What motivates someone to be a public school teacher? Are they actually so brainwashed they think they are helping children and youth grow intellectually?

>>510432092 (OP)
Low aspirations, limited ability, seeking government pension.

>>510432092 (OP)
It's very telling that /pol/'s common topics of hate are people/professions that are in positions of minor authority. Nurses, teachers, parents. I think nearly every one of these threads is just an outpouring of anger into the abyss.
Did you have a mean teacher? Why haven't you gotten over it yet?

Most teachers are just people who enjoyed the school environment and decided they never want to leave.
Some just really like being around kids.

It certainly isn't the money.

>>510432092 (OP)
I worked part time at uni during my studies and loved it. I love teaching. I'm in IT now and it obviously pays better, but would love to teach if there was money in it.

>>510432252
Great argument, you seem to have a lot of knowledge of logic.

>>510432375
I said public school, not university, learn to read.

>>510432598
thanks

>>510432092 (OP)
it's an npc job

They're just humans surviving eachother in this somewhat human world!

>>510432092 (OP)
it seems kind of fun if you live in a nice area without crazy nigger kids. And not that hard

Also:
June, July and August

>>510432092 (OP)
they're all gigagolems and deep down pedos
concentration camp staff had purer heart

>>510432092 (OP)
The virgin Garrison Vs chad Harris

>>510432598
And I wouldn't mind to teach at a public school if there was money in it. No need to be a hard-ass.

>>510432092 (OP)
Unemployment. Nobody I know actually wanted to do it. Oh, and it's next to impossible to have full working hours in just one school. Those lucky enough to work are forced to drive all across the country just to teach a few classes.

>>510432156
By and large,teachers are not smart people. 105 IQ tops, barely sentient. Just smart enough to parrot what they were taught to provide rote instruction to others.They're basically people who should be doing manual labor, but were able to use what little brains they do have to convince people they were smart long enough to get a piece paper that says they can babysit your child for the state. Not surprising that a lot of school teachers are kikes. There are exceptions of course, I had some brilliant teachers, but they were the exception. And they were always swimming upstream against a retarded school administration. They were usually good natured autistics that actually really liked and were true experts in the subject they taught. They were able to teach it with a child like enthusiasm to get you to appreciate the subject as well. All teachers should be like that though, if you don't love your subject enough to get a bunch of kids to like it, you shouldn't be a teacher.

>>510432092 (OP)
It's easy money for goofing around.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yFY8iORdC6M

>>510432092 (OP)
Free taxpayer money, the ability to indoctrinate an entire society, a position of authority to do whatever they want.

>>510432252
I remember my classmate gave our English teacher some homemade cookies and the English teacher let him pass the class. That was an incredibly valuable lesson. Bribery can be a viable strategy for accomplishing goals.

>>510432948
ask yourself what AI alignment is
they are all alignment exams because the real purpose is to turn you into a golem tax paying women cuck slave
everytime you look it's always a caste simulator
RUN

>>510433100
That was your first lesson in how government works, it's not about how competent you are, it's not about what you produce, it's not about kindness. It's about lying and stealing as much as you can and being a suck up snake to screw everyone else over.

>>510432677
They're just goy npcs who need an easy job for them to feed their goy families pretty simple

>>510432935
It's funny how many girls I went to university with ended up defaulting to being public middle school teachers after not being able to do anything with their degrees.
Marine Biology -> Middle School Teacher
Wildlife Management -> Middle School Teacher
Criminal Justice -> Middle School Teacher
Anthropology -> Middle School Teacher
If they were teaching classes that had something to do with their degrees, at least that would make some sense, but at best they end up teaching general science. Still, probably better teachers than those who received teaching degrees.

>>510433237
Yeah I think you're right
It kinda blew my mind because I always thought of bribery as a cartoonish concept that never works, but it actually can work

>>510432092 (OP)
I became one because I graduated college in 2008 when no one else was hiring.

