What's your experience of living in a commieblock?

>>510265091 (OP)
cockroach everywhere
noise pollution 24/7
mentally fucked cunts everywhere

i do not recommend

>>510265091 (OP)
unironically sovl

>>510265091 (OP)
imagine the worst people you see stumbling around the street, then put them in a high rise together, mix in alcohol and hard drugs.
kowloon walled city was infinitely more based

>>510265933
At least commie blockizens weren’t as destructive as blacks. They ran this place into the ground after less than 5 years and literally the reason you can’t have cheap rent in America. Blacks will destroy it.

There are a bunch of sociologists who have spent their careers making up excuses for its failure, but they are all wrong because none of them want to admit blacks are just fucking violent monkeys that can (barely) talk

https://x.com/markjcarney/status/1909631664420274633

>>510266214
Pic rel

>>510265898
Are all of the services like within the innereds of the block and don't act like we don't have commie blocks in America. We call them project buildings.
"The projects"
>>510265933
This is an over compensation and was needed to be broken into different spaces and separated out more. I wouldn't mind one of those other Chinese style commie blocks with the windows everywhere though

>>510265091 (OP)
Comfy, the black mold wasn't ideal though.
See the flat roofs, that leads to moisture coming in.

>>510265091 (OP)
Is not bad. It's very green outside. I can't hear the neighbors and I don't have to turn on the radiator in winter.

>>510265091 (OP)
pretty cool actually, lots of sex

Sewage leakages from upstairs neighbors

>>510265933
>Kowloon
They invented chasing heroin off foil. More based than based if you ask me.

>>510266413
LOL BASED. GOTTA LOVE THE KIKE WHO CAME UP WITH STACKABLE GOYBOXES FOR INDUSTRIAL AREAS, LOL

>>510265933
Not necessarily. It depends on the area where it is located and the state of the building itself, how it is maintained by the city and so on. I lived in a relatively new apartment block, it was fine.

>>510266397
so my neighbor was a single mom who used to sell avon, and she knew my wife timings when my wife dropped the kids at school, and she came to knock on my door to show me her catalogue, and she was pretty hawt, so I let her in and sat together rubbing each others arm and I just kissed her. we fucked and she left but left the catalogues on the table, and my wife asked about them.
>who left you those catalogues?
>our neighbor, Maria
>why did she come when I was not home?
>I don't know
fuck

noise pollution is out of control. Random chemical smells wafting into the commieblock from nearby factories producing god knows what cancerous emissions from their smokestacks. Sounds of young russian couples fucking at all times of the day and screams from both men and women involved in domestic battery. Everyone is poor and never smiles. A sense of dread and doom pervades the commieblock.

The commieblock hate here is completely manufactured by the fear of jews for the truth getting out about how really cheaply you can make okay-tier housing.

They want you to expect to go into 30-year debt with a middle-class wage to afford an apartment that has as shit sound insulation as a commieblock.

>>510265898
In these buildings often they have schools, shops, bars and all that stuff. Lots of greenery and trees around it

>>510266905
I am in California we just had a fire. Housing is closing 600-700 per square foot to build right now.

>commieblock
It's such a retardedly vague non-word. Stalinist buildings with 3-feet thick walls and private yards are "commieblocks", the infamous Kruschevkas are "commieblocks", classic plattenbaus of the 70s are "commieblocks", brick and cinderblock Perestroika projects are "commieblocks". All of them are substantially different in quality and feel.

Ex-Yu commie blocks were and are quite comfy. It’s too bad they don’t get the maintenance that they should have.

>>510267374
It's a nonsense am*rimutt term

I absolutely hate it and sadly cursed to live in one until my dying breath.
These poorly made deathtraps are a nightmare to live in, costing an arm and leg just to keep habitable. The apartments are so tiny, there isn't even enough room for a small personal space. You can barely even move in them once furnished.

>>510267374
IT MEANS WHAT MAJORITY IS. A PANELKA.

>>510265091 (OP)
It's the neighbors
Would be fine otherwise

>>510265091 (OP)
I’m American so the closest thing to a commie block I lived in was a high rise in Hawaii. They had a parking structure next to the building to park there was roaches I had a good view of a golf course. I don’t think I cant really compare it to a commieblock though it was actually some pretty nice living. Also everyone on that island is an alcoholic or meth head.

>>510265091 (OP)
Commiesblocks aren't necessarily bad. It's just a faster way of erecting buildings.

>>510267027
That's still okay (not okay at all) in comparison with Europe, where the wages are 1/2 or 1/3 of what you earn and the price per m2 is 5-6k.

Most of eastern euro commieblock haters live in one. The irony is lost in them when the regimes they seem to hate so much have provided them housing, while the housing capitalism offers is completely unaffordable to own.

>>510268245
>while the housing capitalism offers is completely unaffordable to own.
It's true. Average starter home in the USA is at least 7M these days.
Post pics of your "free" house with timestamp

>>510265091 (OP)
Commieblocks should be cheap when they're built here in the UK, but instead they cost as much as a house does to run with 1/8th of the space; all it takes to make it a dystopia is for the electricity to stop working, then the lift doesn't work and nor does the electric pump lifting water to your floor. You get a lovely view of a construction site, all the walls have noise blaring through 24/7, your neighbours are likely scum of the earth stacked below and above you in all directions.

The great tragedy of Grenfell is that it didn't burn the whole of London down with it, because then it could be rebuilt but better. Instead the event has become a reparation to black people living off the state and sponging up supplies before burning it down because they don't know any better than to destroy everything they touch.

