All my life I’ve noticed a difference between men and women that goes beyond biology. It’s not about roles, but about inner structure. I always imagined two internal forces - call them A and B. Most men seem to be built primarily on A, with B as a lesser but present component. Women are the inverse. The split isn’t exact, but the tension it creates feels real. What matters more is how each sex relates to this inner tension.

Men, in general, know they carry both forces, even if they can’t name them. There’s an awareness that something “other” lives in them. Women, in contrast, often reject the idea of two internal forces altogether. Many identify only with one, and dismiss the presence of the other - especially the structured, rational one. In effect, the masculine within them goes unrecognized.

This leads to an imbalance. In recent decades, society rejected logos - order, structure, discipline - as oppressive. And because men are built from logos, this rejection cut into the male psyche directly. Men didn’t fight back. They withdrew. And now, ironically, women ask why men have become passive, checked-out, or unmotivated. They call men lazy or useless. But that’s not accurate. The truth is: logos was asked to leave. And it did.

Here’s what I find interesting: when women blame men, men accept the blame. When men blame men, men still accept it. But when blame is placed on women - no one takes it seriously. Not men, not women. It’s as if the feminine is outside the field of accountability. Psychologically, I think this ties back to the asymmetry: men live as carriers of law, women as expressions of nature. When law fails, the lawbearer is punished. When nature fails, we call it tragedy.

So now the culture has no functioning logos. The feminine rejected it, and the masculine, shamed by both sexes, refuses to rebuild. But logos won’t return out of guilt. It will return only when it is invited back - not as a tool, but as something necessary.

Im learning so much

only thing ive noticed is all other societies have ideas of gender roles and all other societies built cities. birth rates plummet in cities and group housing.

>>510411510 (OP)
pretty spot on

>>510411510 (OP)
Fuck off nigger with gAi nonsense...
fucking imbecile

>>510412827
why are you acting so wounded and insulted

>>510411510 (OP)
I want to look like that.

>>510411510 (OP)
Women are to blame for why things are how they are, and they are who need to change in order to return to a workable system that will advance toward betterment for everyone.
It is that simple.
Why we do not, is also simple. Social elites, the most successful, are the least effected from a gynocentric system.
They don't get feminized to quite the extent everyone else does, and they are fine with that. Why have masculine underlings that could be potential competition, when instead they could have more numbers of compliant ones.

An important aspect however, is that a highly feminized society is not sustainable. It never has been since the stone age, and it never will be. Women are not leaders. They are caretakers. They are accountants and secretaries. They are middle-management of any human group that watch over children, the weak and the old. That is their nature.
When they are not in their proper role they do not create useful outcomes as a very consistent generality.

Any society adhering to egalitarianism and feminism will ultimately collapse or be conquered, and return to what works and is natural. One way or the other.

Many of our elites are Jews. When a society becomes too unstable, they will simply evacuate to wherever that their people are concentrated, which would be Israel at this time.
/pol/ is right, and Jews are at the heart of all troubles when it comes to feminism.
White egalitarians and feminists are a problem, but without Jews and what they consider societal mores and virtues like feminism and equity, they never would have arisen from the start even in concept.
If I had my way we would force logos to return. There would be nothing wrong with doing so, and all would be better off. We would save a lot of misery and time. Because however it is done, is returning one day. That is inevitable.

>>510411510 (OP)
>I always imagined two internal forces - call them A and B.
Yin and Yang are pretty well-established

>>510413099
>Women are to blame for why things are how they are, and they are who need to change in order to return to a workable system
I agree, but this is where things kind of... collapse.

Because when you say "women" you imply a sovereign ego which recognises both masculine and feminine archetypes, and chooses to balance both in order to establish order.

However, the point of my OP post is that Women are inherently incapable of recognising archetypes the way you see them.
To women - a woman is feminine.
To a man - a man is masculine with a dash of femininity hidden inside.

And this is what causes the huge problem, when you're asking women to "fix" something, you are asking them to see the world the way men see it, and to see themselves the way men see them. But they don't.
So you're yelling at a wall that has no ears, and will never grow them

>>510413244
>Yin and Yang are pretty well-established
my point is picrel

>>510411510 (OP)
Women are solipsistic children, story at 11

>>510413510
I didn't say you were wrong

>>510411510 (OP)
What I'm reading here is that the root cause of social decay is a lack of tomboys.

