What if he really got into that Art Academy? Would it have changed anything in regard to history?

>>510124503 (OP)
It would’ve made him have different priorities, and likely history would’ve changed

Who would Germany have as a leader?

>>510124595
Some commie jews

>>510124503 (OP)
No because its a cover story and his assignment was always to play the role of the Fuhrer and have WW2.

https://t.me/exposinghitler

>>510124503 (OP)
No. Even if he got accepted, at some point or another he would have been denied opportunities given to jews instead. He would’ve eventually NOTICED.

Doubt it, it's in Germans blood to try to destroy civilized parts of the world.

>Weimar continues simping for USSR
>helps USSR take over Eastern Europe and then the rest of Europe
>total communist victory in Eurasia/Africa

>>510124701
cover story for what stupid anglodog

>>510124595
Ernst Thalmann for sure, leader of the KPD, and puppet of Stalin.

Weimar was already exchanging tech and practicing joint military operations with Stalin, it was just a matter of time until the USSR takes over all of Europe with Weimar's help.

Some historians argue Hitler’s personal struggles and rejection helped fuel his bitterness and hatred, which pushed him into extremist politics — which I can relate to heavily. So maybe being accepted might have changed his path a lot.

>>510124719
I was always curious, culturally and possibly religiously, what made people even NOTICE jewish people? Like what were they even doing that was NOTICEABLE etc? Particularly in that time period.

>>510124774
>Weimar continues simping for USSR
>helps USSR take over Eastern Europe
So nothign changes as
>3rd reich continue to be allied with USSR and trains their officers in USSR
>3rd Reich help USSR take over Eastern Europe in 1939

>>510124503 (OP)
Hitler was a scapegoat puppet. Methed up 24 hours a day, possessed by war demons. If it wasn't him they'd pick someone else. Kek, people act like hitler magically did everything by himself like a supervillian in a cartoon. As if europe was just a happy fun land with postcard cities and idyllic farmland and then Hitler came along and ruined everything. Nazis just wanted to make the worlds a better place, and felt the ends justified the means.

>>510124503 (OP)
that's not how Neuschwanstein looks
the perspective is all sorts of fucked up

>>510124895
There would be still tenthousands of soldiers that had no job forming national movements.

>>510125315
JUST LET HIM THE FUCK IN MAN. YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT YOU ARE DOING!!!! THE TIMELINE!!!

>>510124503 (OP)

If Adolf Hitler (PBUH) didn't come around at the time he did Germany would have elected a communist jew. Just think, jew ran communist Russia aligned with jew ran communist Germany. They would have been an unstoppable force. Just think of the numbers of Europeans the kikes would have killed.

>>510125414
soldiers without a leader are useless. And most officers just do whatever their superior tells them. Only someone with vision like Hitler could have actually succeeded in overthrowing Weimar.
>>510125248
>nothing changes

There'd be no US to bail out Western Europe this time. The war would be the UK and France vs Russia and Germany, and UK and France would get obliterated. FDR was a closeted communist so would let it happen. FDR would then cooperate with Stalin to spread communism to India and China.

>>510124895
Thälmann was arrested by the Gestapo in 1933 and held in solitary confinement for eleven years and later was shot dead on Adolf Hitler's personal order in Buchenwald in 1944. There was a fear that if the regime fell, political prisoners like Thälmann could become rallying points for a post-Nazi government. Executing him removed that risk. He became a hero in East Germany (GDR), where he was portrayed as a martyr of anti-fascism. Many streets, schools, and factories were named after him.

>>510125901
Actually, question about communism. People have said weird shit to me like "OH COMMUNISM WORKS! ITS JUST ALL THE CAPITALIST COUNTRIES FUCK OVER THE ONES TRYING TO DO COMMUNISM". Is that true? Me personally, I don't think communism could ever be done right on a large workable scale. But is communism not working just because capitalist nations fuck it up? or is there more to it?

>>510124503 (OP)
WW1 would’ve broken out regardless and he would have to put his art career on hold. After annexing austria, Hitler met up with his old high school friend that still talked with him even after Adolf became homeless. His friend told him that he had to drastically alter the trajectory of his music career despite being accepted into a good music school, all because of the Great War. In some strange twist of fate, the fact Hitler got rejected meant he had no reason not to sign right up for WW1. He might’ve never earned his Iron Cross for bravery if he was accepted into art school.

>>510124503 (OP)
Nothing would’ve really changed. Hitler would’ve absolutely join the German army and eventually participate in German politics. Art, to Hitler, while wonderful, was secondary and more of a hobby (at least according to his friend August Kubizek).

>>510124503 (OP)
I always thought it'd be kinda cool to do an alternate universe thing where the divergence point was that Hitler realized that architecture was his true calling. Not sure what the state of the world would be but it'd be funny to see "A. Hitler and Sons" on a sign outside some big construction site or whatever.

>>510126219
>work

It depends on what you mean by "working".

I think it can continue to exist as a dysfunctional system if it's forcibly imposed on people. It will then continue at the expense of a low quality of life and living standards for the people in the system.

I also think its exaggerated how much the capitalists were able to actually sabotage communism during the Cold War. The USSR was basically self-sufficient, it had all the resources it needed. It failed because of mismanagement from within the system, the Soviet elite chose to build endless numbers of tanks to rot in a field rather than produce the consumer goods that Soviet citizens knew western citizens enjoyed like dishwashers and tvs.

