Pros :
> Rich people (>10 millions £) continue to accumulate assets, making life really hard for families
> This kind of stuff already happened several times in history (see Gracchi brothers agrarian reforms), nothing new under the sun
> It's relatively easy to implement as this targets real estate or British mortgages (insert *my country* instead of Britain)

Cons :
> What's supposed to be a "wealth tax" on families with more than 10 millions of net assets will have a threshold of 9 millions the next year, 8 millions the year after ... and 50£ in 15 years
> Still no clear explanation of how this is supposed to be redistributed. Agrarian reforms were straighforward : land taken from the patricians and given to soliders. Here we'll have a complex system to channel money into a dark hole without any material redistribution of the houses

This fag is such an embarrassingly bad psyop. But then I remember how embarrassingly retarded normies are.

We don't need more taxes we need less spending

>>510398500 (OP)
in the states all that is needed is to tax capital gains and dividends as ordinary income, that's effectively a wealth tax right there. Use it to fund UBI and at the same time remove all other welfare programs to save on admin costs. This will never happen though because there are too many entrenched interests in keeping it the way it is.

>>510398702
you need a guillotine

>>510398500 (OP)
I'm all for allowing them to self-regulate, and when they inevitably push the envelope, they get a bullet. Every time. Let them get rich. Let them get just as rich as the rest of the rich people, but not more so. It would be like punishment for them. For some reason, as a fucking species, we cheer on the worst, shittiest, most greedy, heartless, cut throat rancid pieces of fucking garbage that ever lived because they lie, cheat and steal until they have wealth that we wish we had.

Punish the rich with death. There can be no other option.

>>510398500 (OP)
there should be no wealth tax and rich people should be less taxed than poor people.
its poor people need more taxes, they would work harder if they knew working hard would reduce their taxes.

>>510398500 (OP)
Dense retard doesn't understand that a wealth tax encourages the wealthy to move abroad, hide their money and pretend they're poor or apply for lots of favours to avoid paying tax. Yes well done you have solved all the problems of the UK by redistributing wealth from those who earned it to those who didn't; just like when Reeves and her predecessors did when they raised taxes and redistributed it with other taxes.

God please give me the strength to kill these socialists when the time comes, amen.

>>510398759
>shills for the murderous jew-masonic conspiracy known as the French revolution
Maybe you should read up on what the people who didn't like it recorded?

>>510398903
>wealthy to move abroad, hide their money and pretend they're poor or apply for lots of favours to avoid paying tax
implying they don't already do this LMFAO

>>510398903
The socialists are dupes.
The masters of the banks who are the masters of the state are the problem.
Note I am not talking about the Two Tier Queer

>>510398500 (OP)
If they just sort out the housing market I think everything else would even itself out.

BAMEs cost the UK £1 billion per month on U.C gibs. Cut the fuckers off and we've saved £12bn p/a. That's a good start.

>>510398500 (OP)
>hey bruv so genz is poor innit? So we need more migrants to make everyone richer. Hate for mass migration is fostered by the rich.
t. richfag in favour of mass migration

>>510398500 (OP)
Making homes with zero residents for 3 years forced into auction would solve a lot.

>>510398500 (OP)
I think the wealthy should purge the poor and maintain just enough of a population to sustain the species of slaves while ruling over them, this excess has gotten out of hand.

>>510398880
I hope this is a bad joke.

>>510398903
Good. they'll out themselves and we can send the hunters to find them.

>>510398500 (OP)
this silly communist is rich as fuck, complains that his sister barely make ends meet, yet he doesn't help her?

taxation is theft

>>510399178
I think you should be culled.
After that, we'll see.

>>510399179
no, not a joke. I also think that if you arent at least a millionaire by 30 you should be killed.
without poor people we would live in paradise.

>>510399469
Your first post was humorous but you've lost me here, not just because of the absolutely absurd economics necessarily implied by it.

>>510398500 (OP)
as he been avin a fink?

>>510399569
poorfags will be replaced with AI and robots so in the future this will be possible.
I dont see why poor should even exist, what do poor people do thats important?
why should poorfag trash be allowed to exist?