>>510267942
THE PEARL
number two

A sad combination of collective neglect and lack of community. Largely caused by large number of temporary inhabitants, many renters or new problem people due to original owners moving to better housing. Everything is best defined by attitude of
> NOT MY PROBLEM
> only emergency repairs pass as they're mandatory
> nobody pays for maintenance repairs or improvements
> very few long term inhabitants
> temporary neighbors often rude, sketchy or even entitled
> loud music, arguments, smoking & leaving trash inside and out
> many strays, hobos, often claiming to be new inhabitants or visiting
> everything's abused, nothing gets reported or renovated ( "im renting, why pay?" )
> minimum parking space, lack of proper parking nearby
> syringes, bottles, piss, burned plastic railings, buttons, smashed glasses
> dicks and obscenities in Cyrillic painted everywhere
> half the lights are smashed or burned out
> all greenery gets vandalized
A real treat.

From what I've seen the comfy granny block many people imagine happens only in countryside or in smaller, separated houses that were often a part of specific enterprise with intellectual demographic - e.g. for a scientific institute, some unique school, a medical institution. The rows and rows of NPC proletarian housing are cancer and getting out of them is one of best things somebody can do.

i lived for 10 years in a commieblock and i never met my neighbors
i just knew their faces but nothing else about them, not even their surname, didn't even wish them a good day, never ever did we talk to each other either

and i actually loved it

>>510265898
That's complete bullshit!

>free
It's the most expensive type of home to maintain and the housing association mafia fleeces everyone
>made with eternal concrete
It's made out of thin sheet panels and shitty chink-tier concrete mix, causing the concrete to fall out and the panels slide on each other, creating huge cracks running through the building and letting water in. In some commieblocks they even cheaped out on the concrete and used fucking sand as filling between the pieces.
>can reach all service with walk
And you best be fucking walking, because there is no space anywhere to store a bicycle, let alone car! You're forced to live your life in a small walkable circle, unless you pay exorbitant fees for public transport. Thank god for home delivery services, but those jobs are equally awful.
>monoethnic
Gypsies. There are ALWAYS gypsies.
>strong sense of community
No, unless you mean a bunch of mumbling senile retarded retirees making up the stupidest gossips and throwing hissy fits over everything, blocking any initiative because "b-but I did have breakfast this morning!"

Most commieblocks are also health hazards, due to the radioactive and carcinogenic materials used in their constructions.

>>510268245
>The irony is lost in them when the regimes they seem to hate so much have provided them housing, while the housing capitalism offers is completely unaffordable to own.
Our countries were fucking bombed into the stone age, destroying the existing townhouses and infrastructure, leaving millions homeless. They didn't even allow renovating the old buildings that managed to stand, because they were a symbols of the bourgeois or some stupid shit.
Capitalism at least lets you to have your own garden if you want one and doesn't force you to live like sardines..

>>510267374
>>510267433
For Americans there is no difference, any kind of multifamily residential building is a "commieblock"

UNLESS it is located in America, then it is a condo (and obviously an amazing place to live that costs 3 million USD per unit)

>>510265091 (OP)
I don’t necessarily want to live in a commie block, but I also don’t really like living in my oversized overpriced inconveniently located american house. But since segregation is illegal, if you want to live somewhere peaceful and high trust and white, it ends up being expensive. Not because we want or need 4000ft3 houses but because we have to spend enough to price out niggers and mexicans. I would love low cost homogeneous housing that is located in the city.

I've been lucky to have very good neighbors for most of my life. It's been comfy.
It's only recently that a young family with a spoiled asshole kid moved in that I started hating the commie block. That fucking kid, God damn him and his stupid friends with their bicycles.
Wish I could make them move away.

>>510269631
how much do you pay per month just for "maintenance" in Hungary?

I pay almost 200eur here for a 60sqm apartment, it covers (actual) maintenance fee, cleaning, electricity for common parts, water in my apartment, underground parking. Electricity in my flat is paid separately (30e/month)

>>510269631
>Gypsies. There are ALWAYS gypsies.
That's only a Balkan thing tho. Commieblocks aren't associated with Gypsies in north-eastern Europe. Actually commieblocks are kind of "lower middle class" housing, while the few Gypsies we have usually live in their own small neighborhoods in self-made huts.

>>510265091 (OP)
Brick commieblocks built from Brezhnev era till the late 00s are unironically one the the best types of housing humanity ever made.
Cheap, reliable, highly efficent floor plans, lots of green trees around (mandatory by Soviet urban planning), also you can just walk to all necessary stores and shops in like 10 minutes. The only complanits I have - small bathrooms and lack of frieght elevator, both are are fixed in post-Soviet versions. There is also wear and tear, but who cares.
Moden monolithic buildings cant even compete. I've shopped for a couple of years looking to buy myself a nice flat in a modern building, and they all are utter shit. Demonic soul prisons built to farm gavvah from goyim. The only few I've liked are in buisuness-class skyscrapers, but I'm too poor for that shit, and their floor plans are a bit goofy.
For me it's basically: Stalin era nomenclature houses > 00s commieblocks > Medvedev era business-class skyscrapers > 80s commieblocks> shit > piss > moden monolithic houses. That's it, thanks for coming to my TED talk.

>>510270055
lack of parking space is a serious problem for older commieblocks too

>>510269864
>underground parking
U sure it's an actual commie block and not some 90s project? Because soviets planned parking only for 10 nomenclature cars, but any vacant space would be part of building and free to use for anyone.

OTOH lately we've been trying to establish some parking rules so people from other buildings couldn't leave their cars here. Nobody want's to pay for road signs and permits though.

>>510266335
And as you know, the projects largely don’t exist anymore, because niggers made them untenable. That’s why we cannot have commieblocks. Niggers would ruin it. If we were all white, with some Asians and spics sprinkled in, it could work.

