IF RUSSIA FAILS TO SHOW STRENGTH, THEY WILL BE INVADED - /pol/ (#510210808) [Archived: 493 hours ago]

Anonymous ID: x6FkFHuGBrazil
7/13/2025, 12:07:54 AM No.510210808
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The realist school of foreign politics claims that peace can only be achieved if all possible opposing alliances and factions can project enough power that a potential conflict becomes disadvantageous for both. It was what kept near a century of peace in Europe (albeit the limited and short wars), as well as the near century of peace after WW2.

Currently, Europe is re-arming itself forced by the United States, who is unwilling to bear the burden. Europeans themselves are neurotics, convinced by the press that their historical trading partner Russia is an enemy that may invade at any time. So much they consider inevitable a russian invasion that they may preemptively invade Belarus and Russia while attempting to drag the americans in through a fuzzy overstretch of article 5 of the NATO alliance.

I am not afraid of Russia invading Europe. There is nothing to gain there, and Putin (unlike euro propaganda claims about their decades-long trading partner) is not a fanatic. I am afraid of Europe once again pulling their centuries-old stunt of invading Russia in their moment of weakness.

And this will inevitably happen if Russia keeps showing weakness. Remember: Hitler invaded after Russia looked weak in Finland, and Germany invaded after Russia was squashed in Tannenberg.

Can't Russia reveal a super weapon or something? Test a nuke? Just do anything to remind europeans that they'll find out if they fuck around. I am genuinely concerned with an euro invasion right now.
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Anonymous ID: cKaoIZzwUnited States
7/13/2025, 12:10:13 AM No.510210984
>>510210808 (OP)
I understand why they would feel that way considering Russian history is just them being invaded and raided along the Eurasian steppe so much, but NATO isnโ€™t going to launch a traditional invasion of Russia. It favors subtle, slow approaches for big powers, trying to incite internal change. Theyโ€™re trying to solve a more complex issue with stones and hammers
Anonymous ID: 9BdlaGQtUkraine
7/13/2025, 12:15:47 AM No.510211396
Almost whole world, and especially western countries, is about to enter great depression style crisis. Nobody fights wars of even rearms during this period. And it's actually Russia one of the few countries which has good financial conditions, resources which is by far most critical right now, and industrial growth. Europe is particularly in bad situation, because few resources and no cheap access to them (ironically it was Russia), it's already deindustrializing and we haven't even entered the peak of crisis. Rearming my ass.
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Anonymous ID: Qm1RSapHGermany
7/13/2025, 12:18:32 AM No.510211611
>IF RUSSIA FAILS TO SHOW STRENGTH
Okay... when do they start?
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Anonymous ID: /fpyzA2kIreland
7/13/2025, 12:18:48 AM No.510211635
>>510210808 (OP)
Most Russians, especially the ones of importance, live near Moscow. This is where most of the population lives. One nuke in Moscow could wipe out the whole country.
Anonymous ID: XnBxCDn4United States
7/13/2025, 12:21:30 AM No.510211819
>>510210808 (OP)
Imagine how funny it would be if Poland invaded Belarus and Russia had to pretend to respond but nothing happened.
Anonymous ID: kIp4VC20United Kingdom
7/13/2025, 12:23:17 AM No.510211961
This is the opposite of the truth. It's Russia which always expands where it senses weakness.
The whole reason for this war is that Putin thought Ukraine was weak. That's all.
All the stuff about NATO, fascists, genocide, biolabs, trannies/pride parades, etc is just post-facto justification for something that was going to happen anyway - because Russian leader thought invasion would be easy.
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Anonymous ID: x6FkFHuGBrazil
7/13/2025, 12:23:31 AM No.510211977
rearm europe3
rearm europe3
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>>510211396
ReArm Europe and forcing them to spend 5% of GDP is a code for ReArm Europe... by buying american and israeli weapons.

