They're ABSOLUTELY OUTRAGED that they can't peddle their disgusting pornography to your kids without an ID check. Now they're rallying behind my "muh free speech rights to give your kids porno." They're saying they won't comply, and that it's their duty as a Constitution-loving American to continue their writing, free of restrictions.

How do you respond?

https://ellsberg.substack.com/p/free-speech

Launch everyone who disagrees with me into the sun

>>510197774 (OP)
They're right, and its free speech, and the ruling should have only targeted jew professional porn sites

>>510197774 (OP)
>writers like me
>who include sex scenes intended for other adults

So how is this affecting him, that kids wont be able to read his diarrhea?

>>510197774 (OP)
>come and get me
He says, bravely. You should have been a responsible parent and added his site to a content blocker long ago. You failed as a parent.

>>510198103
because the ruling says he now has to pay a jew company to force ID on every visitor to his site (i.e., destroying all traffic and costing him tons)

I think the OP is a fag and the person who wrote that is also hyperventilating. Anything they just said is easily overturned in court, and it would be the obligation of the website host to control that content, not the user. If his hyperbole were true, 4chan could be sued for the porn on it as there is no age verification here either. And you know what Hiro would do in response to said lawsuit? Ignore it.

>>510198103
He's pretending its for adults, but he clearly wants evereyone including kids to read it, and he's mad that he now has to make sure only adults read it.

>>510198307
On all boards that contain adult content, there should be. I wouldn't want my kids reading 4chan either.

>>510197774 (OP)
Parents are such lazy faggots. It's not the government's job to make sure your kids aren't reading smut.

>>510200514
Imagine being so gay you willingly leave money on the table. I’m calling my lawyer sister right now to file some lawsuits. I literally make my living having my sister sue people for me. It’s great

>>510200514
>Just let pornographers give kids pornography. If you don't like it, it's your fault.
Found the Jew

>>510198307
>Anything they just said is easily overturned in court,
This article was about the Supreme court ruling in favor of ID laws retard

>>510203328
Control your children wigger

>>510197774 (OP)
See scenes are cringe. Keep your fetish fan fiction to yourselves.

>>510198237
Based. Get fucked groomers

>>510203398
I don't want to live in a society where I have to spy on my kids every waking moment to make sure some kike like you isn't corrupting them by feeding them filth when I'm not looking.

Guess what, your jewish ass is going to prison :)

>>510197774 (OP)
So the government wants age verification for kids on the internet. Are they going to implement a safe system for people to verify a user's age or do they really expect people to send their ID to random websites and hope it isn't used for anything bad?
This is fucking retarded.
Normal people can't safely verify someone's age over the internet. Its literally impossible.

>>510203612
>my kids
Your incel ass doesn't have kids. You're not fooling anyone.

>>510203752
You're obviously still seething from age gates on porn sites. Your coomer brain parasite is lashing out and forcing you to behave this way.

>>510203641
>Oh nooo!!!! It's impossible to verify IDs like millions of other places do!!! It'll never work or curb any criminal behavior!!!!
Another coom brain who refuses to accept reality. I guess we should just have no laws, since they're literally just words and don't stop anybody? lmao fucking retard

>>510204061
>if you like privacy you are a coomer
hang all eglinfaggots, notice they will never shut down major porn companies
>muh kids
don't give kids smartphones or internet access, it's literally that simple. but of course (((you))) don't actually care about the children, do you?

Brotip: dont let your kids browse the internet at whim. that being said

>berg

>>510197774 (OP)
This consequence naturally flows from teachers filling public schools with smut and calling it educational. Writers weren't complaining about the corruption of children before, so now they suffer for the corruption they allowed if not supported.

>>510204475
>Ha, just live like a Mennonite if you don't want me feeding your kids filth, check mate.
Another evil tranny argument. Maybe you should just move out of the way if you don't want me shooting you in the face, check mate, it's your fault for being in front of my gun lmao

>if you like privacy you are a coomer
"If you like privacy," LMAO. What a cope. You are 1000% a tranny. You don't get a right to give kids pornography privately you dumb fuck lmao

>>510197774 (OP)
I LOVE GOVERNMENT SURVEILLANCE!
I LOVE GOVERNMENT SURVEILLANCE!

