https://youtube.com/watch?v=pRBLDxlvv24

>>510148257 (OP)
Surely Putin has nothing to do with that fake news Epstein list. The one that doesn't even exist, some suicidal regular inmate fron ten years ago.

i'm pretty sure he's just upset because he didn't get muh peace in 1 day when he said he would.

trump cares more about his appearance than strategic and long-term implications. throw in neocons who will be sucking up to him and pushing him to fight russia (proxy wars mean you're actually fighting).

>>510148257 (OP)
Putins bullshit no doubt. He’s been stalling on negotiations for 6 months.

>>510148510
russia gave their demands to ukraine, though. zelensky and his backers don't agree to them.

>>510148478
He offered russia a really good deal. Better than the usual trump deal. They should have taken it. They probably got greedy. Wanted more.

>>510148257 (OP)
i don't think putin really gives a fuck about what trump says or does

>>510148553
If russia signs on fully then what ukraine says is an afterthought. You know this and so does everyone else.

>>510148564
What was the deal? Russia has no reason to stop the war because they're winning.

>>510148681
Most of their prewar demands. And no russia isnt winning. Its basically never going to get what trump offered them months ago by force at this point.

>>510148681
It was to have the finest doctors in the world preform height surgery on Putin. He didn’t want it, in denial that he’s a manlet.

>>510148478
The cia director was having an orgasm when Trump said the weapons would continue. Hegseth just stared at the desk like he was told his dog had died

>>510148857
Could have just gave him some platform Trump sneakers

>>510148564
They’ll take the whole pie now that they’re pissed and have lost people. They were expecting total surrender

>>510148833
Because you say so?

>>510148937
Hegseth was the one that would cry on Fox News calling Putin a war criminal and Biden should send more weapons to Ukraine

Israel.
Ukraine is a fake jewish war the Chabad gangsters Putin and Trump are pretend-fighting so Zionists can go in and completely raze Iran while everyone is deebly goncerned over how to spell Kiev. Or, is it Keev?
The plan is working as intended.

>>510149020
Because it objectively isnt winning and isnt going to win. The head of the russian central bank came out publicly just a few days ago and said they've done all they can to keep things going. Prepare for tough times ahead. Thats not some nafo shill online. Thats a close confidant of putin himself. Shortly thereafter putin began another found of corruption purges and the duma authorized the fsb to open secret prisons likes its stalins soviet union again.

>>510149276
>>/k/

>>510148257 (OP)
He thinks American can do anything and got mad because Putin said he's raping Ukraine regardless of how much mutts seethe. Dumbfuck mutts think they're magic and people care. Well we don't.

>>510149400
/k/ doesnt run the russian central bank or the duma either.

>>510149518
>we
You literally joined nato because for russian imperialism in ukraine.

>>510148478
I agree. He already tried getting zelensky to surrender by punking him in front of the whole world, it didn't work. He needs to escalate and scare putin into a ceasefire now, there's no other choice.

>>510148257 (OP)
Trump is discussing Putin, so that everyone will stop talking about Epstein.

>>510148833
Russia is very obviously winning, that's why Trump is freaking out. He should have ended the war on day 1 like he said, but instead he's just following the same retard Biden playbook.

>>510149518
god damn I wish I could still get halfway decent pizza for a reasonable price

>>510148257 (OP)
What caused him to flip flop on every single one of his campaign promises?

>>510150228
He couldn't deliver so now he has to do the opposite while claiming he's actually doing what he promised

>>510148257 (OP)
Putin overplayed his hand. He had Trump convinced they were best friends, had Ukraine on the back foot and had admirers in the Pentagon fucking with Ukraine arms shipments. All he had to do was pick a moderate slice of Ukraine to have today and rebuild his army to take the rest that he actually wanted a few months after Trump leaves office. Instead he strung Trump along long enough that even Trump had to realize he was being bullshitted, a thing that as a professional bullshitter was bound to happen eventually. And now Trump is pissy about being played. Putin thinks that he just needs to talk to Trump again to get him back onside like the last three times Trump got anxious but this time the orange retard has actually woken up to being slow walked into handing Ukraine to Russia and won't be so easily bent over again.

>>510148257 (OP)
wtf i love trump now.
HEIL TRAMPU

>>510148257 (OP)
Epstein files. This is a distraction attempt

He does whatever jews tell him he would be best friends with putin if Benjamin told them to

>>510150002
3 years into putins 3 day war and russia doesn't even control what trump offered them in his deal. Their summer offensives this year have been a complete flop and old strelkov is doom posting more than ever. They arent winning anything. They are heading towards collapse or a atomic chimp out. Thats where the next happening is gonna be. Not china or iran.

He was never going to give up on Ukraine, it was all show. Otherwise he'd disable starlink within 24h of entering office

>>510150878
I think that in those 3 years, the US/UK can fortify Ukraine much more effectively than Russia can built back its army and assets. It would be even more of a grind if delayed. The worst that can happen now is the same as before - more arms shipments, more financial support. Trump's only move is to escalate hard and hope it's enough to make the war seem unwinnable.

>>510148257 (OP)
pretty obviously did it to shore up some votes for the big beautiful bill, and it sounds like it might just end up that we sell weapons to the EU and they can send them over. IE some people are getting paid

>what caused it

He literally says he is tired of his bullshit.