Look it up, israeli economy heavily relies on exports of military-related tech.
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Anonymous ID: JRcHpZ1ICanada
7/13/2025, 12:24:56 AM No.510212088
>>510211961
nigger tier analysis
Anonymous ID: /fpyzA2kIreland
7/13/2025, 12:30:49 AM No.510212512
>>510211961
The zionist regime baited Russia into Ukraine so that they couldn't help Syria and Iran. Like it or not but the zionists and American military complex are playing 4D chess. Russia isn't a superpower, and I'm tired of people pretending that they are.
Anonymous ID: x6FkFHuGBrazil
7/13/2025, 12:32:03 AM No.510212602
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>>510211961
Anglo propaganda at its best. If you are sheep, don't heed the words of this wolf. The ukrainians heard advice from an anglo, and look how they are now.

Russia has been invaded more than five times since 1825, a plenty more if you go even further back in history (which the russians do, considering the Putin interview) or consider Polish nonsense as a variable (Poland invaded Russia so many times that they had to be eliminated as a country due to a fatal case of autism).

How many times has Britain been invaded in that period of time? Not a single one. The last real threat to you was the spanish armada. How many times has Britain decided to field armies on Europe? More than twenty times since the spanish failed to rid the world of this cancer that is Britain. Britain itself is a greater threat to Europe than Russia, and there is no doubt that should a based anti-zionist state ever establish itself in France or Germany and decide to expel the refugees, you'd be the first in line to volunteer to fight it โ€” just like you were the first in line telling Zelensky to fight to the last hohol.

Russia won't invade Europe. What does Europe even have to offer? They are natural allies and trading partners, and trading with Germany was immensely profitable to both countries. It was the USA and Ukraine and Poland that destroyed Nordstream2, not Russia. Russia has no intention to conquer Europe, much for the opposite. The best case scenario is if Europe realized that trading Russia for the USA is idiotic.
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Anonymous ID: x6FkFHuGBrazil
7/13/2025, 12:35:49 AM No.510212891
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>>510211611
This is exactly the problem. Human beings are just neurotic monkeys. You europeans will invade the nanossecond Russia looks vulnerable because you forgot the decades you just spent trading in peace with them because an american told you to.

Russia is just not impressing anyone. They were supposed to steam roll a country or two, or at least reveal a super weapon. Instead they are taking in help from North Korea.

This looks terrible. The absence of Russia has weakened the power projection of its allies too, causing a war in the Caucasus and the defeat of the Assad regime.

We desperately need a reminder that Mother Russia is a nation of warriors.
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Anonymous ID: kdFhXLC+France
7/13/2025, 12:39:44 AM No.510213189
>>510211396
>And it's actually Russia one of the few countries which has good financial conditions
>15% interest rates on 10-years bonds
lmao Ivan you're borrowing at 5x the interest rate of western europe.

You're going under trying to take 4 desolated oblasts.
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Anonymous ID: /fpyzA2kIreland
7/13/2025, 12:42:54 AM No.510213421
>>510212602
>The last real threat to you was the spanish armada.
Nazi aerial bombing: Am I a joke to you?
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Anonymous ID: JRcHpZ1ICanada
7/13/2025, 12:42:57 AM No.510213423
>>510213189
value of seized lithium reserves greatly outweighs that issue
Anonymous ID: KUviZwrvUnited States
7/13/2025, 12:45:24 AM No.510213596
>>510213421
>>The last real threat to you was the spanish armada.
>Nazi aerial bombing: Am I a joke to you?
The Blitz never stood a chance of invading Britain. It was just an attempt to harm British morale.
Portuguese guy is right. The last time Britain faced the prospect of invasion was the Spanish Armada in the 1580s.
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Anonymous ID: x6FkFHuGBrazil
7/13/2025, 12:49:43 AM No.510213938
>>510213421
Yes, nazi bombing was a joke. It even began accidentally. 60% of the damaged property was only in London. The brits overreacted like no one else to being bombed. The brits make a big fuss about having to move children away from London being like the shoah, but that was actually a massive episode of hysteria. They call it the Blitz, just so they feel less bad about being the footnote in WW2 that performed worse than Italy, losing in every front that it fought by itself and giving away Asia to Japan.

