Thread 510175273

ITT Redditors apologise to Donald

The US government reported a $27 billion budget surplus in June, marking the first such surplus since 2005

>>510175273 (OP)
At the expense of the average American consumer who is now paying way more for groceries than ever before.

>tax citizens more
>report more money
yeah that's exactly how it works, he should tax every american 90%, the government will have the biggest budget surplus ever

>>510175273 (OP)
Trump is a kike owned pedophile. He deserves to be hanged.

>>510175399
Tariffs are not a tax on citizens

>>510175372
Fact Check:

Debunked. Would you like to try again, sweety?

>>510175684
When are us fly over states going to get affordable groceries?

>>510175502
>in my retarded head
Apologize to Donald

>>510175273 (OP)
lol this will be revised away later like bidens employment figures its admin level bullshit with faggot government accounting. but sure thing your running a “surplus” when the federal government has over 100 trillion dollars in totally unfunded boomer benefits no other generation will receive but pay for while spending more than 1 trillion a year to finance the debt, lol lmao even.

>zogmericans find out tariffs are just consumer taxes
Taxes are good when zion don does it

>>510175684
>Tariffs are not a tax on citizens
But citizens are the ones paying them.

>>510175273 (OP)
They will protest even harder just to spite you, OP.

>The Treasury Department noted that the month benefited from calendar adjustments, without which the deficit would have been $70 billion.
Kek, always with the smoke and mirrors, huh.

>>510175835
I thought Americans were all pulling in $100k salaries, just how many eggs do you need to buy that would mean less than $6 is too expensive? Also with the obesity rate in the US I don't exactly think expensive groceries are actually a thing

>>510175346
>increased debt by 5 trillion
I don’t get why we are supposed to praise this

>>510175684
If tariffs are not a tax, why are americans citzens paying them? Why did Trump chimp out when amazon added the tariffs price bump on the final price of products? Why would he ramp up the price of everything coming in the USA just so he could massively increase the national debt, and, give his cronies tax cuts?

>>510175372
I work full time at a grocery store. The prices are not skyrocketing, just FYI.

>>510176179
They're just going up gradually.

>>510176220
Yes, because that's how inflation works, but it's not any worse now than it has been for years.

>>510176134
wrong the seller has to make them competitive against other imports and home produced goods. N one is buying something that is more expensive due to a tax put on top. Plus if people are buying cheap crap from the likes of China, then that is their doing, no one is forcing to do so

>>510175835
Stop posting bullshit.
https://eggprices.org/national-data

>>510176077
Sorry we are going to break your economy brazil, you should go back to crying on reddit

>>510175684
The egg price conspiracy just disappeared. Sad.

The DOJ stated that they would begin looking into collusion among egg producers for price fixing, and prices came down immediately. No one ever talks about it, because people are fucking stupid.

>>510176379
>only thing zoggies buy from Brazil is orange juice and some iron ore
Oh no. Im deeply concerned. Its so over

>>510175273 (OP)
Charge people to pay you more money, they do and you get more money.
>>510175372
Get another job to meet the costs. That's the point of inflation to make the Goy work harder and make sure they never get too comfortable.

>>510176379
Why would a 2nd grade trade partner charging their population more for our products "break" anything over here?

>>510176379
>US has a surplus of Trade with Brazil
>Brazilian exports to the US are 11% of the total exports
Kek, you ain't breaking nothing but your buck selves, keep cheering on while Orange Gorbachev destroys your empire.

>>510175273 (OP)
Where's the Orange Man Apology Form?

>>510176330
Okay and when the seller can’t just “make them competitive” immediately because their product line sourcing/infrastructure took years to develop and they also have to maintain profitable margins then what?

We get hit with higher consumer facing costs without a quick fixe ie we either pay the higher prices or don’t get the product.

>>510176577
They also buy Niobium, a rare earth metal, used in a lot of alloys with military applications. Brazil extracts 93% of the world's supply of Niobium, let's see the great american rearmament without it.

>>510175273 (OP)
Where is that 27 billion being spent ?

>>510176179
Wow very impressive career you fucking loser

>>510175273 (OP)
Who paid that surplus, retard?

>>510175684
>british-tier fagboi
>>510176442
based knower

>>510175684
>>510175273 (OP)
>>510175346
Can't tell if bait or low IQ

>>510176330
So you admit that the substitute goods are more expensive for the consumer?

>>510176706
Are there any products you buy regularly that aren’t currently produced in America?

>>510175273 (OP)
For the math whizes here:
How many months of 27 billion surpluses does one need to cover a 5 trillion expense?
Plz answer

>>510175273 (OP)
Chud and maga retards celebrating that a country has a budget surplus is the funniest shit ever and just shows how economically illiterate you all are. Tarrifs are paid by IMPORTERS, so no, chinks or European companies don't pay shit to US, it's the american importers that pay tariffs to the US gov and increase prices of goods in US for average joes to balance the additional tariffs costs. US gov is basically indirectly taxing every murican so then they can cut social benefit and spend more money on military or some other gov sinkhole. US gov, or any gov having additional billions to spare doesn't benefit you at all if it's spent on bullshit.

>>510177071
Supply chains confuse dumb people like this anon

>>510175273 (OP)
How does this remove poos?

>>510175372
>groceries
Worst choice since the US doesn't import much food, and thus isn't subject to tariffs. You should have used something like video cards as your example.

>>510177000
no because the seller automatically has a massive hike in their sell price and can't sell them into the market, it is like a wagie asking for twice as much as someone else who can do the job. But of course people demand buying the same cheap shit that is allowed to flood the market from Chinkland

>>510176820
I'm working on my PhD and can't do a normal 9-5, but keep making guesses without knowing the whole story. Don't forget you're here on /b/, and that already speaks volumes about you too.

>>510175273 (OP)
So, like do I get a check or something?
When's that money coming back to me?

>>510177358
How was an international seller already holding such large market share despite offering at a higher price than domestic ones could?