>>510413879
>What I'm reading here is that the root cause of social decay is a lack of tomboys.
don't really have a serious answer to this, even if you meant it as a joke. Not really sure.
A tomboy isn't necessarily a woman who is conscious of logos, she could be merely just possessed by it or inflate it unconsciously - and if that's true, then tomboys wouldn't really solve the issue. And if it's false - then maybe they would

>>510414212
There might be something to be said about whether tomboys and FtM troons have misinterpreted a recognition of their masculine component

>>510414775
>whether tomboys and FtM troons have misinterpreted a recognition of their masculine component
i'd separate these 2 as two different Jungian or Hillmanian pathologies

tomboys are likely women who are possessed by or are inflating the masculine (in Jungian terms) - which implies they cling onto Logos as a "solution" in their life, because all other options betrayed them, or because they want to worship logic as a god (for whatever reason)

trannies though - specifically males who try to become females, is whom I would describe as "psychic frauds" who decided to skip integration or relation to the feminine, by just "becoming" it instead.
Every man needs to discover his inner feminine and build rapport with it, but they just dive into it skipping the ordeal of diplomacy between the masculine and feminine. This might be caused by extreme suppression of the feminine in their lives combined with under-developed masculine

>>510413807
I wonder if its related tothis

>>510411510 (OP)
fag

>>510416049
>Double X Chromo Disorder
Congenital retardation. Simple as

>>510411510 (OP)
Brooooooo… men and yang while women are yin. It’s literally that fucking simple. Go read Daoist shit.

>>510416630
>>510413510

>>510413510
make one for empathy

>>510413099
>and they are who need to change
women are incapable of change, this is what all of you need to understand. they respond only to circumstances

>>510413282
You’re not gonna find anyone on here with any good understanding of anything how the natural world works. I recommend going to /x/. But you’re saying some really good shit

>>510416883
this

what needs to change is the masculine, or rather, be re-forged. And ironically to achieve that, men need to stop projecting femininity onto women and re-discover the eternal feminine (anima) from within first. Women will adapt once that is done

>>510416980
exactly

>>510416049
My understanding for the short Y is because there are many useful genes that make for a good man; but good men die frequently. So many genes that create masculinity are carried on the X (and more are slowly being moved over by evolution). The remainder of the Y is just a patch that activates building a man's body and mind instead of a woman's. Note that if the testosterone receptor is broken, a woman's body gets made regardless of XX or XY.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Complete_androgen_insensitivity_syndrome

>>510411510 (OP)
You've never had a thought worth writing down and the world would be a better place if you and most other people were illiterate.

>>510416980
Men lead, women follow. Correct, but you see here. We are living in the Khali Yuga, where up is down and men are women and women are men. It’s not that simple. In fact, it is INCREDIBLY difficult to do any kind of inner work Because of the times we are in. So don’t hold your breath (or maybe you should) but it’s not going to change any time soon, at least in our lifetime.

But I have hope for women, or at least a handful of them. 2/3rds are the same exact copy of one another, the rest are okay but trash. You only have .0001% of women that can actually train but their training is different from men. Men need to expel yin and gather Yang while women need to expel yin almost COMPLETELY. Jung called it “the dark night of the soul” and if a woman doesn’t go through that, she CANNOT be trained in the esoteric arts. And even THEN she needs to be shielded in such a way as to not allow “friends” or other “influences” seep back into her. It’s difficult beyond reproach but it Is Possible. You just have to be INCREDIBLY LUCKY to even Find a girl like that to begin with but… funny how the universe has a way of doing things…

>>510412827
Women won't sleep with you for simping, poojeet singh
>>510417283
Kike, you're 95 iq at best. Kill yourself
>>510411510 (OP)
I'm a formless amalgamation of death and lies and I'm just going through the days. My face betrays no emotion and my existence is catatonic in essence

>>510417452
>Khali Yuga
Get the fuck back to the Raj Jeet.

Our earliest myth had Marduk kill Mother Nature with a spear and net, symbolising man's separation and masculinity, using artefacts to fight nature.

Man is separated from god, women are one step more separated from god; however, women are a step closer to nature. Don't forget that.

>>510419848
Not a jeet but it’s true. Whatever the fuck you wanna call this time we’re in, it’s inverses of what it’s supposed to be. Women have to be closer to nature because they birth children and children are of the earth until puberty. But since our elites want to kill us all, women have to work instead of rearing children. So now our women are fucked and they never even had a choice in the matter.

>>510417283
sneethe

>>510411510 (OP)
>It’s as if the feminine is outside the field of accountability.
Yet they they should be blamed correctly for everything.

>>510416980
>>510417027
nope.
we all just need to stop giving woman attention when they don't deservers it.

it's unironically all about that. this will solve everything.

>>510411510 (OP)
You're right. This is especially apparent on /pol/ where you can talk about literally any politically incorrect topic all day every day, but anti-female threads are regularly deleted or moved. Almost like the subject is -too- politically incorrect...

>>510411510 (OP)
This follows the fact that we're XY and they're XX.