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>Have all the advantage of a sneak attack
>Have a coalition of US,UK,GER,FRA,Saudi,Jordan,Iraq,Turkey,Azerbaijan supporting your attack
>Best you can do is beg for a ceasefire after failed your regime change objective

>>510154028 (OP)
it was kino

>>510154028 (OP)
>Daddy USA save us!!!!!
Kek pathetic

>>510154099
This.

>>510154099
israel getting hit is best kino.

>>510154028 (OP)
I don't think you genuinely understand the balance of powers here. Giving Iran a temporary ceasefire was showing them mercy. Israel could have easily crippled Iran for decades either singlehandedly or with the backing of the US.

Not a pro-Israeli shill but just look at the facts on the ground. They controlled Iranian airspace and were launching attacks from within. They either have an espionage network that's consumed high ranks of Iran's military or have the façade of having such a network which creates confusion within Iranian leadership. They have nukes if things escalate to that point.

And Iran? Okay they were able to get through the Iron Dome, but how much damage did they do? Who actually came to their defense?

>inb4 getting called a zionist shill
Dispute what I said

>>510154173
>>510154270
personally im more of a total iranian babby death kinda guy

>>510154309
>>510154346
Iran won

You jews lost

>>510154661
is this your sister

>>510154309
>Israel using US Trillion dollar war machine to brutalize and exterminate 2nd and 3rd world countries...

>>510154661
Sybau chinkshill

>>510154309
>israel,USA
>Mercy

If they could had taken out Iran they would have, especially israel.
They cucked out after their gay sneaky regime change operation failed and their cities got pummeled by BIG IRANIAN MISSILES.

>>510154661
By what metric? Iran won because you called me a Jew?

>>510154805
Yes. This is the point of my post. I'm not saying Israel winning was good, just that we have to objectively look at the facts on the ground.

>>510155061
Israel has nukes, what are you on about? You understand that Israel could have escalated even further than it did and it has plans to do so right? But hey you hit a few buildings and killed a couple of dozen people. How many Iranians died by the way as a result of Israel's attacks? I'm just trying to understand by what metric anyone can say Iran won? Israel controlled Iranian airspace, that's hardly something a losing country in a conflict does.

>>510155329
>Israel has nukes, what are you on about?

What would israel have done with their nukes?Nuke Iran to prove how dangerous Iranian nuclear project is?

> Israel controlled Iranian airspace

israel didn't controlled Iranian airspace.Thats a lie for smoothbrains.They only had partial control in the west and they attacked Teheran by going around air defences and going through Syria-Turkey-Azerbaijan.
Most of their strikes were from cruise missiles,drones from Mossad sabotage team from inside Iran(most of which got shut down) and some fly in action done by those heavy Hermes drones and many of those drones got shot down.They couldn't just willy nilly fly inside Iran.

>You understand that Israel could have escalated even further.

They ran out of steam and needed active US involvement.Iran could have escalated.They could have mined the straights of Hormuz and blow up US bases in the gulf of Persia.

Basically what happened is that israel failed to regime change Iran or control its airspace and they started running out of interceptor missiles so they cucked out before the war becomes a battle of attrition.Iran can absorb a lot more punishment than israel can.

>>510156009
>What would israel have done with their nukes?Nuke Iran to prove how dangerous Iranian nuclear project is?
I'm not defending the logic of using nukes but a temporary ceasefire is typically a preferable alternative to being nuked.

>israel didn't controlled Iranian airspace
You're the only one that thinks this
>They only had partial control in the west and they attacked Teheran

>They ran out of steam and needed active US involvement.
Yes retard, US involvement is further escalation on the side of Israel. This means that the side Israel won, since it has the US on its side, could escalate the conflict farther.
>Iran could have escalated.They could have mined the straights of Hormuz and blow up US bases in the gulf of Persia.
That doesn't run counter to what I said, just because Iran could escalate things on their end does not mean that Israel, with the US on its side, couldn't escalate things further. (By the way closing the Strait, not straight, of Hormuz would severely hurt Iran's own economy)

>>510154028 (OP)
cope goy, well nuke you again

>>510156009
>Basically what happened
Here you go, cut through the bullshit and tell me in all honesty how Iran actually won. Over 30x casualties.