>>510399652
Even if I grant your hypothetical we're still a long way off having the technology to do that.
Poor people who work (that belong in the countries they are in) and are not criminals are fine.

>>510399007
Taxes suck, paying them makes you a sucker. I am implying they should all fuck off before this chimp nigger robs them of potentially their only redeeming factor which is being rich. I prefer to think they got rich by good methods but let's not kid ourselves, they probably got rich by bank jewry, shaking their tits a lot online or being a professional (((footballer))); I'm really talking about rich people in the sense of useful professionals with a brain pissing off and never looking back as they should.

>>510399038
preach it, the socialists do love their central banks and fiat currency magic, I might live long enough to see what disgusting tricks await with digital currency.

>>510399230
Many people will hunt them when they've taken everything.

>>510399852
poor people are never fine.
there is a reason why they are poor, they have no skills, they have no education or knowledge, they dont contribute anything, they bother everyone else with their miserable existence.
and if you cant figure out how to make money, arent you too low IQ to be part of society?
why coddle these retards and make things easier for them?

>>510398780
The problem is older generations support the wealthy because they're so fucking stupid and out of touch assuming they did it through honest means. They unironically think shorting markets and buying out politicians and lobbyists is 'normal'.
They even pin down their own children with the notion that they should be like the demons whose families have been rigging the game since before they were born.
You can't reason with the older generation. Young people have the least wealth and power out of anyone.
Perhaps what's worse, they're not organized. The division and chaos rooted in this system ensures people see race sex and religion before class. Always before they see class.
It's by design. Remember occupy Wall street.
The wealthy know what to fund to distract the masses. How to weaponize their own interests against them.

The rich would sooner fund terrorists (or the fucking federal government directly,) to publicly kill organizers than give up an inch of power. This is a war people don't realize they're already a part of. And the rich want to make sure it stays that way.

>>510398500 (OP)
I think there should be a Chad&Stacy tax.

>>510398500 (OP)
Taxes are handbrakes.
To improve purchasing power, simply reduce taxation on the impoverished.
Eliminate income tax altogether. The rich won't notice, the poor will.
Eliminate taxes on fuels at the consumer level. The rich won't notice, the poor will.
Reduce VAT on supermarket goods. Once more, the rich don't care, but the poor do.

The increase of purchasing power among the lowest common denominators directly causes increased consumption, thus demand for goods and services, which creates more job opportunities for everyone from the poor to the middle-class.
It also allows small or independent businesses to establish themselves and build themselves up, which can help create generational wealth.

The problem you're trying to tackle has been solved centuries ago.
More tax simply reduces people's purchasing power, and limited purchasing power is the root of the problem.

>>510398500 (OP)
> Thoughts on the concept of wealth tax ?
commies like you get pic related

>>510398500 (OP)
>Impose wealth tax on "the rich".
>Inflate the currency like crazy.
>Profit.

No refunds goy.

>>510399469
Wealth is attained through greed. It's obvious that your morality is based upon jewish wealth. The filthy kikes have laid out a board game before you and you've set your goal on playing the game. Congratulations. Greed and intelligence are often mutually exclusive.

I'd say that if we culled every IQ under 125, we'd live in a paradise. No paradise would be a paradise for the salves serving yours, and without them, your wealth means nothing.

>>510399994
>Many people will hunt them when they've taken everything.
I'll be with them.

retards talking about assets like it's the 1700s
>dey can't take dem 'ouses wid dem blud
billionaires don't have their wealth in fucking houses

>>510400285
wealth is attained through work and being intelligent yes.
poorfags dont work hard, arent intelligent and they add nothing to the accomplishments of the human race.
so why coddle these useless eaters?
its a waste of limited resources which are in much better hands of a rich and smart man.

>>510399994
They do love central banks. It's literally one of the points of Marx's manifesto. Plain as day. The dummies miss that most important bit because they get excited by the utopianism and implied hedonism.

>>510400002
Because lots of great people have come from humble backgrounds and plenty of kids who grew up rich are useless retards.
The state coddling the unproductive is bad though. We can presumably agree on that?