Talking peace but not making it. He spells it out

>>510151728
>I think that in those 3 years, the US/UK can fortify Ukraine much more effectively than Russia can built back its army and assets.
This incorrectly assumes a boatload of shit that is wrong about the deal that Putin could have struck.
>those 3 years
This is a huge part of why Trump is pissed, Trump wanted Putin to set terms early so they could be butt buddies for upwards of 4 years or as close as possible, this is why he talked all that shit about ending the war on Day 1. With each month that Putin fucks around at the negotiation table Trump realizes he fucked up trusting Putin.
>US/UK can fortify Ukraine
Why would the US be spending money rebuilding Ukraine's capabilities in the meantime? In this deal, the US and Russia would essentially become economic partners hand in hand which would have put Russia's ailing economy into rocket ship mode and given Putin a huge war chest to return to his pet war with in a few years time. All the while the US would force terms on Ukraine that would rip their fangs out and make them complacent, basing the agreements on the assumption that Russia wouldn't fuck them in the ass later while Putin would know that to be false.

Again, Putin had an easy layup but was getting off on having the US as a pet that he strung Trump along too long and now the con man knows he's been conned and is spitting mad about it.

>>510151458
yes he was dumbass. Putin is a retard. Trump is literally the most pro-russian president since ww2 and Putin could've accepted the peace deal which is past the frontline at the moment then betrayed the deal in a few years when his army is fixed. instead Trump is going to bleed russia until someone takes out Putin.

>>510148257 (OP)
Bibi is made he only gets little now because of the war.

>>510152302
there's not been a single positive thing trump has done for Russia. He didn't obey a single ceasefire. We had a deal to ceasefire on the black sea and he didn't bother to lift sanctions for grain export. He didn't even bother to return our frozen reserves, hell he didn't even bother to return our consulate property.

Trump's a senile retard just like biden, only spouting nonsense without doing anything, then changing his mind the next day. it's really embarrassing seeing grown people behave like 5 year olds

>>510153199
>H...He didnt want peace
This is how you know putin fucked up. The desperate cope. Not only did putin piss off trump with his screwing around but he totally undercut any antiwar, pro russian political voices in the west. Those propaganda vids of tucker dazzled at shit tier russian bread when he lives in one of the wealthiest areas on earth surrounded by artisanal bread products are just a comical farce now.

>>510148257 (OP)
hes just selling weapons via nato. europeans are buying it and sending it to buttkraine. it aint free.

>>510148510
russia doesnt need to negotiate jack shit. theyre a nuclear force with a big ass army. russia made its demands and every buttblasted neolib is malding at how they cant do shit but fight to last ukranny.

Trump made the mistake other Presidents have made of trying to negotiate with Russia in good faith.
Trump wants this war ended. He sees it as Biden's problem that is dragging on into his term and he hates that. He wants it off the table. He also doesn't like Zelensky ever since that 'perfect phonecall' in the first impeachment.

He offered Putin an extremely cushy deal to try to wash his hands of the conflict entirely and what did Putin do? Nothing. They drag negotiations out forever. Negotiations about negotiations. Talks about talks. 'Tapping us along' as Trump rightly said.

This is the way Russia always is, they view honesty and good faith negotiation as a weakness to be exploited. Give them an inch and they'll take a mile and then demand another mile.

The only language Russia understands is the language of the gun. Putin is going to go down in history as a colossal fucking retard for getting greedy and blowing this chance.

>>510151171
You're coping. The reason we keep sending crap to Ukraine is because they're getting their shit pushed in. Trump should have cut our losses from the very beginning of his presidency but he cucked out and now we keep wasting resources on this sunk cost bullshit.

>>510153434
look, we know you lizardeyed shitfaced snakeoil strategies. And we don't trust a single word coming out of your cumsoaked lips. Your people want peace? good, then actually do something besides talking.

Trump said he could stop the war in 24h. He could disable starlink above Ukraine 5 minutes into his presidency. He didn't. Because he wants the war to continue.

Simple as

>>510153620
>big ass army
You mean the shithole that had Prig march uninhibited across miles and miles of Russia all the way to Moscow, only to stop of his own volition?
Literal third world African shithole tier. It's a joke of a country that can't project force more than a few miles over the border after 3 years.

>>510148257 (OP)
The threat of video of him raping children being posted on /pol/.

>>510153808
>Just give us everything we want and there will be peace
>Just stop resisting being mugged and the violence will end! Why do you prolong the conflict!?
:^)

>And we don't trust a single word
A Russian talking about 'trust', good joke I'll give you that.

>>510151171
>3 day war
Shill confirmed. Dance little piggy.

>>510148257 (OP)
I honestly believe its due to all the jews surrounding him and speaking their lies into his ears

>>510154008
if you promise to end the war in 24h order to get elected, then you either must do it or you're a grifter or a retard

Trump promised to end it in 24h but didn't. FACT
Is he a grifter or retarded?

>>510148257 (OP)
Simple, he was given the next page of the script.

>>510153718
>This is the way Russia always is, they view honesty and good faith negotiation as a weakness to be exploited.
I hate to agree with you, but you're right. Putin is a bully, and no bully ever was stopped by kind words.

