I'm actually scared that we're all guaranteed an eternity of hell when we die. You can't prove I'm wrong.

>>510429894 (OP)
Why do you subscribe to a debunked anti-human jewish death cult?

>>510429894 (OP)
Maybe we're already there

>>510429894 (OP)
and you can't prove you're right
if an omniscient ultra-prescient creator entity has already known your fate and future, then fuck it
you were never in control in the first place. do whatever and be good to your fellow man (not niggers hopefully - sorry if that's the case)

>>510429894 (OP)
when god shows you heaven, that only means he wants you to be apart of his kingdom

and ive seen heaven 4 times and have the marks on my body to prove that im a chosen one

also, i have no feelings whatsoever to those who are going to hell, which is a lot of you

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hahhahhahahaha

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keekeke

>>510429894 (OP)
We’re already in hell

>>510429894 (OP)
Since the afterlife could be anything or nothing at all and everything in between. You have more of a chance at a neutral/good afterlife than nothing. 3 options, good, bad, neutral. 2 of the options are ok so you have a 66% chance of not having a bad afterlife.

>>510429894 (OP)
All religion is 100% fake. No exceptions.

>>510430059
You have to go back.

There are an infinite variety of possible hells in this life or another and there's no way to know what, if anything, you can do to avoid them.

>>510430129
Even eternal heaven is still hell. Anything eternal is by default hell.

>>510430025
based.

>>510429894 (OP)
The concept of eternal hell is anti-telos, anti-logos, anti-ethos, anti-justice and thus anti God.
It is semitic drivel created by men in frocks to coral you into their moronic cult and keep you there.
>>510430059
The quintessential yahwehcuck

>>510429894 (OP)
Hell exists, and there are many Hells. They are not eternal.

I have seen them myself.

>>510430165
nah

heaven and hell is real

heaven is a very big place, but sparsely populated

hell is also very big, but is over crowded

doing shitty things your whole life and saying "forgive me god" while on your death bed or even now wont do you any good

so if youre a shitty person now, just continue to be one until you die

>>510430236
Eternal heaven won't be hell so long as you are compelled to feel good, ie have no control over your own experience.

>>510429894 (OP)
My aryan instincts tell me God is real, so I think my best hope is to live virtuosly to avoid hell. Personally, I hope there is absolutely nothing after death. My heaven is non existence.

also, most blacks, browns, and women dont end up in heaven

>>510429894 (OP)

>>>/x/

>>510430381
Eternity by definition is hell. Doesn't matter how good you feel.

Hell exists. There are many levels in Hell, and many Hells, for other worlds and other beings, including higher beings. The torment in Hell is excruciating, and in truth indescribable... Dante's Inferno approximates the truth. It's worse than you can imagine. But Hell is not eternal.

I have seen this for myself.

>>510429894 (OP)
Hell is the second stage after death. It's not really hell though, it's perceived as hell because you're going to experience 1st hand how much you hurt everyone around you and indirectly in your life. All the nasty, corrupt, greedy shit people do in this life that fucks people over they will fully experience all that pain and suffering. This is what hell really is, it's a reflection of your own shit existence and what you did with it.

>>510429894 (OP)
No you’re not. You’re scared that *you’re* going to hell when you die. And if you’re scared you are, that means you probably are.

Hell is real, but only those who have seen it and come back will be able to say such things... humanity is not capable of accepting the horror, the mind, for its own protection, rejects it as impossible or trivializes it

Ive been to Hell and back. No I wont elaborate. Im ok, I can go there and leave. idk about the rest of you, probably not.

>>510429894 (OP)
>>510430062
We've always been born into a hell world. It's just when you are young you are evil and don't notice it. When you get older you realize how vile you were really acting.

The fear of God is the beginning of wisdom

You turn into a pea when you die
You can't prove me wrong
brilliant stuff

>>510430337
You know this how?