>>510399271
>taxation is theft

It's just a case of if you consider it theft or extortion anon.

>>510400056
You don't have to tell me; I'm genX and was raised by people who bought into the "order" of society all their lives, paying more than their fair share for everything and fighting for the right to do so, because they were trained to believe the lower middle class route was moral and respectable, not simply a plan for slavery and the ruination of their won families for the sake of the ZOG. You can't convince them they were wrong all along; they fight you. They put their fingers in their ears and say "LALALALALA I'M NOT LISTENING TO YOU LALALALA" until you stop trying. Nothing will change until they're dead, and by then, their replacements will be well trained. Early demise is the only option.

>>510400089

You are right on those points; tax on incomes were, for 2000 years now, considered unfair. Very unfortunately, it's the direction chosen by socialist government to continue paying pensions for boomers. The welfare state that exist for now 60 years is really just a one off for the boomers, everyone else lives in poverty.

This is why the concept of wealth tax is supposed to NOT create more cash flow into the hands of bureaucrats but equalize the other taxes that burden the poors.

Again, wealth tax happened during the Roman Republic.

>>510400172

I gave the example of the Gracchi brothers to illustrate my point. Anyway you're in big kurwa so prepare yourself to get enrolled to fight the gopniks.

>>510400445
>Buy bonds and stocks
>Bet against them
>Borrow money when you need something
>Pay zero interest when you keep borrowing
>Die with all of the debt of a fucking third world country
>None of your family inherit your debt

The fact this hasn't been patched proves how fucking retarded the average person truly is. This is the kind of shit you should assassinate the rich over. They don't even have it coming, they're BEGGING you to fucking kill them and the policy makers for this kind of shit.
We're way past the point of asking what it's going to take for you to remove them from the human race. People have answered with their indifference that the rich can even rape kids on an island and still be elected president TWICE.

Lmao. Fuck our gay species. I hope the world ends in fire. Fuck human beings. People deserve what they tolerate.

>>510400450
I have a 132 IQ, anon. I'm in the top 5% worldwide. I design everything I can for my usage. I grow food, mushrooms and medicine. I preserve food and build custom decks. Would you preserve me? I don't do anything to conform to this society and think people like you are wastes of oxygen. I do everything I can not to pay taxes to this government, too.

>>510399271

Does she have an OF ?

>>510400556
now thats just cherrypicking.
lets face it, 99% of poorfags are useless and will never amount to anything.
>>510400823
>Would you preserve me?
you sound retarded because you waste your intelligence on being a poorfag instead.
there is nothing noble about being a poorfag.

>>510400445

Because virtual assets are not important. Dr Shekelberg can play with his S&P if he wants, real people need real houses and hospitals.

Also, in the UK, 2/3 of the peers in the House of Lords literally make all their money via rent.

>>510400002
The working poor is a problem. People that contribute to society should be able to live with dignity. A dignified population is preferable to hordes of discontents because they haven't figured out the right way to screw others over to get ahead. That's not even getting into issues of ethno nationalism, if you want a functioning homogeneous society you need people at the bottom of the pyramid also, and treating them as untouchables is doing nobody a favor.

>>510401241
>you need people at the bottom of the pyramid
well hopefully automation can solve that and replace the bottom of the pyramid with AI. the useless eater should go into concentration camps.

>>510400670
>Anyway you're in big kurwa so prepare yourself to get enrolled to fight the gopniks
yes, za dwa tygodnie, in two weeks, lol

>>510401110

Why do people find so hard to accept that wealth is mostly just a matter of luck ? Is it so hard to accept that ? Do you really believe that your fairytale about rich people having +150 IQ has any ground ?

>>510400774
Banks are giving out interest-free lifetime loans that never have to be paid back? Why would they do that? What the fuck are you talking about?

>>510401379
if you were truly intelligent you wouldnt be a poorfag

>>510401379
>Why do people find so hard to accept that wealth is mostly just a matter of luck ?
it's luck plus preparation
you disregard the preparation part
because it's le boring and hard work
which is why you are still a poorfag

>>510401651

Am I in kurwa ?