>>510153808
You dont know anything. Your governmnet is run by mid level yes men of the soviet days who suddenly found themselves elevated to positions far beyond their ability because they stole everything that wasn't nailed down in the 90s. Now they are bumbling buffoons who dont know what they want, who thinks the world runs like it did in the 1880s, and had a vastly exaggerated opinion of their own strength. They have misjudged and miscalculated at every single stage of the conflict in ukraine dating all the way back to 2014 and have done so yet again. Trump did shutdown starlink briefly and that was only then that russia was able to break the ukranian defenses in kursk. The satellites went back online and russia immediately started failing again like always. You're in the same situation iran was in. Trump offered you a deal and you fucked around. Now you get the bombs and the humiliation. The next time trump offers you a deal it wont be so good.

>>510154022
>we were supposed to lose millions of men in a war lasting years
What cope.

>>510154151
>Trump promised to end it in 24h but didn't. FACT
Trump offered you peace immediately. You refused it.

>>510154151
>if you promise to end the war in 24h order to get elected, then you either must do it or you're a grifter or a retard
And Putin promised not to raise a pension age. Who is he in your book, a grifter or a retard?

>>510154644
>Putin is a bully,
idiot
unsure if hohol or vpnigger

>>510154720
keep pretending your president isn't just another glowie asset, without a soul, without honour and meaning to his words.

He said he'll end the war in 24h but FAILED

>>510148257 (OP)
Putin deciding to abandon Iran made him Israel's number 1 bitch, and Trump can't let his title be stolen like that.

>>510154876
>hohol or vpnigger
A putinbot accusing his opponent of being a "hohol". Other news: Water is wet.

>>510154777
>Trump offered you peace immediately. You refused it.

He didn't offer anything. He didn't lift a single sanction, return a single stolen property, he didn't obey a single minute of ceasefire

He's a CIA asset and wanted to repeat the same gift as in 1990, fucking us over without doing anything. Won't happen

>>510154817
>And Putin promised not to raise a pension age. Who is he in your book, a grifter or a retard?

When did that happen?

>>510155029
Чeй Кpым?

>>510155066
>He didn't offer anything.
He did. He offered you a generous peace that you have demanded since the start of the war and opportunities for more as others have pointed out itt. Your masters threw that away because they are retards and because putin cant return home with just 20 percent of ukraine at the cost of over a million loses and not get thrown out a window soon afterwards. Its your master thats an intel asset. Not mine. Only yours was a very low level, unremarkable one risen far above his station. Now he's trapped in a situation where its better to let you die and let russia collapse than it is to end his war. One of the greatest strategic blunders in russian history.

Trump can't do anything because the US cannot produce enough weapons to protect itself, Israel, and Ukraine. US no longer has industry in the quantity that would make such a thing feasible, and political will for troop involvement is non-existent and would lead to massive civil unrest, likely igniting into a real civil conflict.
>>510152172
>In this deal, the US and Russia would essentially become economic partners hand in hand which would have put Russia's ailing economy into rocket ship mode and given Putin a huge war chest to return to his pet war with in a few years time
The US is a rapidly declining power. A whore house for Israel at best and it will likely not survive the next 20 years as the political situation becomes more and more extreme.

>>510155435
None of that is true anon. Why do idiots think the US has no factories when aside from china it has far more industrial output than any country on earth and literally the largest military industrial complex on earth?

>>510151171
why you faggot shills always oust yourself with that one line

>>510155555
Because it doesn't have the factories. Otherwise, we could produce hundreds of missiles a month. We don't because we can't. I'm not even going to talk about the rotting educational system that can't even produce literate adults anymore.

>>510155391
>He did.
prove it
Because if USA was the one to wage the proxy war (as Rubio admitted), then the USA must back off and offer some kind of guarantees. Usa didn't offer anything

https://www.reuters.com/world/kremlin-says-rubios-view-ukraine-conflict-us-russia-proxy-war-matches-that-putin-2025-03-06/

>>510155578
You mean the truth?

>>510155702
He offered you peace. He didn't offer you a free hand for more war. Thats not what peace is. You got offered peace and you reduced. Now you get wrecked.

>>510148257 (OP)
The Jeffrey Epstein videos

>>510155066
>When did that happen?
https://tass.ru/info/5501212

>>510149649
>You literally joined nato because for russian imperialism in ukraine.
It was just blackmail by CIA trannies.

>>510155814
A lie repeated a thousand times doesn't make it any less of a lie. you have no proofs so go fys

>>510155651
Its statistically likely that you have more factories within 50 miles of your house than the majority of countries on earth. We have many weapons factories and can throw up more very quickly if needed as we did for the iraq war. You're posting memes and hyperbole. Not facts. Yes the US has a massive arms industry. Yes we can arm dozens of countries if needs be. We can vastly outproduce russia and the EU in weapons.

>>510148257 (OP)
Trump failed to deliver a peace treaty
now he's throwing a tantrum
Russia has a right to defend its people in Ukraine

>>510155931
Its not some state secret anon. Trump publicly offered russia peace and russia even responded with bullshit negotiations and vague promises for a while. All teh eurotrash were even seething because trump had sold out ukraine they said. Putin fucked up. Simple as.

He continues to shit on miggers

>>510148257 (OP)
It's all just bullshit to try and deflect attention from the epstein file

>>510148257 (OP)
Russia isn't leaving until they steal more land, they need that land to set up nuclear missile silos closer to western europe and the USA. Its simple really.