>>510175684
A dozen eggs is still $6 in the south

>>510177090
now do tax itself

>>510176150
There are published cases (you can look them up) where the tariffs are being absorbed by the exporters either directly or indirectly (e.g. by charging customers higher prices in other countries). So some cost of the tariffs will be borne by US consumers, some by the exporters themselves, and some by consumers in third party countries.

However, the most important decision will be what the US government decides to do with the tariff revenue. If they reinvest it into the US economy then it will become a virtuous input to the country. Even if you see it as a tax it's what they do with that tax that matters. So why not analyse what they do with the money? That is the most important factor.

>>510177278
isnt a video card an elite luxury item?

>>510175273 (OP)
Trump is failing to stay on target. He's still spending money on being the world's policeman. He should be putting that police budget into paying off the debt and building up the industry that makes the weapons. Handing a lot of weapons and munitions to the Ukraine is a great way to purge the warehouses of obsolete ordnance, but that's likely all gone by now.

If there's an opportunity here, it's to research low cost, high quantity weapons for the Ukraine. It's no longer a proving ground for the fancy stealth and drone tech. Don't hand out the latest stuff to people who would use it to kill a cow for the lulz.

>>510176077
>>510176134

>tariffs are just consumer taxes
You need to stop repeating this retardation because it is a lie.
Prices didn't go up.
Large corporaitons and the billionaires like Rockefellers , Buffet, Bezos , etc. are all screaming in the media yet their large monopolies are now paying billions in tariff taxes to US gov .

>>510176142
Amazing
What does "calendar adjustments" mean though

>>510175273 (OP)
except it isn't actually a budget surplus and they're lying again. the budget is increasing our debt but tariffs reduced the amount our debt increased by 27 billion, which wasn't in the budget, so they are calling that exact number a "budget surplus" despite there being no budget surplus and our debt is still increasing. i fucking hate it here.

government figures
https://fiscaldata.treasury.gov/datasets/debt-to-the-penny/debt-to-the-penny
>6/2/2025 public debt $36,214,400,664,854.53
>7/10/2025 public debt $36,595,101,611,079.13
so the debt increased by $380,000,000,000.00ish dollars from june until 2 days ago, that isn't a budget surplus.

>>510177630
What are the case studies? Tariffs in the US seem on average to be transferred to the consumer at around 120%

>>510177419
How? The chinks don't have safety rules, they are basically all run for the CCP and companies in the West to aid their shareholders and other investors will set up wit the full blessing of the now quasi commie chinks to corner the market by offering goods at well below the market price. Those shithouse western companies get their profits due to lower wages and no rules to follow, the chinks get to dominate all industries and morons in the west buy the cheap shit chink produced crap and then morons cry because their dildo 5000 is now double the price due to import tariffs, but of course the chinks will eat the cost anyway because they need that market share and to drive out all competitors

>>510177738
Buffet has been sitting in cash for ages

>>510177819
You keep getting confused by the questions and admitting that this will result in higher prices for consumers

>>510177747
Jewish math, most likely
https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/11/treasury-posts-unexpected-surplus-in-june-as-tariff-receipts-surge.html

>mass fire American workers
>force Americans to pay more for food and necessities
>increase taxes for poor and middle class to give to the wealthy
>cut social safety nets for Americans
>HURRRRR DURRRRRR SURPLUS MY JEW MASTER DID GOOD POL HURRRRRRR DURRRRRRRRR

>>510177900
>will result
so just 2 more weeks? No, the chinks will absorb the cost. By the way what happened to TACO, shilled a few weeks ago and now it's frittered away into dust?

>>510177788
>Trump’s own “big beautiful” spending bill that made its way through Congress earlier this month is expected to add about $3.4 trillion to the national debt over the next decade, according to the nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office’s projections.
40 trillions in debt in just a bit.

>>510177738
>prices didnt go up
Not yet but the USD lost value when compared to other currencies and the government needs to be very careful about how they will use all that tax revenue (they wont). Shit is about to go down

>>510175372
you should eat more eggs

>>510176142
>literally just cooking the books to look good

Wowwww MORE MONEY FOR ISRAEL AND BILLIONAIRES

MAGA!

>>510177515
Sure it is memeflag who’s totally not a Jew or Indian. I just paid 5.88 for 18 eggs at Sam’s club

>>510175684
eggs are usually produced domestically

>>510175835
The joke here is he picked the single most expensive egg brand on the market. I just ordered a shipment of liquid eggs for my restaurant, shit was $1.82/lb.

>>510177788
>Ayo we just in a million in debt rather than 1.001 million we doing good bois!
Hilarious

>>510178205
just wait until the next bank bailout happens, $50 trillion in debt by the end of Trump 2, all going to jews and billed to the goyim, screencap this

>>510175346
The US runs a $150 billion deficiet every month.
You think Trump brought in $175 billion in tariffs in June?

>>510178575
how long before quadrillions are banded about as a sensible financial metric?

>>510178475
wrong, the debt has increased $380 billion since june second per the treasury's website, this whole headline is bullshit and all you have to do is go look at the numbers on the treasury website to see they are lying

>>510177788
Increasing debt isn't anything to do with raking in more income than outlay for a particular month. That is total debt, gov spending is deficit and that is what you compare to what the gov brings in. Of course you can for a particular month rake in a lot more income than another month but overall you will for the year not bring in enough to cover what you spend, think of it like a credit card payment. You might well for a month have a surplus on it, the other months you will have outlays and your income won't cover it meaning your debt will increase. Of course the US will never pay of what it has borrowed, then again that is the whole point of the whole system, the lenders don't' want any surplus, the gov want to be able to borrow and of course the US can simply print money which of course devalues the dollar - all other countries do the same anyway because it is a locked system now.

>>510177804
https://www.cbtnews.com/japanese-automakers-slash-export-prices-to-offset-25-tariffs/

>>510177996
Thanks

>>510175684
>Tariffs are not a tax on citizens
Those companies, out of the goodness of their hearts, don't pass the cost along to us. Is that really what you think?

>>510178678
>everyone is doing it and that makes it okay!
this is your brain on modern monetary theory

>>510175273 (OP)
Yes, US citizens paid more taxes in tariffs, why is this news?

