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There's niggers posting in this general right now.
It's me.
I'm the nigger.
thx baker bro. victory for russia and all it's supporters.
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>>510158419Not gay though.
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I'm off to teach 19-20 year old women how to draw. Have fun /chug/. Don't give shills (you)s.
>>510158449How'd you feel if you didn't eat breakfast yesterday?
>>510158156 (OP)The US just developed a counter to quadcopers and FPV drones. Ukrainians and Russians have just been too stupid to figure this out: x.com/Osinttechnical/status/1943876049802064248?
>>510158156 (OP)Z
I denounce the Talmud
>>510158432>WHY DIDN'T THE XRUKS JUST DRIVE AROUNDthey don't have the super-secret NAFO training that allows them to do that
they haven't unlocked this skill tree yet
>>510158100>Active Club adjacentprobably
shartinez perspective lives in canada if memory doesn't fail me
>azog shill is also part of a fed honey pot shocking
>>510158331>heavily armored vehicle that can reach speeds of 60kmh on road and has a smoothbore cannon capable of shooting both shells and guided missiles>can navigate very challenging terrain and can serve as a platform for anything you can tie to it or anyone who can grab onto itNeed I mention that drones have only a 1/10 chance to disable a tank and the kill videos you see are the outcome of hundreds of FPVs being used daily across the entire front line?
I'm not even autistic about it, I'm just a realist. Everyone always thinks about tanks in the context of (You) having the perfect counter. But what if you don't? Or what if you miss? Now you are naked against a rolling mountain of steel. Good luck!
>>510158525They took 100 meters in only 2 weeks?
Impressive.
>>510158795The pen is mightier than the bomb and China can't even make pen tips.
>NEW BAKER NEEDED
NEW BAKER NEDED
>NEW BAKER NEEDED
NEW BAKER NEDED
>>510158454Is she nipping out?
>>510158921where you looking at? pls..come ooon
>>510158729>Need I mention that drones have only a 1/10 chance to disableSo $5k/drone x 10 = $50k for a 100% kill. How much is a Javelin? $400k for the missile & launcher? Plus risk to anti-tank crew? How much is Leopard 2a7? $25 million?
>>510153160Sup, that's me. I lived in alberta for a decade (cold, full of hohols) and ontario for two (was nice until the jeetswarm, now is utterly unlivable).
Been to quebec on daytrips a couple times, looks nice, the people are faggots though. Some random bitch started yelling at us in a parking lot cause we didn't speak french when she asked us for directions
/chug/, /uhg/ and generally the entirety of /pol/ is for the weak to flood it with tears and violent fantasies
>>510159004If you see a girl with a giant hairy mole on her face, where to your eyes inevitably go?
https://youtu.be/-H-cWXr-n5I
> Poles are training on inflatable boats for the entry into Kaliningrad
>NASA FIRMS data shows that fires are burning at two points from last night's combined missile and drone attack on Ukraine.
>In the city of Lutsk, Volyn Oblast a large fire is burning at the Lutsk Motor Repair Plant and the neighbouring former 37th Missile Division Base (50.767594, 25.3432247). They were both previously hit in the missile and drone attack on July 9. While no missiles impacts were recorded here, roughly 36 Geran-2 drones hit targets in the city, including this area.
>In the city of Lviv, a large fire is burning at the "Concern Electron" Plant (49.842234, 24.000737) after it was hit by 2 Kh-101 cruise missiles and several Geran-2 drones.
>Other missile impacts probably occurred outside the city limits of Lutsk, while only 2 missiles flew to targets Lviv Oblast in total, both of which impacted.
darn illegal war criminals did it again
>>510159174>So $5k/drone x 10 = $50k for a 100% killThat's not how probability works, anon.
I mean, holy shit if you think having 1/10 chance of winning just means you gotta play 10 times for a sure thing then I sure fucking hope you never gamble because you'll be a great paypiggie.
Also that's just the stats we have for a mobility kill.
>>510159330based af. he wasted her
>>510158156 (OP)why did this russian die for
@shilltroon brigade
weekend retards. you'll get no money
Are you staying sharp anons?
Why has the past two weeks, pol has been flooded with uhg spam?
During the entire Israel/Iran war I didn't see one single thread about Russia and now it's 10 every single day
Nothing has even happened so why are they sperging out?
>>510159650maybe they just got their paycheck
why is sucky butthurt again?
>>510159608I miss when terminal levels of faggotry just meant those niggers got AIDS and died instead of becoming twitter fellas
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>>510159608absolutely!
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>>510159368Whats the difference between a cruise missle, a fab, a khinzal? We should have a chart
>>510159406>That's not how probability works, anon.Do the math, I'll wait. With a 10% probability of a "mobility kill" from one drone attack, how many drones on average are needed to achieve a 99% "mobility kill" on a tank.
A mobility kill inreases the odds of a subsequent hardkill severalfold if they are in contested territory.
Tanks are tarantulas and drones are parasitic wasps. The only difference is the drones don't need the tanks to reproduce.
>>510159848wikipedia is your friend
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>summer ukraine offensive forming?
>this would be a great area for a counter attack for the following reasons.
>1. the trenches and bunkers russia took are facing the wrong way.
>2. air defense and artillery dont have strong coverage there.
>3. the russian units are tired and under supplied
>4. ukraine can have air support in the area
>5. ukraine has supporting fires on 3 sides
>6. ukraine is moving in some of there best units.
>7. russia has not had time to lay mines or wire
>8 ukraine knows the area
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>>510159886not really, they have a lot of jews doing edits
ibelieved that...when i was 11y. grim..like with santa claus
>>510159946This nigger is really committed to TOTAL hohol death. Did Mykola fuck his mom or something?
>The Russian Foreign Ministry also visited the new resort in North Korea and noted that Russian tourists will increasingly strive to visit it.
Total Relaxing Vacation
>>510160062I kind of feel bad for Kim. Hes one small man, fighting against all of globohomo, trying to make a nice world for his people but limited by jewish sanctions and limited resources and the need to place military first
>>510159470your dead hohol storage xir
>>510159608I can't believe people take some randos on twatter seriously
it could be anyone
12 year old sperg, jeet, bot
People go into lengthy discussions instead of just thinking to themselves what a retard
>>510159946>1. the trenches and bunkers russia took are facing the wrong way.I couldnt read past this line
How do the Ukranians even keep Vovchans'k with all the bridges out? I think if Kupyansk falls they would just send the extra troops there.
>>510159946I think hrukryine should commit to a massive offensive on all fronts
I think it can be called "Schweinerschlacht", "Syrski Offensive", something like that
>>510159863Holy shit we are back in elementary school math territory.
>how many drones on average are needed to achieve a 99% "mobility kill" on a tankAnywhere from 1 to infinity because each drone has a 10% chance of a mobility kill as the success of each hit is INDEPENDENT from each previous attempt.
Let me put it another way: if you have a 10 sided dice how many times do you have to roll it to guarantee a result of "10"?
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>>510160237I mean, imagine this is not a random retard on twatter
>>510159962>not really, they have a lot of jews doing editsFor straight technical questions, wiki isn't bad.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geiger_counter
For anything controversial/political, it either doesn't exist, or the exact opposite is most likely the truth.
The anon was asking basic technical questions that wikipedia would make a decent starting point.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cruise_missile
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kh-47M2_Kinzhal
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FAB-500
>>510160237>>510159608My favorite is when someone reports some setback and those retarded boomers say
>don't say this! the russians might see itas if they're receiving super-secret intel over twitter that a nation-state with an intelligence agency would somehow be unaware of
>>510159970I hate that show so much. It was peak American hubris of a bunch of portal tards barging in on alien world and insisting they live according to wectoid standards for rights and laws.