>>510148681
/thread
zion don is losing support from all sides

>>510155958
>Its statistically likely that you have more factories within 50 miles of your house than the majority of countries on earth.
Nigger I live in a major city There are factories here and guess what? None of them are weapons factories. Most are boutique factories that design and build bespoke components as subcontractors for larger manufacturing operations, mostly related to oil and other local industry. There are literally two factories that build patriot interceptors rockets in the US. TWO. And they produce collectively like 4 missiles a month. There is only one factory that builds the actual launcher. We have literally no tank production, our naval yards are trash, and our aircraft manufacturing capability is at max capacity during fucking peacetime.

We are not able to fight a war buddy. Its not 1940 and the line that was producing Suburbans can suddenly retool to build fighters and missiles. Shit doesn't work like that.
>We have many weapons factories and can throw up more very quickly if needed as we did for the iraq war
The Iraq war wasn't seeing hundreds of vehicles destroyed every month. And even then, what we produced were armored trucks with liftkits to fight hajis, not heavy armor nor aircraft.

>>510156227
Support for aiding ukraine is at a high point tho.

>>510155931
Very interesting. It seems like Western media would still be concerned about the fat right in Ukraine if russia had not invaded Ukraine.
Was making far right in Ukraine acceptable to the West Putin's plan all along? Is Putin secretly a hyhyl nazi?

Trump likes getting embarrassed like the trannys in the pentagon

>>510156055
>Trump publicly offered russia peace
>still hasn't even prove a shred of evidence

lmao
lying nigger

>Trump Vowed to End the Ukraine War Before Taking Office.
>The War Rages On.
>https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/19/us/politics/trump-promise-ending-ukraine-war.html

>>510153199
Yeah man he never cut Ukraine off from aid, he never literally cut their intelligence in Kursk so you could steamroll them, he never brought Zelensky to his knees so he would negotiate with Putin.

>He didn't obey a single ceasefire. We had a deal to ceasefire on the black sea and he didn't bother to lift sanctions for grain export. He didn't even bother to return our frozen reserves, hell he didn't even bother to return our consulate property.

Maybe because every time Putin spoke to Trump he would immediately start bombing Ukraine civilians, lied about multiple ceasefires while attacking Ukraine, refused to any demands of Trump & Zelensky.

It has nothing to do with Putin.
The US is controlled by arms merchants and trying to go against them wrecked Trump's first presidency, so he's instead appeasing them on Ukraine and with demands for more NATO spending.

>>510148257 (OP)
Kill Russniggers

>>510156391
>literally cut their intelligence in Kursk so you could steamroll them,
satellite information had no role here because it wasn't a steamroll, but a covert assault. educate yourself
https://w.wiki/ENq3

>>510156273
And I live in a place with 5 weapons factories within a 50 mile radius that I know of. There were twice that during the surge in iraq when they needed ammo and mine proof vehicles. Something the US army didnt have in it inventory at the time. A year later they had thousands. Were still sending them off to ukraine for free now that we dont use them anymore. Your understanding of the US is warped by ignorance and typical /pol/ self hatred as well as political grandstanding about how the foreigners took all the jobs. The US has a massive industrial base and its been growing over the last few years. Dont mistake doomposting and exaggerated hyperbole by politicians for reality. When the world wants wepaons they come to the US. Especially now given how god awful russian weapons have performed in recent conflicts.

>>510156564
they changed alot of shit in the wikipedia since 2022,the block leaded by the u.s just rewrite history to their benefit, you really shouldn't had disolved the CCCP, whitout blasting some shots, this is what is going to happen, you should had hanged gorbachev and yeltzin in public

>>510156352
He offered russia peace as it says. Russia refused peace. Cant have peace if russia refuses.

>>510156564
Yes I'm sure your media said it was a genius attack that was in the makings for months! Dumb russian shill.

>>510155931
Lie? nigga cheetoman legit stopped supporting them for awhile now that was your countries chance, now Trump patience has run out and now you and the entirety of your country will suffer for it. Because the only reason why your country is not fucking getting bombardded right now is because Everyone else on that side of the world is too chicken shit to do it but the moment our boots touch the fucking ground you will be swarmed because the rest of europe has been waiting for this for a very long time.

You didny want to walk like a man so now you and your fellow countrymen will lie like dogs and given your militarys history it'll be till the last Russian man with no ammo and one gun.

>>510148257 (OP)
Whys he cursing so much lately

>510148257
If you think he was ever "with" him in the first place you are the gvrkavoyim the jews talk about

>>510156673
now I'm convinced you're illiterate

>Donald J. Trump’s promise to broker peace between Russia and Ukraine in 24 hours, “before I even become president,” proved to be untrue.
>“Before I even arrive at the Oval Office, shortly after we win the presidency, I will have the horrible war between Russia and Ukraine settled

PROMISING TO END the war and offering a peace proposal are two different things. He promised the first. And you have still to show me he even proposed the second. I'll be waiting, either back up on what you said or you're a loser

>>510156928
He offered russia peace withing the first 24 hours and russia rejected peace. You could have had peace. You chose more war.

