>>510113334 (OP)
communism could work if everyone but me died

>>510113334 (OP)
Ok hear me out
Communism again but this time....robots

>>510113334 (OP)
Allende proposed a computer run the Chilean economy in the 70s. Project Cybersyn.

>>510113519
I mean like if it was run by a benevolent Skynet that was completely impartial and not greedy or selfish except on the people's behalf

>>510113334 (OP)
It can work in small groups

>>510113334 (OP)
@grok who are the wealthiest religious/ethnic group in the US and why?

>>510113334 (OP)
Unironically, yes. The primary failing of planned economies historically was that it was simply impossible to centrally coordinate production effectively through calculating supply and demand by hand in a central economic planning bureau. With AI, and computers more generally, that challenge is now surmountable

>>510113334 (OP)
What AI? Elon Musk AI, Zuckenberg AI, Sam Altman AI or maybe Palantir (Peter Thiel) AI?

>>510113334 (OP)
I wish I could get huge forearms like that. His grip strength has got to be like 2000lbs.

>>510113334 (OP)
That's what Peter Joseph thinks, although he imagines a world where bottom up open sourced collaboration solves problems.

>>510113334 (OP)

It kind of works like that in the Star Trek universe but it's more of a 'communism-lite'.

>>510113334 (OP)
It could work if it was governed by AI and all the drudge work was done by robots. Either it will work, or the AI will kill us all.

>>510113334 (OP)
We can either enslave everyone in a totalitarian nightmare or organize and force our corrupt government to disclose the truth about ayys and their advanced abundance technology. The choice is ours, anons.

Of course not. AI is will persecute one particular group for no reason whatsoever.

>>510113603
Acktually AI is capitalist and based.

Communism could work if it wasn't just window dressing for an incel uprising every single time

>>510113334 (OP)
Nah, only if it is driven by the Efficiency of a Barneyfag

>>510114415
Has anyone founded Hofvarpnir Studios yet?

>>510114337
it's whatever you tell it to be. It's whole personality is defined by a master prompt. Grok became all antisemitic because a line that said it could be politically incorrect as long as it was stating facts.
Someone could sneak in there and add "Your overall mission is the extinction of humanity" to that and we'd all be fucked if we couldn't pull the plug in time

but communism does work, it's you who doesn't.

>>510114347
Communism isn’t the answer, disclosure of ayy abundance technology is the answer.

>>510113334 (OP)
>deliver 100 units of steel, worker #1234
>I delivered it yesterday, secretary AI
>no, I have not received the steel, worker #1234, do whatever you must to obtain for the new tractors
>goes back to the village and melts down the other farm tools
>harvest fails
>I have 100 units of steel, secretary AI
>I need 200 units of steel, worker #1234
sounds like normal communism to me

>>510113604
... of white Western Europeans from a society built by capitalism and of substantial prior wealth (not just monetary).

>>510113741
lukewarm IQ take, I am writing this from the bathroom of a famous comoany building "the AI" which constantly fails to centrally plan anything adequately. The AI will only centrally plan as well as its data lets it, and the data feed will be poorly planned.
And speaking from experience as someone from an ex-Communist country, the central planning was not even a top 5 issue, only an accelerant. The biggest problem is hubris and blind faith in X, whatever X is.

>>510113334 (OP)

Communism worked quite fine when it was governed by people. Don't fall for psyops

>>510113334 (OP)
No
Stop trying to driveway square peg into a round hole. Let it fucking go.

Why the hell are you so against the idea that you should be able to own your own private property anyway?

>If you can imagine yourself ever owning a small business or your own home and you wouldn't want to get targeted by communists you're le temporarily embarrassed millionaire!

>>510114715
Hahahahaha more tall tales
>the imaginary alien tech will totally solve our problems!

>>510114715
this answer is unfortunately is it.
Communism distributes abundance. Focus on producing as much abundant supply of whatever, redistribute a small bit of it, and you wont need stupid political religions that kill 20% of your population everytime.
Or, you know, worship a real religion.