>>510160302isn't that run by some jeet femoid or something?
official accounts are full of retardation too but you can figure out who or what institution is not credible (all of them)
>>510160294>success of each hit is INDEPENDENT from each previous attemptpretty sure anyone would start slowly panicking when they're being directly attacked by something, which could influence their next moves
>>510159608jeetmonitor lol
>>510159650discord is getting butthurt for some reason
it's a new NAFO discord (after the one in 2022 got exposed)
or it's shartinez perspective discord
see
>>510157048>>510157127>>510157947
>>510160292Porkshturm is ready for the ultimate sacrifice
>>510160369Yeah but its comfy and has cute chicks
>>510160444Anon, this is a question of statistics. The leaf claimed the equivalent of "if you roll a 10 sided die 10 times then you're GUARANTEED to get a 10".
>>510160294You're obfuscating. You're confusing the coin flip probability, (10 coin flips give heads, what is the probability the next coin will hit tails? STILL only 50%) with a D10 die multiple roll where the probability of rolling a 0 is 10% and you're suggesting there is NO average number of rolls you could make that would have a 99% chance of landing a 10.
You're just wrong, and you likely believe you are more intelligent than you might actually be. We call people who do this midwits, and they are very often wrong.
>>510160451Jeets do integrate well with sewer systems
They both stink like shit
>>510159354>Listened to Anglos againWhen will they learn?
>>510160369>I hate that show so much.Some people contend that the series was some form of soft disclosure.
>>510160598>The leaf claimed the equivalent of "if you roll a 10 sided die 10 times then you're GUARANTEED to get a 10".I was sloppy with my wording. There is SOME number of attacks that will result in a 99% chance of a "mobility kill". You can even additionally qualify it with 19 times of 20 if it makes the calculation easier.
You claim to know the "elementary" math, give me the fucking numbers or admit you can't do it.
>>510160633>Jeets do integrate well with sewer systemsJeets don't do sewers.
>>510160919I heard that they do them in it....
As a sewage treatment plant worker i dont know why it people dig sewers but anything that allows shit to get to my plant is good
>>510161006When one thing is for sure, Jeets are not scared of shit.
>1,000 Leopard 2A8 main battle tanks, along with 2,500 Boxer wheeled armored vehicles and several hundred Puma infantry fighting vehicles
It's over for Putler this time
>>510161006>As a sewage treatment plant workerThe polack is a poop smith. The memes writes themsleves.
>>510160369>I hate that show so muchhow dare you. it's one of the bestest shows in the world
>>510161156Hey.. money dont stink
And somebody has to do it
>>510160294>>510160610>>510160855this is a question of 'probability distribution' and the eggheads have already figured out multiple mathematical formulas for it
also this is high school level math, not elementary
Zogbots finally rewarded for their loyalty to Israel with a patch.
Not sure if being in receiving end of Iranian missiles is worth it, even the Qatar base had their radar blown up despite initial claims of no damage.
>>510158156 (OP)Z
Torah denounced
>>510160423ISW is the Kagans
>>510160367Kek, they're just retarded, but let's assume for just a second that they are indeed le hackerman with le top secret hidden info.
Wouldn't the fucking Russians who are in the *front lines* be able to tell immideatly if Jewkranians retreated?
This isn't even some high effort scouting, drones with cams everywhere for that job
>>510159946>>3. the russian units are tired and under supplied
And the ukrainians aren't?
>>510160369>the snek (jewish parasite) worship will stop>nooooolmao
Atlantis was way worse. Gayshep went full murika on multiple industrialized planets and stole their shit.
>>510160062Not enough roads and parking. Is that a fucking airport right next to it? Hope whoever designed this will be given the chance to learn and not just get shot.
>>510161436>Wouldn't the fucking Russians who are in the *front lines* be able to tell immideatly if Jewkranians retreated?It's the craziest damn thing but I keep seeing it. like they don't understand that the Russians know these things, and the Ukrainians know these things, because they're there, and actually the only people who wouldn't find out if it hadn't been tweeted are twitter boomers
I guess to the TV Generation, getting news in little bits from the internet must feel like some super-secret hackerman intel club
>>510161487Agreed. Watch Farscape or Lexx
>>510160444>pretty sure anyone would start slowly panicking when they're being directly attacked by something, which could influence their next movesThat's an interesting point. Each attack would not only possibly degrade the crew response as you pointed out, but also potentially damage the tank hull, air intake, and sensors, redering the tank more susceptible to subsequent attacks, so that would increase the probability of a hard or soft kill from susequent attacks.
My point in all this is there will be a calculable average cost in drones to kill an average tank and that number will be a fraction of the tank cost + crew training cost.
Scaling it up means that tank warfare as we know it is going to go away. It will be completely over for tanks once inexpensive (<100K) autonomous drones can independently hunt and hard kill (with 50% probability) tanks.
We're already seeing the end of combat aircraft over non-permissive airspace. Russia doesn't fly over contested airspace, and it turns out Israel did NOT do combat missions over Iranian airspace.
>But muh B2 attack...There are reports the Americans warned the Iranians that B2s would be hitting specific targets, so there is some question as to whether the Irainians even tried to use AD defences against them. Alastair Crooke suggests that the Russians advised the Iranians to just let the Americans bomb and go. Iran reportedly subsequently warned the Americans in advance of the retaliatory rocket attack that resulted in no damage and no causualties.
TLDR: Sorry treadheads, tanks look to go the way of bayonets and horse cavalry charges.
>>510157771>>lmfao casket on 4 wheel chink truck>>inb4 36o.ooo$ per unit for a bigger casket for fat muttsMay I offer you a stripped-down civilian SUV for $612K?
Orthodox Christians are just Messianic Jews
>>510161545>Is that a fucking airport right next to it?Resort visitors must be vigorously defended from western imperialists
>The Wonsan-Kalma Airfield is reportedly home to a MiG-21 fighter regiment comprised of two squadrons and a MiG-15/17 Operational Conversion Unit. The bulk of these units are rarely observed in the open, as the airfield has tunnel aircraft storage located at the southwest end of the airfield.
>>510159174>How much is a Javelin? $400k for the missile & launcher?Fun fact: Saint Javelina has a 19% hit rate (not kill, hit) in ideal conditions.
Bonus fun fact: there isn't a single video of a Javelin destroying a Russian tank in the SMO.
>>510161545You don't need much for roads in Best Korea. You get on bus, bus takes you to approved 'recreation point" you get out of bus, do approved recreation for allotted time, get on bus, go to approved rest place, get off bus, go into approved rest place for prescribed amount of time until next bus arrives to take you to next approved recreation location.
How much need for roads? Do you think any normal "Best Koreans" will be using facilities built for Russian tourists?
>t.has been to Cuba as a tourist.
>>510161855>mig21they should market this resort to plane autists, they would even enjoy the noise
>510161816
>last thread I defended Trump, then railed against muslims, now I will rail against Orthos
>>510161965You're a gypsy. A Greekroach. You should bury yourself beneath Mount Sinai before some bunker busters hit it.
>>510161931But there is a video of a Javelin hitting a T90, not destroying, but hitting it.
That one vid of the Russian tankers going "what the fuck" when the missile tunnels through the roof and floor, doing fuck all really.
The last Russian aircraft carrier will be scrapped, most likely used to make new cope cages
>>510161697The US is poised to start bombing Yemen again.
The Israelis requested for it after the sinking of two cargo ships with links to trading with Israel and a ballistic missile hit on Israels main airport at Ben Gurion.
It's hard to tell how much resources the orange nigger will sink into bombing Yemen this time, the US gave up after a month the last time
>>510161937>been to Cuba as a tourist.sounds like one of those pre-planned tourist trips that old people like
>>510161782>May I offer you a stripped-down civilian SUV for $612K?Taxpayer rape is becoming a team sport.
>let's take the body panels and all features off a $140k G-Wagon and charge $600k in quantity.
>the 30% F-35 availability was rightNow this is a good scam.
