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Anonymous (ID: dpWK8ek1) United States No.510294669 [Report] >>510297273 >>510299071 >>510299679 >>510303300 >>510303795 >>510308090 >>510313443 >>510315938
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Self governing city states are the perfect form of government, change my mind.

>But I want ______!
Move to the city state with ______.
Anonymous (ID: dpWK8ek1) United States No.510296226 [Report]
This is the future.
Anonymous (ID: KNu95fBM) United States No.510296456 [Report] >>510298971
>more regular small scale wars
>WMDs become a much bigger problem
you are a fucking clown. let me tell you exactly what the problem with government is, and has always been since the beginning of fucking society: no accountability for the elite.
Anonymous (ID: 36Gd64Rx) Italy No.510297273 [Report] >>510298971
>>510294669 (OP)
Technological societies tend to not rely on autarky and are necessarily interdependent with a variety of external regions up to the global scale, for materials, manufacturing and cultural production.

The city-state model was truly possible only with low-tech agrarian societies, and you don't have the balls to pull a Pol Pot and forcibly revert to these conditions.
Anonymous (ID: dpWK8ek1) United States No.510298971 [Report] >>510299541
>>510296456
More frequent but quickly resolved conflicts.
WMDs are fake because the sky glowies won't let us use them.
>>510297273
Being dependant on global trade is a bad thing.
Anonymous (ID: oM7oTs9h) Canada No.510299071 [Report] >>510299211 >>510299379 >>510301282 >>510303118 >>510311742 >>510314035
>>510294669 (OP)
I love this anime so much. I like it because each episode she explores a different city that has a different philosophy of living. It's hard to recommend to people, though. Not to sound pretentious, but it's too "smart" for some people. Not saying the people who dislike it are dumb, but some people don't like intellectually stimulating entertainment, which is understandable.