>>510204872
I was going to say that nobody is forcing you to consume porn and "violate" your privacy by asking you to consensually give your id, but it's obvious your coom-brain parasite IS actually forcing you to consume porn, which is why you feel violated. Because you can't help it.

>muh privacy!!!
Once Zero-Knowledge Proofs (ZKPs) hit mainstream, it will be hilarious to see what coomers pivot to next, since they won't have a heckin privacy argument anymore. Anyone want to give me a preview of your next cope?

>>510204863
>you are basically a mennonite if you do not give your kids smartphones
what kind of logic is this? kids don't need a damn smartphone, period.
>Maybe you should just move out of the way if you don't want me shooting you in the face, check mate, it's your fault for being in front of my gun lmao
what the fuck are you trying to say here geg
>You are 1000% a tranny.
and you are from eglin.

>>510206288
Motte and Bailey defense lmao
Funny how you've completely abandoned your "no internet" argument you dishonest kike.

You want to blame others for the evil that you want to flaunt publicly to the world "just don't look at it! just let me be evil publicly, it's your fault for seeing it!" classic jew.

>>510197774 (OP)
Wait, words can cross state lines?
But seriously, I can see the problem here. Video porn is one thing. Literature meant to be entirely or majority pornographic, I can see. But one paragraph of sexually explicit material?
Are they trying to shut down the entire internet?
Let's not forget rule 34 here.
It's fucking rule 34, for fuck's sake.
Will this extend to AI generated images?
Memes?
One paragraph of sexually explicit material allows massive lawsuits?
Okay, what sort of things can we sue other people for across state lines then?
Can we sue for Zionism? We absolutely should be able to. Anybody advocating for the murder of children in Gaza deserves to be sued. Palestinians should be able to sue jews worldwide for Zionism.
What about suing real estate moguls for gentrification? They literally force us out of our homes, damage our lives significantly. We should sue them for it.
What about suing Mormons and Christcucks for religious harassment when they accost us on the streets or knock on our doors trying to convert us?
So many things I'd love to be able to sue people for.
Whatever, I guess Wordpress will now be forced to implement an age filter across the board and the only sites like Amazon and Facebook will be easy to access. Maybe not Facebook.
It's all so fucking tedious.

>>510197774 (OP)
E621 had an auto fill letter to the AZ governor to not make a porn ID law (they are hosted in arizon)

One of the reasonsw as "LGBT education." Oh cool. A furry prone site wants to show gay furry porn to kids. Now I'm convinced they need an ID law

>>510206792
>Funny how you've completely abandoned your "no internet" argument you dishonest kike.
check post IDs and come back to me
>You want to blame others for the evil that you want to flaunt publicly to the world "just don't look at it! just let me be evil publicly, it's your fault for seeing it!" classic jew.
then why don't you go after jewish porn companies then? obviously you won't, because (((you))) want everyone to be identifiable on the internet so you can shut them down for a heckin' antisemitism.
>>510207219
>One of the reasonsw as "LGBT education."
LMAO that's actually sad as fuck.

>>510207219
Kikes, trannies and fags ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS use pornography a tool for their ulterior motives, which is almost always some form of attacking heteronormativity, be it through grooming kids or ruining healthy relationships between men and women. Then when you call them out on it, they fall back on "muh noble God-given free speech!" like the evil subversive faggots that they are.

It is the biggest red flag possible for someone to defend pornography, under any circumstances. They're trying to confuse you into thinking you're doing something elevated and principled by defending their degeneracy.

>>510207636
>>510204475
>don't give kids smartphones or **INTERNET ACCESS**
Dishonest kike, confirmed.

>because (((you))) want everyone to be identifiable on the internet
>muh heckin privacy
ctrl+f "ZKP" retard. Oh my bad, you're a brainlet and don't even know what that is.

>>510207067
>Are they trying to shut down the entire internet?
Pretty much the goal is to make it so basically every site is forced to do ID checks.