>Many of those [Hermes] drones got shot down
If you count 2 as many
Look, I'm not justifying Israel's actions by any means but to say this is a win by Iran just because they zerg rushed Israel with missiles is silly when Israel has a strategy that is known by anyone that pays attention to this sort of thing to just nuke the world if things go that bad for them. Iran can't absorb nukes and why would you want the conflict to escalate to that point unless you're a braindead slav who has no connections to anyone in the region and doesn't care about their lives -oh wait

>>510155056
Seethe tranny

>>510156375
>we wuz air superiority and sheiiit

If they had total control of Iranian airspace then why did they need to go around air defences to target Teheran from behind?

>US involvement is further escalation on the side of Israel.

Which didn't happened because Iran was threatening to close the Strait of Hormuz and skyrocket oil prices.US cucked out and israel was unable to continue fighting at the same level of intensity so they asked for a ceasefire.

The name of the operation was called rising lion.The previous regime of Iran had a lion on its flag.The operation was obviously about regime change Iran back into the zionist shah.
They even targeted the president and the supreme leader.

israel cucked out because they failed.

>>510156754
>If they had total control of Iranian airspace then why did they need to go around air defences to target Teheran from behind?
Because air dominance isn't a matter of absolute control? Because they may have had strategic reasons like surprising Iranian defenses by attacking from different directions?

You're saying Israel and the US cucked out because they failed implies this is the end of hostilities which you'd have to be a retarded slav to think is the case, wait a minute...

>>510156552
War is not a KDR thing.Its like a boxing match.You need the ability to deal damage but also absorb it.
israel's ability to sustain damage was diminishing while its ability to absorb it got degraded.Thier interception % went down significantly and the missiles didn't stopped coming.Their airplanes were overused and pilots overworked.

>>510156941
>We wuz total air control and sheeeiiit
>Actually we wuzzen't total air control but we still good

As i said.They had some limited air control over western Iran and could hit Teheran with their gay sneak attack from azerbaijan-caspian sea but couldn't operate over the rest of the country.
The Iranians were regrouping their launchers in the center of Iran where israel had problems penetrating.

>You're saying Israel and the US cucked

Yes they did.There will be another round of hostilities but in the first round they cucked out.

>>510156975
So again, Israel controlled Iranian airspace, launched attacks from within, and has at the least the façade of an espionage network that has infiltrated Iranian military and political leadership. There were low casualties for the Israelis, they at the least set back Iran's nuclear capabilities by a bit, damaged other Iranian infrastructure, have the trillion dollar US military at their beck and call, and are probably going to receive more in military aid from the US to bolster up their defenses. You haven't refuted any of this and this is a strong case for saying the Israelis won.

Now let's look at the case for Iranians winning this conflict. They zerg rushed missiles until they overwhelmed Israeli defenses to where some missiles were able to get through and take out a couple dozen Israelis, and could have possibly maybe closed the Strait of Hormuz.

>>510154028 (OP)
desu.......iran showed them a glimpse of the quad laser

>>510157185
>They had some limited air control
They could literally fly in and do whatever they wanted.
>The Iranians were regrouping their launchers in the center of Iran where israel had problems penetrating.
You have no clue what you're talking about and you should be glad Serbia's defenses aren't led by morons like you. You have no idea how to assess a conflict and your analysis of what happened is beyond retarded. I can't blame you that much for it, you are a slav after all

>>510157347
>7 posts by this yidd
lol. LMAO even.

>>510157441
Wow, someone as retarded as a slav: a leaf. I'm ready to hear your explanation of how Iran won this war. I know you haven't read any of my posts so I'm ignoring you unless you can actually present something.

>>510157527
>blah blah blah blah
Iran won because Israel pussied out when they realized they couldn't hide behind the US's skirt.

>>510157578
The fortunate thing about Canadians like you being so retarded is that importing the third world into Canada doesn't bring down its average IQ by that much

>>510157237
>>510157347

>We totally could have won but we prefer cucking out like cowards.We wuz gods chosen and sheeeit.

You're telling me that israel had Iran by the balls but decided to let them go because they are just so merciful?What was the point then?Just to drop some bombs?You think that's how war planners plan their objectives.
>Yeah we start this war, drop some bombs and call it a day.