Germany never really posed a real chance of invading Britain. It was the anglos who refused to sign a peace deal and decided to continue on in a war that would eventually result in their country being poorer than Slovenia and browner than Argentina 60 years later.
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Anonymous ID: /fpyzA2kIreland
7/13/2025, 12:52:22 AM No.510214160
>>510213596
>The Blitz never stood a chance of invading Britain.
Please stop. British general's after the war even admitted that if the German had of attack instead of waiting, they would have been conquered. I guess the bombing campaign isn't enough of an assault for your dumb ass.
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Anonymous ID: /fpyzA2kIreland
7/13/2025, 12:54:34 AM No.510214328
>>510213938
>Germany never really posed a real chance of invading Britain.
Just stfu. I've read enough.
Anonymous ID: x6FkFHuGBrazil
7/13/2025, 12:55:53 AM No.510214438
>>510214160
British generals are drama queens.

Why not read the sincere stance of the germans admitting to Hitler that their best odd against Britain was 'losing with dignity'? Just read Karl Dรถnitz (chief of the Kriegsmarine) stance on it. He was the reason why Sea Lion was cancelled. There was just no way to defeat Britain, the best they could do was submarine war to try to inconvenience and starve the brits.
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Anonymous ID: IZ72BRfyFinland
7/13/2025, 12:57:11 AM No.510214543
>>510211611
When they nuke Kyiv.
Anonymous ID: KUviZwrvUnited States
7/13/2025, 12:59:38 AM No.510214746
>>510214438
>British generals are drama queens.
Exactly right!
>>510214160
Germany had no way of invading Britain in World War II. Britannia still ruled the waves, and it wasn't even close, in 1940. Only the US, after building up its navy in the early 1940s, could possibly have invaded Britain, but being allies, that never would have happened.
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Anonymous ID: RmvcHwDbJapan
7/13/2025, 12:59:40 AM No.510214748
>>510211977
Iโ€™m not a military guy but based on civilian economics this jump from 2 to 5 is to cover the general price increases.
I doubt anyone os getting โ€œreamedโ€ or stronger.
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Anonymous ID: /fpyzA2kIreland
7/13/2025, 1:01:15 AM No.510214874
>>510214438
>There was just no way to defeat Britain
People said the same thing about the French and Polish before the war and looked at what happened.
Britain was a shadow of itself after ww1. Without the American support, they would have crumbled.
Anonymous ID: nX71RNRJUnited States
7/13/2025, 1:02:11 AM No.510214940
>>510210808 (OP)
nobody wants to invade Russia, they only want to CONTAIN it
because Russia wants to invade everyone else, and has demonstrated this all throughout its history.
Anonymous ID: x6FkFHuGBrazil
7/13/2025, 1:04:54 AM No.510215143
>>510214748
Italy is laughing it off, calling the budget to build a bridge 'military spending' now and openly mocking the USA by doing it. There are too many loopholes.

But I do believe some of the money will be directed to actually arming Europe, anon.

But then again, it does not matter how many tanks and toy Raffale jets Europe has. It just matters the image of being strong, and this program makes Europe look stronger. If they feel that they are strong enough and their opponent is weak enough, they will invade. The optics and perceptions are much more important than the actual tonnage in weapons that they hold. The West's way of waging war after Napoleon has always been taking advantage of the immense amount of weapons that industralization allows to be made, then invading a less industrialized nation. It is cowardly.

One of the reasons why Germany wanted a 1914 war with Russia and joined in with Austria was because Marshal Moltke and the upper military bracket of the empire believed that Russia would be too industrialized and populous to be defeated if they were allowed another decade.

