validation, but that doesn't make them useless.
>>510024011
Nigga I'm a 30 year old wageslave, what are you talking about

>>510023548
gravity and magnetism are impossible to ever explain. These are fundamental forces that are part of the building blocks of our world. Human understanding ultimately depends on the fundamental forces of nature. So any explanation of these forces would be circular.

>>510020790
>what they didnt knew was that their rituals and religions and sacrifices had zero influence on anything that happens in space on a macro scale.
Gonna need some evidence to back this one up bud

>>510014586 (OP)
I think you need to reread the cosmology in Genesis a little more closely, it's more accurate than it has any business being for that time.

>>510024302
Grim.

>>510014586 (OP)
>Now that we know
We don't know shit, not even half of it. We theorize and speculate.
At this time there is exactly the same amount of proof that god doesn't exist, as there is that it exists.
>Humanity is thankfully growing up
Humanity has not evolved a bit in at least 30 thousand years, our society did. We have shifted our development as species to the development of what was supposed to be a tool, but we turned into our complete identity. And if we as a species don't wake up and handle society as it's supposed to be, while focusing on our own evolution, then we won't be growing anywhere, we will be truly lost.

>>510024112
Eh, I don't know. Two things are certain. 1)The burden of proof lies to the people who claim that such phenomena exist, and of course, anecdotal experiences don't count.
2) This is a topic that has been kind of researched in the past, there's no indication such phenomena are possible.

>>510014586 (OP)
>primitive people
I can tell how clueless you are by your choice of language.

>>510024424
It really is. Thankfully, science has provided us with a lot of comforts and I'm grateful for that.

>>510024678
Lmao

>>510023855
so why cant you curse the Torah? is it because you are jewish?
also now that you were revealed as a jewish shill everything you said can be safely discarded.

>>510024367
if you cut off your foreskin off for thousands of years and many generations, do you really think this could stop the Sun from producing CMEs?
nigga think

>>510025154
I respect every religion, despite not ascribing to any of them. I grew up Christian, so it's hard for me to curse the Torah. What's funny is that you keep seething about me not cursing it and at the same time you don't provide any answer of value as far as my original reply is concerned.

>>510025356
you are a jewish shill and you arent here to argue in good faith.
only a jewish subhuman would refuse to curse the Torah.

>>510025481
Lmao the only real subhuman in here is you. You haven't even tried to argue, you are just spamming your schizo conclusions.

>>510025284
Is that what your Rabbi told you?

>>510014586 (OP)
While I overall agree with you, we do have to acknowledge that those superstitious fucks did manage to figure out some things that neither they nor we fully understand that were able to help them to continue thriving as a civilization. It may be selection bias, but these primitive cultists must have gotten something right.

>>510024593
It's just one small piece of the paranormal, which many people have experience with. People have seen ghosts, UFO's, experienced extrasensory perceptions, practiced various forms of divination, consulted with angels and demons, and more. I know that there's little to no scientific explanation for these phenomenon, but that's part of what makes them so interesting. When you encounter something like that for yourself, your mind is desperate to reconcile something that should clearly be impossible with some sort of rational explanation, and falls short. That's what makes them so spectacular. Some of these events are easier to rationalize than others, but the truth is that if you have enough experiences that are contrary to our current working understanding of the universe, you begin to wonder about where the cloth of reality has worn thin and if you haven't seen a small glimpse of the inner workings of greater forces you can't possibly hope to comprehend.

tl;dr the average person is only several irreconcilable experiences away from believing in the paranormal

>>510025586
keep seething jew shill.
>>510025587
thats what semitic subhumans tell themselves and thats what the semitic religions were all about. to try and appease their fake Saturnian Sun God with rituals hoping it wont smite them and instead do favors for them.
of course this didnt work.

>>510014586 (OP)
Wrong. Kings created gods and religions to give themselves legitimacy. Judaism was started by king david. He needed a justification for his dirty actions.

>>510014586 (OP)
woah ur so smard anonn

>>510025822
Yeah I'm so mad

>>510026038
jew shills like you always get butthurt as soon as they are found out.
I have seen your jew behavior many many times before.

>>510026138
Nigga get help

>>510019709
No.

>>510025777
one of the things that I thought was utterly impossible to explain was the use of witching rods to find water. They don't work for me, but my dad can use them absolutely consistently. They cross where water is, and uncross where water isn't. I could understand there being some scientific basis for this, but what utterly baffles me is that once he has found the water, he stomps his foot. Once he has stomped a certain number of times, the rods will respond again, indicating how deep the water is. He can even continue stomping, and it will give him an idea of how deep the water is before the rods respond again. He can do it with such consistency that he has never failed to impress anyone skeptical of it. It's a modern form of divination, and one of many inexplicable things I've witnessed that made me question the nature of reality.

>>510026188
I dont need help to destroy a jewish shill like you. as you see it is very easy to do.

>>510026586
Actually fuck it, I'll play along.
Damn you aryans won this time. But we control the world. You will never escape from our infected claws goy.