>They could literally fly in and do whatever they wanted.

No hroof.Sabotage with micro drones and cruise missiles aren't air superiority.If it were then we could call Russia lobbing 500 drones and 50 missiles a night at ukraine ''air superiority'' but we don't.

>be glad Serbia's defenses aren't led by morons like you.

On the other hand israeli military is led by exactly the type of moron you are that's why they started a war they couldn't won and had to cuck out like fagets.

>>510157768
>americans literally defeding isreal
Do i need to say more?

>>510154309
>couldnt even take out gaza in the ongoing two year special military operation
>somehow they wouldve been able to take out all of iran

>>510157880
See >>510156437
The hostilities aren't over. The Israelis are currently, as we speak, planning on attacking Iran again. You're the one acting like they're done. I think anyone with any sense can tell this is the case without Israeli media having to spell it out for them.

>No hroof.Sabotage with micro drones and cruise missiles aren't air superiority.If it were then we could call Russia lobbing 500 drones and 50 missiles a night at ukraine ''air superiority'' but we don't.
You literally have no clue what you're talking about. Israel consistently demonstrated that it can come into Iran and perform large scale attacks. And you're so retarded that you compare it to Ukraine's air defense? Ukraine has a much more robust air defense than Iran. Lol, lmao even.

>On the other hand israeli military is led by exactly the type of moron you are
I know I only said it multiple times but I'm not pro Israel, I'm just able to use my eyes. You haven't presented a strong case for why Iran won besides basically "vibes" nor have you refuted anything I've said.

>>510157969
Using your eyes and understanding what actually happened isn't a defense of Israel Carlos.

>>510157768
>continues lashing out like a called out jew
lol. LMAO even. Thanks for proving my point moishe.
>>510157880
The mental gymnastics these lunatics go through to defend their jewish masters is absolutely unbelievable. Incredibly cucked. Absolute sitting in the chair holding the camera energy

>>510157969
It isn't just an American thing, the christcuck and catholicuck golems around the world are just as fucking bad.

>>510158240
>muh understanding carlos
>doesn't even understand how badly Israel got spanked
>doesn't understand how Israel can't win when it can't even win against hamas
AHHHHAAHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHAHAHHAA holy shit what a fucking loser lmao

>>510154028 (OP)
Mutts who defend Israel are embarrassing and retarded. Israel would cease to exist overnight if our compromised blackmailed pedophile government stopped propping them up. Anybody who supports Israel is evil and stupid

>>510158221
>>couldnt even take out gaza in the ongoing two year special military operation
Can you answer by what metric they couldn't take out Gaza? Gaza looks like a fucking dump today where Israelis can come in and slaughter children and no one does anything to stop them. Not even sanctions.

>>510158277
I'm not lashing out, you just can't distinguish someone giving you facts vs someone sucking Jewish cock because you're a braindead leaf.

In this post >>510157237 I gave an objective view of the situation. This isn't a defense of what Israel did, it's an acknowledgement of what happened after the dust settled. I know that's difficult to understand because it'd require an IQ above room temp but I believe in you.

>>510158361
>i-i-im not lashing out
>doubles down on lashing out

>>510158338
Hamas (a group propped up by Israel btw who Israel made sure from 2012-2018 received a billion in cash) said it lost about 80% of its control in Gaza, but I'm ready to hear how this is actually a total loss by Israel.

>>510158423
Still no response to anything I said

>>510154028 (OP)
They also wasted decades of asset building just for this moment KEK

>>510158480
>blah blah blah blah
lol I'll take you seriously when you wipe that jewish cumstache off of your face

>>510158541
I don't have to take this from an Indian

>>510158590
>y-y-you're a jeet
lol. LMAO even.
You'll take it and you'll love it like the little bitch to jews you are, you submissive little cuck.

Don't like it? Leave.

>>510158714
K but you saying I love Jews doesn't mean I love Jews. I don't like that Netanyahu has become more of a bloodthirsty despot in order to keep himself out of court and would rather Israel not be led by genocidal terrorists like Itamar Ben-Gvir and Bezalel Smotrich. Unfortunately, my government is compromised by Israel and I have no say over what it does because I don't live in a democracy.