>>510159174The offered price for non-NATO customer in 2023 was 300k per unit + 5 year wait time.
>>510161782And people dare to question why Europe is so hellbent on THD. This is literal robbery. Europe has just discovered the MIC meme.
>>510161816>Orthodox Christians are just Messianic JewsNo. Certian Evangelical Christians call/consider themselves messianic jews.
>>510162136Invisibleโข cope triangle status?
You must settle the bill
This has been a news exclusive
>>510162132There was also a clip of an ukrainian shooting an NLAW at a T72 from too close and the NLAW doing what it does best, failing to destroy the tank.
There was a 3rd clip where 3 Russian tanks were driving along a road and a missile coming at one of the from the woods next to the road.
Active protection did its thing, the tanks immediately turned towards the woods and drove front first into the ditch, firing into the woods and turning the whole forest into a fireball.
Still looking for that clip.
Meat waves have been confirm once again
Cluster Kh-101 in Chernovtsy
https://files.catbox.moe/0w97mv.mp4
>>510161931>Fun fact: Saint Javelina has a 19% hit rate (not kill, hit) in ideal conditions.Someday the average burger will realize that one of the purposes of wars is to sell munitions.
War is a Racket. (Smedley Butler)
>510161816
They're the only church to openly and blatantly state that jews are in absolute error kek
>>510162218On vacation in India.
>>510162136I wonder why that is?
>be Poo
>take off
>cut fuel line
>kill 260 people
PROFIT
>>510162285Not enough watermarks could actually see the vid
>>510162136>The offered price for non-NATO customer in 2023 was 300k per unit + 5 year wait time.we're gonna need a longer ceasefire...Is that a fixt price, or subject to inflation?
>>510162443Nice bants!
Apparently bongs demanded India not bring S-400 to the area
>Stop looking at my plane, it's Invisibleโข!
>>510162337Probably find itโs the mobile phone industry .
>>510162235I'll pay extra for a PKM. I've got time to kill.
>>510162488>be bingboing>bin your faultiest planes to shitistans>blame retards when they crashits the same shit as with cars, if they pass quality control perfectly they are exported to the west, if its missing a few screws and the door is barely holding on it goes to hungry.
>>510162488Wait so it was intentional?
>>510162285I can't clearly read the watermark, there is to much distracting content in the background, but I can't quite make it out, can anyone tell me what I'm supposed to read?
>>510162108The Kuznetsov, cool as it is, is just a moneydrain. Better to scrap it and divert money to building new destroyers and cruisers.
>>510162447Look, we know why the kikes pull off this shit, whites just better than them, remove competition, etc.
But i wonder what goes through the head of a traitor, of a banker, who is white, and genuinely, and openly, supports their own extinction.
Like how? Is it money? Clearly isn't because they keep doing it therefore they don't get paid enough to live their entire lives without working, is it women? Clearly not because most of them don't have any kids at all.
I utterly believe it's the devil, it's the only logical explanation behind it
>>510162443Jeets are gonna shit on/in it, aren't they? Can't the UK hire one of those giant Russian helicopters to lift it onto their damn boat?
>>510162678Yes. The fuel cutoffs are under those metal flip switches so you cannot unintentionally turn them off. The co-pilot was flying the plane and he was 32. It was a suicide.
>>510162811>what goes through the head of a traitor, of a banker, who is white, and genuinely, and openly, supports their own extinction.At least me and my kids are doing okay. At best the short term boomer mentality. What about the grandkids?
Who cares.
>>510158729Ukranda published that one specific Russian T-72 with a shed used in an assault absorbed 60 drone hits before stopping. Calling it the โmonster tankโ or something.
But yeah the sheds are very effective, and even cope cages are quite good against average drone operators who have to work harder to get a good hit.
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SUPER HAPPY DICK HARDENING NEWS
THE UKROP MANACE
UKROPS STRIKE BACK
REVENGE OF THE UKROP
In a recent decapitating strike on the 155th Guards Naval Infantry Brigade in Kursk, Ukraine eliminated already 4 high irreplaceable high ranking military officers.
Among which are:
Major General Mikhail Gudkov
Colonel Sergey Ilin
Colonel Leonid Bashkardin
Colonel Nariman Shikhaliev
The morale and discipline among the troops took a massive nosedive.
Putin extremely worried if he can keep his troops on track.
>>510163008funny thing, it was stopped by a mine.
>>510162811The elite see niggers as biological weapons to use against the working classes.
They tell themselves that they are insulated: living in white neighbourhoods with high walls, using private healthcare. The only niggers they are likely to see is some cleaner at the golf or tennis club.
>>510162929I dont like indians but what a fucking asshole
>>510162755>The Kuznetsov, cool as it is, is just a moneydrain.In the age of hypersonics, aircraft carriers are as useful as a bayonet charge. Their ONLY utility is a mobile aircraft platform. ONE hit on the flightdeck/catapult/ramp takes away 100% of the utility, leaving only liabiliies.
Not even mobility kill, just a cratered flight deck. If there are planes airborne and don't have fuel to land on a friendly airbase, that could get kind of expensive.
How many hypersonics would you have to launch assuming a 10% probability of a hit to take out a carrier with 99% certainty?
Where is our resident math expert?
>>510161782>IEDs kill our light trucksLet's add moar armour
>FPVs penetrate our armourLet's make our light trucks moar nimble
And so the cycle repeats
>>510161118And they will crew them all with the ghosts of Aryan manhood.
>>510163008>Russian T-72 with a shed used in an assault absorbed 60 drone hits before stopping.$5k/drone x 60 = $300k which is less than two Javelins.
>>510163075oh yeah I forgot about that part.
>>510163165>I dont like indians but what a fucking assholeHe even got 19 people on the ground. One passenger survived though.
>The Air India flight โ a Boeing 787-8 Dreamliner โ crashed on June 12 and killed at least 260 people, including 19 on the ground, in Ahmedabad. Only one passenger survived the crash, which is one of Indiaโs worst aviation disasters. The plane was carrying 230 passengers โ 169 Indians, 53 British, seven Portuguese and a Canadian โ along with 12 crew members.
>>510163271I can see all the electrons leaked out of that giant hole.
>>510163405>oh yeah I forgot about that part.Mine laying drones? I don't know what the smallest shaped charge needed to do a mobility kill on a tank. 5kg enough?
>>510162447Just in time logistics to eliminate warehouse cost so profit graph go up.
Not just in the west even here JIT is pushed as measuring stick of 'effeciency' or 'cost cutting' by treating machines of war with gorillion moving parts the same way as bread factory making fast moving stocks daily.
The end result is we have about 2 weeks worth of ammo and parts.
>Who needs small arms ammo plants, just make them small scale for training needs and order from overseas if necessary We are gonna be so screwed if Indonesia invade.
>>510162559Not sure that was only for 2023 since the politicians who fell for Javelin propaganda demanded the army replace their expiring Metis ATGM with fire and forget missiles.
End up with Turkish Karaok at 185k per unit, just don't tell Indonesia we only have 20 ATGM launcher and the only SAM available is Starstreak.
>>510162285Just like the TLAM. I heard of the capability before but never saw it until now.
>>510163617Holy shit Russia will literally conquer the world. Does no one take war material seriously but them?
>>510163617Who is going to be the first country to dump the F-35 boondoggle? Even the $400k helmets look ugly.
>>510163008>>510163075>Ukranda published that one specific Russian T-72 with a shed used in an assault absorbed 60 drone hits before stopping. Calling it the โmonster tankโ or something.
>>510163721You can't opt out.
>Moscow. July 12. INTERFAX.RU - U.S. President Donald Trump is considering providing Kyiv with a new military assistance package worth hundreds of millions of dollars, Politico reported, citing informed sources.