>>510270281
>U sure it's an actual commie block and not some 90s project?
yes, it's from 00s but well, it's obvious that "commieblock" in this board means just all types of residential housing

>>510268648
What the fuck is that house? The left part is just one floor with three levels? Please tell me it's AI generated.

>>510270217
I don't even have a DL, so it's a plus for me.
Can't stand noise and pollution from cars.
Also in my commieblock there is an undeground parking, but it's prerty rare thing among them.

>>510265732
Do you lived in a gypsy ghetto after the fall of USSR?

>>510265091 (OP)
I can't compare, because i've never lived in anything other than 80s and 2000s commie block. Got lucky to always be in decent neighborhoods and with sensible neighbors. Like I have a fully livable dacha with water and internet, but I can't imagine actually living there with all the animals and insects and driving 90 minutes+ to work in a city. Also it's probably a bitch to live in winter in wooden house without central heating, just stoves.

>>510270453
A defining part of soviet projects was their minimalism. They planned for the most efficient, compacts apartments with minimum necessary amenities to support living. The idea was that most of them would be temporary and after achieving communism people could get proper apartments or family houses according to their needs.

There were few "special" projects that e.g. accounted for disabled mobility, included artist studios in top floors or had foyer with concierge. But all mass built housing would include only the bare minimum or not even that - because why do you need proper ventilation when windows leak like sieve and heating with gas is virtually free.

I'd make the best of it like I always do until my boundaries are violated then basically die i guess..idk lol lmao

>>510271154
>The idea was that most of them would be temporary and after achieving communism people could get proper apartments or family houses according to their needs.
I don't think it was really the idea, anon. Even in these agitprop videos from the 60s/70s, they presented these commieblocks as the epitome of technological progress and heaven for the working class, not as temporary housing only for a while until we achieve communism

>>510269631
Commieblocks were built primarily for the urbanisation of socialist countries. The vast majority of demand came from country bumpkins moving into the cities to perform more productive work.

The cost to build commieblocks per m2 was vastly more efficient than renovating old jew townhouses. Ironically, again, commies were more pragmatic than modern capitalists that shovel money into pretty facades of buildings so they can be turned into air-BnBs for tourists instead of being residences for productive natives.

>>510271312
>The cost to build commieblocks per m2 was vastly more efficient than renovating old jew townhouses

but funnily enough, it caused a situation (at least here) so we have rotting, half-abandoned pre-WW2 buildings in the city centres, often inhabited by junkies or welfare recipients, even though these houses are in the best location (very centre of the city) and have beautiful architecture, while actual middle class lives in ugly commieblocks in the outer suburbs. It's completely the opposite to what it looks like in the west, where the richest people live in 19th century housing in city centre (that is obviously well maintained and renovated).

>>510271580
You must live in 3rd rate cities. City centre apartments even in EE have a huge price premium even if their foundations threaten to collapse in the next more serious earthquake.

>>510269864
>how much do you pay per month just for "maintenance" in Hungary?
Depends. A lot.

For the monthly running of maintenance, cleaning, electricity for corridors & elevators, trash disposal and warm water / heating for corridors it's around 70€ at minimum. But that's on a constant deficit spending, while the building is losing money, so the real number should be around 100€. Trash disposal is not reliable and regularly spikes the cost with congestion in the tubes.
I also don't heat at all and use very little warm water, which keeps my expenses low. Heating your home can add 100€ on average and that's also paid to the housing association.
It's a hot mess, since the real costs are obfuscated by the housing association and everyone gets a personalized bill that's difficult to compare and is not itemized. It's also important to note that I have a tiny 38sqm unit, which I pay less for.

Maintaining my own unit another matter. I regularly spend hundreds of euros every year and weeks of my own time to fix leaks, cracks, broken utilities, electric wiring, windows, floors, the toilet and all manners of bullshit imaginable. I hate how I'm not allowed to touch the utilities running through my walls (in reality outside of it), even though they are obviously leaking and molding.

>>510269973
I guess Hungary is the Balkans then. Gypsies were unalienable from commieblocks. Even if there are less of them, even a single gypsy family can fuck up the finances of the building.
Particularly they spiked our trash expenses and we even have to pay for recovering the security camera footage whenever the cops come over. Not to mention the constant complaints and noise pollution they cause.

>>510271791
nah dude, even big cities are like that here
it's impossible to do anything because they serve as "social housing" and due to our laws you cannot just evict their tenants without providing them an equivalent place to live (that would cost millions), but since they don't pay almost anything for maintenance, the city (the houses formally belong to) cannot afford to renovate them so they are just slowly rotting

there is also yet another specifically Polish problem but im not going to delve into that

>>510265898
I dunno about mutt homes but the right side of your pic is pure bs

>>510265091 (OP)
Cold.

it's great, i love hearing my neighbor take a shit

>>510265091 (OP)
its probably better than living among africans

>>510269427
Is this only in Riga?

>>510272363
Latvia doesn't have any more cities

>>510272342
How do you deal with that, earplugs or just tuning it out?

I used to live in a commieblock style apartment and it drove me crazy, mostly because there were blacks and schizos living adjacent to my room.

also a friend in Remmash, Russia sends me pictures of her commieblock. Keep in mind Remmash is a village. Ridiculously dirt poor. In winter it looks like hell.. a mix of mud and snow and slush and random trash everywhere. She had to learn how to fix pipes since they only come to fix things if some massive catastrophe happens. God forbid it gets above freezing for one day in January, then the snow melts and the streets are liquid mud. There are drunks all over. Her mom receives a $150 pension per month and can never see a doctor. Outside of Moscow and St. Petersburg Russia looks pretty damn rough and a hard life.

>>510272737
just marry her and bring her to the states, she will be grateful to you and will never cheat on you and you will get a tradwife and many children

>>510272567
Ventspils and Liepaja are pretty big places no?

