One of the reasons America is a failed society

>>510077359 (OP)
Instead of all these renovations we could just halve the population and solve more than half our problems

>>510077359 (OP)
The thing you euros fail to understand is that the last half century of internal American economics and politics is driven almost singularly by a single objective: to make enough money to move out of nigger infested cities into the all white burbs and have a nice car for commuting. Civil rights movement removed the freedom of association, so now American life revolves around this metagame to avoid getting stabbed by homeless crack addicts. Very few admit this freely but we're all playing that game. American cities will never be livable.

>>510077430
why not just both?

>>510077359 (OP)
>no protected bikelane
>lanes sacrificed for meaninglessly large pavement
Who the fuck designed this abomination?

>>510077359 (OP)
I don't disagree with bikefags on any of their policy positions, I just think they're insufferable faggots.

>>510077359 (OP)
>1000 bicycles per hour
Yet you never see a single bicycle using these lanes.
>Pedestrian capacity increased from 9000 to 16000
Really, was the footpath with a capacity of 9000 per hour already at its limit? Who are these people performing 216k pedestrian journeys within a 24 hour window? And, who are the people who will take an additional 168k pedestrian journeys once the extra footpaths are created? Further, is the city really better off if everyone is taking an hour to walk the distance of a 10 minute drive? That's a 2 hour round trip out of your day rather than 20 minutes of driving... is the 80 minutes of walking free?

In reality, the same cars use the road, but they go slower because of the increased traffic, meaning more pollution and fuel and time costs. No extra cyclists, no extra pedestrians, but the few who fit into this category and enjoy an expensive luxury. The bus is there and it takes a few unemployed people, but it's never at capacity.

>bus lane
Into the trash it goes.

>>510077359 (OP)
yes, three busses a minute
great math

>>510077359 (OP)
Bike riders aren't people.

>>510077728
Sounds very American
>instead of solving our problems let's cut corners in the false belief that things will change
True we're all playing that game now

>>510078005
I've never been in a car with someone without them joking about running over a cyclist.

>>510077359 (OP)
>public transit
Like walkable cities, basically just a Trojan horse to force White people to be in proximity to niggers so they can get robbed and killed. Sprawl and cars are necessary evils. I will take the subway when there are no more niggers.

I would not mind bicycles if they were completely physically segregated to dedicated lanes like pedestrians are and were severely punished for breaking traffic laws.

>>510077359 (OP)
I work full-time specifically so that I would never need to ride the bus. Anyone who is against a person owning a car is 110% a communist.

>>510077359 (OP)
How does the bus turn right?
How do the bikes turn left?
How does the car not run over both of them?
If the people walking around all come on the bus, and the bus has to wait for the bikes, and the car has to wait for both, you have just cut travel capacity by 2/3.

We have streets like this in the UK. Let me tell you how they go
That cycle lane? It's a car park.
Oh is that a dedicated bus lane? How quaint that's going to mostly be full of ubers who keep stopping because they're unloading or offloading passengers with no concern for other road users. Also its a car park.

Also it's one way. Why is it one way?

>>510077359 (OP)
Irony is reducing an economy and society to math is what communism does

>>510078315
Even better
>x-walk intersection
>16,000 people/h
>4 ways
>4,000/h
Say a light cycle time of 3 mins
>200 people waiting to cross the street at all times
>on each side

>>510079740
But where are they walking to??? And where are they walking from???? In theory, an open field in the middle of nowhere has enormous pedestrian capacity.

>>510079159
This is the actual truth. They know what they're doing. Same reason they ship somalians and other subhumans into tiny, sleepy villages in the UK. There are no jobs in these villages, so the aim is clearly something else.

>>510077359 (OP)
Buses are unfortunately necessary but bicycle lanes are an abomination. Cyclists and cyclism is a disease.

>>510079785
Clearly they are talking the 84 miles to the industrial oil refinery out of town
Naw jk, they are going for a onions late with boba

>>510078247

>>510077359 (OP)
The idea of supporting more buses and bikes is good but I don't think this layout is the best way to do it.
Bus lanes shouldn't be put everywhere and I think the ideal bike network doesn't overlap with the road network much.

>>510079862
true. Good on paper, but dogshit in practice

>>510077359 (OP)
Only subhumans would ride busses when self driving cars exist. Soulless bugs that don't feel the natural human need for personal space and individual freedom, and instead are content swarming over each other like termites.

>"multimodal equation" forgets to factor the constant: NIGGERS

>>510079740
pedestrian scrambles are cool

>>510078045
objectively false.

you have questions, sure. you have done nothing to try to find the answers to them. instead you just sit there and complain, and your complaints are wrong.

no, i will not elaborate further.