Seems like Trump is obeying the deep state and willing to escalate
But doing it through Germany like a jew
>Moscow, July 12. INTERFAX.RU - Germany will assist Ukraine by financing the supply of long-range missile systems, with the first shipments expected to arrive as early as the end of July, reported General Christian Freuding, head of the Special Staff for Ukraine at the German Ministry of Defense.
>>510163954>You can't opt out.Like Hotel California or getting a sex change.
lets check todays hohols schizophrenia:
Russia used 339 drones, 258 of them were decoys, 81 combat. hohols shot down 61 of them.
Russia used 284 rockets. hohol shot down 25.
overall air defense "effectiveness" is only 55% down from 95% few days ago.
photoshop guy forgot his meds and on his way to Konstantinovka.
https://files.catbox.moe/4jwl7h.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/pe8ibd.mp4
>>510163684Blame Japan for inventing kaizen (continuous improvement) idea
>We must continuously improve>That logistics unit with reinforced bunkers? Trim them>Internet of things and network centric warfare will ensure demand transmitted and supplies delivered just like AmazonNobody thought of the possibility
that Jamal builds hypersonic ballistic missiles and shoot the depot from 3000km away.
Once a country's economy goes into service there is no turning back, no worries though you won't alone in the coffin.
https://files.catbox.moe/s5lg3i.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/22xy34.mp4
>>510164297Smoker of Kiev is having a blast
>>510163305The 900000 volkssturm army built by rationing and conscription.
>Govt ensure one hot meal a dayTake that Putler
>>510164309Capitalism = deindustrialisation. It's a jewish anti-economic anti-system that cargo cultists, such as liberals - who think manufactured goods grow on store, shelves adore and worship. I see you fell for it too.
Imagine, as a society, thinking you don't need industry and deindustrialisation is le good.
Only cargo cult pale niggers (libtards) could.
HOW TO TROLL THE DOJ
>Send the already leaked pages of the Epsteins contact book from a few years back to as many starving political streamers as possible
>Sell it as the 2025 DOJ list leak exclusive just for them
>Watch them all mass signal it for updoots like crabs in a bucket
Weaponised memoryholes.
Art of the deal.
>>510164413>russia has no chance against mighty nato>they cant even defeat tiny weak ukraine>prepare to confiscate the grain and hide it in the secret stockpiles>the war will be over by hannukahg*rmans are funny
>>510164309Kaizen, six sigma, 5s, etc. The majority of the fake and gay production "improvements" started in nipland, honestly america should have nuked them more
>>510163617>We are gonna be so screwed if Indonesia invadethey don't because they do same thing
but a group of anglo football hooligans could conquer your country before they got sober
its same here
only reason our government is still in power is because we still have bread and circuses
but they made bread expensive and circuses gay so we might see all of government chucked into english channel and there is no force in this country that could stop it
>>510158572>One-half foodball field in front of noseWhat the fuck is this? How do you figure out length of a football field at the range? What happened to leading by multiples of the figure size?
>Aim 5cm above the camera when shooting at quad.Riight, we know that IRL tankers don't aim at visor ports or other weak spots, they always shoot center mass, but suddenly they advice picture sub inch perfect shot placement on a tiny drone. Who wrote this BS?
>>510163482>I can see all the electrons leaked out of that giant hole.It's an electron hole
>>510159901Zelensky experience simulator?
>>510164569Spent way too much on mono resource that collapsed rapidly causing backlash to services.
Our tin was rendered obsolete by aluminium and rubber by artificial rubber so survival requires pushing for services. Even in the 80's the govt realised a mass of 50million is minimum to produce a powerful enough industrial base and consumer demand, without that once market goes global they will be eaten by globohomo.
Too late now, fertility rate already at 1.8 and declining rapidly. Such is the life of extra background characters.
>>510165034As an electrical engineer the concept of electron holes to model the flow of positive charge always made me irrationally angry. Just throw a minus sign on and make it flow the opposite direction you absolute fucking troglodytes
>>510160302obviously its written by a drooling retard, but the point he is trying and failing to make *could* be legit - basically holding onto everything no matter how costly and unimportant.
the hilarious part is that he is completely incapable of properly expressing even so simple a concept.
>>510164946>but they made bread expensive and circuses gay so we might see all of government chucked into english channel and there is no force in this country that could stop itYou won't do shit except maybe kneel for niggers.
>>510164309>Once a country's economy goes into service there is no turning back, no worries though you won't alone in the coffin.A short term productivity boost with long term permanent fragility. Ie, easy for the system to break down in catastrophic ways.
>>510165195>Our tin was rendered obsolete by aluminium and rubber by artificial rubber so survival requires pushing for services.Survival under the capitalist model.
>Even in the 80's the govt realised a mass of 50million is minimum to produce a powerful enough industrial base and consumer demand, without that once market goes global they will be eaten by globohomo.If you play the capitalist game, yes. All countries that try and play the capitalist game necessarily also try and engage in global commerce. And that's when and how they get fucked.
Fools fall for it every single fucking time, again and again.
>Too late now, fertility rate already at 1.8 and declining rapidly. It's never too late. It's a problem of the psyche, that's it.
>Such is the life of extra background characters.Those who refuse to educate themselves and learn will be extincted by the jews, lured in by short term promises of plenty and pleasure.
>>510164413it's hilarious how this isn't even happening in Russia and yet they are preparing plans to do it
>>510165034Building is now a P-type.
>>510165505It's the German government propagandizing their citizens in order to justify laundering money through the MIC with kickbacks to politician offshore bank accounts.
>>510165391Do not drone the bunnies!
>>510165201Some researchers (Structured Atomic Model) believe that there is no "positron" particle, rather it's an atom that steals an electron. Completely different concept than Electron holes because it involves nuclear transmutation.
https://youtu.be/1p82NMNRr6U
>>510162577>>Stop looking at my plane, it's Invisibleโข!S-400 is bad at roleplaying
>>510162795what about pkps? they are /c/ute too!
>>510165505In fairness they do have to prep because Lavrov and the RF elites have flustered about invading Berlin before. It is not irrational to build up defenses.
>>510165505I find it remarkable just how delusional our politicians are. I suspect if an intelligent /pol/ack sat down for an informal discussion with senior politicians and bureaucrats, they would be shocked at how stupid they actually are in real life.
>>510165450The leaf goldbug, is that you?
>>510086155>You're confusing cause and effect.You are.
>The ability to run huge deficits [..] is a FEATURE of fiat currency.A feature of capitalism. Capitalism is fiat currency or even fictional fiat currency as legal tender.
Ignoring waste, what's the difference between the government continually borrowing (mostly fictional) fiat currency into existence and circulation from banks and perpetually rolling its debt to banks over and the private sector doing the same thing?
In capitalism, without borrowing, there's no legal tender supply growth.
Without legal tender supply growth, there's no financial profit for the for-financial-profit operated economy of capitalism.
>Hard money prevents thisHard money prevents capitalism. Which is why it always gets supplemented with fictional money (fiat currency) as acceptable, spendable fiat currency.
>because there is a FINITE supply, and when the supply gets tight,1. Circulating supply or the total supply?
2. Without fiat currency, the supply is always tight because there is no money for profits without constantly creating more money at an ever accelerating rate.
>interest rates rise which acts as a natural equilibrium mechanism to constrict uneconomic expansion.Passive income, including from interest, is anti-civilisation.
>Similarly, using a gold or silver standard for internatiional trade prevents massive trade imbalancesThis we can agree on. But only if the payment is in physical turned over.
>that we see with the USA. If you need to pay physical gold/silver for your international trade, your exports NEED to at least balance your imports.Unless you mine massive amounts of gold every year.
>run a surplus,Exporting the problem of no money for profits.
>but you CANNOT run deficits or you run out of gold/silver.You can if you allow claims to/receipts for gold or silver to be used in lieu of.
>It's worked for centuries.lol, no. It's never worked. Always goes fiat currency.