Just weird to think that stuff like parking would be an issue in Latvia, no offence.

>>510265091 (OP)
>live ina commieblock
>feel depressed
>want to kill myself
>need 12 story building for it to work
>all commieblocks are 5
>tfw

>>510272737
How did you meet her?

Depends entirely on who else is living in the commieblock with you. If your neighbors are decent people, and the rent is cheap, it’s great.

>>510272935
>Ventspils and Liepaja are pretty big places no?
~50k cities are big to you?
not to mention it's probably only on paper, in reality half of their population, especially young people, live either in Riga or in the UK/Scandinavia

>>510273001
Do you live in a city at least?

>>510273001
my uncle lives at 13th floor and I already chose it as the place to jump from if i decide to quit this world

Have any Slavbros seen a movie called The Fool (2014)?

It's about a commiebloc

>>510273492
Dredd (2012)

>>510265091 (OP)
very comfy. communists didn't care about property values so they made large parks, schools and kindergartens between blocks. also blocks were built by state owned companies and were designed as a housing projects, which made them infinitely more tidy and thought through than later capitalist stuff built on individual basis.

current housing projects are one building next to another because property prices are so high nobody is retarded to throw away millions by leaving empty spaces, and modern buyers don't give a fuck about anything but a location (geographical distance to whatever is labeled center)

>>510271312
>Commieblocks were built primarily for the urbanisation of socialist countries.
You mean forceful and unreasonable relocation with the aim of creating inefficient heavy industries, while simultaneously fucking with food producing farmers and causing shortages?
Sure, but they were also used all over EE as a solution to the post-war housing crisis caused by the devastation, doubling up as a measure for ideological erasure of pre-soviet times and aiding collectivization.

>The cost to build commieblocks per m2 was vastly more efficient than renovating old jew townhouses.
Debatable, but herein lies the trap. Maintaining them turned out to be far more expensive per m2.

>commies were more pragmatic than modern capitalists that shovel money into pretty facades
Anon, commies were no less obsessed with facades flaunting the greatness of communism, while pushing the average soviet citizen into ever deeper destitution.

>>510272079
My commieblock is from the 70's though. It shouldn't be in such a bad state, but the building practices were truly atrocious.

>>510272935
>Ventspils and Liepaja are pretty big places no?
Small towns.

>>510273781
>communists didn't care about property values so they made large parks, schools and kindergartens between blocks

Never thought of it like this, pretty based. How protected are these areas though? Let's say someone wanted to build another commie block or something in the middle instead, is the land protected?

>>510265091 (OP)
pretty comfy tbqhfampai

>>510267374
>>510269683

The idea is that you build something upwards made of a bland, almost completely sterile, very unaesthetic concrete structure that is sort of like a lego building.
You can see things like this in America in NY for instance, but that's just a realized byproduct of confined infrastructure opportunities, if that makes sense. Not exactly bland in the earlier sense.
Of course this omits the early 1900s 'constructivist' soviet union era, and to some extent the nicer aesthetics of the Stalinist era.
That said, and I'm sure you might agree, the Brutalist aesthetic we see today still retains some of the Stalinist-era rectangular prism build ideas.
Albeit heavily modified from the original grandiosity as well as the playfulness of the earlier 1900s, and definitely the 1700/1800 baroque influence.


>t. i personally like architecture as an artistic capacity


>>510267433 this is a bit true compared to most, sadly

>>510273959
>Let's say someone wanted to build another commie block or something in the middle instead, is the land protected?

at least in Poland it looks like that so the "association of homeowners" in the commieblock doesn't only own the land under the commieblock but also some piece of land around the commieblock so unless the homeowners decide to sell it, no one can build anything there
sometimes it happens that they sell that and indeed you see new blocks put inbetween 2 older commieblocks but it's rather rare because people usually don't want to sell their land if they know it will radically worsen their quality of life as they will get a new building right in front of their windows

>>510273959
well during the poor years it happened from time to time for someone to build some shack or even a building somewhere, but it never got legalised, and when economy got little better it all got torn down, nowadays it's basically impossible to do something like that.

the problem is in fact opposite, some of the private land that was never used and got some trees or grass on it was appropriated in public mind as parks, so there were protests when the owner was changed and wanted to build something, so city had to buy him out and leave it as it is

>>510265898
>Strong sense of community
Retarded sheltered tankie take.
The opposite is true.
There isn't a surer way to make people resentful towards each other than to cram everyone in a tight space while making them hear each others farts, poops, fucks and yawns.
Good fences make good neighbors.

i will never understand why the concept of commieblocks took off exactly in russia, a country with the biggest unoccupied landmass in the world
i can understand that in japan or china but in russia everyone should live in a huge house with 10k sqm yard around it

>>510274710
Because 90% of Russia is uninhabitable and most people want to live in a city with amenities. You're more than welcome to move out to the tundra. They'd probably pay you to.

>>510274710
simple - infrastructure. good luck building road, sewer, water and electric lines to each retard living 10km from each other

>>510272342
Wait until he is taking a drunken shit, breaking the toilet and flooding the apartment below with shit & vomit smelling of booze!
Happened in my building once, thankfully I was one floor away.

>>510272571
I don't even hear my neighbors from all the the car traffic, lol. At night closing my windows and blasting my own noise is usually enough, but sucks during the summer.
Blacks or arabs though, I doubt I could handle. You're fucked.

>>510272737
East of the Urals are a bit nicer, but that's little consolation for her.

When explosive shits hit, there is advantage to sharing a restroom

>>510274817
>and most people want to live in a city with amenities
okay but still the question is why there aren't vast suburban areas around Moscow like it is around NYC

>>510265091 (OP)
>What's your experience of living in a commieblock?
it was okay but I was a single kid and had my own room
also I didn't know any better so shit was normal
pic related

>>510266777
Lucky.
My wife is seeing a old Jewish man, who doesn't seem interested in supporting her.