>>510208154
Yeah just like how every store in the US is forced to do ID checks because bars do ID checks. Damn what a world we've become.

South Korea implemented internet ID laws in 2007. It was exploited and identity theft increased by 300%. In response, in 2012, the ID laws were overturned by the South Korean Constitutional court.
And now the US is implementing internet ID laws. Anyone in favor of this is just a retard.

>>510207876
where did i abandon my points? don't give kids smartphones or internet access, dunno why you have a problem with this statement and are relentlessly pushing government IDs to "protect kids". if you care about kids, go after the porn companies but (((you obviously won't))).
>muh zkp
barely relevant
>>510208794
thank you.

>>510208794
>My understanding of the world and the state of technology is at least a decade old.
Yes I know, you too are a brainlet.
The risk of "muh identity theft" is 0 with ZRPs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOGdb1CTu5c

The sexual revolution completely ignored its impact on children, these degenerates know their content eventually makes it to children. I can't wait until we bring back crucifixion.

>>510208794
One thing to consider is how incompetently this is bound to be introduced. Florida decided to require ID for porn sites not too long ago, but porn .gifs are still available with an internet search, and Hentai sites as far as I know are still accessible without ID. So it's a mild inconvenience at best, if you're not indulging in massive porn binges. That reminds me, I should check to see if I can still find the entirety of Pirates 2: Stagnetti's Revenge on Twitter and download it.

>>510209043
>entire argument hinges on id privacy
>"zkp? barely relevant"
brainlet confirmed. you have no argument with an age ZKP. it reveals nothing about the person, other than if they're a legal adult or not. now you're just coping and trying to distract, because you have nothing else to cling to.

>>510209054
It's already been proven to fail and you want to do it anyways. You want everyone to give every bit of what's left of online privacy just because children happen to exist. It's the same old story of, 'think of the children' so now you have to give all your rights and freedoms away.

>>510203424
>groomers
>random website not meant for kids
Die in a fire kike lover

>>510197937
>Jewish porn sites are ok as long as they're AMATEUR.
No.
Requiring you to check IDs does not violate your right to free speech.

>You can't make us check IDs before we let people into our nightclub that violates our freedom of assembly.
lol
lmao

>>510207876
Nah its really simple you statist zogbot, you should be beat to death for trying to force your horse shit on the world

By the way I'll never trust stuff like this because "porn" is never given a hard definition.

>>510209774
>trying to force your horse shit on the world
We've put up with your faggot degeneracy for a lot longer, so, you first. Face the wall :)

>>510209624
>I NEED my RIGHT to show pornography to under 18s. If I don't, the entire world will collapse into 1984!!!
Nobody is buying your shit anymore, kike

>>510209808
Here comes the word definers to muddy the waters. If you give him a definition, he'll write 10 paragraphs on the subjective meaning of words, as if nothing is definable. I'm amazed he's even able to hold a conversation, given how impossible it is to nail down definitions of words.

>>510209465
exactly. the entire "we must save the childeren with goverment IDs" is a massive shameful larp. you care about kids being affected by porn? go after mindgeek.
>>510209530
>trust random websites to use something that will respect user privacy
lol no. the jew fucks that are pushing government ID for internet sites don't want that shit, i will genuinely be surprised if they use zkp, hell your entire argument is hoping that zkp will be mainstream one day and the goverment will be benevolent enough to have a crumb of privacy.
>>510209624
you have a paper i can read?

>>510210163
>to have a crumb of privacy.
*to give you a crumb of privacy

>>510210086
>If you give him a definition, he'll write 10 paragraphs on the subjective meaning of words

No that's only if you give me a definition that is wishy washy. Something like "a real life Penis or Vagina/Anus is visible on screen engaging in sexual activities" would be fine, but you'd never give me something like that because you want a catch-all definition that can be applied to anything.

>>510210249
>that's only if you give me a definition that is wishy washy
lmao nobody is going to play your subjective word games, 22 year old neckbeard. you don't have a handle on reality yet.

>>510197937
>They're right, and its free speech
the written word is involate free speach or should be. I can see a case for video or imagery to be controlled. By OPs point Voltaires Candide could now be banned in some states as it is bawdy or Moll Flanders?

