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Anonymous ID: ojMZaVriIreland
7/13/2025, 1:37:49 PM No.510258643
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There is no word equivalent to the English word "maintenance" in African nigger languages
https://youtu.be/rWVosJ91awM
>“The limits of my language means the limits of my world.” ― Ludwig Wittgenstein
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Anonymous ID: jd62hQ08Spain
7/13/2025, 1:40:51 PM No.510258825
>>510258643 (OP)
>“The limits of my language means the limits of my world.”
kek, there is no better NPC test than this.
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Anonymous ID: pewip8naUnited States
7/13/2025, 1:41:57 PM No.510258899
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Anonymous ID: mIZh63gBSingapore
7/13/2025, 1:42:15 PM No.510258915
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_dictionaries_by_number_of_words
Says here the jeet language has the most words. I dont know man, I don't think language matters much.
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Anonymous ID: e+W9AmgGUnited States
7/13/2025, 1:43:44 PM No.510258999
>>510258643 (OP)
culture is based primarily on language
an underdeveloped language is indicative on an underdeveloped culture

anyone who's not illiterate will easily note that english is one of the most fucktarded bastard languages ever devised, with many loan words from french that have been neutered beyond belief so my dumb fuck brothers and sisters can more easily write and read

the world really ought to use a far older language as a lingua franca
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Anonymous ID: mIZh63gBSingapore
7/13/2025, 1:44:40 PM No.510259053
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>>510258899
Interesting.
Anonymous ID: ojMZaVriIreland
7/13/2025, 1:45:33 PM No.510259102
>>510258899
https://www.indifferentlanguages.com/words/maintenance#region-4
countries he's mentioned are Nigeria, Ghana and indeed Nigerian and Ghanaian are not on the list
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Anonymous ID: PET/tIYGGreece
7/13/2025, 1:45:36 PM No.510259104
>>510258899
Looks like a direct translation from English
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Anonymous ID: mIZh63gBSingapore
7/13/2025, 1:47:00 PM No.510259177
>>510258999
>anyone who's not illiterate will easily note that english is one of the most fucktarded bastard languages ever devised,
The same can be said for any and every language in existence. No language/culture is able to come up with every single thing on its own. Unironically, diversity is our strength. The french learn from the german who learn from the chink who learn from the nip who learn from the anglos etc etc.
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Anonymous ID: ojMZaVriIreland
7/13/2025, 1:48:01 PM No.510259230
>>510259102
>>510258899
he also mentions Lagos and the language is Yoruba, but he's saying the internet translations are wrong, the word does not mean "maintenance" to the niggers there. They don't understand the concept.
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Anonymous ID: 1B3JiDJg
7/13/2025, 1:48:29 PM No.510259262
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Frank Zano’s video makes the bold claim that African cultures lack the concept of “maintenance,” which he links to issues like poor infrastructure and sanitation in cities like Lagos or Accra. While he raises some valid cultural points—such as the prominence of extended family structures in African societies and the contrast with Western nuclear family models—his central argument is flawed.

The idea that African languages do not contain the concept of maintenance is simply not true. Many African languages have clear words for maintenance, repair, and care. In Swahili, there is matengenezo; in Yoruba, itọju; in Igbo, ndozi. The fact that several terms exist doesn’t weaken the argument—it shows that the concept exists, even if it’s expressed differently.

Zano also falsely equates littering or lack of infrastructure with the absence of a cultural idea. Problems like public urination or trash on the streets are more likely due to poor governance, lack of funding, or colonial legacies than any supposed conceptual deficiency. His argument veers dangerously close to cultural essentialism—blaming systemic issues on language and mentality rather than material conditions.

He relies too heavily on a rigid interpretation of the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis, suggesting that if a word doesn’t exist, the idea cannot be understood. This is a widely disputed view in modern linguistics. People can understand and practice complex behaviors even if they don’t have a single word for them.