>>510156986
did he really did that? on what terms, probably wanted to give the donets and luhanks back to ukraine isn't

>>510156704
Biden supplied them with weapons until the end of 2025, it's literally what the hohols say about themselves. So on the frontlines it doesn't matter what trump says. He wanted to end the war and failed. Now it will be his war just like Nixon, and he'll be remembered as a fat orange loser

>https://kyivindependent.com/ukraine-has-enough-arms-to-resist-at-least-until-mid-2025-marchenko/

>>510157077
he didn't, that's why this mutt can't post proof

>>510157077
He offered them the 4 provinces they annexed. No nato membership for ukraine. Recognizing russian control of crimea. The only pre war demand he didn't offer was demilitarizing ukraine but there was an offer of a DMZ. Negotiations never got to the point where specific details about that were finalized. All and all a good deal for russia. More than its gonna get now. Ukraine hated it but had russia been gone for it ukraine wouldn't have had much of a choice in the matter.

>>510157186
What funny is that biden will go down in history and the man that destroyed russia. Maybe that will be the pic they use.

Someone post the “wheres the minerals zelensky” meme for my viewing pls

>>510157388
I dont think you will ever be able to Ussr-ed russia a second time, as long as they have nukes, they wont go whitout using them, the ussr leaved peacefully out of altruism, big mistake

He’d like to stop it; the IC Neocons do what they want, so Trump isn’t really in a position to demand peace, and therefore Putin just ignores him because he isn’t actually in charge.

Putin is going to the river and that will be it. Might take awhile, but that’s how it will end.

>>510148257 (OP)
He finally decl-
>send weapons
Ahh, nah. That's just their get together to feast on their blood, harvest their organs and use the bodies as fertilizer.

>>510156869
If it happens again media will start talking seriously about it probably.

>>510157505
Its setting itself up for a second 1991 it seems

https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/russian-central-bank-governor-says-inflation-is-slowing-faster-than-expected-2025-07-02/

Shut up you nitwit follower.

>>510157702
>muh inflation
I dont know what the western glowies working on, but surely you will use the oligarchs like you did in the 90's out of spire and the destruction of the ussr
you dont care shit either ukranians or russians, you want the resources its as simple as that, puting them fighting each other was diabolical

ye trust the experts
Obabo already tore our economy in pieces
https://www.cnbc.com/2015/01/21/obamas-remarks-on-russias-economy-dead-right-experts.html

>>510148257 (OP)
This orange mf gon do him dirty like that, after getting his ass elected twice, saving his ass from multiple assassination attempts, giving him a loyal eastern European bitch, this mf got no gratitude or loyalty, he a hoe

>>510157840
Its basically germany in 1917, a supercharged wartime economy stretched to its limits. You can only do that for a short period of time. Not a forever war. Especially as the russian economy was pretty weak to begin with. As for caring, yes its much better for russia to ruin itself in ukraine than it is to have to fight russia directly in the baltic states. As for resources we want canada's resources. It has way more of everything valuable than russia does. Bit of a lesser known fact that puts current animosity towards canada into perspective.

>>510157328
>He offered them the 4 provinces they annexed.
Bullshit. He offered to redraw the border by the line where troops are currently standing. And reserved the ability for USA and Co to pump Ukraine with more weapons.

Why the fuck would we agree to that? To get a repeat of the same in 5-10 years?

>Russia will run out of resources
an abstract cope even for amerigolem

>>510158119
Nope he offered the 4 provinces and yes thats was the only way you were ever going to get them all. You should have agreed because now youre gonna be destroyed and get nothing.

>>510158252
>Nope he offered the 4 provinces and yes thats was the only way you were ever going to get them all.
No he didn't. He specifically offered only the parts of provinces Russia already controls. Read your own wiki if you can't be bothered to check the negotiations directly, retard.

>>510158119
>>510158252
>>510158314
Post source dickheads or you are just spouting empty words

>>510148257 (OP)
Some jew told him to be upset with Putin.

>>510158314
Yes he did.
>but I dont believe him
Ok then russia could have demanded that. Instead russia did fuck all and dicked around for a few months. Now they get nothing.

>>510158371
there's been no official offerings except for the two memorandi

Ours demands Ukraine to leave the four territories
"Ukraine's" (pentagon) demands us to leave vice versa

https://apnews.com/article/russia-ukraine-war-memorandum-talks-instanbul-6014fb7e87c15aa60e30bf72bf6cd2fd

>>510156869
>Whys he cursing so much lately
His jewish handles told him to curse more.

>>510156986
>. You chose more war.
So Russia benefits from more war in other words?

He got told by CIA "Support Ukraine or next time we won't miss"

>>510158371
Here's from article by fucking Barak Ravid on Axios

>"De jure" U.S. recognition of Russian control in Crimea.
>"De-facto recognition" of the Russia's occupation of nearly all of Luhansk oblast and the occupied portions of Donetsk, Kherson and Zaporizhzhia.

Plus a
>"A robust security guarantee" for Ukraine
Which very vaguely explores a possibility of standing a NATO/UN "peacekeeper" forces in Ukraine. You could drive half the world armies to Ukraine with the kind of vague speak it uses or do nothing at all.

>>510158936
Russia? No. Putin benefits from more war tho. He cant go back with all he's lost with just those pre war demands. The fact that ziggers are posting cope pics like that about their best friend in the west is just hilarious. A complete admission they fucked up.