The USA is a bit fucked up right now

>>510210086
There's other/better ways to go about it. It's the parents responsibility, not the governments. Just have parental controls on the kids computer, it's that simple. And this isn't even actually about kids to begin with.

>>510210451
I literally just gave you an example definition that would be acceptable.

>>510197774 (OP)
It has always been my dream to be indicted for shitposts, to go to a courtroom and make a prosecution attorney read countless racist remarks aloud while jurors try not to laugh. We're getting closer by the day, boys.

>>510210567
>>510210482
>the written word is involate free speach or should be.

>>510210505
Wow damn you are the first person to define pornography in a bulletproof way that pedantic lawyers can't pick apart, you should be a SCOTUS justice

>>510210489
>We must tolerate all forms of crime and degeneracy because parents should be monitoring everything their kids do 24/7 or else it is their fault
If it's a crime to stand next to a playground and hand out porno mags to kids, it's a crime to do it online. Imagine thinking you should arrest the parent because some sicko targeted their kid when the parent wasn't looking. Totally coom-brain compromised. Your debilitating addiction to pornography is apparent.

>>510210163
https://www.biometricupdate.com/202503/south-koreas-age-assurance-policies-built-on-years-of-systemic-political-change

https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-19357160

https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/business/tech-science/20110802/calls-mount-for-overhaul-of-internet-security-system

https://apnews.com/general-news-01fc53bf34b6471d9a35c10c78b36fec

>>510210163
>zkp is just...not gonna work, ok! i'm too doomerpilled to accept any solution except my unfettered access to porn!
you're too doomerpilled to do anything of any value, so just sit back while we steamroll you, coomerbrain

>>510197774 (OP)
The People's speech will be written with their burning bodies

>>510207876
I mean look at roblox (site owned by star thee david)

>>510211417
I'll also paste this from chatgpt since i'm lazy:

Since 2012, the government no longer uses the 2007-style internet ID laws tied to RRNs—but the alternative systems introduced after 2012 have also been exploited for identity theft:

1. i‑PIN system hacks (2014–2015)

The i‑PIN (Internet Personal Identification Number) was introduced post‑2012 as a safer alternative to RRNs. However:

February 2014: Two individuals sold i‑PIN data tied to RRNs and names, which allowed account creation and fraud on multiple platforms.

March 2015: Hackers stole over 750,000 i‑PINs from the Ministry’s system, then used them to take over accounts on gaming websites


2. Security flaws built into i‑PIN

As early as 2008, researchers found vulnerabilities across multiple government and private sites allowing interception of i‑PINs

3. SIM / mobile-based ID threats (2025)

Today’s mobile verification (PASS, SMS-based identity) has also been exploited:

April 2025: A breach at SK Telecom exposed SIM and authentication data for 27 million users, enabling SIM swaps and large-scale identity theft

Summary

While South Korea abolished the RRNs-based real-name system in 2012, every replacement—including i‑PIN and mobile-based identity verification—has faced security breaches and been exploited for identity theft.

>>510198103
Goonslaves are in a completely opaque mental fog when they goon. In this fugue state a barrier to their goon material (like having to verify their ID) would frustrate them enough to choose another site where they can goon freely.

>>510213327
I forgot to add the articles

https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/business/companies/20081001/i-pin-exposed-to-hacking

https://indychung.medium.com/the-hidden-crisis-in-koreas-digital-security-2712f28a8eec

I'll also add that, when you wanted to get into an online korean game's closed beta back then, you could easily find huge lists of korean social security numbers to gain access to the closed betas. The lists were just publicly thrown around everywhere on game forums. This is the RRN system that's being mentioned. Later they made it require phone number and then address. There has been workarounds/exploits for all of them. These systems are all flawed. And implementing them into US law is idiotic.

>>510203413
Women are 90 percent of the customer base for publishing and “romance” is the top selling category. Sex really does sell.
To women.

>>510197937
>>510210482
>>510209728
It’s not right and is brazenly against the constitution. Charging you money for expressing ideas is a lotnlike the nfa, charging you tax stamps to use your basic rights.