In short, Zano’s video oversimplifies complex issues with sweeping generalizations. While cultural introspection is important, claiming that African societies lack a concept as basic as maintenance is both inaccurate and unhelpful.
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Anonymous ID: ojMZaVriIreland
7/13/2025, 1:49:07 PM No.510259299
>>510259262
Nigger GPT
Anonymous ID: e+W9AmgGUnited States
7/13/2025, 1:50:27 PM No.510259369
>>510259177
>diversity is our strength
today, a singaporean was a faggot again
choosing the best option will always be strongest, diversify to no avail an be less efficient, because you're slow
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Anonymous ID: pewip8naUnited States
7/13/2025, 1:51:04 PM No.510259402
>>510259102
As far as I can tell Nigerian and Ghanian aren't languages.
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Anonymous ID: e+W9AmgGUnited States
7/13/2025, 1:51:50 PM No.510259440
also, adoption of things or practices isn't diversity you double nigger
i fucking hate stupid people so much
Anonymous ID: IeOJx71MPuerto Rico
7/13/2025, 1:53:12 PM No.510259513
>>510259262
amazing story, so why can't they maintain anything?
Anonymous ID: RUwvSmanUnited States
7/13/2025, 1:53:15 PM No.510259516
>>510258643 (OP)
would never own a vehicle owned by a nigger. i avoid common nigger vehicles by only driving pickup trucks
Anonymous ID: C0GZ0q0mUnited Kingdom
7/13/2025, 1:53:39 PM No.510259534
>>510258643 (OP)
Understanding the concept of maintenance requires understanding time and cycles. It requires forward planning.
We know africans are incapable of this. The fact they can't farm is proof.
Anonymous ID: bK34krhxIsrael
7/13/2025, 1:53:49 PM No.510259544
>>510259230
If niggers don't understand the concept of time, decay is far reach
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Anonymous ID: 0+MaisHAUnited States
7/13/2025, 1:54:02 PM No.510259556
>>510258643 (OP)
Luckily they all speak like 3 languages, one of which is always European.
Anonymous ID: yt1TPOyaPoland
7/13/2025, 1:57:41 PM No.510259757
>>510259402
>As far as I can tell Nigerian and Ghanian aren't languages.
that's because Nigerians speak 500+ tribal dialects
and three main tribal languages: Hausa, Yoruba and Ibgo
plus English
and pidgin English
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Anonymous ID: NpmW9uE6United States
7/13/2025, 1:58:53 PM No.510259822
>>510259262
>claiming that African societies lack a concept as basic as maintenance is both inaccurate and unhelpful.
how may I be helpful then? Since its the white mans burden to assist the negro
Anonymous ID: ExsfZ5TbBelgium
7/13/2025, 1:59:14 PM No.510259839
>>510258825
is is true for all languages
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Anonymous ID: yt1TPOyaPoland
7/13/2025, 1:59:34 PM No.510259859
>>510259104
>Looks like a direct translation from English
it's a loanword written in a way that represents the target language's spelling
Anonymous ID: mIZh63gBSingapore
7/13/2025, 2:01:24 PM No.510259974
>>510259369
Are you actually daft or is this bait? With your flag im inclined to believe the former.
Anonymous ID: pewip8naUnited States
7/13/2025, 2:02:24 PM No.510260024
>>510259757
There are dialects of many languages but that doesn't preclude the use of the term language.
I accept that the distinction is arbitrary but that doesn't mean you can simply invent a language where none has been recognized before.
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Anonymous ID: ZOFmYICwGreece
7/13/2025, 2:02:46 PM No.510260045
>>510258643 (OP)
I really like this man, he speaks very well.
Anonymous ID: yt1TPOyaPoland
7/13/2025, 2:05:25 PM No.510260220
>>510260024
what I meant was there is no single Nigerian language because the country of Nigeria was relatively recently established across different tribes who already spoke languages
same probably goes for Ghana
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Anonymous ID: 4JC5MxrwRomania
7/13/2025, 2:06:16 PM No.510260264
>>510258643 (OP)
Romanians don't have the word "cope"
This is why they cope like crazy and you can't point it out without speaking in Romglish which is looked down upon.
And it's literally impossible to explain what cope means to idiots that don't know English.
Anonymous ID: qj6JA1UiUnited States
7/13/2025, 2:06:18 PM No.510260267
>>510258915
>50 words for shit
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Anonymous ID: mIZh63gBSingapore
7/13/2025, 2:06:26 PM No.510260278
>>510260220
>there is no single Nigerian language
Yeah and theres no single italian language.
Anonymous ID: yt1TPOyaPoland
7/13/2025, 2:06:40 PM No.510260290
>>510259262
>or colonial legacies
ding ding
>evil white man made me piss in the street
ding ding
nigger
Anonymous ID: DPmIh4DtRomania
7/13/2025, 2:07:15 PM No.510260316
>>510258643 (OP)
>Niggers who lived in mud huts don't have a word for maintenance
No shit
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Anonymous ID: 4JC5MxrwRomania
7/13/2025, 2:08:16 PM No.510260375
>>510260316
Romaniggers who need to cope 24/7 with their miserable lives don't have a word for cope. Literal African tier shithole.
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Anonymous ID: mIZh63gBSingapore
7/13/2025, 2:08:33 PM No.510260388
>>510260267
Actually far better than English since it only has like 5 or 10 words for shit. Poo, poop, feces, excrement, crap, waste, stool, dung, droppings, turd, dump, log.
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Anonymous ID: mIZh63gBSingapore
7/13/2025, 2:09:22 PM No.510260430
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>>510260316
Mud huts aren't very durable and you probably need to add new mud to it every once in a while.
Anonymous ID: pewip8naUnited States
7/13/2025, 2:09:47 PM No.510260456
>>510260220
I don't believe that the reason there is no recognized Nigerian or Ghanian language is that the dialects are too similar to have been yet recognized as being similar enough to be the same language.
Anonymous ID: 8ufz/RrASouth Africa
7/13/2025, 2:17:05 PM No.510260865
>>510259544
Checked. Their languages are inferior. From memory, Zulu was the only academically accepted Nguni language in South Africa. That's because they borrowed the most.