This, however, doesn't prevent me from being able to assess what happens in the world Ranjeet.

>>510154173
FAKE

>>510156009

Shut your fucking mouth you filthy shitskin insect. When a white man speaks, you listen; or you get your bindi shithole bombed even further back into the Stone Age. We run this world, because we’re more evolved and capable. You’re an obsolete simian subhuman in a progressive world. Fall into line, or we’ll actually notice you exist and pave over your sand nigger people and culture for a Dave & Buster’s.

>>510158240
>The hostilities aren't over.

We are talking about the first round where they had all the advantage but still managed to fail.

>You literally have no clue what you're talking about. Israel consistently demonstrated that it can come into Iran and perform large scale attacks.

You have no idea what you are talking about.You could be a women for all i know.Listen.Iran is 1000km away from israel and Teheran is 1500km and going around the defences to attack from the Caspian is 2000km.That is a lot of strain on the airplanes that require constant maintenance and tires the pilots.They couldn't keep that up for more than a few weeks.
At this distance you can forget about constant fly in air superiority.They need constant air refueling as well which complicates things further.

>Ukraine has a much more robust air defense than Iran

>You haven't presented a strong case for why Iran.

Iran started buying lots of Chinese long range AD and are looking to buy J10 aircraft.Iran is finally dropping their pride and are buying military gear from abroad instead of trying to develop it.Good job israel totally winning there lmao.

As opposed to you who just repeating war propaganda narratives without understanding wtf happened.

It’s OK to cope and be depressed :(

>>510158277
>The mental gymnastics these lunatics go through to defend their jewish masters is absolutely unbelievable.

If Hamas would have captured Tel Aviv and executed Netanyahu on national TV they would still talk about how amazing and powerful israel is.
These people are brainfucked.

>>510154270
This is perfect bedtime whitepilling ASMR

>>510159276
>When a white man speaks, you listen

jews aren't white moshe.

>>510159278
>but still managed to fail.
Again, based on what metric other than your vibes

The rest of your post is literal nonsense. Israel has the backing of a trillion dollar military. Iran has no chance of keeping up with that especially given Russia and China weren't stepping in to help them.

>we're talking about the first round
And then you go on and talk about the wear and tear on Israeli aircraft which wasn't an issue last month and that Iran is buying military hardware from China which like J10s which they didn't have last month. I know your Slavic monkey brain is going to have a hard time understanding that's a contradiction, but to someone that can read and understand what he's reading, you're not making sense.

>As opposed to you who just repeating war propaganda narratives without understanding wtf happened.
You haven't been able to clearly demonstrate where my assessment of the issue has been wrong.

>>510159371
>If Hamas would have captured Tel Aviv and executed Netanyahu on national TV they would still talk about how amazing and powerful israel is.
Right but Hamas admitting they've lost control over 80% of Gaza is totally an indicator that they're winning the conflict there right? Right?

BOOM BOOM TEL-AVIV

>>510154028 (OP)
They had to call a ceasefire, everyone was catching on to their fake iron dome fireworks

>>510158989
>goes out of his way to glaze jewish dick and defend them
>gets called out on it
>now he tries to pretend he didn't make 7 posts glazing them
lol. LMAO even.

>>510159558
>trillion dollar military
That lost to Afghani sand farmers and got chased away 3 times by speedboats and wish drones piloted by starving yemeni's. LMAO holy shit do you even read the copes to vomit up?

>>510154346
>>510154759
Cyrus/Kourosh really made a mistake freeing you kikes from Babylonian captivity.

>>510160466
>That lost to Afghani sand farmers and got chased away 3 times by speedboats and wish drones piloted by starving yemeni's.
Why did you bring up guerilla warfare instead of a more relevant example like the initial invasion of Iraq?

>>510159558
>Again, based on what metric other than your vibes

They had objectives, they failed their objectives then cucked out.
You call that giga mega victory i call that a failure.

>And then you go on and talk about the wear and tear on Israeli aircraft which wasn't an issue last month and that Iran is buying military hardware from China which like J10s which they didn't have last month. I know your Slavic monkey brain is going to have a hard time understanding that's a contradiction, but to someone that can read and understand what he's reading, you're not making sense.