Any of you guys have recommendations for someone who really likes this show? I have like nothing to watch right now.
Anonymous (ID: 36Gd64Rx) Italy No.510299211 [Report]
>>510299071
That's just Galaxy Express 999 repackaged
Anonymous (ID: uPcazyxv) Canada No.510299379 [Report]
>>510299071
The scene where they have a vote was so good.
Anonymous (ID: KNu95fBM) United States No.510299541 [Report] >>510301163
>>510298971
>WMDs are fake
it should be incredibly obvious that they are real simply through observing modern geopolitical strategization
Anonymous (ID: t3ZpmV+6) Germany No.510299679 [Report]
>>510294669 (OP)
I'd rather ride with the horde.
Anonymous (ID: dpWK8ek1) United States No.510301163 [Report] >>510304177
>>510299541
M.A.D. rendered nukes useless before the NHI anyway.
Some form of government above the local may exist still, but only to solve problems like this. A space force to defend vs. ayys too.
Anonymous (ID: fVJO9kcD) United States No.510301282 [Report] >>510301452 >>510314295 >>510317001
>>510299071
name?
Anonymous (ID: uPcazyxv) Canada No.510301452 [Report] >>510314295
>>510301282
Kino no tabi.
It's kino.
Anonymous (ID: dpWK8ek1) United States No.510303118 [Report]
>>510299071
Gunslinger Girl has similar aesthetic but very different story.
Anonymous (ID: IndJGZ6j) United States No.510303300 [Report]
>>510294669 (OP)
>Kino's kino Kino No Tabi
Kino
Anonymous (ID: Mg6Sid7X) United States No.510303795 [Report] >>510306842
>>510294669 (OP)
the ancient city state practiced dominion over the nearby agricultural lands. the city offered protection and the adjacent country gave food.
what does a city offer these days to justify its dominion over the country and secure its food supply?
objectively modern cities are rich, yes; but rural areas are more self sustaining than ever before. manufacturing happens in outlying areas, and increasingly in the middle of nowhere.
I see a different future, OP. making complicated manufactured goods no longer requires a city. the city may come to be dominated by the surrounding country in time. cities like detroit will be lost. paris and london will be circumvallated, forgotten, soon to be unsanitary and starving unless they pay significant tribute to the country. this is inevitable as automation and machine learning replace the need to gather millions of workers in one place, simplifying logistics and making it trivial for a rural settlement to or single homestead to get all the manufactured goods it needs.
Anonymous (ID: Mg6Sid7X) United States No.510304177 [Report] >>510305363 >>510308450
>>510301163
>M.A.D. rendered nukes useless
that's silly
if you don't factor deterrence into conflicts like US/Russia (Syria and Ukraine), india/pak, india/china, and in korea, then you'll make useless predictions and be surprised by the results.
if you haven't noticed this you're either not paying attention or you're just bad at updating your beliefs.
Anonymous (ID: dpWK8ek1) United States No.510305363 [Report] >>510310082
>>510304177
>useless predictions
The possibility of a large scale conflict in Europe was dismissed for being "too risky".
Anonymous (ID: dpWK8ek1) United States No.510306842 [Report] >>510307597 >>510310010
>>510303795
>rural settlement or single homestead
Probably the ideal size, megacities are abominations. They have to be small enough that everyone living there gets along, just large enough to be sustainable.
Anonymous (ID: uPcazyxv) Canada No.510307597 [Report]
>>510306842
The maximum number of people you can realistically deal with is ~100.
Anonymous (ID: UajKbf8j) Germany No.510308090 [Report]
>>510294669 (OP)
based anon. Nationalism is just a step closer to globalism. It was the globohomo of the 19th century
Anonymous (ID: qWOByMa8) United States No.510308450 [Report] >>510310352
>>510304177
No one but the kikes have the balls to actually use a nuclear weapon. History has shown us this is the truth. The kikes are evil demon worshippers so they will use them.
Anonymous (ID: Mg6Sid7X) United States No.510310010 [Report]
>>510306842
"village states"
pretty much describes 1700s new england, complete with local decision-making and public armories for defense.
coalitions with other settlements as needed, like ancient greece and revolutionary war period america
Anonymous (ID: Mg6Sid7X) United States No.510310082 [Report] >>510312651
>>510305363
which explains why russia, eu, and america are avoiding total war in favor of this gay meat grinder
Anonymous (ID: dpWK8ek1) United States No.510310352 [Report]
>>510308450
When the discourse starts with the assumptions "jew god is the real god" and "jews are god's special chosen people", there isn't much room for humility on Israel's part.
Arguments like "god made everything" lead to "god made nukes possible" and "we're god's people therefore nukes are for us to use".

The bigger picture is that Israel is home to some of the world's largest weapons manufacturers and wealthiest arms dealers. The country run directly by military industrial complex is starting wars? No way!
Anonymous (ID: yxlkq1pW) United States No.510311742 [Report] >>510312302
>>510299071
>Any of you guys have recommendations for someone who really likes this show?
Try Mushishi. It's very different from Kino's Journey, but they both have artistic vibes and are both about competent wanderers who face a different dilemma each episode. It's about a shaman who travels medieval Japan and helps people with spirit problems.
Anonymous (ID: uPcazyxv) Canada No.510312302 [Report] >>510312768
>>510311742
If you like mushishi, you should also watch Mononoke (not to be confused with Mononoke-hime).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TF_UAh1CQw
Anonymous (ID: dpWK8ek1) United States No.510312651 [Report]
>>510310082
If nukes are useless then the future of war will continue to be the meat grinder.
It is a shame that life is valued so little. Progress too, it sucks that those in charge would rather fight over dirt than improve the lives of citizens.

They should put the money into local infrastructure, not corpses in ditches.
Anonymous (ID: yxlkq1pW) United States No.510312768 [Report] >>510313196 >>510313610
>>510312302
I'll check it out anon. If you like artsy anime, then definitely check out everything by Satoshi Kon. Paprika is my favorite, but all of his shit is really good. The dude dying was the biggest blow to the anime industry ever in terms of loss of artistic vision.