>>510275103
comfy, i love it

>>510266777
reads like a telenovela episode script

>>510265091 (OP)
Mold
Cigarette smell
Plumbing issues
The actual urban layout was great though, very quiet and green but I don't like some of the "encouragements" used to get people to go outside

>>510274359
Thanks for explaining

>>510265091 (OP)
it's pretty based if there's only old people and normal families around
but 1 shitty neighbour can fuck it up

>>510267374
I recall the big tall ones being called Brezhnievkas though not everyone here knew these terms, my family just called them bloki komunalne or regular old mieszkania
>>510269683
>UNLESS it is located in America, then it is a condo
I lived in Chicago and we called them projects

>>510265091 (OP)
Very bad at the moment because of loud alcoholic neighbors who sleep during the day and drink every night, they cannot talk normally, they constantly scream, called the police countless times but they dont give a shit, last time they drew dicks with a spraypaint on my door for calling the cops, and they threatened to kill me and are now louder than ever as a revenge.
I had to quit my old job because of how exhausted i was from not sleeping.
Im seriously having murder suicide fantasies because of them.
I swear i might snap one day and pour gasoline under their door than lock it somehow than burn them alive and kill myself after.
So yeah, commie blocks can be nice thou, if i had normal neighbours it would be comfy.

>>510274906
I couldn't handle the traffic noise. Lived in a city centre once overlooking a busy road, think it gave me some sort of PTSD because car noises now cause heart palpitations.

Do you think your own noise causes disturbance to your neighbours?

It just seems wrong to me on a basic level to force anybody to live somewhere where they cannot easily achieve silence if they desire it.

>>510275400
yeah, guess it goes well with an oppressive regimes, it gets more and more nightmarish as a society goes towards individualism, you're bound to have at least few retards in a building of that size

>>510275103
these are probably the most expensive commieblocks in Poland due to their premium location
I know a person from OŻZB, prices can easily hit 5k eur/sqm there

Do more people in Poland etc live further away from the city now and commute in by car?

Since Poland's economy seems to have improved, I would assume people are choosing to live on a patch of land in a detached house and driving since they can now afford a car.

>>510276636
no we don't have niggers

>>510276785
What do you mean?

>>510275962
last I checked my old apartment was worth about 700k cebul but that was 5+ years ago
it's 48sqm only though
that would be just under 15k cebul/sqm
which works out to 3500 euro/sqm
maybe more today who knows

>>510276636
yes, people who can, move to the burbs and buy houses there
living in a commieblock is nice when you're poor or a student, which is another way of saying poor
or if you're a corporate "career" drone and only need a place to sleep
same as anywhere else in the world

>>510275011
>>510274710
Commieblocks were also tools for creating the new soviet man. Living a simple austere mortal life, with his mind filled with the richness of communist thought. They acted as equalizers of wealth, making everyone miserable.
Producing commieblocks was also cheap and intended to be cheap. And everyone raced to make them even cheaper, usually by skimping on materials.

With blocks you could easily and quickly build up high density compact habitats around resources like mines or oil wells (as well as black sites). Resource exploitation was another thing Russia always struggled with, since their resources are all in remote places.

>>510275511
Regular traffic becomes white noise after a while. Sirens though, make me lose my mind. Same with trams, I hated living near them.

>Do you think your own noise causes disturbance to your neighbours?
Surely, if they are sitting near the walls or sleeping next to the outlets. Theoretically, it's possible to arrange the room so you're not immediately next to your neighbour's room or the radiators. Radiators transmit everything in a 5 floor vicinity.
Although there is definitely noise, generally it's not that bad like constantly blasting music or shouting matches. Usually it's the TV, speech or creaking furniture, that you can outnoise without disturbing their own noise. I hope it makes sense.

>It just seems wrong to me on a basic level to force anybody to live somewhere where they cannot easily achieve silence if they desire it.
Yes, it's absolutely wrong. That's why I hate commieblocks or large cities for that matter.

One advice I can give you, is to try soundproof acoustic foam if you have the wallspace. Unfortunately I don't, but even a single tile can make a noticeable difference. Not sure about blocking outside noise, but should be better than nothing.

>>510265898
>free ( 70 years working )

>>510277195
>Same with trams, I hated living near them.
old commie trams wailed like dying banshees
modern trams are like stealthy ninjas in comparison

>>510275475
cut off their electricity, smear their door with feces, and turn on the music

>>510265091 (OP)
I hate how the walls are like paper despite being solid concrete. But luckily 95% of my neighbors are half deaf grannies so I haven't had a noise complaint despite playing guitar or music on my stereo at 3 in the morning in the middle of week.

>>510277195
>Producing commieblocks was also cheap and intended to be cheap. And everyone raced to make them even cheaper, usually by skimping on materials.
that's relative, here, everything was basically armed concrete, you can see in ukraine what beating those buildings can endure, sure it wasn't some great architecture or interior decoration, but it wasn't something the first wind/storm/earthquake can wipe out, they're standing 70years later

>>510277735
>was basically armed concrete
why is everything about war with you guys
it's reinforced concrete btw and that was a joke

>>510277413
Those old banshees are still used in some lines, like babushkas who refuse to die.
The rails also received noise cancelling rubber padding in some places, usually around the stops. Can't say they made that big of a difference, but I no longer live in a city with trams.

>>510277423
We have cameras. I was thinking of smearing their door handle with fucking rabbies or some fucked up pathogen that would just kill them if they touch it honestly, carfentanyl or something idk.
Im really at that point where im seriously considering this stuff.