>>510401110
>there is nothing noble about being a poorfag.
There is nothing noble about accumulating jewish social markers. There is plenty noble about attaining skills and knowledge and teaching others. Your love of wealth is poison to your personality.

>>510401701
>Am I in kurwa ?
worse, you are in the Rotherham Caliphate of Bongistan
insult Mr. Choudhury at your own peril

>>510401501
If you really were intelligent what made you think you aren't going to end up in the concentration camp for being a useless eater when you get old, dysfunctional and the AI decides it can do your job better than you.

>>510398500 (OP)
no matter how you define "wealth" trully rich people will make sure they don't have it.

Whatever you want to fund with that wealth tax plus the large number of people who will pocket parts of it along the way will require you to shift that down to non rich people just like you are describing.

tl/dr: non rich people will be only ones paying this tax.

>>510402042

The way I understand that is to force "rich people" to sell their real, physical assets (houses, mortgages, share in utilities, hospitals...) for kikeish stocks or derivatives, so that normal people can reclaim control of infrastructures.

>>510398500 (OP)
They should do a land tax so wealthy people cant just sit on housing and get rich

>>510401110
Gotta agree with the burger. You have a love of money which is rather Jew-coded. I suggest you rethink some of your premises cause this isn't the way to see it.

>>510401238
So you don't care actually care about "taxing wealth" you just want to squeeze landlords harder? It won't bring rents down btw.

>>510402321
He doesn't see the big picture. He sees only his microcosm. He sees his older-generation dad telling him being self-sufficient is godliness. He sees the game as the point, not the point of the game as the distraction from living life that it's intended to be.

>>510401811
>attaining skills and knowledge and teaching others.
if it doesnt end up earning you more money and a better lifestyle than what is the point?
>Your love of wealth is poison to your personality.
thats another poor people lie, so you really cant be as smart as you claim.

>>510402017
because I'm smart and intelligent and rich.
people like me will always be on the top end while people like you will always be at the bottom.
you even have to invent taxes for me to drag me down on your level.
pathetic

>>510398500 (OP)
Inheritance taxes are based. There's no reason why you should have all this wealth you didn't earn just because you won the vagina lottery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec3_Qd1x55A

>>510403315
>living life that it's intended to be.
as a "own nothing and be happy" poorfag coper?
no thanks.

>>510398500 (OP)
taxes cannot fix a fundamentally kiked system
capitalism rewards parasites and punishes honest workers. always has, always will.

>>510398500 (OP)
kikepitalists should be culled like the landlords under mao

>>510403354
>if it doesnt end up earning you more money and a better lifestyle than what is the point?
What's the point of religion?
>You can't be as smart as you claim.
I'm not in competition with your powers of deduction, nor do I care if you believe me.

>>510403450
Who says I own nothing? My house is paid-off. My car is paid-off. I can fix nearly everything I own. People call me because they respect my input, not because they need to borrow money.

>>510398500 (OP)
Gary is totally boss.

>>510398500 (OP)
The main issue with wealth taxes is that governments get the money (to redistribute.)
I would rather have some rich cunt doing coke on a prostitue's boob crack than giving a single dime to the state.

>>510404319
And the 99% continues to lose because of leafanon.

>>510404680
My point is that I would rather have the 1% enjoying their life, instead of everyone being miserable because the state can make money disappear.

>>510404902
You have to stop viewing the world in terms of two worst-case scenarios. Greed is the greatest driving force on earth, and it'd be hard to control, but the 1% is lavished in luxury on the same wealth that the world could be comfortable on. One man desires to be comfortable and raise healthy children. The other wants everything, and to control you to get it.
Why the fuck does humanity always root on the one who wants everything? Any man who can take everything is so far beyond inhuman by that point that he should be shunned like a man who just raped a year-old child. We should put tires and kerosene around their necks and watch them struggle in agony until they die, the same they do to the masses.

>>510405505
You're missing my point, so I'll dumb it down.
>Option A: top 1% enjoys their wealth
>Option B: everyone is miserable
I'd rather have a few happy people.

>>510407289
He described your "point" perfectly
>>510405505
>You have to stop viewing the world in terms of two worst-case scenarios.