>>510158972
Trump doesn't have the mental actuity to break out of the propaganda. When you are President you are literally fed non-stop propaganda by the CIA twenty-four hours a day, seven days a week. A President won't be able to stop them influencing his decisions unless he is smart and informed enough to process all foreign policy personally. Trump probably doesn't even know what the difference is between Russia and Ukraine.

For a long time, since after Nixon and Kissinger at least, our Presidents have been useful idiots of the CIA. Kennedy tried to steal the reigns of foreign policy and they shot him.

It's beyond a doubt now that Trump started two wars already, that he's a neocon warmonger who infiltrated MAGA from within to dismantle it.

https://edition.cnn.com/2025/07/08/politics/trump-tape-putin-bomb-fundraiser

I've seen a lot of anons in these threads mention that he proposed a really good plan to Putin, but never explain how 'stop shooting for 30 days while we still supply and rearm Ukraine' a good plan.

>>510148257 (OP)
THE CIA NIGGERS GLOW IN THE DARK

>>510148257 (OP)
Oh look it's the enfteenth time Trump does another 180. It would be funny if our own politicians wouldn't be so retarded to be actually surprised about Trump doing another 180...like "who saw that coming", right?

>>510148257 (OP)
Russia laid out the goals Day 1, Trump couldn't change their minds and he had a melty. Its as shrimple as that. War will continue and more white people will die in Europe.

>>510148257 (OP)
Someone finally told him Zelensky is a jew.

>>510148257 (OP)
trump wants peace talks
ukraine finally agreed
russia is stalling so they can get at least one more major offensive this summer while the mud is dry. trump doesnt want russia to do a big offensive first, he wants peace now. also trump wants to hold those rare earth minerals in ukraine. so you have to make it more costly the do the offensive than to do peace talks

>>510148257 (OP)
Tax cuts for Pelosi and the Democrat elites, weapons for Ukraine, Epstein list deleted. Loving my deep state Trump!

>>510159171
>The fact that ziggers
Why not just admit that you are a NAFOtroon?

>>510160343
>trump wants peace talks
Trump is a liar, so it's impossible to know what he wants based on what he says.

>>510160343
>russia is stalling
How? They've been ready for round 3 right after the body swap, but Ukraine can't set on date.
And some days ago big Z came out with a statement, that not all conditions have been fulfilled and talks can only be made between him and Putin.

>>510148257 (OP)
Little cheeto boy WON'T DO SHIT.
Everyone knew "ukraine" was fucked from the start, even Trump, he's just pouting like a child because his dumb political promises aren't even worth the paper they're printed on.

LMAO it's so fucking obvious when the Glownigger Mutt Brigade clocks out, what, no guys on third shift you pussy spic retards?

>>510159305
>Trump started two wars already, that he's a neocon warmonger
Gotta love putinshills calling Trump a warmonger all the while Putin started the bloodiest war in Europe since WWII, and did it on his own volition. And no, Ivan, Ukraine having a neglectable amount of neo-nazis doesn't justify starting an aggressive war.

>>510148257 (OP)
Putin has the Epstein list.

>>510148257 (OP)
I think Trump genuinely believed the "hurrr USA and Russia are not enemies" zigger agents in his cabinet were peddling him so he tried to give Russia the benefit of a doubt. But Putin just increases the amount of bombings because he thinks he can get away with it, and he probably will. This makes trump look weak because he campaigned on peace, not Russia's victory.
Trump hates looking weak, worst thing you can do to him.

>>510161124
>Putin started
bombing was started by Ukrainian VSU in 2014
during their so called "ATO"
https://w.wiki/EhrH

>>510159305
There’s no war in Iran and Trump is trying to pass off Ukraine to NATO. He can’t accomplish what he needs to domestically if he tells the people pushing for it to just fuck off; he might not even be successful if he did, and worse shit than just that might happen to him. He’s doing a pretty good job all things considered. I think he’d like to stop the killing in Ukraine, but if Russia ends up taking half of it, I don’t think he’ll really care.
>>510161325
Trump can’t stop it because the IC and the EuroZOG wont stop. So Putin is not going to stop.

>>510148564
>They probably got greedy. Wanted more.
Putin literally said he will not be satisfied until ALL of ukraine is absorbed into russia.

>>510161694
>Trump can’t stop it
Aww, poor widdle baby, somebody get some tissues to wipe his tears
By the way, if Russia is this bad at war, this incompetent, why do they constantly make Trump their bitch?

>>510148681
>because they're winning.
Christ you zoomers are truly fucking retarded.

>>510148564
>They probably got greedy.
Why are Russians so greedy? Are they Jews?

>>510155931
Nice try, kike.

>>510148257 (OP)
Are you still talking about Vladimir Putin? This guy's been talked about for years. You're asking — we have Texas. We have this. We have all of the things. And are people still talking about this guy, this creep? That is unbelievable.

>>510148257 (OP)
The only reason Trump does anything: jews

>>510148257 (OP)
Putin keeps telling west what conditions for peace are since day 1 of operation and west is acting stupid thinking they can get more then that.

Usa arrogantly thinks they should get something out of this or it should be in their favor and russia is juat repeating them conditions for peace and not giving them shit.

>>510161845
We aren’t actually fighting and Trump doesn’t want to. Russia has looked weak and shitty starting day one. They revealed themselves to be much less capable than anyone suspected. Still they will almost surely eventually win in Ukraine.