>>510277816
Here it's called "armiran beton" so he probably thought it is the same in other languages. It has nothing to do with armed.

>>510269160
>because then it could be rebuilt but better.
I'm not sure I share your optimism

>>510270663
That's probably the master bedroom with high ceilings.

>>510277919
smear it with LSD and then call the psychiatric ambulance on them

>>510278015
yes it works the same way in Polish
>beton zbrojony
and the word can be interpreted as "armed"
in linguistics that kind of word is called a 'false friend' btw

Quick and cheap construction at the expense of everything else. Definitely inferior liveability, but back then, the standard was lower, so having indoor plumbing already made them "luxurious" compared to turn-of-century ganghouses.
And especially relative to co-habitation, where multiple families lived in the same apartment, each having a single room for themselves.
They are very 20th century in a sense thry represent a failed promise of modernity.

>>510277195
>Radiators transmit everything in a 5 floor vicinity.
Although there is definitely noise, generally it's not that bad like constantly blasting music or shouting matches. Usually it's the TV, speech or creaking furniture, that you can outnoise without disturbing their own noise.

That is really interesting, I had no idea.

>>510278297
it's unfair to present nakagin tower as a commieblock building

Had to work here once. Was the only white person. Didn't feel to unsafe but it was the middle of the day.

>>510277914
Do you live in a smaller Hungarian city now? Not trying to doxx, just interested as from my understanding the economy in Hungary is very Budapest-orientated.

Do you like Krasznahorkai?

>>510265091 (OP)
I live in the rural commie block.
>its almost for free
>only old people live there so it is quiet
>Still have access to public transport
>there are multiple job oportunities and local business has to import jeets to work so it is turning slowly into a shithole

>>510265091 (OP)
Only normal life for slavniggers

>>510278297
>>510275103
in it's original functional design from 1971
that "top" on each building housed a common laundry room with washing machines and drying lines
people were expected to take the fucking elevator to the 15th floor, then go up the last flight of steps just to do laundry in a common room like in prison
it was retarded and never worked as intended
there was also a common bicycle / baby stroller storage room at the bottom floor
this didn't work too well because the room had to be locked and only the portier had the key
so if he left his place to have a cheeky fap or somethign, you couldn't get your bicycle
also it wasn't open at night, so no evening cycling or anything
tl,dr: bad ideas all around

>>510265091 (OP)
Very cheap in expenses. Good luck maintaing that huge house of yours.
Everything is nearby. You don't even have to ride anywhere, just walking will do.

Can be problematic with certain neighbours. Although it's not really exclusive to commieblocks is it.

>>510265091 (OP)
0, because I like owning my own home with a backyard and not living in some shitty chink takeaway box in the sky.

>>510265091 (OP)
Was shit

>>510278648
PGR dweller spotted

Watch some of the videos when they were being handed over when they were built and what the people thought of them back then. It was a massive improvement in the quality of life. No or barely any maintenance for 40 years will make anything but the most expensive look like shit. The issue with them was that there was no long term plan for how to maintain them. In any case the urban planing around them was perfection.

>>510267374
And all are shit

>>510278812
nigga this shit is still common in switzerland

>>510279053
>common in switzerland
where only Analbanians live like that

>>510278812
Those are the initial ones from the 50s and 60s I bet. And in those years having access to a washing machine at all was a massive improvement.

>>510265091 (OP)
ever wonder why americans dont unite and fight back against the red-huwite-and-blue dick being jammed up their ass? afterall thats how this country was founded and that was only 250 years ago.

car dependency is one of the many tools they use to keep us divided.

only good politician is a dead politician

>>510279203
>Those are the initial ones from the 50s and 60s
these buildings were built beginning in 1971
but the design ideas were probably older
great glorious 1960s commie ideas about how people should live
>access to a washing machine at all
pic related, commie washing machine, the dream of every housewife
not an automatic, no
manual water intake, manual water discharge, and on-off switch
DO YOU NEED MORE, COMRADE?

>>510279203
desu americans as the richest nation have a long history of bringing clothes to laundromat places, so i guess entering the elevator had to do for an average commieblock resident

>>510279475
on the plus side, you can mix concrete with one of those, they're indestructible

>>510267374
any polykatoikia malakas itt?

>>510272079
>pay for recovering the security camera footage
lol grim

>>510265091 (OP)
In between those commie blocks is a playground, where I used to play with 300 other kids. That was the best shit ever.

>>510279452
>blames cars
Poorfag detected

>>510277919
Can’t you just pay gypsies to deal with them. Homeless people as me all the time if I want them to “bat someone out”

In Canada if you go to a homeless camp and find someone to hit a guy you hate with a bat the homeless guy will feel not just lucky but honoured and they will brag about it to their friends (serious)

>>510278173
Another option that i consider is to move away for a while and rent out the apartment to some ex innmate psychopath.
Like just post the apartment as for rent for cheap online and take requests from different people than select the most fucked up individual i can find, some testosterone addict with satanic face tattoos or something.
Just rent out to such a guy and he will unavoidably snap and deal with the alcoholic neighbors from hell himself.

>>510280128
or they will form a psycho commune and join forces to terrorize the entire block

theyre god tier. indestructable. weatherized. pretty sound baffled with good doors. safe. good views. low cost. just kino

im renovating mine right now

knocked out two small closets to expand the office (i masturbate in here)

>>510279943
See >>510280128

Homeless people here are extremely harmless, if they could steal, rob and be able to commit violence they wouldnt have been homeless in the first place

>>510280254
Yeah and than i will have to deal with some satanic psycho who will probably destroy my apartment.
But if i won the loterry and i just wouldnt care about my apartment anymore i swear i would do it.