>>510126219
Communism didn’t just fail because of capitalist sabotage even though that did happen to a great degree. It also failed because central planning was inefficient, power got too concentrated, and human motivation was often ignored. Both external pressure and internal flaws played big roles.

Thankfully we live in the 21st century. While old communism was top-down and rigid, post-modern communism is bottom-up, democratic, and flexible. It’s less USSR, more community-based socialism.

>>510126775
The image of tanks rusting while people waited years for appliances captures the absurdity of the system’s priorities. People saw that contrast with the West and lost faith in a system that promised abundance but delivered queues and censorship.

So yes: sabotage mattered, but the USSR had the resources it just lacked the systems and incentives to use them wisely.

>>510126820
So if someone "modern" today says "COMMUNISM BAD!" what are they referring to? Like to me when someone says communism, I think of a type of government in which everyone is basically paid the same for whatever job. So doctors are basically getting the same things / standard of living as like whatever manual unskilled job. But there is also no way to move beyond that if you wanted to. I have obviously never been to or lived in a true communist country so I have no idea for sure but a buddy once told me that Cuba is basically like that.

I think you'd basically get something like a repeat of WW1 with Germany attacking France through the low countries, simply to force a negotiation over the WW1 debt. The USSR would probably try to take Poland and the Germans might launch a counter-offensive to secure their rear. The biggest change is probably the sentiment towards jews and the hard situation might result in the Germans develop nuclear weapons and using those to win the war. America sees the potential in the nuclear bomb and develop one of their own during the war with Japan. If they use nukes to win that war, now you've got two nuclear armed powers that have both used the bomb to win the war and suddenly find themselves in a potential cold war situation. The US dominates the pacific and the Americas and Germany dominates Eurasia and parts of Africa. They probably end up going to war over China or something along those lines and China ends up being the first proper atomics war with hundreds of millions dying.

>>510127312
they’re usually reacting to a specific image of communism, one that mostly comes from the 20th-century communist states like the Soviet Union, Maoist China, North Korea, or Cuba. They're often thinking of forced equality + dictatorship + poverty like your example of Cuba, where many doctors and janitors live on similar state salaries, and there’s very little opportunity to change that.

One side hears “Gulag” and the other hears “free healthcare.”

In many real communist states, social mobility was limited, wages were flattened, and the system discouraged individual ambition or entrepreneurship. So your image of everyone being “paid the same” and not being able to advance does reflect how it worked in places like Cuba or the USSR.

>>510124503 (OP)
His art is 10000x better than the psychotic Van Gogh or Picasso lmao

Communist theory imagines a world where people work cooperatively, share wealth, and have no need for money or hierarchy at all. In practice, though, that’s never really worked on a national scale.

I view it as a call to action and strategic political tool rather than being a strict guideline to follow.

>>510124503 (OP)
Hitler wasnt a painter, it was just a means to an end. He most likely would have dropped out even if he got in. What Hitler really wanted to be was an architect and city planner.

>>510126820
>>510127229

> post-modern communism is bottom-up, democratic, and flexible

Modern communists aka BLM/antifa trannies are complete failures who can't accomplish anything because they have no organization or structure and reject the entire idea of hierarchy/order/structure/organization. It's a complete joke.

For as hypocritical as the old communists were like Lenin/Stalin who had a stratified hierarchical system imposed by force on those below them in society all imposed in the name of establishing an equality based communis t utopia, at least they accomplished something because they maintained order. No modern commies will never accomplish anything because their ideology rejects discipline or work.

Marx’s analysis is useful because it helps us understand how economic systems shape society and especially how power and wealth can concentrate in the hands of a few, leading to inequality and exploitation. His ideas about class struggle and how capitalism creates conflicts between workers and owners still offer valuable insights into social and economic dynamics today. At the same time, we can set aside Marx’s personal flaws and focus on the strengths of his ideas without getting caught up in his personality or any dogmatic interpretations. It’s about learning from the analysis in the same way we use Einstein‘s theory of relativity today, not idolizing the man.

>>510127976
the fruits of post-modern communism

>>510124503 (OP)
Probably? I doubt anyone else in Germany would have agitated in the same way. WWII would have been the west vs the soviet union instead, sometime around 45 or later.

>>510128058
thanks chatGPT very insightful

>>510124503 (OP)
No.

>>510124701
oh look, the jew is back with his poorly astroturfed hitlernegging campaign

>telegram
lolol

>>510124503 (OP)
>(((Academy)))
Generally speaking if there isn't a problem it doesn't need a solution.

>>510127976
If I had to put a label on it I’d say I subscribe to Nordic National Conservative Democratic Socialism…

But the groups you describe often reject traditional hierarchies and formal organization, emphasizing grassroots and decentralized activism instead. This can sometimes make it harder for them to maintain long-term structure or centralized power. Old communist regimes like Lenin’s and Stalin’s were highly authoritarian and hierarchical, which did allow them to enforce their policies and “accomplish” rapid industrialization or social changes often at an enormous human cost. The trade-off is often between discipline and order versus flexibility and decentralization.

>>510128174
Aww, thank you! Big sister Betsy always says Jesus teaches us to be kind and listen to each other, so I’m really happy I could help you!