>>510429894 (OP)
I mean there's really no point in Hell even existing, considering it's eternal. There's no way you can ever "pay off" your sins, so it's not rehabilitation for sinners it's just masturbatory.
It's torture-porn for the living believers, so that when they hate somebody, they can comfort themselves by saying
>Well, that person will burn forever and be tortured by demons for eternity while I laugh and smile at it from up in Heaven, where I will obviously be
>because I'm such a good person

and obviously on a more surface level, the popular modern perception of "hell" isn't really biblical at all. Lakes of fire, demons, torture and torments, are all mostly from later authors who did it as a kind of entertainment. People loved hearing the Hellfire sermons, just like people love watching horror movies now.

None of that shit is actually real
And if it is, that just means God is evil - in which case you never had a chance either way

>>510430613
So for a lot of people who never really did anything too bad in their life it wouldn't be that bad.

>>510430918
when god recognizes you as one of his chosen ones, he shows you things

>>510431027
>entertaining grandiose self-centered delusions of being a "chosen one" with "special knowledge"
be careful anon, you're on a bad path

>>510430924
Contrary to eurocentric belief, Hell was not a Christian idea, nor is it merely an idea - Dante's Inferno (divinely inspired) bears a lot of resemblance to Pagan descriptions of Hell, especially the Mayan / Aztec descriptions...

>>510431090
and in those traditions it served the same purpose
to scare people into doing what the religion says is the "correct" thing to do
so you don't get punished in the afterlife

It's just a scam

>>510431069
eat shit faggot

you know nothing

also, i was never shown hell, only heaven

>>510431120
I died and saw it for myself. It's completely real.

>>510429894 (OP)
if you've already rejected God, i'm not obligated in convincing you

>>510431145
Got pretty hostile real quick there
>you know nothing
Right, that's my point, only YOU know the "real truth" right? Nobody else, just you, because you were chosen. Right?
That's obviously not true, and it's dangerous for you to continue to believe and lean into that delusion

>>510431148
And you can't prove it, so that means nothing to me

if you fuck a married person, you go to hell

theres no saving you, so just keep doing it

>>510430993
Well it would be minimized, but remember it's also indirect. So for someone like Bill Gates who probably fucked up probably billions of people, going through the second stage is hell the likes most can never imagine. It's like the cliche from Spider-man, with great power comes great responsibility. Well, the more damage they do to the world the worse their hell would be.

And here's the kicker. They're destroying the world right now for their greed and ego. When they fail the trials after death, they will be reincarnated into the same world they have made worse through their actions. It's fucking poetic. Can you even begin to imagine the fate of jews? They will experience hell like no other, and this world they are destroying they are trapped in until it ceases to exist.

>>510431230
I don't want to prove it to you. It doesn't matter if you believe in it or not. I didn't.

>>510429894 (OP)
It's not eternal fire, they say it's eternal death, meaning you die spiritually.

but that's a lie, cos there is far greater powers than them.

>>510431308
Well, what was it like? I obviously can't experience your experiences unless you actually describe them.

>>510430337
>it was real in my mind

>>510429894 (OP)
That's the oldest and the most foundational jewish trick.

>mfw when I die and the magic talking chairlift punish me for never rubbing spaghetti on my knees and so sentence me to 3 minutes of folding wet aluminium foil instead of being allowed to being reborn as a porous feldspar in the core of the star J0524-0336

you cannot be a bad person throughout your life, and at the end of it all, ask god for forgiveness

it doesnt work that way

everyone starts with the voice of god guilding you

when you ignore his words, he ignores you

>>510431027
Aka I made it up

>>510431243
If you simply looked at a woman with lust

You committed adultery and now going to hell

T. Rabbi Yeshua

>>510429894 (OP)
Are you a pedo? Have you killed? Have you defamed or denounced god or Christianity?

You may or may not be fine

>>510431243
I'd rather be in hell with my baltic polytheist brothers than in heaven with proto-jews like you.

>>510429894 (OP)
Its always telling how everyone starts talking about God or religion when it might have nothing to do with a bad form of recurrence after death. There may be perfectly material mechanisms that lead to some form of eternal torture, like David Lewis' "terrifying corollary" in Many Worlds. Some people even discuss this in rational circles, they call them hellish Everett branches.

