Before Birth Control (BBC lol):
>Peen + vagene = baby
>Mates must be chosen carefully
>Typically involves parents, other elders
>Pussy has value because pussy is rare
>Pussy is rare because its bearer must accept that inserting peen = baby, which is a massive consequence and commitment
>Therefore, chivalry, honour, and productivity required for peen to prove worthiness of rare, valuable/expensive pussy to pussy, elders, and God.
>Wedding at place of worship, or at the very least involves invoking higher power.

Post-Birth Control:
>Peen + vagene =/= Baby
>If it does, baby is killed
>No discrimination required.
>No larger community involvement beyond whatever gaggle of hos she drinks with.
>Therefore, no standards enforced. Sexuality governed purely by impulse.
>Pussy is not infinite, but it is post-scarcity. If can't get one physically, can just click to dispense porn. Basically no value.
>Chivalry, honour, and productivity not required because no consequences, no value, and no higher power to judge.
>Wedding consecrates nothing, is rare instead of base expectation, and takes place anywhere but a church. Does not grant access to pussy.

It gave an outlet for r selected behaviors to express themselves like never in any organisms existence. The reason for that is that those behaviors evolved to increase reproduction. Any of these career sluts who'll fuck a new guy every week would have had 6 babies by her 6th year of fertility. Been so blown out from it that she'd lose her attractiveness, and had her priorities readjusted by that point that she'd be glowing onto any beta male willing to take her.
The ability to have wanton sex with no babies is unprecedented and our genes are not adapted for the situation. These r genes never needed to last into the 20s pet alone old age. Fuck fast, pop out babies, die young. That was the plan. We're living through a major evolutionary shift. Females are selecting themselves out of the gene pool in a way that's never happened before.

would someone carefully choose YOU as a mate, OP?

>>510370598
Perhaps that's by design.
>>510370731
Like I said, they don't choose carefully anymore. Frankly, I've been repulsed every time an advance was made simply because a bitch was drunk and/or bored. Like, WTF, those aren't reasons I'm going to potentially alter the entire course of my life.
Basically, I don't want the pussy because it is not sacred.
>Stop putting it on the pedestal, goy.
I'm not a nigger, Shlomo.

Bringing an innocent consciousness in this shit world without its consent is the peak of atrocity

Humanity should go extinct so whatever deranged creator that made this place is left holding his dick

>>510370226 (OP)
Remove cost of action, people do said action more leading to unintended consequences.

you do realize people have had birth control and abortions for literally thousands of years, right?

>>510371772
We need pain-erasing meds. Not pain relieving or killing. Make pain not exist. Then, shit will get real interesting.

>>510370226 (OP)
Big if true

>>510373117
It wasn't effective. Women were shoving orange slices in their snatch. The pill is 99.9% effective, super easy to take, and has no consequences(the consequences are invisible). The bc is unprecedented in human history and the affect on society is self evident.

>>510370226 (OP)
>peen + vagene
kek

>>510370226 (OP)
I'm not saying today is better, but you just chose an arbitrary point in history where mates were chosen carefully with parents/elders involved. Why? This is not "natural". If you go back further it's just who has a bigger stick or who's the biggest ape. It was also like that with "elders" you just had to be part of that group to play along otherwise it's back to the stick. The whole chivalry and honor are copes invented exactly for the purpose of making people behave a certain way instead of doing what they truely want.

>>510373117
Socially conservatives are like this. They will push it a zillion times.

If the peen fit vagene you must not redeem

>>510373117
They had healthcare, too!
Now take a seat and let's balance your humors.

>>510370226 (OP)
Birth control is irrelevant. Women "forget" to take it when they are having sex with desirable men, and they don't demand condoms either. And those are just the behiavoural mechanisms, there are lots more going on inside the female reproductive tract that lead to increased contraception from more desirable men.

Women need to become the property of men again, so that they are filled with lust for their husbands and their bodies react favourably to their insemination.

>>510370226 (OP)
The Catholic Church predicted all of this 60 years ago.

>>510377304
Most of us are bored to the death of this surge in socially conservative issues. Making babies, environment doomsday, etc are now socially conservative.

>>510376091
i like the part of birth control where the woman stops caring for her partner once they stop taking it

>>510377486
>environment doomsday, etc are now socially conservative.
Lol

>>510370226 (OP)
picrel, the long version

>>510376758
>copes
Yeah, but they also weed out kikes, so...

>>510377641
she only “cared” about the beta provider because the pill if she wasnt on the pill, she wouldnt be in the situation to “stop caring” she would properly pair bond instead

>>510377360
>Women need to become the property of men again, so that they are filled with lust for their husbands
Also because woman entering the workforce hasn't meant woman put gathering behind her and become the hunter. She's simply expanded their nest to the whole fucking planet and go around treating everyone as she would if they were in her nest. Return to kitchen. Nag one penis instead of ALL of them at once.

>>510370226 (OP)
So basically once again jews since they invented birth control. Every single time.

>>510376758
Evolution didn't stop when your neanderthal-ass nose came on par with Homo Sapiens, it's still ongoing.

And if you hope to leave this rock before it inevitably becomes uninhabitable when the sun burns out, you have to evolve humanity to be able to cope with living in the (space) pod and interstellar scarcity.
Currently, not even the best-behaved whites or japs would make it: Germans are subverting all of their friends and neighbors, Russia is doing "hulk smash", America decided to wipe its ass with the global community, and Japan is actively going extinct before our very eyes with no war, famine nor disease to blame for it, a truly a-biblical end for that race.