>>510077359 (OP)
>cut cars to a 1/3rd
>only double total capacity.
Leftists don’t realize the applications of a car: If I want to go somewhere and not have my stuff stolen, I need a car.
The people riding bikes will have thier bike stolen.
The people on the bus cannot take more than an armful of shopping with them.
Then theres the added complication and cost of the right side. Stupid hippy leftist twattery.

If they really want innovation, they’d deregulate and let the free market sort it. Trams and busses started as free enterprise, and where installed where they were needed.

>>510079740
That's a rat veritable race, and only works in Japan because of their Bushido discipline... Just wait 'til their nigger and poojeet count starts increasing over the coming years--how their catastrophic system collapse will make Sweden look like a multicultural utopia.

>civilisation does cannot commune with those who could never create civilisation themselves

>>510077728
>Civil rights movement removed the freedom of association,
Yep, retarded commie legislation. If I were black and refused a job on that basis, id rather be told I’m a nigger and to fuck off, than have some fake hr excuse.

>>510077952
A leftist idiot.

>>510080202
Canada has 4 people per square km.
Only 11% of the land is available for private residence.

This seems very important.

>>510080157
No one steals in the busses around here.

>>510077359 (OP)
Retarded burgers can't into complex roadsigns.

>>510077359 (OP)
>one way 3 lane road with parking on both sides
Retarded at start
>"multimodal" has no parking and somehow has 2 bike lanes
>yeah 16,000 people walk this sidewalk every hour
Fucking retarded

>>510077359 (OP)
>Just have 6000 buses bro
You're retarded. Kys

>>510077359 (OP)

The unlicenced jeets will happily use the bike lane for their uber.

>>510077430
You first

If buses and trains are so great why is china building more roads and cars than railways and buses

>>510077359 (OP)
This can easily be countered with
>Niggers
>Junkies
>Hobos
It's not a question of math, it's a question of demographics

>>510077359 (OP)
the city where i live decided to try this after the mayor went to some conference in europe. they spent hundreds of millions reconfiguring the 2 square mile downtown and main streets feeding the area. guess which racial demographic managed to turn it into a complete clusterfuck nightmare. this is the same city that decided to tear down a functioning community center to build an "urban garden" in the middle of the ghetto.

>>510077359 (OP)
bikes and walking get shilled a lot for being efficient, but no one wants to walk and bike in the summer heat.
especially the southern parts of the US

bad word salad
>>510078045
I'm inclined to agree with you that the pedestrian number is too high. 9000peds/hr and 16000peds/hr translates to 2.5peds/s and 4.5 peds/s which is achieved in only some urban areas. I think 0.1ped/s covers 90% of non-residential greater london. (i.e. main roads and above) So 360.
The bike number is also quite high. 1000 bikes an hour translates 15bk/min. This is achieved in Central london, but in greater London I'd put down 0.2bk/min. So 30.
Bus count I think is also a tad high. A double decker can carry 90 people (on average they're operating at 40% capacity) and there's one passing every 3 mins. So it's about 600.
This undermines the OP pic. Thus I can only support this scheme in those high traffic urban areas, not the entirety of non-residential greater london.

But I'd argue you are still understimating how many people would use the bus or bike.
>who are the people who will take more pedestrian journeys
people using public transport/rental bikes/scooters

>>510077359 (OP)

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>>510077359 (OP)
And the bike lane is bidirectional? Riding against the direction of the car lane is pure horror. I hate it.

>>510077359 (OP)
Yeah waste more space for literally 4 retards on bikes

>>510081601
yes, this is retarded

Sacramento Ca spent a lot of money to reimagine their streets. Bike lanes, lanes dedicated for busses and turn restrictions. It was found to slow and delay passenger vehicle traffic.
Which is the intention. They want to make it more inconvenient to drive to force people into busses and onto bicycles. Gasoline taxes are also used to disincentivize people from using personal cars.
The city leaders in Sacramento Ca used tax payer money to intentionally inconvenience the local tax payers to direct them towards using mass transit more.

>>510078575
Solving the problem would mean bringing in extreme racism. This would happen without the stranglehold jews have on power.

>>510077359 (OP)
you cant talk to country that more ric that they are "failed" only reason EU suckers have money is cuz they dont defend themselves and spend money for all of this normie shit

>>510077359 (OP)
we got those, they are wasting a lane for a bus that passes every half an hour all while all hell breaks lose in the car lane, sometimes you build it but they don't come.