>>510178392
Yes it is also I dont buy goy eggs from goy's club

>>510178659
gov spending isn't debt, gov spending is the deficit which is money received via taxes etc minus spending. Now of course the debt will be what is spent overall because that spending is more than the gov receives, whether 1 month the gov spending is lower than the gov receipts isn't really a big headline anyway, but the gov is going to crow about it anyway because "good news" is how they operate.

>>510177788
>that isn't a budget surplus.
If you collect more than you spend in whatever fiscal period that is exactly what a budget surplus is.
You could leave your goon-cave at mom's house and go to your town or city's budget meetings and learn how municipal budgets work.

>>510175886
Suck start a shotgun kike pedophile. Traitors get shot twice.

>>510175273 (OP)
>pay effectively more in taxes
>government has more money
great
can we now have 27 billion more in aid

>>510178700
https://libertystreeteconomics.newyorkfed.org/2025/06/are-businesses-absorbing-the-tariffs-or-passing-them-on-to-their-customers/

>>510178784
Well it is also reality, not theoretical utopian fantasy of how things should be. I am sure the US could easily cut back on spending and always have a surplus and never borrow again. However the system they operate in and also to keep the whole system afloat the US will borrow even if it doesn't need to, just like the US could open more oil fields and never bother about the ME or Israel ever again, but alas that is how they keep the whole petrodollar thing going.

Lower egg prices are Russian disinfo and antisemitic. The only surplus I believe is upvotes versus downvotes when news is vetted by reputable sources committed to combating fascism.

>>510175372
Agree. Taxes are taxes.

>>510178755
The actual reality is a mix. Yes, it is nuanced. Some costs are fully passed on. Some are partly passed on. And some are fully absorbed. Are you able to process nuance?

>>510175273 (OP)
>cut funding to weather and infrastructure
>airplanes crashing
>people literally drowning from floods
>put high tariffs (import taxes) on imported goods
>everything is expensive
>everything sucks
>kick the can down the road
>BUT AT LEAST WE'RE SAVING SO MUCH MONEY

>>510176065
Agree. Both presidents had lied.

>>510178755
Given the tariff levels in most cases it is literally impossible to not do it

>>510175372
Even ramen is more expensive. Thank you mein Führer!

>>510178438
damn, get a load of chef mike over here

>>510175273 (OP)
Fuck that orange orangutan rapist pedo.
Only in America.

>>510178901
you're just talking in circles trying to jewsplain how being bankrupt is a good thing.
>>510178904
so you're saying the treasury's website is lying about the debt increasing?
>>510179089
>Well it is also reality
picture related, you're fucking retarded

>>510179500
sorry for that retarded bong.
Fucking keynsians

>>510179131
>Lower egg prices
Do city fags actually pay for eggs?

>>510175273 (OP)
>We have more money because we tax more the Americans
>We also have more regulations that makes everything more expensive
Miganiggers cultist are insufferable.
Fuck the mods
Fuck the jannies

>>510179320
>That picture
Kek, saved

>>510179500
Here is more reality. Countries don't go bankrupt, they can get into massive problems with owing money, go on really expensive lending rates however the system dictates that the lenders need countries to borrow so they are always bailed out, they have to go into safety mode of reduced spending and higher taxes to get back to a level where they are put higher in the level of borrowing that is more normal.

>>510175684
>Tariffs are not a tax on citizens
>Tariffs: literally payed by the ones importing stuff from other countries (citizens/business/factories)
Dumb fuck

>>510178755
It's not just companies.
Let's say you want to buy something from Europe or china.
Cut the middle man, buy directly from the distributor
Well you have to pay the tariffs for each service or product you buy.
Now in a large scale. Components, chems, raw materials, machines, items, etc... Every time you increase the Tariffs you are making all those more expensive

>>510176442
they went from $1.80 to $6 and down to $4 where they will remain or increase until US economic collapse

>>510178879
>nooooo don’t buy the same thing for cheaper
Weird to brag about paying more for no reason but ok

>>510179782
>Countries don't go bankrupt
lol, you're right they just go through such insane economic turmoil that there are revolutions and then they start killing people like you :^)

>>510179967
As the price will also include the tariff then the seller will be selling it at that price and will automatically be less competitive than other countries on lower tariff rates or non at all (such as the US itself). So what does the seller in China do if their piece of shit is now twice the price? someone in the Us buying a product sees the made in China logo, sees a Made in the US logo and there is not a massive difference in price. Is buying the US made product now bad because they paid more - hence they would have paid less with no tariffs for the piece of shit chink product which would break after a while anyway? Oh supply chains? That some chink produce shit is in a US manufactured car and now you will have to pay a few hundred more or that they got a supply from the US or maybe elsewhere and it's a bit more expensive? Why exactly are people so gleeful that the market is flooded with chink crap and now are literally crying because they may have to pay more if the chinks decide they won't eat any of the costs and still expect morons to buy their chink crap?

>>510178130
Literally none of those are true. Government employees and niggers aren’t people

>>510180407
Well if the likes of Germany want a third go at being morons they can try, i suppose the EU is their 3rd war anyway and has its own set of problems, but i suppose if they get their way and expand outwards then no one can complain - all under the same currency, no real country in its membership and niggers to distract everyone anyway. But it's all on the same system anyway, all borrowing and the lenders all wanting them to keep borrowing - just like the housing market.

>>510178161
you're retarded, sorry bud

>>510180485
Well this is another nuance. The tariffs are not borne equally across the US population. For example, how much tariffs will the Amish be paying?
I think the reeeeeing about tariffs is mainly coming from the liberals because they are the ones buying more imported goods from places like China. They realise that they are actually the ones bearing most of the tariff burden. And it is killing them to pay this tax to the orange man.

>>510180815
>talking about US being bankrupt
>changes topic to germany

>>510175684
My grocery shopping is cheaper than it has been in years. Do the people who parrot the "le grocery costs" meme even go grocery shopping?

>rich jewish bankers got $27 billion richer because i have to pay more for everything now

gee thanks

>>510180943
Literally what are you buying that has gotten more expensive? Name one thing.