Coping nonsense.They failed the first round and are about to fail the second if Iran arms up with Chinese gear.Meanwhile the USA is running low of interceptor missiles because they can't produce shit anymore and can't sustain israels jew wars and ukraine at the same time.

>You haven't been able to clearly demonstrate where my assessment of the issue has been wrong.

Stupid projection.Tell me, if israel had Iran at their knees why did they decided to stop fighting?

>>510159920
this.
and the houthis are still firing iranian rockets into shitrael every day but if you post footage of proof you get arrested by mossad

what a fucked up shit hole place to live

>>510160755
>They had objectives, they failed their objectives then cucked out.
The Iranian foreign minister Abbas Araghchi admitted their nuclear sites were severely damaged and we both agree that this probably isn't an end to Iranian-Israeli hostilities though so... what? Or is he also a pro Israeli lunatic? Which objective did they fail?

>Coping nonsense.
You contradicting yourself is coping nonsense on my part?

>if Iran arms up with Chinese gear
But you said Iran should close the Strait of Hormuz which would cripple their economy making it harder to buy Chinese military hardware

>if israel had Iran at their knees why did they decided to stop fighting?
Probably a good number of reasons? For example they achieved their objective of delivering sustainable damage to Iran's nuclear capabilities, they showed they could launch attacks from within Iran, and they showed that they've infiltrated leadership within their country which is leverage they can use in negotiations and therefore they don't need to keep fighting for now. They can take some gains and come back later for more which is likely what they're doing.

And by the way, that's not me glazing them, that's just acknowledging what's happening. If I say the Braves beat the Cardinals today 6-5 and that's all I say about the game, that's not me glazing the Braves, that's just me acknowledging what happened. Idk why you and others in this thread have been so retarded about this point.

>>510161193
>>510160994
>>510160755
>>510160570
>>510160466
Kikes lost

>>510160640
>w-w-why
cope harder, jew lover lmao your precious jewish gods chosen lost

>>510161288
It's a shame Luther was so determined to stay within the framework of jewish fairytales.

They hate Superman because it's 100% pro-palestine.

>>510161339
No response to that question either I see.

>>510158989
By the way I called Jews bloodthirsty, genocidal terrorists in this post which many Jews would call blood libel and anuddah shoah, but, what? That's just a trick by me to try and score some points to make it look like I don't like Jews?

>>510154270
Those hypersonic hits are the best aesthetics of the war.

Israel was really struggling towards the end. The impac on its towns/cities and their lack of strategic depth was taking its toll.

>>510161193
>Which objective did they fail?

Their objective was to turn Iran into Libya 2.0 or Syria 2.0, basically a demilitarized failed state preferably with a zionist shah ruling it over.
If you think their objective was to just bomb a few nuclear facilities and temporarily pause iranian nuclear research then you are a moron.

>But you said Iran should close the Strait of Hormuz which would cripple their economy making it harder to buy Chinese military hardware

I didn't said they should but they will if the US joins in and blocks Iran's trade and israel blows up the oil infrastructure.
The Chinese can sell them gear on credit or just give it to them to bog down the USA further in the ME and making an Asia pivot impossible.

>delivering sustainable damage to Iran's nuclear capabilities

''sustainable damage''
hahahahahahahahaha

>Probably a good number of reasons? For example they achieved their objective of delivering sustainable damage to Iran's nuclear capabilities, they showed they could launch attacks from within Iran, and they showed that they've infiltrated leadership within their country which is leverage they can use in negotiations and therefore they don't need to keep fighting for now. They can take some gains and come back later for more which is likely what they're doing.

Those aren't military objectives, those are the means to achieve an objective.Those are the cards that they just played and next time it will be harder because Iran is now aware.They are shutting down those Mossad bases and rebuilding their AD.They are now also aware that attacks could come from the Caspian because the Azeris are backstabbing Turks.
Also, im not sure you noticed but this war torpedoed any negotiations.

The only thing jews achieved is to temporarily damage the nuclear facilities and legitimize the Iranian regime.
Good job jew lmao.

>>510161572
At the start they intercepted 80% of 60-80 missiles in a wave.
At the end they struggled to intercept 60% 10-20 missiles in a wave.
Their AD started to fail and they cucked out cuz a jew can't take a beating.