>>510077359 (OP)
euros are starting to figure out why americans don't use public transportation. darkies ruin everything.

>>510077359 (OP)
>let us starve you
no.

>>510081601
contraflow bike lanes are nice. Bike lanes take up very little space so I don't see why you shouldn't give cyclists a little more freedom to go the other way on some one way routes. Only if it's a slow street that isn't already cramped though.
Perhaps if they become very popular they'd need to be closed to preserve the order of the road network.

>>510077359 (OP)
American here.
I will simply never take a bus. Ever.
You can't make me.

>>510077359 (OP)
What's the point of this diagram when niggers will still drive in the bike lanes?

Also nice job nuking parking spots. Now nobody can park.
>Just take the bus/subway and get stabbed by a homeless druggie!
Dumb as fuck

>>510077359 (OP)
they dont want you to have a car and be free, they want you to live in literally "jail" where you cant do anything, you cant go anywhere and you cant even go outside because the mass migration europe is supporting is giant danger where you get attacked, stabbed, raped, killed. They want you vulnerable, they want you dead.

>>510077952
What's the difference between a protected bike lane and the red one on the right which looks to be exclusive for bikes?
There's no lanes sacrificed for the larger pavement but parking space which isn't needed with less cars around.

>>510077359 (OP)
I'll just park my car in the middle of the street if I have to. I have done it before, I'll do it again.

>>510079458
Oy Vey that's anti semitic anon!

>>510077359 (OP)
Every time there is traffic there is a high chance that some idiot driver is causing it.
In fact, very often I come across drivers who drive extremely slow, or have caused a stupid accident, or speak to their phone, or they are unfit to drive.

Also, these drivers most of the time belong to very certain groups of people....

Im all for bikes and buses having more space but people with cars cant take any more abuse.

>>510077430

/thread

also kill jews
boot orc inc mik wop
sell feminists to india
girls in harems and force abort

>>510080049

MATH motherfucker!!

do u speak it!


economics class: oh thats and externality!
lol

>>510079543
>Also it's one way. Why is it one way?
So that cars spend more time finding their way into the main arteries. The volume of people trying to move remains the same in any case, alleviating congestion means slowing down the flow into busy arteries, if the secondary network is too efficient it congests the main network.

>>510080049

multi groad al equation

new plan:

whites here


non whites inc jew irish italian very far from here --jews dead

>>510077359 (OP)
When the fuck has a bus ever been at full capacity?

>>510077359 (OP)
>In one day I have to go from my house, to my kids school, to work, to the grocery store, and back home
>5-6 hours of walking
>2-4 hours of train time, provided the trains are running well and the routes hit all my stops
>1 hour or so of driving to hit all the same destinations while getting to enjoy my AC, not deal with other people, and be comfortable

All anti-car posting is poorfag cope, and that alone

>>510077359 (OP)

>>510084517
>>510084621

>>510084526
Ignoring that, the fuck is going to happen when you need any emergency service going through that? There's literally nowhere to pull over into other than the bike lane.

>>510084643
Anywhere not India.

>>510077359 (OP)
This assumes there are 1000+ cyclists commuting, that would also have their bikes stolen by niggers and homeless junkies while they work.
This is more appropriate in Asia where half the bugmen ride bikes and mopeds.

>>510082918
>What's the difference between a protected bike lane and the red one on the right which looks to be exclusive for bikes?
Anon, that lane is green...
Colourblind bro...
Anyway actual answer, having a barrier between the road and the bikes so cars can't fatfuck their way into the lane or think it's space for them/waaaay less accidents
Also keeps the cyclists from getting uppity, I see faggot bikers here that refuse to use the bike lanes because 'waaah there are wittle stones and gwavel there' and ride in the middle of the road instead. Should be legal to run them down in minecraft at that point.

>>510077359 (OP)
They're doing that here, it's absolute cancer. I hate it. I fucking hate progressive goobers and their green city utopia bullshit. All it does is make these cities unlivable and drive people away from them.

>>510084652
Helicopters.
Anything else is poorfag cope.

>>510084833
>having a barrier between the road and the bikes so cars can't fatfuck their way into the lane or think it's space for them/waaaay less accidents
Oh, didn't know this was a thing. Where I live they're usually like shown but non-exclusive or they're entirely separate often even a few m apart.
So yeah protected would probably be better.
>Anon, that lane is green...
Oops....

>>510077359 (OP)
Care to explain how a sidewalk with the same minimal width can suddenly be used by double as many people?

>>510085473
>more ppl walk because of congested traffic
>ppl get fit
>more ppl fit in the same square space

i know, its fucking rocket science for you mutts