>>510175273 (OP)
Guess where those extra funds will be going LMAO

>>510176065
i assumed this is just best case scenario 'on paper' budgeting. its looking at the cost of cutting healthcare but not the sudden swarm of ER visits or the general decline of health with no doctor visits like during lockdowns

>>510180931
>encloses photo for effect
>cries when I mention it
.

>>510177738
this guy is smart. you know that these companies won't change prices to improve their margins. That has literally never happened.

>>510181028
Everything is on the paper until massive screwups happens from DEI,immigrants, deporting, and on.

>>510176442
The Biden admin was complicit in the price fixing, by pushing bird flu scamdemic.

>>510175273 (OP)
plebbitors do love child porn so yes, they must apologize to ziondon.

>>510181196
It was real. But price fixing yes.

>>510177788
whats the US revenue? i thought we were close to not being able to even afford interest, so how could we possibly be spending otherwise and have a surplus? unpossible, jews

>>510180862
People are zoned in on buying cheap crap literal consooooom. And it is hilarious of how pol is so anti-consumer in many ways (whilst boasting about all the shit they buy) but also when their thirst for chink crap means things MIGHT increase slightly in price it is almost un-American that they should have the least expensive goods in the world whilst at the same time having the highest wages in the world. I have to wonder what all these goods that they are crying about are, what the fuck are they buying from China or even what in the supply chain they are. Of course they will then say it isn't just stuff they buy it is what US manufacturers buy (the supply chain) and everything else. But they are very happy to see China corner the market in multiple industries, they laugh that the Chinks are producing EV's for dirt cheap money (well they make them at a loss) and how it would be so good if they could have them which would mean all US car manufacturers going to the wall - another market corned for the chinks

>>510175273 (OP)
>With government red ink swelling throughout the year, last month saw a surplus of just over $27 billion, following a $316 billion deficit in May.

>Customs duties totaled about $27 billion for the month, up from $23 billion in May and 301% higher than June 2024.

So the tariff collection was $20B more than last year... that doesn't explain much of the $343B difference from May

>>510175273 (OP)
>mathematical fuckery
>BUDGET SURPLUS

>liberals are mad at good news
Keep seething LOL

>>510180997
They want things to be more expensive so they can complain about drumpf. It's mental illness.

>>510181441
You'd think that if you loved your country you would be happy to spend your wealth in your country. But I think most of the fear mongering about the tariffs is coming from people who just hate America.

>>510181441
you are the type of retard to make 50 posts on this topic without realizing that 1) china isn't the only exporter subject to our new tariffs and 2) consumer goods aren't the only thing subject to our new tariffs. you need to stop posting

>>510181661
>conservatives now celebrate high taxes
what a time to be alive

>>510182077
Tariffs are a tax on big business, you should be applauding that as an insane liberal freak

>>510182125
Specifically a tax on businesses that outsource production.

>>510175372
Eggs were more expensive under Biden

The bbb is about to fuck everything up. We're talking multi-trillion dollar deficits just to give mega-corporations lower tax rates

>>510182186
I always forget the left in the US is for outsourcing and illegal labor.

>>510182272
The bill is like $300 billion per year in debt, Biden had $2 trillion in debt just last year and yo were fine with that.

>>510176134
>>510176150
Then why do other countries have tariffs against America?

China had a 135% tariff against America. You're saying Chinese citizens are paying a 135% tax?

>>510182125
lol see >>510181055
you had to headcannon a lame insult instead of making an argument because this topic is confusing to you.

>>510182077
Republicans lower taxes.
Democrats raise taxes.

>>510182445
>we increased revenue by reducing taxes
good point. smart poster

>>510175273 (OP)
Maybe they should keep this top secret because now Israel wants 250 billion dollars. These guys need to learn about opsec.

>>510182425
I'm not even sure what you're mad about

>>510182534
More like cut waste

>>510182385
no, retard. but they are incurring higher costs to whatever extent they are losing access to low-priced goods sourced abroad. More likely, this wasn't a blanket tariff and kept some consumers or businesses from purchasing a higher-quality good by making it exorbitantly expensive. Maybe agricultural exports too?

>>510176149
Any made up win is extremely required when there is a sea of Ls

>>510182668
>China putting tariffs on America is good for China
>America putting tariffs on China is bad for America
I guess I'll never understand backward leftist logic. But then you people think you can just magically change your gender at any given moment.

>>510182648
not as much as you're implying, no. you can look this up before making retarded. Outlays dropped $32B vs. June 2024 while receipts increased $79B

>>510182798
>read something
>get confused for it
>do the dance to try and get an internet W

>>510182846
Apparently it is according to the OP.

>>510175273 (OP)
Yeah he raised your taxes you fucking idiot.

>>510175273 (OP)
Cool, so I can skip paying quarterly taxes then? No, my money is still getting stolen and sent to nigs and kikes? Great!

>>510182910
My taxes were lowered though

>>510182648
>RT
lol ok ivan.

>>510182909
Imagine if trump had Ben more moderate with tariffs instead of such a steep climb on the graph.

>>510182879
>>510182910
>objectively good thing happens
>liberals seething about it
This is why no one likes you

>>510182975
You pay the tariff cost.

>>510182909
confused yourself. I am the one arguing that this is driven by revenue. You just demonstrated my point

>>510182051
Except I already mentioned supply chains and other factors that things MAY go up in price due to being affected by the chinks. As for other areas of the world the tariffs are lower and are suspended. Trump is doing it to get better trading deals and probably the NATO countries agreeing to increase their defence spending was also attached to tariffs as everything can be resolved with the give and take of negotiating. the question is are you happy for the likes of China to go unimpeded and corner every market when you will ultimately either say "how did this happen" or "well, they were just to strong, too clever, we should have done something". The US itself used WW1 and WW2 to build its powerhouse building on what it already had before that. The chinks were allowed into the WTO only 25 years ago and you see the chink shills gleefully showing how far they progressed in such a short period of time

>>510178640
This is some delish seethe.