>>510268648
>>510278163
>0 children rooms
absolute state of capitalmaxxing

>>510265091 (OP)
Comfy, my grandparents used to live in a semi commie block. They built it while they were expanding the city and they needed workers so they sold em for half the price to workers and people like my grandpa.

Everyone knew each other, we would gather 30-40 kids and just play all day for the whole summer. My first gf was a neighbour girl in 5th grade.

>>510265091 (OP)
All city housing is shit by default. Unless you are part of the top 10k its shit.
>What's your experience
Its allright, good neighbors who dont make noise and an autistic old gay guy who keeps the place clean. I would not trade this for a newyork broom closet thats for sure.

They should have put more effort in prettying them up, more accents and colors other than grey but i guess they built within their means...

>>510277735
Concrete is actually a mixture of materials. The cement and water was probably fine, but the sand was likely dredged out river sand and the gravel probably came as a leftover from some random mine. Hence the radiation. They were probably skimping on the amount of concrete too.

I'm saying this because I had chunks of loose concrete fall out from between my panel blocks, where the rainwater was seeping through into my home. The concrete was used to mesh the panel elements together, but they were also fracture points causing large cracks. I filled the cracks in with loads of quality plaster some years ago and it still holds, but I can't say it's a good long term solution.

I know certain commieblocks are made out of bricks and have thicker walls. Those are slightly better quality, but I know for a fact that in my area poor quality river sand had been used. I know my silt.


>>510278554
>Do you live in a smaller Hungarian city now?
Yeah, I only had to live near tram lines during my university years. Never lived in Budapest, only visited multiple times. I don't think I could handle such a huge city.

And Hungary has several countryside towns with tram lines! They are nice places with their pros and cons. I just hate commieblocks. I would love to live in a small village growing my own crops, preferably abroad, but that's impossible for a multitude of reasons that are not strictly financial.

>Do you like Krasznahorkai?
I thought you were referring to some kind of food at first, but I don't know who the hell he is. I only read high literature like manga and only in the original japanese kana dialect!

>>510273001

>A commieblock

I lived in every flavor of block.
>Krushovka
The one you're thinking about, old, cheap, small, shitty, the walls are thin, no parking and no elevator, when you buy a washing machine you carry it upstairs.
The poor people leave in those buildings and the walls are thin so you'll be hearing the old alcoholic couple bashing each other while the migrants are bringing the cockroaches.
The cockroaches are easy to get rid of, the alcoholics - not so much.
Also the walls are shit so you often can't hang a heavy shelf on the wall, the gypsum will crumble around the anchor.

The panel buildings are newer but now are also dated, they often have an elevator, but the prefab has problems, you may end up with the outside wall cracking and leaking the cold wind in the winter. They are fixing and maintaining them, but it's still an aged budget housing.

The blocks with brick outside walls are quite nice and cozy.

The new Putinblocks are coming in all shapes and sized, usually are concrete cast, the cheaper ones have horrible noise insulation, but since it's the new construction instead of the old couple fighting you'll be listening to a young couple fucking. When a guy aupstairs takes a piss at night - you hear it.

Right now I'm living in a brand new luxury apartment 5 minutes away from my work.
It's what it says on the tin, the premium cost prices out the scum and migrants, the walls are thick I can't hear anything, the windows are floor to ceiling, the materials are nice everything is top notch and the walled courtyard has little booths, landscaping and a playground with trampolines for the kids.
The only problem is that the people smoking in the stairwell are triggering the fire alarm at 3AM, but I solved it by cutting the wires.

from what I've seen online, including various camwhore's streams... it's a mix of normal people and drunk/drug addicts living together. while that would suck for the normal person, at least even the most useless drunk/drug addicted people have a home I guess. In the rest of the world, those people would just be causing the same problems on the streets instead of at their building. there are many cities in America where you can't let your kid go to the playground because two crackheads are hanging out there anyways. the only real difference between russia and america seems to be aesthetic at the end of the day.

>>510280503
>my first gf was 5th grader

>>510281282

>>510281177
>the only real difference between russia and america seems to be aesthetic
actually its the hollywoody propaganda machine.
At least we have the excuse that our cities were razed to the ground in ww2 so we built cheap and simple housing for the millions of homeless people. American can always just blame the niggers.

Commieblocks have ample space for public utilities and leisure activities, parks, shrubbery, wide boulevards, heaven on earth compared to capitalistic hellholes with one swingset for 5k residents.

>>510273492
such a good movie it was

>>510280867
>I solved it by cutting the wires

Russian ingenuity

>>510280867
wtf are your smoke detectors are made off?
cigarette smoke never triggered mine in my smoking room right above my head.

>>510280786
>I'm saying this because I had chunks of loose concrete fall out from between my panel blocks, where the rainwater was seeping through into my home. The concrete was used to mesh the panel elements together, but they were also fracture points causing large cracks. I filled the cracks in with loads of quality plaster some years ago and it still holds, but I can't say it's a good long term solution.

yeah, panel building was a bit lower quality, but still, i'm not sure you take in the account the brutality of mother nature, it's very hard for any structure to have zero problems, especially with zero maintenance over 70 years. the modern buildings here, that are built by individual investors (not business towers built by foreign companies) all look beautiful when they're built, and they like trash after 5-10 years, and many let in water in at least some place

>>510282203
I don't know whether it's the smokers or the system itself malfunctioning but sometimes it's starts screeching
>FIRE ALARM VACATE THE BUILDING
And it keeps going until the firemen come and check that everything is actually fine and there's no fire, then it shuts the fuck up.

First time that happened I taped over the louspeaker and put on my noise cancelling headphones, that made it marginally bearable.

Last time it happened at 3AM and i really needed to get some sleep so I guttet the fucking speaker.

What do I need a fire alarm for? The concrete doesn't fucking burn, if another apartment is on fire It's their problem, not mine.