Most words are just borrowed from English or Afrikaans. Bread (brood in Afrikaans) becomes boroto, petrol becomes ipetroli. Same with fruits and electronics.
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Anonymous ID: DPmIh4DtRomania
7/13/2025, 2:20:02 PM No.510261023
>>510260375
Kek
You mad lil rat you still have to speak my language like a lil bitch
Anonymous ID: qj6JA1UiUnited States
7/13/2025, 2:20:54 PM No.510261079
>>510260388
the joke is that finns have 50 words for snow
Anonymous ID: jd62hQ08Spain
7/13/2025, 2:21:54 PM No.510261134
>>510259839
>didn't pass the NPC filter
Anonymous ID: 7Zm2jCR8United States
7/13/2025, 2:26:38 PM No.510261370
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>>510258643 (OP)
This is a misnomer. American niggers know the word maintenance, they just don’t do it.
Anonymous ID: dR38E4Lr
7/13/2025, 2:48:08 PM No.510262545
>>510258643 (OP)
1. Pre-colonial African languages were contextual, not abstract

Most African languages before colonization:

Were oral, not written
Were context-rich, with meanings shaped by social use rather than fixed definitions
Often lacked standalone abstract nouns like “maintenance” or “progress” — but they absolutely expressed the ideas behind them

So while you might not find a precolonial Bantu word that literally maps to “maintenance,” you would hear verbs, phrases, and proverbs that express:

Taking care of tools (e.g. sharpening blades)

Keeping a homestead clean
Sustaining relationships
Honoring traditions (which itself is a form of cultural “maintenance”)

These were acts, not abstract nouns.

2. Lack of a word ≠ lack of the concept

Just because no single word existed doesn’t mean the idea wasn’t there. For example:

Concept Pre-colonial Expression

Tool maintenance “Sharpen the hoe before the sun rises” (proverb)
House upkeep Specific verbs like “to patch the thatch,” “to sweep the compound”
Relationship maintenance Rituals, kinship duties, oral rules

People clearly understood the importance of ongoing care — but they didn't always create a generalized abstract term like "maintenance" to describe all those different types.

3. Colonialism introduced abstraction & formal categorization

European colonial influence brought:

Bureaucracy
Infrastructure systems (roads, railways, offices)
Technical maintenance of machinery
Written contracts and codified rules

And with that came the need to invent or borrow words like:

"maintenance"
"administration"
"development"
"system"

4. Example — Swahili (pre- vs post-colonial)

Pre-colonial Swahili: more focused on action-oriented expressions, like kutunza (to care for) or kurekebisha (to fix)

Post-colonial Swahili: adopts "matengenezo" as the noun for “maintenance,” often used in tech or infrastructure contexts


Same story for Yoruba, Zulu, Hausa, and many others.
Anonymous ID: bK34krhxIsrael
7/13/2025, 3:10:29 PM No.510263885
>>510260865
Jesus, they didn't have a word for bread?
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Anonymous ID: 8ufz/RrASouth Africa
7/13/2025, 3:40:30 PM No.510265920
>>510263885
>Yes, Europeans did introduce **wheat-based bread** to the Nguni peoples, but the story has layers worth chewing on .

Before European contact, Nguni communities—like the Zulu, Xhosa, and Swazi—primarily consumed indigenous grains such as **sorghum and millet**, which were ground into flour for porridge and traditional beer.

They had beer before bread. Yet the world forced us to live with them.
Anonymous ID: aHjxBDSuIndia
7/13/2025, 4:04:49 PM No.510267604
>>510258915
thats not accurate because its made on dictionaries. Oxford pocket dictionary doesnt have as many words as full oxford dictionary
Anonymous ID: 0rSoYSK8Denmark
7/13/2025, 4:07:07 PM No.510267763
>>510258643 (OP)
>>“The limits of my language means the limits of my world.” ― Ludwig Wittgenstein
Internal monologue fags btfo.
Anonymous ID: UaQtCeykUnited States
7/13/2025, 4:15:43 PM No.510268379
>>510258643 (OP)
a lot of them don't have a future tense