Thread 510170832

>Populist/far right/nationalist party comes close to power or in power
>High in energy but lacking in vision and discipline
>Fails to implement anything or succumbs to scandal and corruption
>rinse and repeat

Is anyone else just very frustrated with this? It reminds me of the state of far left movements in the early 20th century where they had a ton of momentum behind them but they all just petered out until Lenin came along (and even then it basically died when he died). What is to be done? How can we prevent this from happening?
Wilders' just basically imploded the government cause he cant rule

pls /pol/ this is important

>>510170832 (OP)
>What is to be done?
learn that you can't vote your way out of this

>>510172534
yeah i learned that, but what IS to be done?

>Wilders' just basically imploded the government cause he cant rule
And because no one in his party is really competent.

>>510173199
Which is part of the problem i illustrated

The trick is to not start a political party, but some sort of other organization that allows for networking, stimulating discourse, creating culture, etc. You build it up over years, then eventually you launch a political party once the time is right and just sweep the fuck out of everybody. The establishment gets blindsided and you'll massive amounts of power. From that point onward, you just use all the power to further consolidate yourself until you're in charge and you can fix the issues and get rid of the corrupt pieces of shit ruining everything

>>510173416
In our country, Forum for Democracy had that opportunity, but they launched as a political party too soon. If they had waited, building up their reputation and influencing public discourse in the meantime, they would've been bigger once entering parliament, which would've secured them more against the media attacks.

>>510170832 (OP)
Voting is a den where pigs roll, if you could vote away your problems we would all be living in the wonderland

>>510172858
i can't give specific instructions but there are lots of examples throughout history of people ousting governments through force and/or coercion.
>>510173416
this anon i think is on the right track but the issue here is that you would have to operate within the guidelines of "the system" meaning you are at an inherent disadvantage compared to the entrenched bureaucracy.
imo, it's likely that nothing really gets solved without organized and fierce violence

>>510173607
This is exactly why the old world order was destroyed, imagine having a king that cares about the wellbeing of his countrymen in this day, Jews and other shabbos goy tactics like migration, corporation land grab couldn't happen

>>510172858
First you need to organise on a local level (people that accuse me of being a fed are feds themselves), like wear black shirts to recognise fellow anons and proceed from there

>>510170832 (OP)
I think this phenomenon is a result of three factors. The first is that the kind of people who become politicians tend to be charlatans, and since anyone competent would end up joining the more reliable and steady establishment parties, the extreme parties pick up the incompetent ones. The second is that right-wing parties tend to blunt themselves by trying to unite too many people. The genuinely popular issues get weighed down by parts that most people are put off by. The third is that anyone who bypasses the two previous hurdles (or at least the first) tends to quite passionately believe in things like "freedom" and "being fair", making them rather poor politicians.

To give an example of the first two, I will use an example from my country. During COVID-19, a political party called 'NZ Loyal' was formed (among others) to oppose the vaccine, restrictions, and mandates. The party was completely incompetently run, to the point they failed to even submit the candidates they were running. That's the first factor. They also decided to broaden the scope of the party to support a significant number of conspiracy theories, and 'alternative medical treatments' like "quantum healing" and "light frequency therapies". As most people opposed to the government's COVID-19 policies didn't necessarily believe in other conspiracy theories, this was not popular, and meant they argued for far too much, and made their positions incomprehensible - the second factor. They got few votes and the party was deregistered soon after.

>>510173642
>imo, it's likely that nothing really gets solved without organized and fierce violence
Maybe, but many violent political organizations start out as more peaceful political organizations. The combination is part of what makes them so difficult for regimes to uproot.

>>510173717
Eh, kings never really cared that much about their subjects. Big difference is that kings were expected to actually go to war and fight themselves. Can you imagine the president of the US leading the invasion of Iraq?

As far as I understand, the guy behind this channel is a hyperborean runic yoga schizo. Despite that, I think this two videos are a very good analisis on why the "far right" always fails to fullfil it's suposed objectives. I know people are generally feed up with the constant retarded babbling of youtube ecelebs, but Ithink this two videos are worth watching.
https://youtu.be/jM3d2VXHR9k?si=ZFBnZvfDQxyMbqQO
https://youtu.be/ZvagIhH27nQ?si=DW4PIv2W5l9ESsac

>>510170832 (OP)
is he okay?