>>510182986
Sorry Chuck Todd for not shilling your state approved media.

>>510183017
>your taxes going up
>good
Ok Commie.

>>510183017
for sure. The GOP has spent the past several decades trying to increase taxes because it's always been a good thing

>>510183029
Prices are down though
>>510183033
I don't think you understand what's going on

>>510183040
>i already mentioned this thing but my entire analysis hinges on you accepting that I can minimize it
not how it works sweaty. you're a simpleton and you've outed yourself numerous times ITT

>>510183103
Prices are not down.

>>510183082
Taxes are down though

>>510182385
Most of them just have regular taxes yet you niggers think that somehow you are being scammed
For example, my country has a 7% flat tax on all sales, including imports. Yet you retards think we are charging you 7% of the transaction when that is just an import tax the consumer pays.
Other countries with higher import tax for selective products are just to protect their own production and only in selective products that need the protection. It's better on paper to have a tax to reduce the trade than stopping the trade all together, looks less antagonizing.
You don't produce shit worth anything anymore so you don't have shit to protect except perhaps your oil and goyslop (((gmo))) grains.

>>510175273 (OP)
Great! More money for Israel!

>>510183103
>I don't think you understand what's going on
yes, again, because you're confused by what you're reading and apparently by some of what you're posting. Revenues contributed much more to the flip from deficit to surplus than "cut waste" did

>>510183188
See >>510175684

>>510183198
No they're not. US consumers pay the tarrif.

>>510183071
>>510183082
>I'm mad at good things
Do you have anything to run on other than transgender surgeries for kids and mass illegal immigration? Abortion is guess?

>>510183198
some will be (disproportionately not yours). Government receipts are up.

>>510183226
>eggs
Ok retard.

>>510183199
So you're taxing yourself through your flat tariffs?
>>510183246
Rices are down though

My President

>>510183226
this guy's consumption bundle is 89% eggs apparently. incredible stuff

>>510183265
Yes you are a silly person.

>>510183265
When you are underwater on deporting millions of illegals, abortion, and your support for Israel.

>>510175372
>bubby can't afford his tendies and tatties
Sucks to be a poorfag. I wouldn't know.

>>510183265
this newfag is fitting in really hard today

>>510183333
But ice is deporting illegals

>>510176149
The debt projection was increased by 5 trillion though 2034 off the assumption of significantly lower tax revenue not being offset by cuts elsewhere. A single month of surplus isn't going to change much but every month where we don't need to take on new debt and can instead just not take on new debt when old debt comes to term is a month closer to getting rid of the 950 billion in debt servicing we have to do. Some to remember is that debt servicing is about 2/3rds of the deficit. It won't go down to 0 of course but more months of not having to get new debt will do FAR more for lowering interest rates than powell.

>>510175273 (OP)
Since everything is inflated these numbers are misleading.
For example, some would say that consumer spending has increased x%. However total units sold has stagnated or dropped. Therefore consumer spending has only increased due to inflation.
As far as the tariffs go it’s probably a similar reading.

>>510183313
>>510183333
>>510183365
I'll take that as a no. You didnt learn ANYTHING from 2024 did you? Trump won the fucking popular vote too because you freaks stand for nothing but degeneracy and replacement migration.
We're going to have the 250th anniversary of the country and you'll be mad about it LOL.

>>510175372
your mommy just tells you that because she's spending more of her money on cigarettes and box wine, if you bought your own groceries you'd know it's pretty cheap

>>510183457
net flows flipped from negative to positive YoY and government receipts increased 13%

>>510183461
Nah. Our politicians were pushing the wrong things instead. They were self sabotaging democrat party.

>>510178640
voters need to pretend to believe that that they're doing is righteous, otherwise they have to accept that they're limp dicked pussies just trying to join ANY herd for safety. you can't reason with someone who is attempting to lie to themselves to avoid personal accountability, they're illogical, afraid and worthless

>>510183461
>i need to change the subject because I"m floudering.
"reee"

>>510183596
Hahahahahahahahaha that IS your party you fucking idiot.

>>510183583
Big if true

>>510183620
Yup. I already admits democrat politicians didn’t listen to their voters.

>>510183652
While your Republican Party is falling apart.

>>510182385
>why do other countries have tariffs against America?
because they need to protect key local production or risk economical and civil disorder if there is a collapse of that sector.
Like the USA could easily dump and under cut the entire rice market for some of the smaller eastern counties. Yet all their local farmers would be out of work and the country would be at risk of not having food production. So you tariff...
This is a totally different issue than Trump's moronic universal tariffs. All that is doing is taxing Americans and driving costs up...

>>510183596
The only thing democrats stand for anymore is (((diversity))), unlimited illegal aliens, open borders, trannies, and illegals.

Republicans are the party of the middle class.

>>510183620
>>510183669
>>510183709
You just dont get it, you still dont. No one takes you people seriously. No one gives a shit what current thing you're seething about because all you care about is degeneracy, mass illegal replacement migration, and destroy the country. You fucking ran an election in it.
No one cares anymore, you're dismissed immediately as the insane freaks you are.

>>510183765
You don’t stand for working class lol.

>>510175372
>>510175399

>>510183711
>China putting tariffs on America is good for China
>America putting tariffs on China is bad for America
I guess I'll never understand backward leftist logic. But then you people think you can just magically change your gender at any given moment.

>>510183711
to be fair, it should cause some onshoring if they stay in place long term. But most people don't realize that this is just going to be a shadow tax that has disproportionate household impact on the lower end of the income spectrum, while the tax cuts will have a disrpoportionate on high income households. tards like ITT will applaud and comically claim that taxes went down despite receipts rising

>>510183814
Apparently we do.

>>510183814
>I want to help the working class by flooding the job market with millions of illegal immigrants that get paid well under the minimum wage

>>510183767
I’m loving watching your fragile ego showing.

>>510183767
you just started calling me a democrat because I am advocating against high taxes and high government expenditure. I don't care what you take seriously or what you think other people take seriously because you're a clown sweet bbboi

>>510183865
You want children to get transgender surgeries, why would anyone care what you say on economics LOL?