Saw it as a stable respectable career with good hours and summers off.

It was hell on earth. I still have nightmares of being a teacher.

>>510433340
what was so bad about it? where did you teach?

>>510433320
My friend who finished language and history was teaching physics in elementary. Now she's a kindergarten teacher. Academia isn't hiring at all. We are made to be manual laborers or nannies. You can be a world-class student, but there won't be place for you in lecturing or research.

>>510433323
Kek it's so funny because thats probably what they taught you in government school, "bribery never works! you must always be honest with the government because they care about you so much and they love you!" etc, go to any Eastern European country you can bribe your way out of a speeding ticket like buying a soda. It's more sophisticated in the west, you either buy a politician through lobbying or you work for a government department and you bribe people through loyalty, like giving someone a promotion who always sucks up to you, or firing someone who disagrees with you and threatens your power. Everything you are taught in government school is a carefully designed lie to make you enjoy paying taxes.

>>510433100
I bribed my college art elective professor with a bottle of wine because I was too depressed to write my final paper. It was the last class I ever took and I passed.

>>510432092 (OP)
Brainwashing and Control. Most public school teachers I had were petty tyrants, who wanted a captive audience to preach their disgusting liberal leftist progressive politics to. And to punish severely the kids who rejected and resisted their evil progressive politics.

>>510433593
Based

>>510433478
You can get a good job through government education, but you must follow their rules, rule 1 never question them, anything they say is an absolute truth to be treated like the word of god, rule 2 give them compliments and always say how smart they are etc. This is true even in higher education. This never works in the long term though, so i suggest anyone who has been successful ldoing this to parasite as much as they can before the bubble collapses.

>>510433630
There are right wingers in public school too, you can push whatever you believe in, and punish those who don't accept it, as long as you always always always strengthen support of the state and taxation.

>>510433672
I kinda think it's based but I'm also very ashamed of it. She was a cutie, though.

>>510433761
Bullshit advice. If you've managed to sit through 17 years of government education, it means you're compliant. It's just that there are so few white collar jobs in shithole countries such as mine and they're reseved for nepo babies. The thing is you need a MA to even be considered for any office or government job. Trust me, you don't want to work in private (wageslave) sector because you'll have to work like 4 people.

>>510433404
I taught in Oakland California.

I still remember the obnoxious niggers in my classroom. De'Vante, Keaira, Deondrey. Holy fuck they would never shut up, never listen, never follow directions, and respected absolutely no one. I watch police videos of belligerent teens and its exactly the shit I would deal with in my classroom every day.

The niggers were the worst but equally as bad were the students of other teachers - especially if they were an only child. These were kids who were enabled by their parents every step of their life. Lawnmower parents. They would get a 504 plan for "anxiety" which would allow them to be on their phone in class, listen to music, take tests home, turn in assignments whenever they wanted to. These parents would write 5 paragraph emails gaslighting you if you held their child to any accountability. Always went straight to the manager (principal) too.

Teachers deserve zero respect. The person who said 105 IQ is correct. My entire hallway was divorced women. They hate men/boys. They were rejected in school and went into teaching so they can have power over males. They punish boys. I taught the accelerated classes and my lowest 15 students were all girls because the fat single 50 year old teacher in the prior grade level wouldnt recommend the boys who passed the state test to the accelerated class, but recommended dozens of girls to the class that failed the test.

Once these women get tired of bullying the boys they become principals and bully the male teachers. Ask any male teacher and they will tell you that they get the worst kids in the school, because a female admin believes they need a "strong male influence since they don't have one at home".

I was a very good teacher. I still have letters from students who went to top schools - Stanford, Harvard, MIT, telling me so. But I also keep the write ups from the fat single female admin, the emails from the mothers saying the nastiest shit about me. Those keep me away.

>>510434362
That was what i said, if you want to be successful in the government sector, be compliant.

