Why did the Russians do so bad in Ukraine? Ukraine wasn’t even at the level of 1991 Iraq military competence wise and there was Russian infiltrators all through the country. They should have literally pulled it off in 3 days. It’s one thing to be fighting an insurgency but there is no excuse for a modern super power to struggle to project force like they did and continue to do.

>>510089181 (OP)
Their decapitation operation failed and so they got pulled into a meat grinder against a semi-competent opponent with near unlimited NATO backing.

>>510089181 (OP)
???? Bad? It's not my fault you're too stupid to invest in RTX

>>510089181 (OP)
If they're doing so bad, why did we waste 200 billion dollars in Ukraine?

>>510089181 (OP)
Self-overestimation.
The FSB's assessment was clear: Ukraine would not put up any significant resistance. Otherwise, you don't pull off a suicide mission and send all your special forces into a cauldron in enemy territory next to the capital without supplies and ground support.
They really thought they'd just drive through.

Of course you'll get fucked.
The saying never gets old: “We're so fucking lucky the Russians are so fucking stupid.”
Kek

>>510089374
If they aren't doing badly then how was it a waste?

>>510089181 (OP)
cool worm guys post more

To destroy Russia's entire USSR stockpile without a single shot of its own. And almost exclusive access to the largest gas sales market (2x larger than China) in the world, paying 2.5x higher prices to Russia than before.
Is it worth it for the USA? Definitely, just get 25% of the gas profits paid out in taxes and you'll have the money back in your pocket.

>>510089374
>>510089734

>>510089734
This.

>>510089181 (OP)
Russians won over the NATO / US / UK and hohols army.
Russian army is now the most war ready army in the world.
>it took a year to retrain, restart manufacturing
>manufacture in mass the most advanced drones , rockets and airplanes.

Russian army is now bombing Kiev as we speak, and Kiev has no air defenses.
>completely eliminated by the russian army
>including Patriot batteries

It is literally over for hohols right now, and NATO completely lost to Russia in Ukriane.

>you were warned many times on pol faggots

>>510090401
After winning in Slovenia, Slovakia, the Czech Republic, Poland, Romania, Bulgaria, Albania, North Macedonia, Hungary, Croatia, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Sweden and Finland.
The Russians no longer have a land route to Kalinengrad, access to neutral Austria and the Balkans is prevented.

Ukraine. Good. We wouldn't have been able to do anything with Donbass anyway - it's just inhabited by Russians. They can have it.
A million dead and wounded, 23% interest rate, total dependence on China - which Russia must fear more than Gayropa.

So yes. You can also look at it differently. Especially from the comfort of your sofa. Kek

>>510089393
>Ukraine would not put up any significant resistance
They didn't.

But never ever in the history of war, has a whole army positioned themselves on an attack formation 45km long and 2m wide.

>>510089689
I believe they are Quars from wargames Atlantic not ww1 game

>>510091027
You are delusional, Kraut.

>>510089181 (OP)
>Ukraine wasn’t even at the level of 1991 Iraq military competence wise
Ukraine was highly militarized and building up. It had all its Soviet stockpiles along with NATO equipment and training for years. Russia's ROE were to not turn the Ukraine into Iraq or Gaza. And yet despite these limitations, the Ukraine is still a ruined country. You can't name another country that has been ruined as badly in a recent conflict other than maybe Syria or Libya. The Ukraine is another failed state causality of the state department. But given Ukraine's status as a post-2nd world country, that was a much more hefty beating.

>>510091137
Don't tell me how the war went. The famous column was formed two weeks after the start of the war when the dynamic attack on Kiev in Irpin failed in the first 11 days. Russia had to withdraw. The column was a threatening gesture because talks were taking place in Belarus at the time.
In his first term, Trump managed to deliver large quantities of javelins to Ukraine. Russia was completely overwhelmed by the quantity - the Ukrainians' determination to fight and enough javelins to bring Russia's mobile war to a standstill.

Save your fanboy bullshit for the likes of you.

>>510091356
My grandparents lost the biggest criminal war in the world and yet krauts live much better and more prosperously than the victors.
It takes a lot to be so fooled by history.

>>510089181 (OP)
>because NATO is helping them

but then later they say

>NATO is weak and pathetic

So, I really haven't a fucking clue.

>>510091505
>Soviet stockpiles
Those numbers are basically speculative. What % of those soviet tanks was combat ready or even functional? A quarter? Less? Literally everyone who paid attention to the early days of the war is aware that the deciding factor were javelins that made small infantry groups a threat to russian armor.

Because they didn't take the war seriously and don't have the benefit of hindsight future historians will have. Every war in history has been a gamble to some extent.