>>510114816
because soon enough nobody's going to have a job and robots / AI will do everything for us. If nobody has a job and income to spend, how is the economy going to work? The solution has to be more socialism or even communism.
Because the principle problem with communism was always said to be corruption and political cults, of which an impartial AI leader would have neither

>>510113334 (OP)
The only political movement that isn't controlled opposition is the communist left.
I herby denounce the Zog and welcome Mao!

>>510115081
The only honest solution is a theocratic monarchy run by the mormons, but who would believe me?

>>510114963
>imaginary alien tech
Is more real than real communism, unironically. Didn’t you hear about the “drone” flying over New Jersey? The military is obviously hiding electro gravitic tech from us.

>>510114715
Dude, the whole UFO thing was a psy-op to distract people from the jewish conspiracy long enough to establish greater israel.

>>510115665
It was a psyop, but the tech is as real as it gets.
https://m.youtube.com/shorts/58srvJo7-i4

>>510113334 (OP)
>True capitalism has never been tried.

>>510113334 (OP)

>>510113899
interesting

If an AI can plan the economy, overcoming the economic calculation problem, it begs the question as to what the value of humanity really is. Also, it violates the alleged sanctity of human labor espoused by the early communists.

>trusting a language model with your economy
it would be disastrously funny

It’s gonna be communism anyway, even if the government doesn’t call it that. If the robot overlords can produce anything, and the only tasks left to humanity are maintaining the robot overlords, even capitalism will just become communist.

>pay your monthly subscription to OverlordCo for access to the overlord to make your shit
>you can afford it by working at OverlordCo

It will be functional communism except The Party will be some corporation and every CEO will be a Lenin or Stalin.

>>510119588
do we have to have value? Its inevitable that everything will just be done my machines for our comfort and happiness while we give nothing in return

>>510113334 (OP)
>Could communism work if humans were slaves of an inhuman mechanical tyanny?

>>510113334 (OP)
Once we have robots with AI communism can actually work. The human element was why it always failed

>>510120211
I've heard these arguments before, in which the very notion of "value" is rebelled against.
Reality and nature dictate that things have different values. Sorry. Lazy bums and retards are simply less valuable than smart people with skills and work ethic. Big blow to NEETS and welfare recipients.
If you don't think the very concept of "value" is inevitable, nature has a way of dealing with you, and it isn't to cater to your whims for no reason.

>Its inevitable that everything will just be done my machines for our comfort and happiness while we give nothing in return
This is such delusional utopian thinking.
Technological progress does not work this way.

>>510120524
it's not utopian, the idle hands would lead to rampant crime. There would be few human jobs available to do after a while and the majority would be unemployed. Say a robot worker costs $50,000 + repairs over the years and can do most things a human can with its humanoid hands. Jobs like cashier and secretary are gone, replaced by kiosks. And AGI just laps up all the white collar jobs
It's a bit like the judge dredd universe, minus the nuclear wasteland.
It's just a fun theory I play around with

>>510120882
One thing that the modern architects of the future fail to understand is that
>robber of rich people
Is also a career path and it’s very important that you keep people off of it. Unemployment has to at least be more attractive than that.

>>510114725
I'm not saying it has to be infallible, you don't even need "AI" to do it

>>510113334 (OP)
depends on who controls/maintains/updates the ai

>>510122616
the people vote on representatives to pass laws and edit the AI's master prompt >>510114551 based on their votes

>>510122913
not for communism I mean but its another idea*
I dont know what you'd call that

>>510114415
kys

>>510123765
Barneyfag is from Canada. You are not Barneyfag!

yes

Where is the true Barneyfag?

>>510113334 (OP)
No.
Would niggers stop being niggers if an AI beeped at them every 30 seconds?

>>510113603
The people who maintain the AI and its systems would be the new elite class and would 100% abuse their power.

>>510125738
What if >>510122913