>>510183156
Here is more reality. If you want to sell a product and suddenly your product compared to others is now double the price, what do you think an importer of that product is going to do? Now if it is the only product available then the seller can well say "tough, I am not taking a hit on this, you will have to". That importer than has to try to sell that in the US at double the price it was before. what is a consumer going to do (not matter who it is) are they going to try to source another cheaper product, are they going to buy it at twice the price or negotiate that the importer and them take a hit each? So the question is do the likes of China have the power to corner the market in that product they sell? Do al the tariffs cover that particular product or are they the ones Trump left aside anyway? And are you happy for the status quo, for the likes of china to take all the market and then they can dictate the price anyway? Or are you a simpleton actually and only care about cheap crap from China and no market interference - despite the fact China is run by the CCP and basically run all their companies and have no laws probably use slaves to manufacture certain goods and can destroy vast swaves of the western manufacturing? Is the bottom line and saving a few dollars your only concern?

>>510183853
Not really. Ha. It’s fun watching your fragile guys pushing your demoralizing campaigns hard.

>>510183908
Says the party of the rich who hates everybody else ha.

>>510183938
Democrats aren't the party of the working class little bro. They have always been the party of slavery.

>>510177738
>Prices didn't go up.
Also, Epstein killed himself, acted alone, trafficked hundreds of children to himself only, and none of the videos he made or the numerous cctv cameras he had on any of his properties of any consequence. Red hat mass suicide is the only way to save this country.

>>510184000
Bye.

>>510183906
>>510183938
>>510183994
Youre so out of touch you still don't know why you lost in 2024

>>510184023
Later loser!

>>510183913
you keep describing situations in which the new equilibrium will be higher price than the previous one.

You also called me a simpleton in the same sentence in which you referenced "cheap crap from China", when the largest import categories from China to the US are industrial equipment and raw materials like ores/minerals/agricultural inputs etc. You don't even understand the basics of the topic on which you're attempting to lecture

This is still Biden's economy.

>>510184043
a prompt demonstration. thank you

>>510184132
Autopen's economy*

Based

Now we have more to send to Israel

Helping the American public? I don't believe in that shit lol

>>510184204
Truest Democrat here

>>510184264
I didnt hear any whining from liberals when Israel invaded Gaza, invaded Lebanon, invaded fucking Syria, and bombed Iran and Yemen under Biden.

I keep hearing about how Trump is scrimping and saving money, but I never see any of that fabled money hit my bank account, where it belongs. Strange.

>>510175273 (OP)
Great, so when will I, an American taxpayer, see the benefit from that?

>>510184391
You mean your tax cuts?

>>510184264
>Because team blue did thing that magically means team red never ever does any of that!!!
Kys

>>510175273 (OP)
>1.34 TRILLION deficit in 2025
>+ 27 billion from tariffs
AHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHAHAH HOLY FUCK YOU NIGGERS ARE ACTUALLY RETARDED

>>510184447
Great for the future, but what about the taxes I already paid that the government has now liberated?

>>510182798
You clearly only have a basic C- level high school education at best. Being the economics of world trade is complicated but it's not so complicated that one should be getting as hard filtered by it as clearly your dumb ass is for some reason.
China's and other county's tariffs have historically been for market protection. Limited in scope or in some case punitive in a coldwar style battle but with trade. Like how China crushed Australia's wine production.
What Trump is doing is blanket tariffs and going world wide for no reason other than tax'ing usa consumers even harder, to give tax breaks to wealthy and corps.. We are talking about totally different issues.
Trump is a moron. It's why he hyped up the V Nam 40% tariff, that is only going to make clothing here cost more. While he pitched now being able to sell SUV over there. So american's pay 40% more for fabric and clothing as that's Nam's biggest export. He hopes to sell 60k+ SUV that get 10mpg to a population with an average yearly income of........ $3,600. Great.. Art of the deal!!

>$27 billion surplus
>$36 trillion deficit
Oh shit.
I can't control my body. I'm going to my knees.

>>510184509
So we shouldn't try to have a surplus?

>>510184566
>try
This what you trying looks like? My ribs hurt. Please stop.

>>510184132
>This is still Biden's economy.
the covid money was printed under trump you retard

>>510184508
Democrats hold the world record for b giving Israel the most money in human history.
>>510184529
Your taxes under the previous administration funded tranny surgeries in Uganda.
>>510184538
It's weird how your position is that every country tariffing America is good but then when America does tariffs it's bad.

>>510184666
Stop taking credit for Biden's economy, bro. Only thing Trump has done is protect the world's biggest pedo crime ring by not releasing the Epstein list.

>>510184106
it's still cheap crap from China produced under zero safety laws, zero environmental laws so yes it's cheap shit and of course if a number on a balance sheet is lower than the other number a company will import cheap shit. So instead of buying American produced stuf the company will say "hey product A is far lower from those Chinks, my bottom line and profits for my shareholders dictate that I buy that shit". But hey if you are happy to support the CCP who don't care about their own country and also support western companies that either buy from the CCP or are even in business with them then that is your bag. But praise tell me how the world survive without China, before they were let into the WTO? How exactly did the world survive?

>>510184648
>try to have a surplus
>get one
>a foreinger is mad about it
Is Canada doing that well that you focus on another country's budget?

>>510184725
Autopen's economy*

>>510184566
>shouldn't try to have a surplus?
off the back of regressive taxation? No. It's brutally unfair and made double by the BBB raising even progressive tax rates on everyone making less than I think 150k.. So everyone middle class and lower is getting hit from all sides now even harder. So that the top 1% to say top 5% and corps get even more breaks and richer.

>>510184508
Democrats have held congress far longer than the GOP. So when you complain about how shit things are remember who had more control - oh plus the uniparty, must not forget all those deals when even the Dems needed that little help.

>>510184725
this just in, jewish puppet still doing exactly what jews tell him to do!
>>510184845
you mean the one controlled by jews?

>>510184793
Nigger, that's not a surplus. Did your retarded A1 secretary of education stop teaching you how to subtract? Take away 27 billion from 1.34 trillion. Do you have a surplus?