>>510165917>The leaf goldbug, is that you?
>>510165886>I find it remarkable just how delusional our politicians are.Not anymore delusional than the cargo cult libtard population who thinks (mostly fictional) fiat currency is wealth, deindustrialisation is le good, everything becoming luxuries (including energy, transportation and food) is le good, importing infinity niggers and browns is le good etc.
>I suspect if an intelligent /pol/ack sat down for an informal discussion with senior politicians and bureaucrats, they would be shocked at how stupid they actually are in real life.Or the /pol/ack might be shocked to realise it's all down intentionally, knowingly and premeditatedly and hurting their own population is the actual goal and not just a dumb mistake they keep making over and over again.
>>510165588The river crossing was Bong idea.
>Let's kayak 800m wide river>Then attrition warfare the Russian>This will mousetrap them then to Crimea
>>510165886>if an intelligent /pol/ack sat down for an informal discussion with senior politicians and bureaucrats, they would be shocked at how stupid they actually are in real life.Reminder we had Liz Truss as our Prime Minister for a very brief period. She's properly thick.
>>510166039Politicians are retards, their only skill is backstabbing and their only rule is absolute lack of rules or morals
Just look at our cabinet, literal idiots
David Lammy is 100% clueless nigger, Rachel Reeves recently tanked the pound because she broke down in parliment after realising she is way over her head
There are some malicious cunts there but 99% of them is in politics because they couldn't get anywhere else
Russia is pretty embarrassing
>>510163074so, what happened to sergei, pedokraut?
>>510164198>overall air defense "effectiveness" is only 55% down from 95% few days ago.KEK
I already predicted this cope on my official NAFO list of lies
possible future NAFO statements:
>we don't need pokrovsk anyways >we don't need kostiantynivka anyways>the tariffs will save ukranda>90~95% interception rate against missiles, every kinzhal intercepted>okay, maybe we don't have 90~95% interception rate [YOU ARE HERE]>okay, maybe we can't intercept shit, but we never said we had a 90~95% interception rate>we don't need ukraine anyways>actually we won somehow>okay, maybe we lost, but we could have won if we wanted to>okay, we couldn't win even if we wanted to, but we only lost because the west didn't send enough weapons
>>510166240I thought they already scrapped it. Probably canโt afford to even scrap it. Might as well let it rust out in dry dock
>>510158572>one-half football fieldhow about to measure speed and course of the target by laser and only then make calculations?
Deep State confirms. They acknowledged it so quick it is likely even worse in this sector.
>>510164801>america should have nuked them moreb-but my anime?
>>510165917>picmy beloved daughter-wife
the US & all it's allies lost to yemen, which has no navy or airforce.
>>510166028You have this emotional attachment and investment into sound money. Which is preventing you from seeing further or anything else.
You want sound money but, at best, all you'll get is claims to or receipts for gold or silver supposedly present in a bank vault. Which will enable banks to create fictional gold or silver in the bank vault by issuing unbacked claims or receipts to such, or claims to receipts to someone else's gold or silver. So basically rehypothecation and fraud.
Then the amount of receipts or claims to gold or silver in the bank vault will continue to grow geometrically to allowed the for-financial-profit operating model of capitalism to continue.
Which will cause inflation.
Eventually, periodicaly, the banking system and government will have to admit that they've been fraudulently issuing claims to or receipts for fictional gold and silver or gold and silver already owned by others and owed to multiple parties multiple times over. They'll gradually have to lower the amount of gold or silver backing each monetary unit over time (because the amount of monetary units will grow geometrically over time but the actual amount of physical gold or physical silver, in the vaults of the banking system, will not grow geometrically) until, eventually, they'll have to altogether formally and officially completely remove your right to redeem your monetary units for the physical gold or silver supposedly backing them.
All of this has happened before and will happen again. You are advocating a repeating of history and a reset of the capitalist scam instead of moving beyond it.
The only way to move beyond it is to move beyond money.
Why is it necessary to move beyond money?
1. To stop the stopping and prevention of real, useful, necessary economic activity from being performed due to lack of money or lack of financial profitability.
2. To stop the passive income of parasites discouraging actual labour and real production, real output, real economic activity
i think lindsey hates russia because they killed one or more of his rentboys
>>510165917>Capitalism is fiat currency or even fictional fiat currency as legal tender.Finally getting some definitions from you. No capitalism is the free market.
Two farmers, one with a cow, and another with some chickens, trading eggs and chicken for milk and butter freely, and with no coercion or government involvement is free market capitalism.
As soon as the government issues money (even if it is gold or silver) AND legal tender laws to enforce acceptance, the market is no longer completely free. If the government start setting minimum/maximum prices, requires llicensing for producers, the market becomes less and less free.
When the government issues fiat currency and forces people using threat of jail to accept it, the government is basing all commerce on a commodity (fiat) that the government controls the supply of, and manipulates for the benefit of insiders, (who are often, but not always Jewish) to the detriment of the general population.
By this point the system cannot be called free market capitalism, it's a mixed economy with some freedoms, and some government controls. In the USA, the turning point from then the system went from mostly free, with some controls, to a controlled market with an ever decreasing amount was 1913, the year the Federal Reserve was created.
You cannot redefiine things in ways that are favorable to your argument. Free market capitalism should be a redundancy, but epistemological confusion necessitates that I use that formulation.
>>510166402The USA signed a treaty with yemen after bombing them into submission how is that a loss?
>>510166411Everybody wants to be an entrepreneur. "My fagot company makes crypto ATM's and I can't get anyone in the USA to build my thing"
>>510166240I cant wait to see mutt carriers sink
>>510166498>Houthis sink second Red Sea cargo ship in a week>"w-we won!"
>>510159330makes no sense , why you need to pay a rat to eat your face
>>510166402Why are you ziggers obsessed with worshipping the most backwards and pathetic third world nigger possible, if the Sentinelese starter supporting Russia you and all your half wit bloggers like simplicio would hail them as elite shock troops who would turn the tide
>strawman
reveal your flag, schlomo
>>510166287zeleboba claimed 26 cruise missles were fired. air defence claimed 25 shot down. 96% interception rate. urina is so back
in other news. europoor lost gdp race. our pepepe is not big enough. it's over.
Why are all the bloodthirsty ukrainian patriots moving to Europe?
>>510166086>Yes Yvan, just sail across. What's the worst that can happen?Lovely.
gdp
md5: d65d47729323f8db9f13759029a6b2c8
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>>510166594>worshipping the most backwards and pathetic third world nigger possiblewe don't worship ukraine
>>510166707for some weird reason most ukrainian nationalists are not in ukraine
weird...
>>510162235>>510162271You have to put your gayest globohomo blinders on to believe that swill
>>510165917>Unless you mine massive amounts of gold every year.The problem with this is something called the "Dutch disease".
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dutch_disease
It happened to Spain after they discovered hundreds of tons of gold and silver in the new world. The money supply increased relative to the amount of goods causing price inflation. Since there was so much gold and silver in Spain, and prices went up so much, it became cheaper to buy things from other countries than to make them in Spain. Do you see where this is going? Spain deindustrialized, and when the gold/silver ran out, Spain had to begin the difficult process of rebuild her productive economy.
The same thing is happening to the USA right now.
In the case of the Dutch, it wasn't gold, it was natural gas (commodity) which can be considered another form of money.
>2. Without fiat currency, the supply is always tight because there is no money for profits without constantly creating more money at an ever accelerating rate.Two sources of profit under a fixed monetary system. Firstly, assuming a fixed money supply, the VALUE of money goes up as production increases, or in other words PRICES go down as production becomes more efficient.
Secondly the money moves around, going from people who like to spend, to people who like to save. From less productive enterprises, to more productive enterprises.