>>510398749
They already are taxed that way.

>>510398500 (OP)
Doesn’t work when tax havens exist. The weathy have never been more mobile so all you get is rich people divesting from your economy

Why do you guys insist on slurping the cocks of landlords?

>>510407452
Not at all

>>510398500 (OP)
Fuck rich people.

>>510398500 (OP)
>wealth tax
Doesn't go far enough, will affect absolutely nothing. The rich ought to have their families set aflame.

>>510398500 (OP)

You will catch the upper middle class at most. The uber wealthy have lots of tools at their disposal to protect themselves from such a tax.
Just see how much inheritance tax the rich pay.

>>510407289
>I'd rather have a few happy people.

But those few happy people aren't doing anything for your happiness, why should you make a sacrifice for them?

Why are commies so fucking retarded?

>Billionaires are evil!

>we need the funds from skimming a portion of their productive use of resources to give it away to parasites who will literally hand it right back to billionaires but demand an additional product/service in return.

You want to divide a finite resource by infinity, take the remainder, demand even more resources and expect things to work out.

>That's the governments job to figure out

There's only one ending for a tranny.

>>510398500 (OP)
How about making the poor pay their fair share, plus make them adhere to the social contract? The poor are the problem, they are the ones ruining the quality of life of their neighbors. The rich arent the ones making inner cities unsafe and run down.

>>510407289
That's why I said stop boiling it down to the two worst-case scenarios.

>>510407452
People who change things for the betterment of the people are rare, but they happen. The people can also demand it, but we're too steeped in the limited comforts we're allowed to even realize we're slaves.

>>510411564
why dont you share everything you have with homeless niggers?

>>510411644
I don't have excess. Those who have excess should.

>>510398903
Don't let those people flee the country then, how hard is that?

>>510411644

That's another problem, they would use the extra revenue to import more niggers.

>>510411907
>>510411907
You could apply citizen based taxation, or tax the hell out of the assets they have in the country.

>>510398903
We should have a team of forensic accountants that finds and deletes their fiat currencies. Poof. All gone. No longer diluting the money pool while also being withheld from it.

>>510411907
The successful ambitious people are the ones we should enslave.

>>510412118
Maybe, I just never understood the "they would flee the country" argument. Even if they did get away yeah you could just seize their assets and liquidate it. It's not like they literally have big cartoon sacks of money around that they take with them.

>>510412406
>and liquidate it
I want them to simply delete it. It's just numbers in space.
Poof

>>510398500 (OP)
make housing unrentable
everyone owns their residence and any borrowing involved is reasonable and non predatory
non whites are put in camps until the logistics of repatriating them is organized

>>510412608
Okay but only if you make them watch and maybe livestream it, for the schadenfreude.

>>510412871
of course!

back in the old days.
people would sell piss for its nitrate for fertilizer and gunpowder/explosives.

I say we abandon money and gold and return to a piss based economy.

>>510398903


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=luobN4xGOdA

yeah he does retard

He's not even saying to completely redistribute wealth, he's saying stop the insane redistribution from poor to rich that's already happening.

The fact that the phrase wealth tax triggers the right and causes absolute seethe beyond measure means its working

>>510407730

because right wing rags keep paying grifters to argue with him on boomerbox news to try and discredit him and make him look bad, but it doesn't really work because he's not some hard left maniac.

He's just saying to stop the looting of our country by venture capital firms who are selling it off to foreign money - everyone is getting poorer and you cant blame it on jeets forever.

They're a symptom of globalist overlords buying the middle class out of existence, and until you retards realise this, we're gonna continue to get horseshit 'anti-immigration leaders' who bang a big drum but actively make the probelm worse like Boris or Trump

>>510398500 (OP)
Roman republic probably would have been fine if there was some sort of tax or limit placed on properties owned by the oligarchs. The problem is when a few men own all the property and everyone has to pay for the privilege to live on it then the social contract is no longer benefiting society at large and the common people are better off revolting.

>>510398702
This

>They'll just leave!

>>510412870
That's rather anti-freedom of you. A lot of people don't want to be tied down to a property at a particular stage in life and renting is an excellent option for them.