They should have reversed porn being free speech, THEN banned it altogether. Except for written smut since no written or spoken idea should ever be allowed to be restricted.

>>510215503
Keep muddying the waters, kike, and ignore ZKPs , which preserve ALL privacy

>>510197774 (OP)
Id tell him to get a real job.

>>510197774 (OP)
Can I get an early life check on the seether, Mr. Michael Ellsberg?

>>510216619
Do you even need one after seeing that (((surname)))?

>>510210901
>Wow damn you are the first person to define pornography in a bulletproof way that pedantic lawyers can't pick apart, you should be a SCOTUS justice

Maybe you're not paying attention to the current zeitgeist but even things like titillation get your ESG funding slashed, I'm not gullible enough to believe they're restricting what they want to go after to actual porn.

>>510216619
Now let's peruse his X https://x.com/MichaelEllsberg

He's a God-hating kike? I'm shocked! Shocked!

>>510197774 (OP)
I give a fuck of writers, but please tell me how you can't ensure that ID checks online can't misused for censorship - If you open the door once they WILL use this data. Or do you really trust your government? They now want to supervise EVERY EU citizens online chats if their re-newed proposal - for how much percent of predators? I'm for the death penalty for this people but I won't let the fucking government spy on me.

>>510216720
yeah, it's just...every single time.

>>510216418
Let's look at chatgpt again


What ZKPs can't fix on their own:

Trust still depends on issuers

You need a trusted authority to issue the zero-knowledge credentials (like a government, bank, or identity provider). If that issuer is corrupt, coercive, or poorly designed, ZKPs can’t save the system.

Device-level compromise

If your phone or wallet storing the ZK credential gets hacked, you’re still compromised, even if the protocol is perfect.

Network surveillance or metadata leaks

ZKPs don’t inherently protect against when, how often, or where you’re using your identity — that can still be tracked.

Complexity and adoption hurdles

ZKPs are difficult to implement correctly. Many projects still rely on trusted setups or unproven assumptions.

They can be computationally expensive and hard to explain to the public or lawmakers.


I think you're way to naively optimistic that ZKPs will be implemented.

problem
reaction
solution

Remember those three words, they are the root of most of the strategies employed against us. If you dont know this you will be fooled.

>create the problem
>control the reaction
>provide the solution

desired outcome: suppress access to information (block redpills)

>problem: rampant pornography, spread it everywhere, add some incest and troons really gross people out
>reaction: pose as disgusted conservatives demanding change and fake it till you make it grassroots support. "wont someone think of the children," have them cheer on and demand your solution
>solution: you need to prove your id to look at porn

Now thats what you do when the right is seemingly in power. Then comes the lefts turn, then you expand more problem/reaction/solution with the "problem" being "hate speech" and "misinformation". And the solution being to expand the solution already established for the porn problem while the right was seemingly in power to hate speech and misinformation as well once the pendulum swings back and the left is seemingly in power.

It's not that the problem isn't real, it's that the problem was fed and cultivated and used in order to bring about a solution that serves the goals of our enemy.

end result: 1st amendment freedom of speech is for adults (that`s what will be said, thats how the solution passes), that`s why you`ll still be able to access the information if you prove your age. but it will allow them to suppress access to the information as many people wont be inclined or too paranoid to sign in with an id to read conspiracies, better brainwash the youth and prevent youth redpilling by blocking access to this information, make it harder to share this material, and have it on certain undeniable provable in court record who has read it.

>>510217354
Olympic level coping water muddying
>But what if your phone gets hacked!!!
>But it relies on a government authority to authorize the credential!!!
>But it's too difficult to do!!! :O
>But it can still track you if they implement it wrong!!!
You're just a little faggot clinging to his "muh south korea 15 years ago." Your degerated coombrain refuses to accept the idea that his privacy can be preserved while he beats off to cuck porn. You'd rather your kike friends be allowed to show porn to kids, and blame the parents instead.

Now go back to chatgpt and pretend like you knew about ZKPs before I told you about them (you clearly didn't).

