Can you idolize both Ancient Greco Roman culture and Germanic culture at the same time? This has always baffled me.

>>510026124 (OP)
Its no battle.
Greco Roman antiquity
Celto Germanic middle ages

Synthesis of Western civilization.

Heil Hitler.
Der Antike is die Würzeln unseres Weltanschauung.

>>510026638
The Germanics were the ones who destroyed Classical civilization tho.

My point is that it’s two different civilizations, Classical vs Faustian, with two different goals

>>510027171
Classical civilization was spiritually dead by the time of the Germanic migrations. the ossification of wealth and power within the Roman Empire, nonwhite migrations to Latium and the rise of various foreign cults, culminating in Christianity, had weakened Rome

>>510027916
Even during the height of Classical civilization Germanics and Greco Romans would have still have completely different worldviews. Something like the volkshalle would have been completely foreign to the Germanics, and not just because they were ancients. Modern Scandinavian cities would have been more familiar to the ancient Germanics, with the emphasis on practicality and minimalism.

>>510027171
The seed of Greco Roman antiquity passed on to the Germanic herrenvolke.

From one Aryan race to the next.

Hitler said it best.
The Classical loves light. And Germany is the product of light.

I have yet to meet Scandinavians who care for neo-classical architecture.
With the exception of the Celtic American South, where there was a concsious effort of mimicking Rome, most neo classical enjoyers are Meditterean/South American.

This is not to say that neo classical architecture sucks, but I just don’t get Hitler’s obsession with it when it doesn’t reflect Germanic character or history. It is a reflection of Mediterranean history.

>>510026124 (OP)
germanic culture is just larping as the successors of the romans and totally not the barbies

>>510029066
GOEBBELS: (𝟴th of April 𝟭𝟵𝟰𝟭)
"The Führer forbids a bombardment of Athens. This is right and noble of him. Rome and Athens are Mecca for him. He very much regrets having to fight the Greeks. […] The Führer is a man completely oriented towards antiquity. He hates Christianity because it has crippled all noble humanity. According to Schopenhauer, Christianity and syphilis have made mankind unhappy and unfree. What a difference between a benevolent and wise smiling Zeus and a pain-distorted crucified Christ. Even the view of God itself is much more noble and human among the ancient peoples than in Christianity. What a difference between a gloomy cathedral and a bright, free ancient temple. He describes life in ancient Rome: clarity, grandeur, monumentality. The greatest republic in history. We would probably not experience any disappointment, he thinks, if we were now suddenly transported to this ancient eternal city. The Führer has no relationship at all with the Gothic. He hates the gloom and the blurred mysticism. He wants clarity, brightness, beauty. This is also the life ideal of our time. There the leader is a completely modern man." [1]

ROSENBERG: (𝟵th of April 𝟭𝟵𝟰𝟭)
"The Führer says he is sorry to have to fight against the Greeks, for there is still a memory of the old Hellenic civilization hovering in his mind. Never will a bomb be dropped on Athens! In the context of assessing the superb Augustan exhibition in Rome, the Führer spoke admiringly of this ancient Rome. Apart from a few things related to steel and iron, we have not progressed much further, he said. In terms of sanitation, Rome was far ahead of us. Even in decline it was still magnificent, and one can understand that the young Teutons were overwhelmed by the sight of it. And in the end, each era shapes its God in accordance with its nature. If one looks at the majestic head of Zeus-Jupiter and then at the agonized Christ, only then does one appreciate the complete difference. How free and lighthearted the ancient world seems in contrast to the Inquisition, the burnings of witches and heretics. Only since 200 years ago did people begin to breathe somewhat easily again. It is certainly (following Schopenhauer?) correct that the ancient world was unacquainted with two evils: Christianity and syphilis" [2]

>>510028698
>Something like the volkshalle would have been completely foreign to the Germanics
yes. but the Volkshalle is uniquely Hitler's idea - as he was, let's say, very ambitious. it's not inherently Classical, even though the choice of Neoclassical achitecture might create that impression.
the Volkshalle also captures the imagination more strongly than the Thingstätten, which were actually built. now, they usually resemble ancient amphitheaters, but things are quintessentially Germanic

>>510030740
my point is basically that the gathering itself is what matters, not the architecture of the gathering place

>>510030740
Lets pretend the Prussian state wasnt built around Dorian-Roman ideas.

>>510026124 (OP)
that's greko-roman tard

>>510027916
That’s completely wrong since the Eastern Roman Empire was doing fine

>>510027171
Germanics were the final nail in the coffin
But between jews and just general corruption, Rome was already a rotten out husk.

Idolizing Greco-Roman/Classical culture is practically part of Germanic/Faustian/Western culture lol

>>510026124 (OP)
All the western countries of today are continuations of the roman empire. This includes the USA too.

>>510030881
post proof. alternatively, post your sarrabulho recipe
>>510030967
it was NOT doing fine. endlessly thowing yourself against the Persians only to lose the region to your former Arab protectorates once you're bled out is a pretty bad symptom of decline

>>510031201
Oswald Spengler
Preußentum und Romanentum.

The fucking Brandenburgtor being Dorian.

Are you dumb?

>>510026124 (OP)
Germanic things are soulless, they were viewed as barbarians, and still are, for a reason.

>>510030792
This is actually a fair argument. I hadn’t even thought about Thingstattens.

As I said neo classical architecture and desig is great and all but I also admire the simplicity and practicality and clean look of Nordic cities and homes. Some Germanic romanticists forget the importance of the simplicity that their ancestors had, and I think modern Scandinavians still carry that mindset despite their liberal views.

>all the seething mednigger who not know that the roman empire was at some point germanic dominated

>>510032465
The Roman empire was never Germanic dominated.

The Latins were originally Urnfield Aryans like the Germanics.

The Germanic foederati helped carry the empire for one century.

Men like Stilicho and Aetius. Without those Germanic foederati the Romans would have fallen much sooner.

>>510031201
>it was not doing fine for nearly a millenium
you're a retard

>>510032797
Beyond Justinian what was that Byzantine Judaic experiment?

Uh?

>>510029066
Scandinavians are Western adjacent but aren’t really Western, like Poles, Hungarians, and to a certain extent Eastern Slavs.

The West = North Pacific to the Vistula. Not everybody living within those borders is core Western. Southern Italians aren’t core Western either.

>>510032095
>but I also admire the simplicity and practicality and clean look of Nordic cities and homes
well, we do require modern architecture for urban areas because our settlement patterns and construction materials have changed. but styles like brick expressionism seen in Fritz Höger's and Fritz Schumacher's buildings are very simple without eschewing ornament like Bauhaus does
>Some Germanic romanticists forget the importance of the simplicity that their ancestors had
yep. the millennia-long LARPing as Rome had its mark on German intellectuals

>>510027171
>Classical vs Faustian
What? Faustian is a spirit shared between all aryans, not the name of a specific period in time.

>>510033035
>had its mark
*left its mark

>>510026124 (OP)
You can simultaneously admire both, but not "idolize" both, just like a neoclassical painter cannot be a romantic one without betraying himself, even if he admires Delacroix.

>>510026124 (OP)
German outgoats everything else: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pdd_WOkeDTg

>>510026124 (OP)
Fuck g*rms
Fuck greeks
Fuck INDO-"europeans" (literal pajeets from india)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKDXIYeXBqw&

>>510034317
whenever I see a fingolian flag I check whether the poster has a basic level of intelligence. if he does, he's a Fennoswede. this one ain't