Ancient Roman genetics - /pol/ (#510084294) [Archived: 502 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: UciTT90vFrance
7/11/2025, 1:24:29 PM No.510084294
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It appears that ancient Romans and Etruscans clustered with present day Spaniards more than they did with modern Italians.
The reason for that is that present day Italians received a large amount of near eastern DNA, which means that modern Italians are not really Europeans but halfway between Europe and the Levant. Southern Italians are in fact closer genetically to Lebanese than to even other southern Europeans. Meanwhile Spaniards even in spite of the muslim invasion remained largely the same genetically hence why they are closer.
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Anonymous ID: 1o0Grpg9United States
7/11/2025, 1:33:21 PM No.510084667
This phenotype shit is just modern day phrenology

You scored 950 on your sat because you are a retard not because of the Jews
Anonymous ID: dQ3a9ZiYRomania
7/11/2025, 1:40:22 PM No.510085003
>>510084294 (OP)
What would you know? If you're an actual Frenchman, you migrated with the Frankish Goths into Celtic territories previously civilized by Romans.
If you're a modern Frenchman, you're probably a North African and more related to Italians than to French.
Rome was a cultural empire.
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Anonymous ID: UciTT90vFrance
7/11/2025, 1:46:40 PM No.510085313
>>510085003
cope.
Anonymous ID: D6hxiSUnPoland
7/11/2025, 1:55:48 PM No.510085762
>>510084294 (OP)
>55%
so toss of a coin probability?
how the fuck it does determine anything
I would say something might be meaningful at 10-90% split, 20-80% even
50% is like light and dark hair groups
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Anonymous ID: z17RAMdIFinland
7/11/2025, 1:57:18 PM No.510085831
>>510084294 (OP)
ah ancient romans, first golems to ever walked on earth
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Anonymous ID: PvpeY88mItaly
7/11/2025, 2:01:58 PM No.510086059
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the similarity is somewhat accidental, Republican era Spaniards were not like all modern Spaniards but Basque-like
but if you take Basques and add a bit of eastern med ancestry you do get something vaguely Republican_IA
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Anonymous ID: wGCrClPbUnited States
7/11/2025, 2:03:08 PM No.510086117
>>510085003
Roma was a city, a culture, a people, a republic and eventually an empire.
Who were the Roma matters a lot. It even affect the name of your country.

You are just a moron who does not know history, biology, or much about anything from the sound of it.

btw, the French include Celts (Gascony, and Brittany), Germanics (Burgundians and as you stated Goths), Nordics (Normans) Friesians (Picardians), Roman (Savoys and other Occitans) and others, including down stream Swiss, Northern Basque and Catalan.
Your simplification is pathetic.
Anonymous ID: UciTT90vFrance
7/11/2025, 2:03:39 PM No.510086140
>>510085762
It's not about probability, it says that about 55% of the Etruscan ancestry came from the EEF, the neolithic farmers.
Anonymous ID: UciTT90vFrance
7/11/2025, 2:06:49 PM No.510086305
>>510086059
We have plenty of Celtic samples that cluster with modern Spaniards too. I doubt these Basque-like samples paint the whole picture of pre roman Iberia, it is not sufficient to explain how modern Spaniards are what they are today.
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Anonymous ID: PvpeY88mItaly
7/11/2025, 2:08:20 PM No.510086382
>>510086305
if you start taking subpopulations it gets more complicated, north Italians are also closer to Picenes if you want to go there than Tyrrhenian populations
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Anonymous ID: UciTT90vFrance
7/11/2025, 2:17:25 PM No.510086886
>>510086382
The Picenes were not Italics. They were probably somewhat related to other adriatic population like the Messapians.
Adriatic IA Italy are overall much more similar to modern Italians than Italics, Etruscans and Celts were.
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Anonymous ID: Bhk8TA1aAustralia
7/11/2025, 2:19:02 PM No.510086970
FST - Italians are over 5 times closer to Danes and Brits than they are to North Africans
>>510084294 (OP)
>The reason for that is that present day Italians received a large amount of near eastern DNA, which means that modern Italians are not really Europeans but halfway between Europe and the Levant. Southern Italians are in fact closer genetically to Lebanese than to even other southern Europeans.
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Anonymous ID: PvpeY88mItaly
7/11/2025, 2:19:22 PM No.510086988
>>510086886
Picenes were Osco-Umbrians of course they were Italics
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Anonymous ID: Bhk8TA1aAustralia
7/11/2025, 2:19:47 PM No.510087009
Italy - Sicilian
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>>510086970
Interesting how the only studies making up claims that Italians are crypto-semites are the politically aligned ones.
Anonymous ID: UciTT90vFrance
7/11/2025, 2:20:47 PM No.510087077
>>510086988
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Picene_language
>Language family : unclassified
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Anonymous ID: PvpeY88mItaly
7/11/2025, 2:23:16 PM No.510087212
>>510087077
and south Picene, the more attested one, is, you are special pleading
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Anonymous ID: zXf833w1Spain
7/11/2025, 2:24:33 PM No.510087275
>>510085831
Ah modern Finnish, the oldest golems "to ever walked" walked on earth.
Anonymous ID: UciTT90vFrance
7/11/2025, 2:29:48 PM No.510087561
>>510087212
Most of the samples we have come from the northern half if I am not wrong. The south picenes could have just taken up the language by contact with actual Italics without being like them genetically.
Anonymous ID: QD3U2lycSlovenia
7/11/2025, 2:38:06 PM No.510088030
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>>510084294 (OP)
Hello brownoids. I would just like to remind everyone that if you don't have blue eyes and light hair you are in fact NOT White/European. T50s need not apply. And no, your eyes are not "hazel".
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Anonymous ID: UciTT90vFrance
7/11/2025, 2:40:52 PM No.510088173
>>510088030
Say who.
Anonymous ID: UciTT90vFrance
7/11/2025, 3:23:18 PM No.510090477
bump