>>510165917>Capitalism is fiat currency or even fictional fiat currency as legal tender.>Hard money prevents capitalism. Capitalism is the simple idea that faggots and retards like you can have and own their own capital. That's all there is to it. And it existed long before FIAT currency. And feudalism existed with hard money.
The things you think are capitalism due to you being fucking idiot who never read a book in his life, are not base of capitalism. Even communism is capitalistic as it is forced redistribution of capital - which means as a basis there is a private capital to be redistributed. Also communism with its idea that workers should own the means of production - is again capitalistic as ownership of tools is ovnership of capital - which is the basis of capitalism.
Capitalism rose as an opposition to feudalism where serfs, workers, farmers, terminators in guild could not own their own capital or owning of the capital was really hard to get due to laws (i.e. terminator had to terminate ~7 years[in England, info based on Adam Smiths Wealth of Nations] for free in the guild before he could earn his own capital, and if he tried to do that without terminating he would be arrested for breaking the law).
Then came this evil capitalism and said - what if people of all sorts could gather capital and spend it like they like instead of be forced to be slaves for guilds, magnates and nobles?
And this is the idea faggots like you constantly want to fight against when promoting going back to feudalism where feudal lords have all the money and capital and you live on rented land, borrowed tools and nobility's whim. But instead of nobility you will get socialis party central comitee.
Just KYS commie.
https://x.com/JulianRoepcke/status/1943920831387574744
>Another night of unrestrained Russian terror in UA.
>And once again: It doesnโt matter how many defense missiles and interceptor drones UA finances โ if we donโt enable them to attack the sources of the assaults, they can only lose this war.
illegal and unprovoked terror
>>510166498Because they lost
>>510166240Of course they'll scrap it.
A) In the age of hypersonic missiles and sophisticated, long range anti-ship cruise and ballistic missiles, aircraft carriers are approaching obsolescence. They are no longer a tip of the spear weapon. At best they will go in last, with the amphibious ships.
B) Russia is not in the business of power projection. Their navy is configured and has traditionally been configured for defense against an aggressor nation. The U.S. navy is configured for being the aggressor nation.
C) Why would they keep this relic around when they are now embarking on a program of naval modernization?
>>510166594I would nuke all 1.000.000.000 israelis if they ever even as much as touch one sentinelese
>>510166903What's a terminator?
>>510165477There was a time when the country dreamed of reaching developed status by 2020 but Asian Financial crashed the entire neighborhood and our neighbours reduced to sex tourism and IMF debt slave. Even with industrial output the neighbourhood is already on fire to support business for decades.
Unlike most the country did not fall into IMF debt slave and majority of federal budget comes from state enterprise insulating the state from zog to some extent and the previous prime minister built up enough to tank a decade of economic disaster but that is as far as we can go.
The ummah is tired, let the tiger sleep.
>>510166926they just need to survive a little longer
two more weeks and russia will run out of drones
>>510166903Also feudalism is actually good and significantly more based a social order than the hellscape we currently exist within.
>>510166447Lindsey Graham hates whoever he needs to to justify laundering billions of U.S. taxpayer money through the MIC so he can get is kickbacks.
>>510166786>kick meat catcher in the balls>tfw meat catchers don't have balls
>>510161931>there isn't a single video of a Javelin destroying a Russian tank in the SMO.Actually I think I saw one such video back in 2023. It set the inside of the tank on fire which pretty much counts as destroyed, by doing this "fly over the top" thing.
>>510167118bro
we don't say neiggerz, you know
>>510164297I hope we get some good literature on the statistics of this war after it's over. How much these strikes hurt the hohol industry for example.
https://files.catbox.moe/3yzakt.mp4
>>510166903Capitalism is tied to industry and industrial jobs = the means of production.
The service sector is a meem and so are financial services, insurance and so on and on, a larp.
But industry is real and requires significant capital (in the form of factories and ressource extraction mostly),
and the core tenet of Marxism is simply that these industrialised mass-employers should be nationalised.
He looks like he's been through the wringer.
>>510167049Terminator is a person who is undergoing termination at a guild. Which means finishing his preparation to be a master of the craft. And this preparation in 18th century took 7 years.
Using this nomenclature you could call terminators just students nowadays.
>>510167084no, feudalism is not good and not based you moron. And the hellscape you think you live in is precisely because we are going back closer and closer to what feudalism was, but with corporations being new magnates and party members being new nobles.
>>510166498And yet Yemen continues to be capable of striking ships and Israel. Fact is, that the politicians in D.C. have so debased the U.S. military that we cannot even win against Yemen. Look:
>Iraq: Not a win. Iraq is now a buddy of Iran>Afghanistan: Failure vs. tribes with far less sophisticated equipment.>Ukraine: Utterly failed in proxy war against Russia. Even Russia can outproduce the U.S. in military equipment (oh, and China has about 30X the industrial capacity of Russia, so how is that going to go?).>Yemen: Failed to meet objectives. Used ceasefire to buy time (just like Minsk II accord in Ukraine)>Iran: Failed to topple government. Failed to eliminate Iranian nuclear program. Had to set up ceasefire because U.S. and Israel would have gone mags empty vs. Iranian missile inventory.>Syria: Only "win". But, our proxies are an ISIS offshoot that is now genociding Christians in Syria. An Trump shook the hand of their leader. Abysmal. The U.S. is done. Unless Trump goes on the strategic defense and rebuilds U.S. industry we are going into major decline. Of course, he won't, because he's a total fucking moron and in the pockets of Israel. The torch of civilization is going to pass to Russia and China. That's probably a good thing; just look around at the degeneracy in the states.
>>510158684>Active ClubDoes anyone have any information on this? A network of this type has (((magically))) appeared in France in recent years and has instantly become influential in nationalist circles, without anyone asking too many questions - as if all communication about it was suppressed. My glownigger radar is extremely active when these "clubs" are mentioned.
>>510165917>lol, no. It's never worked. Always goes fiat currency.Hard currency doesn't fail. Politicians swich to fiat because it makes funding wars and then social programs (buying votes) possible.
Hard money enforces iron discipline. Budget deficits must be paid with taxes, because additional borrowing causes the interest rates to rise exponentially, and you can't do yield curve control by printing more money.
Hard money DOES have some disadvantages, especially gold based money which has liquidity issues. The reason why the Jew bankers paid US politicians to pass a law in 1873 DEMONITIZING silver, and making ONLY GOLD the definition of the US dollar was because gold was much more scarce, much less was available for mining in the USA compared with silver, (Nevada is called the silver state) and most of the gold in the world was controlled by the Rothschild owned Bank of England.
Today, with fractional gold going down to 1/10,000 of a gram, and blockchain technology, we could easily switch to a free market gold backed money that was completely independent of the government. It would be a voluntary money, used only with the voluntary consent of the market participants. Much like Bitcoin is used today.
Do you own or use Bitcoin? Have you heard of Goldbacks? They are another example of a voluntary money that is actually in use. 1 Goldback = 1/1000 of a troy oz of gold vacuum deposited between two layers of polyester. It is voluntary legal tender in several US States today.
The market price of a Goldback is based on the spot price of gold + seigniorage (premium). The premium stays with the Goldback and becomes a permanent part of it's value. As gold goes up in price, Goldbacks become more valuable. An excellent example of the deflationary aspects of hard money.
Hard money requires saving IN ADVANCE. Fiat currency creates future debts. Eventually those future debts grow to unsustainable amounts that they inevitably crash the system.
>>510167331>Capitalism is tied to industry and industrial jobs = the means of production.It isn't you do not have to have industry to have capitalism. You can have capitalism with services only (theoretically) and there are countries where services are like 80% of their GDP.
>The service sector is a meemSo an hairdresser cutting your hair is a mem job? Someone cleaning your home is meme job? Restaurant making you food is a meme job?They should do it for free?
