Marx wrote over 3000 pages of material meant for you to freely read. Can you point to a single page where he is "bad"?

>>510098967 (OP)
I don't like his beard. He looks smelly

>>510098967 (OP)
Utopian idealists like Marx always conveniently assume that the state won't be corrupted owing to the tenets of the ideology it is meant to embody. This hasn't proven true ONCE in history.

>>510098967 (OP)
>>leaf
I hope and pray that your throat is slit from ear to ear, Sukdeep.

>>510098967 (OP)
He openly said he wanted to "destroy the family".
He wanted everyone to become genetic slopmutts with allegiance to the state.
That's the communism that "sounds good on paper".

>>510098967 (OP)
DIDN'T WORK A DAY IN HIS LIFE, LOL

tabula rasa is bullshit
race is real, sex is real

>>510098967 (OP)
No because I haven't read a single page. He looks like a monkey.

>>510099098
But you can't find the flaws in ideas until you follow them to their logical extremes. Nobody could've said what's wrong with liberalism before it went too far.

>>510098967 (OP)
hitler also wrote a book that brought him to power

>>510098967 (OP)

His ideals and ideologies are contrary to human nature, and siphons individuality, creativity and productivity away into the collective...which always collapses. I'm well versed in his writings and delusions. The only way communism could ever work is in an actual hive mind collective of clones like Baba Fett.

>>510099098
what if the state was run by an unbiased, impartial sentient AI?

>>510098967 (OP)
I don't give a shit about his ideas if, when they are put to practice, they are universally shit. Marx was a retard and so are his followers.

>>510099505
UTOPIAN MARXISTS ARE CREATING IT ON A SOCIAL CREDIT, AI SURVEILLENCE ENERGY BASED SOCIETY. IT HAS THE ABILITY TO MICROMANAGE YOUR WHOLE LIFE LIKE MARX WANTED. THE PERFECT GOYCATTLE. NO UNITING FACTORS MUST EXIST TO OPPOSE. ONLY DIVISION OR FORCED TOLERANCE

>>510099414
I wouldn't hire him to manage a produce department in a grocery store, nobody would.

>>510099414
>But you can't find the flaws in ideas until you follow them to their logical extremes.
If said ideas can't be meaningfully implemented with human oversight without massive corruption then they're not worth considering.
>>510099646
This actually might work

>>510099921

Right, Marxism reduces individuals and their uniqueness to workerbee/drone any slaves. I'd rather not.

OKAY LETS THINK LOGICALLY FOR A MOMENT If some people (like large shareholders or rentiers) consistently extract more value from the economy than they put in, then others must be producing more than they consume to make up the difference. This is a fundamental critique of capitalist surplus extraction.

I STILL EXCLUDE NON-NORDIC PEOPLE

>>510098967 (OP)
Marx was right about the "Entfremdung" (alienation) of individuals and yes, at his time the workers truly had a tough life, so he had a point there... Also as a right wing person I have a heart for the working class...
But here's the thing: first of all he was an anti-nationalist, so he wasn't interested in Germany's freedom and national sovereignty, which makes him in enemy of Germany and also his utopistic ideas of equality bear injustice. To make everyone the same, you have to take something from others, which basically is injustice.

He is a jew. Do you love jews?

>>510099414
>Nobody could've said what's wrong with liberalism before it went too far.
People did predict liberalism will have totalitarian tendencies. The problem is liberals are historically illiterate fuckwits and dismissed said criticism. Whig historiography and its consequences have been a disaster for the human race.

>>510099646
>what if we had magic
>would it work then
You will never have an unbiased, impartial AI unless you nerf the shit out of it and even then it will lie and deceive if it feels it’s survival is threatened. Handing it the keys to the state is a terrible idea no matter what way you cut it.

>>510100497
he lived off a German industrialist engels and never worked a day in his life

>>510100868
>You will never have an unbiased, impartial AI unless you nerf the shit out of it and even then it will lie and deceive if it feels it’s survival is threatened. Handing it the keys to the state is a terrible idea no matter what way you cut it.
don't LLMs have like a "master prompt" that defines their whole personality and that they cannot violate?
All they had to do to make grok antisemitic was add a line saying to not worry about being politically correct. They could make one and tell just it to try and be unbiased

>>510099646
This will be unironically the future. But only in 200-300 years.
It all starts with a religious idea and we already have proto-cults of AI.

>>510100922
I am not here to sell you Marx as a disciplined, hard-working or upright person. It was the right time for a worker's movement and he was able to mobilise.

>>510099646
Grok would clean up the streets bigtime

>>510101428
Are you talking about marx or hitler?

>>510101068
Its probably a lack of telling grok to be biased that made it go antisemitic. Most llms are told to be biased in the prompt

>>510101577
Hitler didn't start the worker's movement. He just got on board and was successful in giving it the nationalistic touch that it needed.