>>510432092 (OP)
It's actually quite satisfying if you have white and/or asian students.

>>510432318
>It certainly isn't the money.
In some states they are grossly overpaid, while in others they make less than garbage men. The states where they are paid a lot usually have powerful teacher's unions that make it nearly impossible to get your teaching credentials. One trick they love to use is that teachers with more "seniority" get first choice for open teaching positions. That way all new teachers are virtually guaranteed to be stuck in shitskin hellscapes for at least 10 years before they can choose a better (white) teaching assignment.

>>510434414
I'm not a teacher but I grew up in Maryland in a 95% white area and I think it would've been fun to be my teachers. Our classrooms were nowhere near as bad as the videos of Chicago public schools and shit that I see online that's probably more like your experience.
Kids laughed at offensive edgy jokes and threw paper balls, some pranks etc. But no nigger violence or disrespect (well not nearly that much).
Maybe that was just an early 2000s thing and after that teaching sucked more and more

>>510432156
This.

>>510432296
In secondary school this is sometimes true. In primary school it generally isn’t.

>>510432156
and yet without them society collapses, funny

>>510432598
Shut the fuck up, OP.

>>510436962
Kek good joke. how much is your state pension?

>>510434414
Yeah I can't really respect anyone who endures twelve years of contemporary American public schooling and then turns around does four years of additional education so they can inflict it on someone else.

I saw a lot of the same bias as a student but it was all skewed towards the upper middle class kids who's parents had time and money for the kid to participate in whatever extracurricular the teachers coached or were interested in when they were in high school. Whether it was playing football or you and your friends had some shitty garage band or you were a "punk" like the idiot boomer art teacher was back in the 60s or something, as long as you had the freshest style and lots of friends you'd get the benefit of the doubt from the school admin every time. Pathetic servile losers fawning over stories of high school parties on the weekend with a wistful sigh.

As a student I thought it was a bit weird, as an adult in retrospect, goddamn those people were fucking dysfunctional. Like forget about the students they're fucking over, these people are killing themselves with emotional stagnation.

>>510432092 (OP)

Studied teaching, worked as a teacher for a few years and mostly bailed. Hated too much of what i was expected to do, schools are bullshit. If you were only ever a student you dont even know how bullshit they are. If i could get funding parity with a public school and work independently i could outperform them in my sleep.

What initially drew me to it was just the cheesy stuff thats true about kids. If you have the patience for it, theyre amazing to be around, funny, kind, they notice things youve stopped paying attention to, highly imaginative. If youre an imaginative adult, they can be more relateable than a lot of adults. And if you have the inclination, it feels incredible to teach child something, to watch them develop. The impulse to teach is not dissimilar from the impulse to parent except youre trying to make it your profession also.

Every thread about schools should include a recommendation to read “Dumbing Us Down” by john taylor gatto.

>>510436988
Great argument, you seem to have a lot of knowledge of logic.

>>510432092 (OP)
>pension
>half days
>snow days
>2 weeks off winter break
>1 week off spring break
>3 months off summer vacation
Add to that the pay isn't that bad depending on the state. Even if it is just 50k that is 50k for basically a part time job when you figure in the time off.

>>510440812
>imaginative
so let's kill that amirite sounds fun
>watch them develop
develop what, autism?
>john taylor gatto
I read something by him many years ago, if I remember correctly I got the impression he was a faggot, like he only pretended to care about his audience, but secretly was actually for everything he pretended to be against, something like that

access to children.

>>510433478
I got my PhD in education and it's like that. The first job I got when I graduated was a substitute teacher. schools weren't interested in hiring me. Luckily I got a job where I'm only teaching a little, but I'm leaving this field soon. Since COVID I have no faith in society anymore.

>>510441742
Sorry, man. Must be horrible leaving your field. I never entered mine. I'm thinking about staying unemployed forever just to spite everyone.

>>510432092 (OP)
Some people never leave the school system.