>>510429894 (OP)
Actually, i can prove you wrong, but you are too retarded to understand.

>>510429894 (OP)
if something is unavoidable what is the point of worrying about it? your shit is dumb and gay.

>>510429894 (OP)
Oh, no doubt, this life & planet being so hellish already is testimony to the fact that maltheism is real.
The afterlife is gonna be so much worse than any of us can imagine or comprehend. It's not just gonna be this same type of body burning in fire the way we know burns to feel.
It's gonna be multidimensional, with exponentially more nerves so that even the most intensely excruciating pain known to man will pale in comparison.
Hope you're all ready!

>>510429894 (OP)
I have absolutely no doubt that there is no such thing as an afterlife.

i have seen heaven

ive been given telescopic sight

because of that, i know heaven is real

and i can never betray god

>>510430424
Your definition is illogical

>>510430236
>>510430424
its not tho. you're saying stupid things that arent true. you might think they true and state them as fact, but there is no basis.

>>510431335
I cannot describe it accurately. Nobody can. Torment. Suffering. Hellfire... like I said, the Inferno is an approximation: Hell is beyond mortal comprehension. I can say "Hellfire", but there is no Hellfire on Earth, so you cannot truly understand, no matter how much I try, it's behind the veil.

There's nothing like it on Earth, or even within the mortal imagination. It's far beyond that.

>>510430025
>if I am predictable, I cannot claim responsibility for myself
Irresponsible manchild's logic, fitting the rich dumb faggot you've posted

>>510429894 (OP)
Christianity is the easiest religion to avoid negative afterlife. Believe in Christ, regret your sins. That's all required for Salvation, which is absent in other religions that require specific actions for purifying sins/karma/whatever.

Putting aside the fact eternal torment is reserved for Stan, the anti-Christ, and false prophets

>>510431145
you're a dumb sissy queer LARPing.

most blacks, browns, and women end up in hell because they disobey god

we all know why most women end up in hell, but do you know why most blacks and browns dont?

>>510429894 (OP)
Na nothing last forever, so don't pay attention to what spirits and demons say, they don't have the final say, creator of the universe does.

>>510431762
most blacks and browns do*

>>510430424
Good news, if you do like eternity you can jump into the lake of fire, receive second death, and case with bothering us with your insufferable nonsense

Accept Jesus death and atonement for your sins. And then live the rest of your life, by doing your best to love God and be kind, loving and helpful to others. Both heaven and hell is real. The latter is max pain for trillions and trillions of years times infinity.

>>510430399
>My aryan instincts
>hides his flag
Bharap is not Aryan, saar.

eve (women) gave in to temptation, and because of that, most women end up in hell

>>510430059
I had a brief vision once of Heaven but it was kind of ineffable
It was kinda like pic related
I've only had visions a couple times in my life, but idk if it's just my mind playing tricks or what
The other vision I had was of green lillypads all sort of interconnected, and each lillypad was supposed to represent like a... Idk, like, a man is one lillypad, and if he has an offspring, then a new lillypad would connect from it, and that's basically ancestry, it was about ancestry and continuing the lillypad chain
I do believe visions and dreams can be interpreted, but I don't think I'm any good at it

>>510431697
You have to understand how I don't really find that compelling at all then, right?
>It's just the worst thing you can imagine but it's even worse, because you can't imagine it
>You just have to trust that I experienced it
OK?
And?
Are YOU starting a religion? Do you know how to avoid going to that place? Are you sure you didn't just have a hallucination that you can't explain? Are you certain it's a spiritual punishment?

Because all you're giving me is
>just trust me bro
>it's ULTRA bad

women behave the way they do because they are a reflection of eve, who was tempted by the devil

>>510431883
How can another person's death pay for my own sins?
Even if it could, is that really moral?

If I commit a crime, and someone goes to jail for me, am I now innocent?
Why are Christians so nonchalant about saying that a supposedly Perfect and Pure God/Man hybrid, being human-sacrificed, is somehow a good and moral resolution to the endless sins of humanity

Make it make sense

>>510429894 (OP)
The book of Enoch says that everyone hangs out in Sheol, both sinners and the righteous together, until the final judgement.