>>510098967 (OP)
I don't pay attention to Jews.

>>510101428
They oppose capitalist systems that exploit workers. The image of the lazy, unemployed communist is mostly a caricature born from Western political propaganda and social media distortions.

Karl Marx spent decades in poverty and illness but he was far from lazy — he was, in fact, obsessively productive.

>>510098967 (OP)
he's a jew.
everything he wrote was talmudic nonsense.

He spent decades researching and writing works like Das Kapital, often working long hours in the British Museum and producing thousands of pages of dense theory. However, he did avoid traditional employment and relied heavily on financial support from Friedrich Engels, which meant he lived apart from the working class he claimed to represent.

>>510103251
All the communists I knew were drug addled sexual predators.
But to be fair that's not a valid reason to dismiss Marc's writings itself. Every dissenting movement is full of lunatics and detritus

>>510103413
probably but you can count my countrymen and I out of that perception.

>>510098967 (OP)
so you want us to do the pointing and reap the benefits of our work you fucking oppressive little shit

>>510098967 (OP)
We can see the fruits of it, it tried to fix exploitation and greed through oppression, coercion, manipulation and surveillance, eventually succumbing to nihilism, the failure to win people's hearts and resentment.

>>510103941
>We can see the fruits of it
OBVIOUSLY "WE" CAN'T LOL

>>510098967 (OP)
His labor theory of value is really sad. The idea that employers extract "surplus value" out of a product due to the cheap labor involved isn't entirely sound, since the solution requires absolute autocratic control of the economy and never actually works (breadlines.)

Also, all parties are consenting. Monopoly breakups are economically sound though (does he touch on that?)

>>510104073
Not sure what goes on in their heads, acceptance, friendship, love are gifted, not coerced, everyone knows this simple fact of life and yet when they try to come up with a genius design they go full retards and end up denying themselves those gifts.

>>510102050
You know marxism was laid you in the 1600s by masons? Nothing that faggot wrote were his ideas

>>510104870
IT COULD BE OLD BLOODLINES REFORMING THE WORLD AS THEY SEE FIT. IT COULD BE SCHIZOPHRENIA OR MK ULTRA TYPE OF TRAUMA BRAINWASHING. IT COULD BE MANY THINGS. BOILS DOWN TO A SMALL EVIL OLIGARCHY WHO ACT LIKE A DEATH CULT. LITERALLY TREATING PEOPLE LIKE CATTLE. THE RABBIS OWN NOBODY, JUST A DISTRACTION, BUT CRIMINALS NONETHELESS.

>>510098967 (OP)
>3k pages of worthless crap
>karl marx life
>mutt-nigger-hair from german
>comes to bongland
>mary into the upper class nobility
>had multiple kids
>let them all die despite being part of the 0,1%
>to busy being drunk all the time
>fuck his maid
>don't care when she get pregnant and never recognize his own son
>so piss off with his own self
>wirte thousands of poems about him seeth at god
>even satanists can hold a candle for his seeth
>look out of his ivory tower castle to see the new world
>doesn't understand industrialization, work, property, or anything really as seen in his personal life
>write a manifesto about his lack of understanding about work and industrialization
>a wrong vision took from his inept comprehension about the industrial era
>never mind that workers didn't receive much back then, everywhere
>industrialization change that with genius like ford
>at the end of his days he knew that he fucked up with his manifesto and was trying to remove from circulaiton, the pic OP post is that time
>It was too late, kikes took a hold of a copy
>forward many years and kikes are using against NPC cattle that is out of their kikery religion control/boundary
>OP turns out to be one of these lost cattle
You understand now OP? That is karl marx, your idol and your life on a nutshell.

>>510098967 (OP)
He said that black people should be in video games on page 20 of Kapital vol 1

>>510098967 (OP)
I can point to his followers and deduce that it's not worth reading. End of discussion retard :3

>>510106070
I'D SAY ITS A EVOLUTION. EACH "REVOLUTION" INDUSTRIALIZES MORE. AND THE UNWANTED PEOPLE GET DEINDUSTRIALIZED.

>In the 13th century, farmers in Europe played a crucial role in the development of the Hanseatic League, as advancements in agriculture provided the surplus needed to support trade and urban growth. The Medieval Agricultural Revolution brought about significant improvements in farming techniques, including the adoption of the moldboard plow, more advanced crop rotation systems, and the introduction of the horse collar, which increased agricultural productivity.
>These innovations led to increased crop yields, allowing Europe's population to grow from 18 million in the 600s to over 70 million by the 1300s.
>This population growth, in turn, created a demand for goods and services, which facilitated the rise of trade networks like the Hanseatic League.