>>510333959 (OP)
>Won't have to worry about industries anymore because there won't be one

Lmao yeah I suppose you're right

don't cry about your infrastructure getting blown up if you can't or won't defend it

better yet, don't go to war if you can't or won't protect your infrastructure from being casually dismantled by whoever decided they feel like doing it

>>510334037
Gas is cheaper now in Germany than it was before the war. How does that harm German industry zipperhead?

>>510334629
>How does that harm German industry
It has left the country.
The chemical industry in Germany is a fucking impact crater.
Other highly energy-dependent industries have either fled the country or are fucking dead.

The primary reason is killing nuclear power, but blowing up NorthStream - whoever may have been responsible for that - certainly helped accelerating this effort of the """democratic parties""".

>>510333959 (OP)
Why did they neglect nuclear energy?

>>510334629
fucking retard amerifat lol

>>510333959 (OP)
Now show the graph where the GDP crashes due to industry shutting down.

>>510336144
Damn your right, it’s really over

https://www.businessinsider.com/germany-economy-elections-recession-russia-energy-china-manufacturing-industry-debt-2025-2?utm_source=chatgpt.com

>>510334448

>>510334629
Probably because no one besides civilians are using it anymore lmao.

>>510333959 (OP)
>Demand is down due to recession
AWESOME!

>>510333959 (OP)
That chart is from a german government website - and you cannot make it show any data from before february 2022 (when the war in Ukraine started), because then people would realize that prices were actually lower before.

>>510333959 (OP)
Lol

>>510336529
>a shortage of skilled workers
Not really. They need unskilled, badly paid workers, because you need dozens of those to "support" a single skilled worker.
Our politicians are still trying to force our young people to become "skilled workers". Our school system still often produces people barely capable of understanding what they read after 10 fucking years.
>a lack of affordable childcare
We didn't have enough children of our own, because we forced both partners to work full-time in order to raise the GDP. Childcare doesn't raise that unless you monetize it.
>and frustrating levels of bureaucracy
Bureaucracy is not an evil in its own. If it's a tool to enforce (market) rules that work for the well-being of everyone, that's fine.
If it's but a means to dictate people how to live their life and companies how to operate down to the very last detail, like it's starting to look like over here, then it's evil.
They think, their people are so fucking stupid after graduating from the public education system, that they can't look after themselves. That the state has to be there for them at every single step.

>>510336144
Why would it leave the country due to cheaper gas prices?
>>510336298
>>510336691
Seething bulbheads

>>510336943
The chart in OP goes back before that pidor

>>510337341
>Why would it leave the country due to cheaper gas prices?
Gas isn't cheaper than before.
It's cheaper than directly after the pipeline was blown to pieces, but energy of all types has become ridiculously expensive, because Socialists HATE affluence, since that frees the people from their control.
That's why they hate nuclear and want it ended. "Climate" is also but a tool to get the world under the control of a Socialist world government, that the people of the world couldn't hope to control.
Protecting the environment mankind lives in is but a parallel construction to make it look reasonable, unavoidable and to become able to call opponents "anti-science".

>>510337811
No the chart I posted in OP proves you wrong, sorry.

>>510337811
>>510337857
same as the rotterdam hub. Cheaper now than before the war:
https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/eu-natural-gas

>>510337857
>>510337900
Nah, domestic taxes on gas (to protect the planet!) have risen sharply.

>>510337972
Well that has nothing to do with supply then, and is hence otiose to the point of this thread.

>>510338052
I was replying to THIS post:
>Gas is cheaper now in Germany than it was before the war. How does that harm German industry zipperhead?
Note I'm not the leaf you were replying to there.
It's not. Gas is significantly more expensive than in 2021. That has effectively killed several industries in Germany (in combination with the final nuclear power plant shutdowns around the same time).

>>510338204
Well you're government is very stupid then to raise taxes on primary energy in such a way. Meanwhile China burns more coal than the rest of the world combined and ecofaggots never say shit about it. Suspicious isn't it?

>saved money

Well according to your own chart it's on average now twice as expensive as it was when NS was operating in full so yeaaaah

>US blows up your pipeline
>all your Chem plants move to US
Nothing personal kid

>>510333959 (OP)
Germans need a strong hand. Their arrogance is otherwise boundless. You just punch Stefan in the face and he stops laughing.

>>510339120
NS2 was never operating fool. And it't not 2x more expensive no than it was in 2019. Do math better. Why did the price go up so much BEFORE the special operation was launched? Why?

>>510339593

I never even mentionned NS2 in the first place lmao. Price went up because the post-covid economic recovery increased industrial and residential gas use, diverting LNG supplies from Europe.

Also Gazprom lowered pipeline gas deliveries to Europe starting mid-2021 but I'm not 100% sure why. Perhaps maintenance of some contracts that wore-off.

Also remove the corn syrup you have in your eyes mutt, it absolutely doubled on average

>>510339593

Oh and another aspect is that the chart is in EUR/MWh, so the price is directly affected by the overall electricity price in the entire EU, so whenever renewables shits the fan the price of nat' gas immediately goes up, which happened in mid 2021.

If only here had been a convenient way of importing enormous amount of that gas to increase the supply and drive the prices down, uh.

>>510333959 (OP)
no, it killed their industrial productivity...
you know the thing underwriting all the debt...

>>510337341
>>510337375
>the least obvious ukranny shill lecturing Germans about their gas prices dynamics
We have achieved comedy

>>510333959 (OP)
>>510334629
french are unironically subsidizing the energy market with their cheap electricity