>and the core tenet of Marxism is simply that these industrialised mass-employers should be nationalised.Which is going back to feudalism where king and nobles had the power over private endeavours. Marxism is the most retarded idea for any sane person that wants to live a good life out of his own work.
>>510162447China is glad to pick them up instead
>>510167429We are not going to feudalism, we are moving further and further away from it. The more the state gets centralised the less feudalism is possible. Feudalism was based upon bonds of loyalty and reciprocity between lords and vassals in a mutually beneficial economic relationship. Corporations have no responsibilities towards us, they don't even need us except as mouths to consume product.
Im back. Vacation time has started.
>>510167291remember the mutts' cope - drone operators, tank crews, jet pilots all have homes, families, and groceries to buy? this is Exactly how that is going to play out once shtf.
>>510167331Although this actually is an interesting debate.
How important are the means of production in capitalism? Extremely so, yet clearly there are jobs that require minimal capital. Are those jobs anti-capitalist? In a manner of speaking they might be.
Let's take OnlyFans. Do you think anybody pays taxes on that? Or furry art comissions? And capital requirements are what? $500? Capitalism (and Socialism too) falls apart there and it simply becomes a matter of the free market, which both try to curtail.
One may need to look into people's capital aspirationsss, too. Does everybody even try to hoard as much capital as they can? No, but many do, certainly, within their incredibly limited means (unless they inherited their wealth). These other people are anti-capitalist? Yes. There's even anti-capitalists who hoard capital.
Fundamentally it's unrelated to the entire value larp.
>my bits and pixels are worth billions of numbers on a piece of paper!
>>510167569The thing with money and its value is that it is completely virtual.
Even if it is hard money. Why let's say 1g of gold is worth what it is worth? It is only based on how much people want this 1g of gold and supply/demand. Which is still quite virtual as you can get some people to manipulate these prices if they have enough of their own gold. And if people would start to barter between themselves instead of using hard money then the value of hard money falls. Because it is I will write it again - completely virtual.
And this virtuality of money, even hard one, is why the debt based systems will not fall. It will be working only till the day people stop believing in it.
Judging by what has been bombed so far I think the Russians are going in this direction.
Gloves status? Red line crossing status?
>>510167471you forgot about libya
>fell into an eternal civil war and led to hundreds of thousands of niggers flooding europe
>>510165674'Tis is a duck season anyway, doc
>>510165917>Passive income, including from interest, is anti-civilisation.That's your opinion. I know farmers who rent productive farmland to grow crops on. With the profits they make off the rented land they save up enough to buy their own land, saving the rental fees they paid and in essence paying themselves what they formerly paid to the other landowner.
The landowner earned their money in another industry, and with their profits bought farmland when no one else wanted it as the population was smaller, there was less international trade in agriculture. The farmer who paid to rent the land did so voluntarily. The landowner who rented the land agreed to allow its use for a fixed rate and both parties benefited. No government needed to be involved.
Taxes are anti-civilization. Deficit spending are anti-civilization. This is my opinion, the opposite of yours.
>>510167781Yep, thanks for the back-up.
>>510163344By that logic if it takes a 5 cent bullet to kill a soldier who needed $100k worth of training then soldiers are obsolete.
Neck yourself you dumbfuckistan shitstain. But not before you study geometric distribution.
>>510167574Services do not create any value. At the very best, if you are lucky, they add value.
>services are like 80% of their GDPYeah, one has to wonder why they are fucked, huh?
>80% of our economy is numbers we made upMany such cases.
Feudalism didn't have any industrial mass production to speak of; that started with Mercantilism.
Your argument essentially boils down to:
>but capital existed before capitalism!And indeed it did, but the thing is: people didn't need huge sums of capital and consequently had no need to make it a system. That little workman owned his own hammers.
It happened with banking become prominent, also tied to Mercantilism (and wars lol).
Pokrovsk alone has to deal with a 40km perimeter. They never even built those net covered roads and can't start now. Its a matter of time before they are spent.
>>510167776That guy is literally some sort of nigger too as his name indicates kek, btw chug wonโt answer why thereโs an Association Of Russian Women Married To Igbo Men In Russia
https://files.catbox.moe/8b8ybg.mp4
>>510167811>'Tis is a duck season anyway, docFf the drone operators can't find a target and they stil have enough battery can return the drone for reuse?
Or is it to dangerous with an armed warhead to land the drone and disarm? Can the fiber drones be given a new magazine of fiber?
Or do the drone operators just detonate the drones on whatever is available if there are no targets and the battery is running low?
Does anyone in this thread know how drone ops run?
>>510162136This is why China is so much better. The J20 is cheap and unstoppable and the J35 is even better!
>>510167118Tigers niggers are too endangered to kill so they go into tiger jail after eating people, only crocodiles are executed for man eating.
>>510167471>Trump goes on the strategic defense and rebuilds U.S. industry we are going into major decline. Of course, he won't, because he's a total fucking moronhe cant. nobody can. as a dude used to say - you cant turn back mince meat. once you started exported your industry to chinks the only way for you to perpetually keep your prosperity was to guard the ip shit via threat of nukes as well as lead on some opium wars shit so the chinks could never reach their current tech levels.
instead your boomers and kikes feasted and a mere couple generations later you are fuckety fucking fucked with no recourse in sight.
>>510167971Chat, is this real or AI? I didn't see a central fan and it seemed too cute to be true. Why would China copy the most useless feature of the F-35?
>>510167971Thank you xin pao for the latest chink propaganda. Iโm definitely afraid of them now
>>510167471Syria was a "win" because Assad refused to fight or even ask Russia to help.
>>510168057It's 100% real, this was flown in a Chinese airshow in June. China is 100 years more advanced than western nations.
>>510167833>people didn't need huge sums of capitalKings and governments needed always a capital to wage wars for example and to pay their military. Romans paid their military not only in money but also in land all of which is capital. People always wanted and needed capital since the creation of money. And even before when barter was a thing people liked to own their own stuff and be able to exchange it for other stuff they wanted. Which is base of capitalism. But what was happening before capitalism is that most people did not own anything and could not own anything to even barter legally with.
>Services do not create any value.They actually can. It is more complex than what you try to show off.
An maintenance man can be just a serviceman but if he is servicing a factory which produces something he literally creates value for the factory which has its machines working.
>>510168015>Tigers niggers are too endangered to kill so they go into tiger jail after eating people, only crocodiles are executed for man eating.Kindof cool. I just hope tiger jail is comfy for the tigers. I wonder if the handlers ever befriend the tiger and establish an amicable relationship.
>>510168015interesting, media "taught" me that beasties who taste human flesh are never going back to normal and hence are taken care of immediately to avoid accidents.
makes sense considering that a predator ought to be capable of expanding its prey animal range.
>>510167473>A network of this type has (((magically)))it's a glownigger honey pot like the patriot front
except it seems they have far more influence and are all around europe apparently
>>510168169>>510168240>>510168094Seething Americans can't accept that they are done for and China is #1 and the future of the Earth. Look at how green China is, not brown like USA.
>>510168291go home then, why are you here?
noone likes you
>>510167957scratch a nazi find a juden
>>510168045>he cant. nobody can. as a dude used to say - you cant turn back mince meat.I disagree. You CAN rebuild industries. It is fucking hard though, because you lost all the institutional knowledge over that 30 year deindustrialization period. All the old guys who knew how to do things are retired or dead.
All the trade schools that made the guys who made things have been shuttered. This is something Trump has ignored. The US gov spends billions on Universities that teach useless bullsht, and virtually nothing on trade schools to teach guys how to weld.
Are there areas of heavy industry where America is still world class? Yes, look at oil production. Exploration, drilling, pipelines, refining. America is among the worlds best.
It can be rebuild, but the government needs to incentivize the major reallocation of capital from financial markets and bullshit tech stocks back to heavy industry. Environmental regulations designed to stop all industry need to be removed. Diversity mandates that require hiring blacks and women need to be removed.