Tatami Galaxy is also good.
Anonymous (ID: uPcazyxv) Canada No.510313196 [Report] >>510313400
>>510312768
Yeah, his works are good.
If you like Tatami Galaxy, you should check out MIND GAME. It's by the same animator.
Anonymous (ID: yxlkq1pW) United States No.510313400 [Report]
>>510313196
Cool, good to see another /pol/tard with a based taste in japanimation
Anonymous (ID: mrf9Y85p) Romania No.510313443 [Report]
>>510294669 (OP)
holy shit the pic awakened some memories
Anonymous (ID: tGMXKm1U) United States No.510313610 [Report] >>510313899
>>510312768
Tokyo godfathers is ass imo but Paprika is pretty good
Anonymous (ID: yxlkq1pW) United States No.510313899 [Report] >>510315239
>>510313610
It's a heartwarming family story. There's no greater political agenda to the homeless drag queen character, unlike with Western media.

Paprika > Perfect Blue > Magnetic Rose > Paranoia Agent > Millennium Actress > Tokyo Godfathers
Anonymous (ID: SPJxBPnT) Spain No.510314035 [Report] >>510314074
>>510299071
frieren is similar but a bit dumbed down
Anonymous (ID: uPcazyxv) Canada No.510314074 [Report]
>>510314035
>He knew what the ring meant
Anonymous (ID: u99D/7TH) United States No.510314295 [Report] >>510314360
>>510301282
>>510301452
OP is the 2003 version of the show, which is a bit better than the 2011 version, which mostly adapts different stories from the novels and is kind of lazy. It does have anime Charles Bronson, though.
Anonymous (ID: uPcazyxv) Canada No.510314360 [Report] >>510314579
>>510314295
I thought the second season was okay.
Anonymous (ID: u99D/7TH) United States No.510314579 [Report] >>510314662
>>510314360
Just okay. The first season managed to weave a little something into it so it was a little more than a series of unconnected episodes.
Anonymous (ID: uPcazyxv) Canada No.510314662 [Report] >>510314870
>>510314579
I mean, that's kinda the curse of anthologies, innit?
Anonymous (ID: u99D/7TH) United States No.510314870 [Report]
>>510314662
Which the first series escaped from by making a series-length story about Kino's three-day rule. Watching the final episode of the first series only works to its full extent by having watched al the previous episodes in the series.
Anonymous (ID: tGMXKm1U) United States No.510315239 [Report] >>510315642
>>510313899
He is portrayed as a genuine and kindhearted person, which makes the audience see transexuality in a more legitimate/positive light therefore furthering the globohomo agenda. I don't think his sexuality furthered the story in any way either, he should have replaced him with another trope. And what's with the spics?
Anonymous (ID: yxlkq1pW) United States No.510315642 [Report] >>510315722
>>510315239
The point is that they're outsiders that everybody looks down on. The lowest of the low in the eyes of Japanese society. Afiak Satoshi Kon never made any other political statements of the kind, and just told a story about raggedy underdogs. Nobody was pushing any sort of agenda in 2000's Japan, it just seems woke when viewed through a modern lens.
Anonymous (ID: uPcazyxv) Canada No.510315722 [Report]
>>510315642
Japan is not shy about making fun of flamboyant gays at all.
Anonymous (ID: VyDV6SDU) Australia No.510315938 [Report] >>510318148
>>510294669 (OP)
>low test anime posting consumer wants to live in a city and suckle at the teat of a state
From your post alone I can determine you got the covid vaccine like a faggot
Anonymous (ID: oM7oTs9h) Canada No.510317001 [Report]
>>510301282
Kino's Journey
Anonymous (ID: dpWK8ek1) United States No.510318148 [Report]
>>510315938
>live in a city and suckle at the teat of a state
citystate, like Athens
autocorrect separated the words.
>A city-state is a sovereign political entity that consists of a single city and the surrounding territory it controls. It functions independently, having its own government, laws, military, and often its own economy and culture.