>>510158216
That's why pajeets are so interested in Canada they want to steal the natural resources

>>510148257 (OP)
I guess he found out the hard way that this picture is mostly true.

>>510148257 (OP)
Trump doesn't understand when world leaders flatter him he's being played. He thinks they genuinely respect him. He should be insulted that everyone thinks he's retarded enough to be so easily manipulated. He also doesn't understand global politics so to him Putin is powerful leader worthy of reverence despite the fact he's isolated and hanging on to power by a thread, meanwhile he thinks Zelensky is just some worthless pissant that's beneath him. It must enrage him to see Zelensky hailed as some hero (which is hyperbole of course) by other western leaders and figures like King Charles.

>>510148257 (OP)
Putin wasn't on Epsteins flight logs, im betting.

>>510163333
>despite the fact he's isolated
British education was once something to be proud of

>>510163333
You're probably the dumbest asshole I've ever had the displeasure of reading a thought by.
Your entire take is like a fanfic attempt at an tabloid article about a teenage z-list uk snaggle toothed gypsy fotm "heart throb".
What the fuck, anon. This isn't how men think or even retarded women think.

>>510159171
>29 posts

Jesus, really obsessed with the NAFO stuff, huh?

>>510163250
Wow, I didn't realise poland had changed its flag.

>>510163333
Checked, based and true.
The seething proves it.

>>510160785
>And some days ago big Z came out with a statement, that not all conditions have been fulfilled and talks can only be made between him and Putin.
Since he's an expired Jew, he's not a legit head of state so Russia won't honor any decisions made because they're super legalistic, right?
Also, didn't he make it illegal to negotiate with Russia?

>>510164802
>Also, didn't he make it illegal to negotiate with Russia?
yes, but the most fun part is he made it during the time he was still technically elected. So now he's under a presidential law he can't cancel anymore

>>510163676
I doubt he ever leaves the motherland, too paranoid about getting assassinated (valid)

>>510148257 (OP)
He's just completely folded to the wishes of the same people who controlled the Biden administration. He can cope and seethe as much as he likes but the reality is that it's just business as usual for NATO in regards to Ukraine.
What a massive disappointment this shitbag has ended up being.

>>510164802
> didn't he make it illegal to negotiate with Russia?
He did. And then he backtracked it in a way, that only he can negotiate anything.

>>510148257 (OP)
Putin has the legit copy of the list and other documents

>>510148257 (OP)
By interacting with Russians

>>510163333
>Trump doesn't understand when world leaders flatter him he's being played. He thinks they genuinely respect him. He should be insulted that everyone thinks he's retarded enough to be so easily manipulated.

He fully understands; you retarded yuros and previously xi and the leafs were the only ones who think that works. Trump is literally levying tariffs on every one despite your obvious attempts at b own nosing. It's literally one of Trump's main moves you aren't fooling him by using it on him.

>>510150878
>>510152172
...is right. Trump (obviously) nor do Americans give a single shit about Ukraine. We, as we increasingly look to go back to being isolationists, do not want to be involved and we're ready to essentially give Putin 90% of what he wanted to the point where relations could have been reversed back to being natural allies like before 1945. Putin should have just taken the easy win and let his successor finish the job a few years later but for whatever reason he didn't (imo due to egotistical reasons).

JUST BLOW RUSSIA THE FUCK UP

NATO BOOTS ON THE GROUND, UKRAINE IN NATO; EVERY STATE AROUND RUSSIA IN NATO. KILL PUTIN JUST BLOW SHIT UP I AM SICK OF IT

BOOM

BOOM

BOOM

*dorororororo*

machine guns, bazookas, tanks everything
BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM

>>510148257 (OP)
Who cares. Trumps a pedophile and is covering up a pedophile blackmail operation that has compromised probably majority of our government, tech leaders, scientists and media. Fuck Russia fuck Israel fuck Ukraine fuck you fuck that orange nigger in the white house. It's over.

>>510148257 (OP)
Not gonna lie, former Trump voter here. This is fucking hilarious watching Trump crash and burn. But in all seriousness we can't let this guy use the nuclear codes.

>>510148257 (OP)
Bibi visits I guess, anyone can confirm he's walked back on "never talking to him again"?

>>510148257 (OP)
Trump's jew handler and Putin's jew handler are having a spat

>>510152302
it'd be interesting if both Putin and Zelensky got taken out within days of each other

>>510148257 (OP)
Trump thought he could out smart Putin. Turns out a failed businessman and TV celebrity isn’t more intelligent than an ex-KGB dictator

>>510165676
would

>>510166494
Did he? All he ever did was praise him, act like he was his friend, and refuse to do anything. There's been no success with this strategy literally ever, not ever, not once, but he still kept doing it. There were no apparent deals, known advancements, verifiable agreements, nothing. He just sat there, got mad at Zelenskyy for not doing what he said about Biden and getting impeached 7 years ago, and said Putin was a very nice man.

This was diplomacy? Negotiation?

>>510165570
>we're ready to essentially give Putin 90% of what he wanted
You weren't even agreeing to stop intel transfer, lol

>>510160608
>>510164207
why do you losers just cry about NAFO when you lose an argument?