>>510154099
fpbp

Tkd

>>510154099
Wow...a parking lot. That's definitely an equal response to Unit 8200, Technology Park, Mossad, 1k Israelis, etc. Iran will think twice before stepping to the mighty of Lion of Judah, now!

>>510154309
i think you don't understand the balance of powers either, no offense, probably very few people are privileged or intuitive enough to know. thats because there remains so much unseen. we are left to assume and trust people who cannot be trusted when it comes to discerning where the scales are tipping. we can look at demographics, statistics, whatever data is available but.. what data isn't available? what if things change trajectory?

the ultimately goal is a deal. but like any contract, it must be made in sincerity. thats what its supposed to represent. and the problem with the globalists is they can't get the rest of the world to marry themselves into it. to submit. to join the family. the empire. and i believe it goes back to Babylon which was that one world empire. and it was broken apart, and it would seem many not like like it to be put back together again.

im not doubting the capabilities of the USA, what im trying to do is not underestimate Iran or anyone else aligned with them. it doesnt matter if they were in fact a threat or not before, this preemptive or .. defensive attack. an act of war for peace or whatever they're trying to spin it as, it could totally backfire. and only further reinforces Iran's resolve and commitment to eventually see to the death of the USA and Israel. which is confusing to me because it seems possible that Jews ultimately want the death of the West as well, the whole world really, as to finally have everyone beneath them.

im not a shill either. and i'll say i know and am intuitive enough to not trust anyone. i dont wish death upon anyone either. its unfortunate that the world has been carried away with conflict for so long. its a feedback loop of noise. people can't help but get caught up in it and for or against whatever it is. and the lengths people go to.. if only people put all that effort and resources towards more pure and wholesome things that are just beneficial to humanity and the natural world.

>>510154270
the iron homo clearly didn't work at catching flying sky-dicks.

>>510161970
>Their objective was to turn Iran into Libya 2.0 or Syria 2.0
Oh ok so now that there's a temporary ceasefire that can never happen. It's not like before Gaddafi fell or Syria erupted into civil war the US and Israel never attacked either country.

>''sustainable damage''
Oops, did I say sustainable? I meant severely. Anon don't tell me you didn't know their own foreign minister admitted to this, apparently you know what you're talking about. Don't tell me I caught you lying here

>Those aren't military objectives
Explain how

>Also, im not sure you noticed but this war torpedoed any negotiations.
Yes the foreign minister asking the US not to attack during negotiations shows a high level of distrust from the Iranians. At no point in this entire conversation did I say what Israel did was good, or right. If you pulled your head out of your ass for a moment, you could have seen that.

>>510155329
>could have
But they didn't. Because Iran used superior military force. Ergo, Iran won.

>>510156009
Based kike shill refuter

>>510156375
>You're the only one that thinks this
Not an argument

>>510162276
Yes, that's obvious. If Americans really cared about some sort of long term strategy they wouldn't have let something like BRICS come about and challenge their hegemony.

>>510162420
>But they didn't.
But that specific point was about the two nations' potentials to escalate the conflict. So it doesn't matter that they didn't, Israel still holds the greater capacity to escalate things.

>Iran used superior military force
By what metric? I know that question apparently makes me a kike shill but calling me a kike shill isn't an answer.

>>510162517
Are you just gonna spam me with (You)s?

man,kikes aren't sending their best jeet shills are they?

how it feels,Jew? to know your time at the top of running out?

say what you will, nothing stops change .
=^)

>>510162566
>Israel still holds the greater capacity to escalate things
Iran disproved that, lol.

>>510162566
The buttgoy with 20 posts is crying about spamming. Ironic.

>>510162727
So Israel doesn't have nukes? Was the Samson Option just something I heard in my dreams?

>>510154028 (OP)
will restart in sept when israel has restocked air defence missiles....bibi is more vulnerable to getting kicked out of power than an iran regime change in terms of liklihood so they can't have too many civvie hits

>>510162759
Nukes they are unwilling to use in a conflict where they are the clear and unambiguous aggressor, having started the conflict with treachery. Yes, Iran had greater ability to escalate, Israeli nukes flying would've not only signalled the end of the country, but a worldwide purge of jews.