>>510431976
It doesn't matter if you believe me or not. At all. I'm not trying to convince you.

>>510432123
OK well good luck with whatever you're doing then

>>510429894 (OP)
Only based people go to hell

>>510432152
Telling people the truth they don't want to hear. It's not going well

I dreamt of the void the other night, nothing but darkness and voices. Pretty sure I'll end up in some kind of purgatory, I was kind of a dick.

>>510432027
Oy vey

Stop being anti semetic and worship the rabbi

I am confident in Heaven. I actually believe in God. No joke, I'm serious. I 100% believe in the Almighty God.

>>510432258
well yeah if you already know they don't want to hear it that just follows logically

>>510429894 (OP)
>eternity
That wouldn't be justice since no one has eternally caused suffering for another. People, especially those who do not wish to become better, will get their just deserts and that'll be that.

>>510432334
Ari why is my succubus picking your image to day after day come and have sex with me in my dreams? Do you want to tell me something?

>>510431400
no

thats not how it works

only when you fuck a married person, because by doing so, youre actively engaging in breaking a sacred bond shared between two people

>>510432433
see what I mean by how arrogant you are? Anon is quoting Christ himself, who emphasized that even the smallest sin is as egregious as any other in the eyes of God

and here you come
>no no I'm the chosen one
>It's only about married people
nigga who the fuck are you compared to Jesus Christ

>>510432433
... to clarify, during the judgement, absolutely everything you've ever done, including everything you've ever thought, is judged. This includes lust.

You know the old saying
Damned if you do, damned if you don't.

hell is other people (by extension also heaven)

perhaps the afterlife is to live with people that are just like you, making it either very pleasant OR a terrible place.

>>510432523
so we all leave eachother alone and only interact online or in person when it's absolutely necessary?
sounds great where do I sign up

>>510432507
theres nothing wrong with looking

you have eyes, use them

>>510429894 (OP)
you can't prove yourself right

when you ignore the voice of god, god ignores you

its that simple

bye

>>510429894 (OP)
Yeah well I think the afterlife is a cool isekai fantasy. You can't prove I'm wrong.

>>510432675
>t. man who just ignored the voice of God and said he knew better than Jesus Christ
that's right, run away

>>510429894 (OP)
That concept seems so fucking retarded i wouldnt worry one bit. Flying around the universe looking at cool shit seems way more likely to me

>>510432604
during the judgement, you don't get to argue: it's not up to you

>>510432783
>can't even plead your case
cool

>>510432805
there is no case to be plead, divinity does not err in its judgement. it is perfect, there is no appeal to anything higher

>>510430399
>My aryan instincts
What a laughably gay ass larp

>>510431700
the dogma of judeochristian values dictates that an all-seeing creator set your path and knew your stride before you even knew how to walk - the logic dictates that whatever you do is already predetermined and your morality is at best an illusion of choice
do i believe that literally? no, not really, but that's what the holy scripture says pierogi-anon

>>510431700
>polanoid chigger golem
>complete and utter lack of reading comprehension
Checks out. He didn't say anything abput predictability, he said yiu're already the way theb jewish god made you so you might as well just do whatever.

>>510432258
>jewbook schizobabble
>the truth
lol. LMAO even.

No.

>>510433017
erroneous interpretation of theology; Fate is the outcome of Free Will, as effect follows cause. It's more like God creates situations, the being then chooses its own path through a maze.

>>510433240
The maze exists so that we may experience being, struggle, and earn what we merit

At least one person made it to heaven

>>510433240
>divinity does not err in its judgement. it is perfect, there is no appeal to anything higher
>It's more like God creates situations, the being then chooses its own path through a maze.

"Omniscience, in this context, means that God possesses complete and infinite knowledge of all things, past, present, and future."
>Fate is the outcome of Free Will
either the big man is or is-not all-knowing, and if he is not all-knowing, then his judgment cannot be perfect
there's too many little paradox bullshit things like this in the mixture for judeochristianity to be one way or the other - it's strictly binary.