>>510281915

>>510281915
>ingenuity
its criminal mentality
you don't want to seem "weak" and noise complaint
and complaining only get you so far anyway

>>510281810
Did you like Brat?

I loved it. The Student was okay, and Cargo.

>>510282684
The kot was safe, that's the important part.

>>510282684
Imagine destroying a tree for some flea ridden cat

commieblocks wouldn't be that bad if they weren't filled with browns

>>510280867
>people smoking
>fire alarm at 3AM
>playground for the kids
That's a mortgage ghetto, not luxury apartments.

>>510278648
>rural
>quiet
>tons of nature and clean air
I've lived in Los Angeles for 20 years and I would drown puppies in motor oil to live in that building
>>510280128
this is pretty genius

>>510267027
Pretty bad!

>>510269160
UK infrastructure is very strange. On the one hand I can understand things built in the 1880s no longer working very well. But the reality is that the 1880s infrastructure actually works great. And the average water heater manufactured in the UK in 2000 is non-functional 75% or more of the time LOL

>>510272567
It's like the title of a poem

>>510265091 (OP)
comfy
>great build quality
>community
>quiet parks outside away from the jewish roads

>>510283196
True Soviet kino

>>510267382
some here are in better quality than newbuilds built in the last 4 years

>>510281530
Americans and Russians are one people, separated by Jews.

>>510285686
>Americans and Russians are one people
americans are the jews, a cultureless consumerist group

>>510265091 (OP)
Good for doing drugs and sex

>>510283000
>Did you like Brat?
I liked it for what it was, very Saint-Petersburg
Everyone knows about this one, has a cult following
>The Student
don't know about it
>Cargo
I'm assuming Cargo 200? I didn't get the appeal but I was much younger when I saw it long ago, so who knows

>>510285810
We inherited a huge number of them, alas. But you have never been here. And also: do not come.

same thread again and again
scripted world

>>510265091 (OP)
As intended the communist reflexes. Listen on your neighbour, write a report to the regime. I can smell what they smoke, so I can call the police jail them all for years for a joint.

>>510286570
Yeah Cargo 200, it was okay. Any recs? I found the appeal of Brat to be that the protagonist wasn't from St Petersburg and brought a kind of basic village morality to a diseased city, at least at the start. The Student is about a Russian highschooler who becomes obsessed with the bible and insists on imposing it literally in his highschool and home environment and is confronted with the more liberal teachings of a young female teacher, who in turn is confronted with the boomer soviet mentality of her superiors. Kind of interesting.

>>510286709
why would i want to go to the united states of israel?

>>510265091 (OP)

Great as long as the management company does their fucking job which is not always the case. Soviet khruchev era 5 storey commieblocks lack elevators and normal kitchen space.

>>510287044
I'm not a connoisseur on Russian movies myself, but I liked the Zvyagintsev stuff
in particular I liked The Return (a story about two sons confronting a returning (from service?) strict and stern father)
Elena - kinda in the same commieblock vein, about a aging woman married to a rich old guy, but she has her daughter's loser family on her neck so she wanted her husband to help them but he tell them to fuck off, so she tries another "way"
The leviathan - I presume you saw that one, everyone did so I spare you the description? A very heavy movie (for me)
Loveless - also a good one, about a boy who was not loved by his young parents, and what happened because of that (spoiler: nothing good)

His movies always felt so realistic to me, like I was watching a snippet of my own life
But they are a bit heavy or misery porn as someone might say

>>510288464
Exactly, there is no reason for you to come. Stay where you are.

>>510289072
How about Father and Son, by Sokurov?

>>510289356
can't remember
maybe I'll give it a go some time, thanks

>>510272363
>this
What? Commie blocks? Nah, they're everywhere. Sometimes in middle of nowhere and you wonder why would someone even decide to build apartment complexes there. Naturally without forced relocation they get abandoned for actual towns and become even bigger of a problem where a village of 25 people has to support 60 apartment building because 2 elderly and one drunk still lives there. But that's completely different situation compared to what happens in towns.

>>510265091 (OP)
was comfy, but i lived in a gypsy area so i would get my bike stolen all the time, also if it would be in today's world i wouldn't want to hear the neighbours fucking above me or the old gran choking on her breakfast on the other side of the wall

>>510289072
Thanks for this, I'm excited to watch these.

>>510291189
I thought a lot of these places were built because of some nearby mine or natural resource project. It's a pretty interesting phenomenon. Sometimes I travel around Ukraine on google streetview and discover a random commiebloc in what feels like the middle of nowhere, it's quite surreal.

>>510265091 (OP)
Brutalism is comfy, Idgaf.

>>510266571
A real American. Salute

>>510292424
Jesus it would not have been hard or expensive to make them art deco

>>510265091 (OP)
Women screaming through her window at the guy whose hobby is furniture making ( a lot of drilling(heard everywhere))

IMO everywhere seems like the same....USA, USSR, China, etc. all that changes is the weather and the exteriors look different. granted, the mold and decay and that kinda stuff is probably taken to the extreme in Russia... but living in any major city in America is mostly the same. worse in some ways, because everything is under construction 24/7. we just spice it up with different looking buildings. they're all built by lazy corner-cutting spics and managed by building managers that give zero fucks and hire the shittiest goon off craigslist to fix stuff, and only because they're forced to by law

nietzsche was right about neighbors

>>510265091 (OP)
I still live in one. Life is great!

>>510265091 (OP)
>no noise from neighbours (good walls)
>okay neighbours
>window overlooks a playground and some trees
>not cold during winter
It’s fine.

>>510269973
There’s almost no gypsies in commieblocks. They are segregated.
>>510273959
All protected however if there is a housing area they demolish houses and build apartments which is a problem.