In many ways, they were proven right, considering how massive the soviet military capabilities were.
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Anonymous ID: /fpyzA2kIreland
7/13/2025, 1:05:49 AM No.510215208
>>510214746
>Germany had no way of invading Britain i
Just like the way Germany had no way of invading France. Then they got steam rolled, but I know you'll tell me that's different
>Britannia still ruled the waves
Germany was positioned at the channel. They weren't oceans apart.
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Anonymous ID: qv/Edwx/Germany
7/13/2025, 1:05:58 AM No.510215217
>>510210808 (OP)
>I am not afraid of Russia invading Europe.
Why would a Brazilian monkey care?
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Anonymous ID: KUviZwrvUnited States
7/13/2025, 1:08:55 AM No.510215451
>>510215208
France borders Germany, and Germany in WW2 just executed the old Schlieffen Plan of attacking through Belgium to skirt French defenses.
Britain is an island, and even the small English channel poses a huge barrier against invasion as long as Britain maintains a competent navy. And at the start of WW2, Britain still had, by far, the world's greatest navy.
Germany had no way to invade the island of Britain.
Your continued arguments against this point just tell me you're either a moron or you're not arguing in good faith.
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Anonymous ID: x6FkFHuGBrazil
7/13/2025, 1:09:33 AM No.510215489
>>510215217
They are our allies.

And they used to be your main trading partner. If anything, you should care more. It is not us being driven into a war with the russians.
Anonymous ID: Qm1RSapHGermany
7/13/2025, 1:10:31 AM No.510215565
>>510212891
>You europeans will invade the nanossecond Russia looks vulnerable
there would be nothing to be gained from invading a fucking shithole full of snowniggers
it's way easier to just drive it into bankruptcy and then pick up the few valuable pieces - raw materials and shit - while sending some supplies to keep those snowniggers barely alive...
basic capitalism doesn't need violence
Anonymous ID: VIWh7/z0Russian Federation
7/13/2025, 1:12:47 AM No.510215729
>>510210808 (OP)
>peace can only be achieved if all possible opposing alliances and factions can project enough power that a potential conflict becomes disadvantageous for both
Thats what all the nukes are for
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Anonymous ID: 3LWfRcJHUnited States
7/13/2025, 1:18:18 AM No.510216180
>>510215143
Looking strong is just a passing fad for temperamental Euro politicians. Once Russia is no longer in the headlines and the war is over, they'll gut their militaries for social spending. It's telling that flipflop leftists like Keir are also trying to be the tough military leaders; it's all obviously empty posturing and he doesn't even look like he believes it. Euros were quite frank with their spending in the past decade, they don't see it as valuable and don't care. The US will protect them and military equipment just sits around and who would they even fight? Euros don't fight each other.
Anonymous ID: V9JT3mvcUnited States
7/13/2025, 1:18:38 AM No.510216207
>>510215729
>Thats what all the nukes are for
no one knows what the nukes are really for. Look at the India and Pakistan little war, both have nukes and it didn't prevent them from starting a war. Your little retard pootin wont use nukes even after 3.5 years of not really getting anywhere in Ukraine.
Anonymous ID: V9JT3mvcUnited States
7/13/2025, 1:22:34 AM No.510216497
russia took land from china
russia took land from china
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>>510212891
>You europeans will invade the nanossecond Russia looks vulnerable
you just keep repeating the retarded russian propaganda. No one wants to invade russia, besides China perhaps to take back their clay in the far east.
Anonymous ID: x6FkFHuGBrazil
7/13/2025, 1:27:21 AM No.510216861
>>510215729
Your nukes are not working right now.

The europeans are preparing for war. You need to remind them that nukes still exist. No one has to get hurt, just a public filmed test of a nuke in Siberia. You probably already did this behind closed doors.

You already moved some nukes to Belarus and this worked in 2024 as deterrance, but the europeans are getting too uppity yet.