Can Trump do it? We will see. Trump only has 3.5 years left and has done very little other than flap his mouth and TACO to date.
>>510168127It looked unbelievable.
>>510168225Tigers donโt normally hunt humans, but if they try it wonโt take long for them to realize that humans are pretty easy to hunt.
>>510168139Video doesn't look real to me. Show me some airshow video on YT taken by the public.
>>510168225That is true for crocodiles, man eating ones would eat only the arm and leg leaving the rest. Smarter ones are given names and capable of squad tactics with lesser crocodiles serving as decoys for helicopter tracking them.
The greatest killer in our history is bujang senang (happy bachelor) here. Killed estimated 30+ people federal govt mobilised everything including tribal shaman to find and kill him.
Innocent crocodiles are captured by fire dept and send back while SWAT (Swift Wildlife Action Team) execute the guilty.
>Russia can empty out one year worth of Patriot production in just a couple of days of sustained attacksI don't feel so good Senor Trump...
>>510168045>rebuilding it again is impossible>despite the fact that they built it in the first placeHow did Germany rebuild its heavy industry after a huge chunk of the population was killed/raped, best scientists stolen to USA/Russia, and country bombed to fuck? Aryan magic?
>>510167918>so uncommon, they need to make an association for it to find other coalburnersNot the epic win you thought it was, champ
>>510168575>Not having a loyal tiger beating wife.
>>510166449>trading eggs and chicken for milk and butterYou're describing a barter system, money is totally superfluous to it
BAAAAAKAAAAAAR WHERE ARE UUUUUUUUUUUU
>>510168577Here is proof
https://x.com/HolaFujian/status/1930499634776199660
>>510168633Comrade Trump will make sure Taiwan has no interceptor missiles left to be gifted.
>>510168514>You CAN rebuild industries. It is fucking hard though, because you lost all the institutional knowledge over that 30 year deindustrialization period. All the old guys who knew how to do things are retired or dead.Not only that, but the entire education system has been completely destroyed, to the point where less than 50% of adult mutts are sufficiently literate to clear 6th grade requirements, and 0% are numerate
>>510168162>>510167833>people didn't need huge sums of capitalYes, and no. Think about 1865 America. Huge country, huge disparities in wealth. Huge price differences for commodities depending on location. Cotton sold for cheap in the south, but was worth much more in the north where the textile mills were. How to move the cotton from the south to the north? Riverboat/barge. Sure okay, but the riverboat costs a lot of money if it's going to be big enough to haul a large shipment of cotton.
Going east to west, grain was expensive on the east coast, but cheap in the midwest. How to get the grain to the east? Wagons? Too slow and too small a cargo, that's why it was so expensive. Rail would work, but railroads require ENORMOUS amounts of capital. Much more than riverboats. A railroad is an extremely complex undertaking that costs a fortune to build, run and maintain.
But a railroad can more than pay for itself in the long run if it goes to and from the right locations, and is a key requirement for a large country that does not have convenient navigable river access.
Today one could argue that interstate highways (autobahns) are of equal or greater importance to a nations economy than the railroads. Highways require an enormous expendature of capital to build and maintain.
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>>510168926Nothing to worry, the modern machines are computer controlled, so all you need is some kind of nerd, ideally an autist.
What's challenging is heavy industry, which is why countries are generally highly reluctant to give that up. Shipbuilding for instance. It's too large-scale to leave to machines, and there's a ton of quirks people might forget about.
>>510168926You can't blame that on the education system I think. How well kids end up being able to read depends mostly on their families.
>>510168633>>510168514you dont seem to grasp the difference between building a necessity when there are no other options, then gradually upgrading it, and rebuilding something from the ground up while there are alternatives readily available and easier to make use of for literally everyone.
the amount of governmental control and interjection necessary for this is straight up fucking impossible to achieve and makes the tariffs hubbub look like a kindergarten fight. anything but a proper dictatorship is simply incapable of it, you will simply lose what industry you have left because in our globalist hellhole the megacorps will fuck off instead of dealing with that shit.
imagine a card house that partially fell, now imagine having to fucking rebuild the lower floors while keeping the upper floors stable - do you see how that is a tad more difficult than just building it?
>>510168926>americans cant do fractionsI thought the entire point of them keeping their backwards-ass imperial system is because the numbers are easily divisible in fractions
>>510168926>Not only that, but the entire education system has been completely destroyedThey need to bring back segregation and streaming. (separating students into different groups based on aptitude, ability and behavior)
My better half was born in E.Europe (balkans) and she had an aptitude for mathematics, so was sent from her small town to the University in the capital city to learn mathematics and computer programming. She was PAID to go to school, but her class ONLY had the top 1 percent of math students in the entire country. This is ILLEGAL in nigger loving America.
Why are there no blacks, mexicans, or guatemalens in the top math class? Must be because your racist and sheeeit!
America literally desegregated their schools at bayonet point. Education went downhill rapidly.
>>510169106>Nothing to worry, the modern machines are computer controlled, so all you need is some kind of nerd, ideally an autist.You need all kinds of engineers to design and build those modern machines that the nerds will operate.
>>510169040Infrastructure is an important and special case, yes, not least because it's commonly nationalised in some form, or subsidized, because these projects, be it bridges, roads, rail, have poor returns on investment, especially in more remote areas where often the minerals are, yet are critical for the overall economy.
So there isn't real capitalism to begin with. They sorta tried that during early Industrialization with their laissez-faire approach, and that failed by producting Marxism, or yielded highly mediocre results. Ultimately it was the military who demanded rail lines be built, and the military also is state owned. Even in Roman times: roads, bridges, aqueducts? Built by military engineers in some form or other.
>>510168162What you think of is the free market, the free or equal exchange of goods, which is a different matter, with its own (mostly) pros and cons.
Even if the king was a capitalist: I see this more as a negative than something worth defending, in effect an extreme form of monopoly.
>300+ posts,far beyond bump limit
>page 9+ on the verge into oblivion
>baker abandoned thread
>no new baker
chug is over, or do we bake one more bread today ?
>>510169474It's ovyr time to make a China general thread.
>>510169474>>510169514Gimme a moment. Captcha is waiting
>>510169148>You can't blame that on the education system I think.Yes you can. The modern "reading" techniques being taught in schools were developed by Jews for use on goyim. The elites (and many/most Jews) are taught using a completely different curriculum.
I actually taught myself how to read by reading comic books and painfully teaching myself how to sound out the words I hadn't been taught to "look see" in school.
Many of my contemporaries to this day cannot read and comprehend a page of complex text. Many people possibly in this thread cannot read my posts because they have too many words, and the way they learned how to read entails so much effort that they can't do it.
One or two lines they can parse without too much difficulty.
>>510169553Thank you fren.
Is this the end of /chug/?
>>510169466>So there isn't real capitalism to begin with.100%. But there are degrees of freedom. For example, During the last 30 years in China, up until the last 10 years or so, there was a remarkable degree of freedom to start new businesses and much of it was tolerated, if not encouraged, if not actively supported by the chinese government.
Contrast the last 40 years in the USA where in some jurisdictions, you could spend $250,000 and more than a year getting permits to open a sandwich shop.
One of the largest copper ore bodies in the world is in Arizona, over a billion tons of 1.5% ore, (3 times as rich as the average current copper mine) right next to a usable water source, with roads and powerlines nearby, a few miles from a town where a bunch of former copper miners live. The mine has been in the permitting pricess for TWENTY FIVE YEARS.
Alberta tried to run a second pipeline beside a pre-existing smaller pipeline. (1,150 km) Justin Trudeau passed new environmental review rules. Original price estimate $5.3 billion. After new evironmental rules, the company GAVE UP after spending 9 billion. The federal government bought out the project and $31 BILLION dollars later (and 10 years) it was complete. $27 milion dollars PER KILOMETER.