>>510163029
Yes like I said a million times in this thread, Israel is in the wrong here. However, that does not negate the fact that they have nukes and Iran does not, so therefore in a war between the two, if you consider the use of nukes to be the ultimate escalation, Israel has the potential to escalate things the farthest. It's not hard to understand

>>510162311
>Oh ok so now that there's a temporary ceasefire that can never happen. It's not like before Gaddafi fell or Syria erupted into civil war the US and Israel never attacked either country.

nobody cares about that.israel failed the first round.

>Oops, did I say sustainable? I meant severely. Anon don't tell me you didn't know their own foreign minister admitted to this, apparently you know what you're talking about. Don't tell me I caught you lying here

You argue like a faggot.Putting things into my mouth and pretend that i said things i didn't.

>Explain how

Ok here's a simplified explanation:
>sword=means to an end
>defeating enemy with sword=the end/the objective

You still couldn't give a coherent answer.If israel dominated Iran and was about to defeat them then why did they cuck out?

>>510154346
yes, it's clear you are a kike

>>510163128
Escalation that would result in self-annihilation can hardly be considered a viable strategy.

>>510163258
>nobody cares about that.israel failed the first round.
Because some random Serb said it

>You argue like a faggot.Putting things into my mouth and pretend that i said things i didn't.
You're mad

>You still couldn't give a coherent answer.If israel dominated Iran and was about to defeat them then why did they cuck out?
My answer was coherent. This is getting boring now.

>>510163303
It still is the potential to escalate things, it doesn't matter what happens after

>>510154099
Things that happen everyday in the west because some dumb nigger don't turn off a gas pipe

>>510162747
Anon, that's called having a discussion.

>>510154028 (OP)
> Iran war was truly pathetic
Agreed, so is Ukraine.
>muh hypersonics
Until weapons are used that are at least analogous to those used on 9/11 that were able to reduce the twin towers to dust, punch holes through surrounding builds, toast/rust cars 500+ yards away, and create debris fields inconsistent with a conventional demolition, a serious war is not being fought. Give us a Seven Hour War.

>>510163410
>It still is the potential to escalate things, it doesn't matter what happens after

Said nobody in the position of making decisions, ever.

>>510154028 (OP)
>all your air defenses get destroyed
>your entire military command gets sent to Allah
>claim you've won because you damaged a refinery which will be rebuilt in a few months at most
the Global South mindset is something else fr fr

Israel's trump cards for defeating Iran are a color revolution in Iran or dragging Americans into ground warfare, but these two tricks have been overused and are too obvious, so no one fall for them so easily.
Furthermore, the disparity in national power between Iran and Israel is too great. This gap is so vast that even desperate lobbying efforts or blackmail by jewish bankers in America would fail to bridge it.
Israel has become overly dependent on the US for that, so US have gained an absolute advantage over Israel in negotiations, can now say "no" to Israel's excessive demands, such as a ground war in Iran that would cost the one regime. The US ground invasion of Iran would undoubtedly be a bloodbath, likely more than 100 times worse than Iraq.
Cunning and despicable opportunists who want to profit from their relationship with the jews do not want to commit political suicide for the sake of Israel's cause.
Therefore, the decline of American evangelicals who naively believe in Israel's cause is a fatal blow to Israel, more so than the numbers suggest. That is why Netanyahu is so desperate to provoke a war between the US and Iran that he is practically losing his mind.

>>510163410
Imagine losing an internet debate to a random Serb lmao.

>My answer was coherent. This is getting boring now.

I release you, you can go now.Run along little jewlet.

>>510163510
>Said nobody in the position of making decisions, ever.
It's not even a game of semantics, they have the potential to use nukes.

>>510163635
>Imagine losing an internet debate to a random Serb lmao.
You just demonstrated you have no idea what you're talking about, you weren't able to refute anything I said, I made a clear and coherent case for my position while showing why yours is incorrect, and you continue to not be able to support your position nor can you refute mine. If that's a victory to you, then by all means, congratulations.

>>510159371
You're right, should just wiped Tel Aviv instead.