The world needs a reminder. It won't make you look like the villain, trust me. Your country needs to be respected. That will save lives. Europeans do not care.
Anonymous ID: /fpyzA2kIreland
7/13/2025, 1:28:36 AM No.510216947
>>510215451
>Germany had no way to invade the island of Britain.
The British were so weak that Germans literally stopped fighting with them and focused on Russia. Do you think that 3 million troops that took on the soviet union couldn't have conquered lil Britian?
Anonymous ID: kIp4VC20United Kingdom
7/13/2025, 1:39:47 AM No.510217801
>>510212602
George Kennan explained all this 80 years ago
The only way to have peace with Russia is by a policy of containment - i.e. Russia must be surrounded on all sides by heavily-armed states capable of striking Russia with devastating force if threatened.
This was the situation that existed in Central Europe from 1940s to 1990s and is the ONLY reason the Cold War never turned Hot
(Indeed the most dangerous moments in the Cold War were when USA was ruled by weak presidents who Russians did not respect -- Kennedy in early 60s and Carter in late 70s)
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Anonymous ID: JcljL1weRomania
7/13/2025, 1:40:39 AM No.510217884
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>>510213189
Isn't it funny how mostly turd worlders and zigger refugees in the eu are the ones instigating for european division. They are so jealous of living on a successful, prosperous land.
Anonymous ID: 8oJkiReXUnited States
7/13/2025, 1:46:51 AM No.510218346
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>>510210808 (OP)
Russia is going to just fall apart because Russia is only a fraction of the USSR.
Waging a competent war may become impossible for Russia in the future, and its security going forward just as things are now is in peril.

The best move would be to stop fighting, it is in the Westโ€™s best interest that Russia impales itself.
Anonymous ID: GuV6CXkBPoland
7/13/2025, 1:47:59 AM No.510218426
>>510212891
>You europeans will invade the nanossecond Russia looks vulnerable
Wrong. Its gonna be russians fighting russians the moment the russia is vulnerable. Like now you have russians fighting blue yellow russians.
Real blackpill is the reality of kremlin working with usa deep state to disarm and destroy Russians.
Anonymous ID: x6FkFHuGBrazil
7/13/2025, 1:56:07 AM No.510219020
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>>510217801
I actually believe that the British believe this nonsense of the russian mongolian hordes at the walls and hold it as their international strategy.

I don't know what is in the british tea water (israeli sewage) that makes them have the single worst takes on foreign politics. But if you are correct and this nonsense is what the British actually believe in, man. I must say: your last good foreign relations minister was Castlereagh. Bad takes like these is how you got stuck in two wars with Germany that obliterated your empire for no gain.

You seem to still believe that the bolsheviks will cross the Vistula at any point to export the bolshevik revolution, and that a war in Poland is somehow still your problem.

Let's assume Kennan's stance is correct, and that the entire Eastern Europe that you gave away to Russia (Europe was less independent before WW2 than after, I have no idea why the allies think they won WW2. It was an obvious USSR victory after Germany did european unprovocked preemptive invasion of Russia #16) was actually not a massive buffer zone that the russians set up exactly so they'd not be invaded again, then we come to the conclusion that all of Europe from Germany to Ukraine should simply not exist because they are in no capacity to defend themselves against this raging barbarian at the door โ€” else Britain and the USA and France are willing to always finance these nations endlessly.

Are you really going to infinitely vote in Labour and Tories that for some reason care about the fate of butthurt eastern europeans who regularly still seethe and rage about events that happened in the 1050s?

You desperately need a party in Britain with the wig attitude of being indifferent to continental affairs.
Anonymous ID: qh3mUGLcDenmark
7/13/2025, 1:59:51 AM No.510219273
>macaco noises
I don't really care, my subhuman friend. Turdies are losing the war in Ukraine and the global south will keep doing what its always been doing; eat shit.
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Anonymous ID: x6FkFHuGBrazil
7/13/2025, 2:02:57 AM No.510219480
>>510219273
Denmark and Sweden helped covering up Nordstream2 destruction when the germans tried to investigate it.

You are treacherous scoundrel. We'd never do this to Uruguay, and we hate them.