>>510175273 (OP)
27 billion in new taxes on everyone is nothing to celebrate.

>>510184894
Well Biden is a jew according to his own words. He even had his own rabbi growing up

>>510184937
It's a surplus for the month you retard

>>510175684
are you guys still talking about eggs?

>>510184968
Why stop there? Start making news articles about a surplus for the hour. What the fuck point of that besides placating morons?

>>510175273 (OP)
>We've taken record taxes from consumers
So... much.... winning

>>510182909
Imports in 2024 were $3,296B. If imports in 2025 are similar, then $255B in tariff revenue would be an effective average tariff rate of 7.7%. Trump plans to hike baseline tariffs to 15-20% and up to 50% on some goods, according to the news. Although imo I think such tariffs would cause imports to collapse in a year or two if implemented.

>>510184954
and trump got some blessing from a rabbi or whatever that makes him speshul or some shit, i just hope this shit collapses sooner rather than later this whole piss earth dystopia is wearing on me

>>510185021
Do you even know what a thread is about before you seethe in it?

>>510185087
Wow a blessing.
He also got a blessing from the pope. I guess that makes him Catholic now too.

>>510185109
Even if I grant you a 27 billion surplus for the year x 12 you'll end up with a 324 bil surplus. That's not enough to cover the .34 in the 1.34. Do you understand the scale of how retarded it is to celebrate this pitiful nothing while gutting your tax base with regressive tariffs? Do you understand how fucking retarded this truly is?

>dumb retards pay more in taxes
>budget increases temporarily
shockingly low iq thread

>>510175273 (OP)
Was talking to a CEO with a multinational business and he said this year has been great under Trump.

>>510184343
Colleges were literally shut down protesting Palestine

>>510184264
Trump halted all foreign aid and has set tariffs on everyone

Except to israel

>>510175273 (OP)
TODAY, HE BLESSES US WITH AN UNEXPECTED FINANCIAL BENEDICTION OF SUPERLATIVE PROPORTIONS!
GOD BLESS OUR ETERNAL INTERGALACTIC SUPRA EMPEROR,
DONALD J. TRUMP.

AMERICA IS HEALING AS WE SPEAK.

>>510185256
Taxes were lowered though
You mean your cuts to USAiD and DOGE

>>510175273 (OP)
Trump just keeps winning and trannies keep seething

>>510184715
>every country tariffing America is good but then when America does tariffs it's bad
because it's not apples to apples you idiot.. you have counties with 7m people but the same GDP as just North Dakota. A state with a population of 800k..
How does that 3rd world country hold off the 800 pound gorilla of trade that is USA without some sort of tariff and gov intervention? Other wise we could product dump over almost every industry sector they have.
Mean while you have someone living in North Dakota where the average income is around say 35k or so if I rem right. As in nearly x10 the income of a random person in Vietnam. Yet STILL far from rich by USA standards. So THAT fellow American has totally different needs from a tariff system. The main thing they don't need is a 40% blanket increase in every product out of Vietnam. Making parts for phones and clothing go up due to a regressive tax hidden behind it being called a tariff..
how do you NOT understand this sort of stuff?

>>510185220
We have to fucking start somewhere. Its the first since 2005. Fucking 20 years dude.

>>510176820
Perhaps being a highly-paid suit-wearing office-dwelling paper-pusher with a wall full of good goy certificates who peddles debt for a living would better meet your approval?

>>510185316
>Trump halted all foreign aid
Incredibly based

>>510185316
You mean the rent-a-riots paid for by jews? They're just false flags to make Israel seem sympathetic. Didn't work though lol

>>510185352
>China putting tariffs on America is good for China
>America putting tariffs on China is bad for America
I guess I'll never understand backward leftist logic. But then you people think you can just magically change your gender at any given moment

>>510185373
>Except Israel

Not based

>>510185447
No longer funding tranny surgeries in Uganda is based anon

>>510185423
>Jews want Palestine genocide exposed

Retard take

>>510185447
The foreign aid was halted to everyone but israel and egypt due to ongoing treaties

>>510185030
Why do you people even buy things?

If you're white, you can live without working. Just enjoy life while someone makes you money.

>>510185492
Giving infinite taxpayer gibs to Jews is the most cuck thing you can do

America first

>>510185368
The reality is you're not actually trying. Trumps tax cuts will add more deficit. It's fucking sad you actually believe they're trying to fix this. Good luck I guess. I think you're fucked. These numbers are insane.

>>510185565
>Giving infinite taxpayer gibs
But democrats aren't in power anymore?
Democrats hold the world record for giving the most money to Israel in human history

>>510185447
>>510185513
You're clearly a brown pussy though

>>510185575
>we shouldn't have a surplus because why even try
Ok leaf

>>510185575
Pajeets seething today lmao

>>510185575
>NOOO YOU ACTUALLY SHOULD BE HAVING A MONTHLY DEFICIT
imagine being this dumb

>>510176330
>>510177738
So this is how trumps retard base thinks tariffs work. They literally dont think the prices are increasing. They are THIS fucking stupid and they expect their retard opinions taken seriously

>>510185692
>>510185707
>>510185707
>>510185728

>>510185802
>>510185764
>t. monthly deficits are good poster

>>510185350
EXACTLY BRO THAT'S WHAT'S UP.
THAT IS PRECISELY WHAT IS GOING ON.

>>510185764
>foreigner telling me what is and isn't happening in my country
I legitimately dont know kr care what happens in leafland

Trump just killed the penny because Jews have destroyed its value.

In 1913, the Federal Reserve Act was passed, establishing the Jewish Federal Reserve System as the central bank of the United States.

Examples of what a penny could buy in 1913:
– A penny could cover the postage for sending a postcard.
– A penny could purchase a half dozen eggs.
– A penny could afford a small candy bar or piece of candy.
– A penny could be used for a short bus or train ride within the city.
– A penny could purchase a small, everyday item at a general store.

Trump has signed executive orders over the last few months supporting Jewish cryptocurrency.