>>510161572
They make for some kino rekt viewing. There's no way you're escaping death with one of those targeting your house hits

>>510162759
Obviously Israel having nukes didnt make Iran hesitate from pummeling the shit out of Israel with ballistic missiles. You're taking Israel's hard loss and just reframing reality to force some sort of cope. Iran rained missiles down on the Jews and they couldn't do shit about it. The fact that Israel had to back off and got absolutely none of their military objectives means they lost. Keep writing fanfiction if you want. It's not going to stop Iran's uranium enrichment, nor will it change Iran's leadership.

>>510163881
>You just demonstrated you have no idea what you're talking about, you weren't able to refute anything I said, I made a clear and coherent case for my position while showing why yours is incorrect, and you continue to not be able to support your position nor can you refute mine. If that's a victory to you, then by all means, congratulations.

You didn't even knew that israel had to circumvent Iranian AD from the Caspian to attack Teheran or that they required at least 1x air refueling to operate 1500km away from israel.You truly have no idea wtf you are talking about when you are saying that they had total air superiority and when these facts were pointed out you scaled back your claim of air superiority to ''well they demonstrated that they can hit stuff in Iran''.
First you claimed that israel won because they blew up lots of shit but when it was pointed out that they failed their objectives you said that this is only just the first round and it doesn't matter that they failed regime change in the first go.
You just constantly retreated and when you couldn't anymore you just declared victory like a retard lmao.
Go away faggot, they aren't sending their best.

>>510154028 (OP)
>Their Iran war was truly pathetic
>"s s ss some of us are still standing ! even though you carpet bombed us and destroyed everything and everyone, so we won !"
mudslimes logic, you are your own worst enemies. never change sand monkies.

>>510165101
You’re so strong kikebros. You don’t need the US help against a couple mudslimes.

>>510165101
>Watch how i rekk Iran!
>....
>Amerika!Halp!Iran ballistics my ass!

Jews faced Aryans again and their orange child-raping golem had to save them after two weeks lmao

>>510154028 (OP)
I think that the whole Jewish empire is basically fucked at this point because they robbed all of the nations within it and left them with nothing.
The UK is a fucking joke, the military is completely hollowed out and the nation is either on the verge of bankruptcy or already bankrupt. We're already in a position where it's less financially profitable to work a minimum wage jobs than it is to be on benefits.
America is in an even worse position because it's exponentially larger and has more foreigners and more debt.

The Jews wield a lot of power but they're still religious extremists and they make retarded decisions based on their religious fanaticism.

it is rather funny when you consider iran has zero help, whereas israel is propped entirely by the us and has help from all the good goys around them

>>510166543
The jews know that the western empire is going down so they are now racing to establish israel as the hegemon in the middle east and switch alliance to China or Russia.
But before this happens they are milking as much resources,wealth,technology from the west as they can.

>>510166794
Seems like an insanely bad idea considering how small their population is and how vulnerable it is to attack.
I wish them godspeed in this endeavour.

>>510162276
>if only people put all that effort and resources towards more pure and wholesome things that are just beneficial to humanity and the natural world.
>.
stopped reading here

>>510154028 (OP)
We didn’t support it.

>>510154173
Jews are like kid who grown out to be a psychopath because he was raped by his father (Europeans).

>>510167808
The Azeris did so that means you did too.

>>510154028 (OP)
AAAH! What did you do with Seal of Solomon? Demons will be free !

>>510154309
There's no universe in which israel would've stopped the war if they were at all in a winning position.
There are hundreds of reasons for them to seek any possible avenue of dismantling Iran, at the forefront of it netenyahu's desperation for any semblance of a win to avoid his inevitable downfall domestically.
Give your head a shake and use basic pattern recognition.

>>510154309
>iron dome
Pro tip guys you can disregard any retard who talks about this, the iron dome has NOTHING to do with the Iran conflict.

American THAAD did the heavy lifting and they burned through nearly 18 months production in 12 days

Israel had control of western iranian airspace but had no real countermeasures of the 20-30k missiles available to iran.

Not even gonna mention the decade old spy network israel used, the goal was regime change (name rising lion, look at old iranian flag)
It failed.

Nuclear facilities still available, uranium still available, and now no IAEA to spy on Iran for Israel.

Now they can build a nuke in even more secrecy.

Total strategic failure

>>510167808
Oh sure, absolutely no radar in the border mountains right