>>510197774 (OP)
A law that restricts content should be localized to the state. So any parent that allows a minor to access the age restricted material is guilty of a felony and faces 15 years in jail.

>>510218288
>"muh south korea 15 years ago."
You must have not read everything i've posted or perhaps you have poor reading comprehension. They're having the same problem with it to this day. So if you're even capable of seeing patterns, the US will have the exact same issues.
>You'd rather your kike friends be allowed to show porn to kids
They're not my kids, i'm not responsible for them. Let their parents be parents. And put moderation on the phones, tablets, computers themselves, not the entirety of the internet. Why are you so tunnel visioned into dictating this issue in this way? You really think there's no other alternative than to make it so it affects every adult in the process?
>and blame the parents instead.
Yes, they are to blame. If the parents of a mass shooter are to be blamed then parents should be blamed in this case also.
The fact that kids exist is just being weaponized. They'll start with porn and go after everything else. You're the lying conspiring jew here.

>>510219301
>They're not my kids
There it is. Doesn't give a fuck about the next generation as long as he can jerk his dick to an internet flooded with pornography lmao. You're probably like 22
>You really think there's no other alternative than to make it so it affects every adult in the process?
Imagine thinking every adult would be affected by porn age verification. COMPLETELY COOM BRAINED. Holy shit get off line and touch grass

>They'll start with porn and go after everything else.
Yeah just like every store verifies IDs because the bar verifies IDs. Makes so much sense. Slippery slope seething nigger

>>510197774 (OP)
OP you're just cherrypicking the bad Jews because you're a mudslime invader

>>510219597
Do you know why facebook, twitter, youtube, etc. are so prevalent today? Why the old, 'what happens online stays online' is completely done away with?
Internet chatrooms: aim, msn, yahoo, etc. were gotten rid of using the same exact method. 'children are at risk', 'think of the children'.
It was all to make way for the government programs we see put in place today. facebook, etc.
It's the goverment and corporations (call it the jews if you prefer) conspiring together for more control. It's the same old story.
You're just too blind, deaf and dumb to see it. or you're a jew. One or the other.
>Yeah just like every store verifies IDs because the bar verifies IDs.
You conflating online with real life argument is irrelevant. It's a false comparison.

>>510198307
>Anything they just said is easily overturned in court
It was just affirmed in court, the Supreme Court. That's the whole point of the post.

>>510197774 (OP)
I can’t wait to sue this nigger for millions of dollars

>>510220777
>Internet chatrooms: aim, msn, yahoo, etc. were gotten rid of
LOL nigger there's a million of these internet chatrooms. Telegram, discord, irc. You're thrashing at strawmen that never existed retard.

SCOTUS ruled in my favor, so you're just going to have to deal with it. The sky isn't going to fall, and you're going to feel real stupid for hyperventilating about your privacy. Maybe by then you'll be sober from your porn addiction so you'll finally be able to appreciate a positive change in the world. I doubt it, but you're powerless anyways. Maybe you'll eat a bullet instead (hopefully).

>>510219722
OP didn't say anything about Jews.

>>510197774 (OP)
Clearly a handout to whatever company is doing the ID checking.
Probably owned by some Israelis.

>>510222196
(And they're definitely using ID checks as a way to keep tabs on Americans and their porn habits)

>>510197774 (OP)
>omg are those letters arranged in an order i don't like??? ARREST HIM
clown

>>510222054
>LOL nigger there's a million of these internet chatrooms. Telegram, discord, irc. You're thrashing at strawmen that never existed retard.
You completely missed the point. I never said chatrooms don't exist, I said the original culture of open, anonymous, decentralized chat (like aim, msn, yahoo, irc) was systematically dismantled and replaced with platforms like discord and telegram that are centralized, surveilled, and increasingly tied to real IDs.
So yes, chat apps exist, but they are not functionally or culturally the same. You're the one building a strawman by pretending I meant total extinction, when I was pointing out how free space was co-opted and controlled.

if you let your kid go online you should be hanged.
it shouldn't be up to everyone else to bubble wrap the world for your shitty brats.
take some fucking responsibility for once in your life and stop putting the blame on others when YOUR kid turns into a loony troon or a faggot