>>510166791
Trump thought taking a softer approach with Russia would work. Turns out it didn’t. Basically it’s the same failed strategy Trump used with North Korea

>>510167558
Why would he fucking think that? Because it's the opposite of what Biden did? They were in a war. Some fat retard half a globe away saying you're a very nice man, who gives a shit? That was supposed to do what, exactly? Ease tensions? He's already committed to fucking war. He may as well apologize to Afghanistan to see if it improves relations with the fucking Taliban.

>>510166836
>muh intel

>>510148257 (OP)
Putin's bullshit of course.
Putin literally has all that he could realistically want (and hold) from Ukraine already and NATO has distanced itself from Kiev quite a bit already

So it's really just headscratching at what more Putin wants out of it, because Russia ain't becoming any stronger on the fundamentals as time goes on.

>>510148257 (OP)
He's clearly cum drunk on Jewish cock milk. It happens to the best of Americans

>>510148257 (OP)
>Who cares that you lost 1 million people and 1 billion trillion roubles in a war that we started, just give up half your gains because my jew friends need that lithium and it would be good for my numbers
>NO
>that's antisemitic, that's it I'm fed up
Did that orange retard think countries give up clay and efforts to appease his ego? Capitulate or go and take it.

>>510168029
That sunk cost fallacy might just allow Putin to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.

>>510168029
Russia started it.

>>510155702
>USA was the one to wage the proxy war
hmm...
surely all of it is not poor Russia’s fault - sending hundreds of thousands of soldiers to occupy Kiew was not act of war - but defending against this invasion was...

>>510148257 (OP)
Predictive History called Putin a messiah and keeps on reinforcing the belief that Iran or Russia would be the now leader of the new poly-hegemony after divided states of america falls apart.
America hasnt been represented by her armies nor her govt in a long time and that has caused the culture to fall apart in every state.

>>510168329
Are you doubting your master?
When Washington speaks Warsawa listens

Trump never wanted peace. If he did he could end the war tomorrow by cutting off support to Ukraine. The fact that he doesn't proves America is fighting a proxy war against Russia and Trump is fully on-board with it.

>>510168121
>>510168229
Whqtever. Russia is winning. They won't accept a bad deal because the tables might turn. Worst case scénario they still have nukes.
Trump should have capitulated or gone all in. This pussy back and forth is what Biden was already doing in practice.

>>510168860
He bas demonstrated willingness to do so, but it led to nothing.
And so far Ukraine is still holding on with greatly reduced costs for us, so what reason do we have to force them to stop if neither party is genuinely interested in peace?
They are just exhausting eachother now.

>>510148257 (OP)
russia is winning, its trump who is doing the bullshit

Bibi has too much bad optics for him to visibly support

So he picked the other jew

>>510168982
Nah, he just knows his cards, he knows he can afford to wait.

>>510148257 (OP)
ITT mutts seethe and cope. Just admit the orange retarded doesn't know what the fuck he was doing.

>>510168860
trump started the war by sending weapons

>>510148257 (OP)
>Trump reverses
You don't say lol.

>>510169024
the US can't wait thats why trump is lashing out as the US is losing the war

>>510168982
Who cares tho?

>>510169109
In what way would the US be lashing out?
They're just rolling their eyes as the "winning" of both sides just looks increasingly silly and pointless.

We could be trading now if Russia just took what it needs rather than pointlessly exhausting themselves for no realistic meaningful gains.

>>510169234
Stopping Russia from trading with Europe was the whole point of this getting started. Did everyone just forget? US fracked gas was verboten here not that long ago.

>>510169399
Aye, but that was a while ago now.
The US has discovered it cannot replace that stuff despite all its sishful optimism.

That's part of the reason why Trump ran on this issue in the first place.

No the point is everybody could be doing more useful things at this stage of the war.

>>510148257 (OP)
the "list"...

>>510161162
maxwells dad was a trippel agend Mossad, MI6 and KGB

>>510169399
We aren't on the pro globalism team anymore. You still are; we aren't.

>>510154876
how is building neo soviet muslim union going?

>>510169573
Define you, we and team mutt.
I honestly don't like any block but I like russia and russians as I do ukrainians. We should just be bros between europeans but mutts fuck it up for us every 25 years.

>>510155219
churka!

Wouldn't Russians soldiers going back home just bankrupt Russia?

>>510169698
You cant even federalize yurop on your own.

>>510158119
Why would it repeat? Are you planning to invade again?

>>510169762
Why on earth would we want to weaken ourselves like that intentionally?
That shit's your pet project, a means of convenient continental control.

Trump is only spazzing out because ukraine lost their most valuable lithium mine last week so suddenly the famed rare earths deal is worse billions less and rapidly dropping.

Israel gets priority for patriot batteries and Russia knows it and is taking advantage while ukraine is understocked.

>>510148257 (OP)
>Trump's flip on Putin
The kikes told him if he doesn't help with Isfaek 2.0, then they would release the tapes where he raped a 13yo girl.

>>510169832
>Why on earth would we want to weaken ourselves like that intentionally?

Ok then don't.

>>510169953
...We already are not-doing that.

>>510169671
good
how many new orthodox temples has your country built this century?

>>510170074
Good job.

>>510170238
You know your own country would be much stronger too if it occasionally refrained from making bad ideas happen.

>>510148257 (OP)
He's done this exact thing about 5x now, kind of like with the tariffs.