I mean, if you don't care about survival on the million-year scale, collective health and beauty, yeah do what you want.
On the other hand is the need to evolve a human that does not need policing with a baton to stay in line.
>inb4 upbringing and education
The new-born brain is not a blank slate, otherwise you could teach a dog to write. We have to evolve the brain to be able to LEARN TO EXIST in a higher-order society.

Whether or not any of us is a "you won't make the cut" kind of subhuman is beside the point — at some point human thinking and argumentation (arguments vs the group and even against yourself in your internal monologue) must transcend the self and think about the whole concurrently with the individual. Kind of like when an unsung hero of the soviet union threw his body over an MG nest so his comrades could advance. We're not at that level collectively; even the average of philosopher is in it for personal aggrandisement – Peterson, Zizek and Dugin come to mind, all of whom cultivate their celebrity instead of their actual work. Even bomber Ted was ultimately more interested in what human civilization thinks about his message rather than teaching the message itself, kinda like a lethal version of Just Stop Oil.

Cultivate the brain like the apple tree.

>>510376091
How not to invent birth control is a hurdle that intelligent life must overcome it it wants to survive as a civilisation.

>>510370226 (OP)
Population increases exponentially whenever and wherever birth control is absent
For that reason alone birth control could potentially be the very thing that saves humanity from abject extinction. As always we need to handle the consequences. Also as always the consequences are not being handled.

>>510370226 (OP)
Did you ever consider that women would find someone to marry quickly, someone that offered them stability, because that freed them up to have affair / have sex with the men that they really wanted?
Alpha fucks Beta Bucks, every time.

>>510380732
>the consequences are not being handled
Hmmm. Do India and China need a good glassin'?

>>510380463
why are they so obsessed with sex and white people? they even have a cuckold counterfactual interpretation of mary and jesus, which mirrors modern cuck/chad posting

>>510381242
I'm not talking about high birth rates, I'm talking about the issues caused by access to effective birth control, so no, if anyone needs a "glassing" it's North America and western Europe.
But a better solution would be to handle the consequences.

>>510381673
How about we "glass" *both* and leave Austria-Hungary as the last one standing?

>>510377641
Lol no she just went from progesterone jinning up her attraction to infants for pair bonding misdirected at dysgenic men. Then stopping it makes her attractive to normal men again.

>>510380674
That or bc becomes an evolutionary hurdle that sends impulsive non-thinkers down the extinction shit pipe.
Bc being normalized means much more intentional family starters and way fewer accidental parents.
Wait till sex robots.

>>510382308
not quite because the pill introduces noise in the calculus of selection, so its not only acting as a hurdle its altering the way pairing up and relationships function especially in the context of consequential births

>>510381883
Friendly reminder that
1) austria is stamp sized now compared to the good old days
2) you are as fucked as the rest of us when it comes to how society changed because of birth control
Just saying

>>510382625
to put another way dysgenic retards wont necessarily get filtered and order following dumb dumbs could reproduce at higher rates under such contrived artificial altering of these formerly natural processes

>>510382308
Modern BC'd society features absolutely random reproduction profiles, compounded by people who physically couldn't make children (women who NEED caesareans and borderline impotent men) actually propagating theirdamaged genes into the next generation.

Aside from deformity and disability rates increasing (that includes bad eyes and misshapen feet that can't run), there's a problem with inclinations toward "chivalric" behavior vanishing. Advanced society needs them, either imparted through external pressure or born in instict. People being instinctually honorable would actually be the ultimate evolutionary jump, just as when mankind became capable of sharpening rocks, which made the entire evolutionary arms race of fangs and claws moot overnight.

To advance instead of regress and become stagnant on this rock, humanity needs fo collectively rise to the point where,
if a murderer took an entire group hostage, there was nothing that could be done
and he said "I gotta shoot one of you and then I leave. I just NEED 1 and then I'm done"
the weakest, ugliest, unhealthiest man in the group would instinctually self-select and volunteer, no hard feelings attached,
and it goes both ways
the survivors would be above gloating,
and they would realize "we just narrowly came out of the shittiest situation, we have to do something about this"
and they wouldn't go "what a fucking loooser hahaha check this out Imma tbag that dead beta bitch ayy lmao"

We were barely making progress toward this ideal before, now with modern medicine and medication, the next generation is mostly composed of niggerbrained deadbeat "chads" (typically some form of wealth-not-producing societal parasite), autistic losers born of aged mothers after settling for a no-self-esteem provider who's happy to have any woman in the house at all, and literal gypsies. People with good qualities – beauty, health and strength, money-making abilities – self-exclude from the genepool by having 0-1 kids

>>510384652
>autistic losers born of aged mothers after settling for a no-self-esteem provider who's happy to have any woman in the house at all
No u >.>

>>510382625
Young girls used to get pregnant in their teens. It was supposedly a huge problem all the way up till the 90s. Now most girls go to college and college nukes a woman's reproductive prospects.

>>510383021
No, and I didn't think they would. The hurdle doesn't select for intelligence it selects for the choice to not use bc. Either because of inte tonal family planning or the women who just keep having babies for welfare.
Prior to the pill women's reproduction was nearly guarenteed. Gurenteed and they had lots of kids. Now not only are women having fewer kids but more woman than ever are having 0 kids. The behavior limitations of women are a product of their reproductive invincibility. Now that's gone and it is directly a result of women's behavior that decides one way or the other. Women must choose to reproduce or at least be so devoid of choosing ability that they never choose to take the pill.

the main problem with contraceptives is that only poor subhumans with no access to them have children in bulk nowadays. Successful people wait until their 30s to have children and by that time its already too late to have a functional child.