Crypto + Digital ID + Digital Surveillance + Social Credit = A digital trap the “Goyim” cannot escape

>>510185368
This is a surplus for the month, not a surplus for the year. The US is still running a deficit for the year. In fact the deficit so far this year is higher than at the same period last year.

The US runs monthly surpluses regularly. They happen every April and they also happen in some other months, usually due to calendar effects. For example, there was a surplus of $49B in the month of January 2018 and a surplus of $89B in August 2024. Source:
https://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/files/reports-statements/mts/mts0719.pdf
https://www.fiscal.treasury.gov/files/reports-statements/mts/mts0324.pdf

>>510185855
>I am actually retarded and my reading comprehension doesn't exist
Neat.

>>510185971
Yea you're pretty dumb lol

>>510186009
>m-moooom I am trolling the 4chan
lol, lmao

>>510185959
>In fact the deficit so far this year is higher than at the same period last year.
*cumulative deficit

>>510186049
Yea you are lol

>>510185959
Oh nvm its the first June surplus in 20 years

Donald Trump / July 26, 2024

“I love you Christians. I’m not Christian.”

“In four years, you don't have to vote again. We'll have it fixed so good, you're not gonna have to vote.”

https://youtu.be/gE7xoHJkgvE

Trump Uncomfortable Talking About His Favorite Book – the Holy Bible

https://youtu.be/ERUngQUCsyE

>>510185431
again, you're just too stupid to see the over all larger picture of what is going on. Like I know you're also trolling being even in a world of dumb people nobody is as dumb as you're trying to fake right now.
but I'll still explain this issue for others (not you, troll) who might just not have an econ background. The issues with China and the USA with tariffs is totally different being it's a cold war level fight but with trade. USA wants to cripple and slow china's econ being they are using it as soft power to gain influence everywhere. Where as the USA gains most of it's influence with our war machine.
so the Chain vs USA tariff issue isn't the same as say trade with USA and Canada. Yet Trump, being a moron and looking to do a regressive tax on the middle class, doesn't care. He wants to bully and tariff everyone world wide with blanket tariffs despite historically tariffs are for market segment protection only.
Even that is tricky as what should happen is the tariffs come off at some point but in many cases they don't so you get issues like we have with USA ship building. All of this is way more complicated than just hurrr durr USA good that country bad or whatever. Every exact tariff should have a per product or market segment reason for being in place,
not Trumps ehhhh pull a number out of my ass so 50% on everything from Brazil like he did a few days ago

>>510185764
I know how they work because the EU literally puts tariffs and blocks on UK products. Can you explain how many chinese EV's are sold in the US? Now why are Chinese EV's not sold in the US and some people buy them via Mexico? And what do China do to try to sell EV's in the world? They register them, export them as secondhand and then they are sold at a lower price. Why exactly did Canada have tariffs on US products if tariffs a le bad? You do realise tariffs are used all over the world for protection and the US being a consooomer market don't tend to. And it is telling that the seething going on by other countries who are selling products into the US, if tariffs are paid by the US consumers, then why are you seething, why did the Canadian politicians bust a fuse when Trump announced them?

>>510175273 (OP)
Wow that's crazy, I still can't afford rent and groceries though so who really gives a shit?

>>510186164
It's weird how your position is that every country tariffing America is good but then when America does tariffs it's bad

>>510175346
>>510175273 (OP)
imagine believing this tho

>>510175273 (OP)
>far right establishment: here's some fake good news, now please stop taking about Epstein

>Approve $5000 billion big beautiful bill
>Only $27 billion left already (0.5%)
wtf?

>>510185959
Thanks for pointing out the deceptive pilpul the whole thread is based around. Trump is a pedo enabler.

>>510175273 (OP)
>far right establishment: here's some fake good news, now please stop talking about Epstein

>>510175273 (OP)
>>510175346

Boomers were paid 5 cents an hour at lowest and were buying property at 25 cents an acre

I can’t afford to eat at McDonald’s I make 65$ an hour


We’re fucked no matter what fake surplus the government has (by the way they print all the money)

>>510186215
All the cuts to retarded NGOs and tranny operations around the world adds up

>>510186292
Why is a monthly surplus a BAD thing? Because drumpf?

>>510175684
>Tariffs are not a tax on citizens
not a "tax" technically
but they do require citizens to pay more -- unless businesses absorb the increased costs out of the magical goodness of their hearts

>>510186336
It’s not a bad thing we just don’t want to swallow the bullshit.

>>510186393
So you want more infinite monthly deficits. Got it.

>>510186318
Nigger you think a BigMac is $65?

>>510186106
It is not. For example, there were surpluses in June 2006, 2008, 2013, 2014, 2015 and 2016

Here you can see all monthly surpluses
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MTSDS133FMS

>>510186336
Remember to talk about absolutely anything other than Epstein
>>510186453
you argue like a menopausal woman

>>510177278
they import most of what's needed to harvest, transport, distribute, and market food (machinery, fertilizer, trucks, storage facility materials, associated services, etc)

>>510185728
you clearly don't understand why is meant by regressive vs progressive taxation. Gaining a sudden surplus from a regressive tax hidden behind calling it a tariff? As we do blanket global tariffs just means the middle class is being absolutely hammered even more for that month.
a group of people that in many cases are living pay check to pay check and can barely afford rent but hey they paid more for stuff across the board so yaaa surplus...... that can be used to send more money to Israel. Being it's not like it's going toward our health care, roads, education etc.

>>510186542
You have the logic of a menopausal woman.

>Prices aren't going up goy
>Don't believe your lying eyes
>Also Epstein killed himself and acted alone
>Also also remember to support Israel

>>510186562
So you want more infinite monthly deficits. Got it.

>>510176065
/thread

>>510175372
Maybe manage your budget better and spend less of it on caffeine, capeshit and weed

>>510187987
>guts the tax base to afford the tax cuts
>have you tried budgeting better
lmao, holy fuck. Literal cattle.

>>510175886
>Apologize
Goyim, I...

>>510188105
Better cattle than homosexual zombies