yes or no? explain your answer, faggots. Also seems like just about every single faggot loves this stuff so thats not a goood sign but surely there are SOME people out there able to keep a decent life together on it.... or no?

>>510438174 (OP)
is that meth??
its trailer trash high, i prefer smoother stims like speed or something that let me be productive instead of a coked up nigger

>>510438174 (OP)
>but surely there are SOME people out there able to keep a decent life together on it.... or no?
N-O. Retard.
It's a stimulant that keeps people awake until they have a psychotic break but they also feel chemical euphoria, so they don't understand how fucked up they're acting or thinking.

It's aryan as fuck. All I'm going to say.

>>510438322
Speed is meth

>>510438405
>>510438174 (OP)
Real meth is gone, now all you have is the shitty isometh that wires you up, without any euphoric effects.

>>510438174 (OP)
Yes.
100% yes.
Stay the fuck away from that stuff, I couldn't be more serious.

We don't have a fentanyl problem but meth is a huge problem here. I've never met anyone who can "handle" it and everyone thinks they can. It just destroys people. I was lucky I saw my mates get fucked up on it and didn't want to be a part of it.

Feels really good tho. For a few hours, then really bad for a few days. You can theoretically do it like a party drug but in reality everyone who I've seen smoke it more than a few times ends up smoking it on Monday nights and selling it to support their habit.

>>510438174 (OP)
there will always be outliers - but in general this stuff destroys your mind and body. most people cannot take drugs "responsibly".

>>510438439
White trash subhuman

>>510438174 (OP)
Crystals were historically used to transmit power.
They are like wifi signal repeaters of the same frequency.
Our previous more advanced civilizations had achieved Free Energy status, one of them used crystals.
>they also used gold as one of the most easily molded conductive metal

>we use gold today in electronics and better electrical conductivity
>we use crystals in tech today in the same way

>>510438450
amphetamines, i dont know how niggers call that in america.
meth is meth
anphetamines are amphetamines

A drug is just a tool, and like any tool you need to know how to use it properly; not like some degenerate faggot who's on it every weekend to keep his 48 hour arse buggering sessions going.

>>510438646
>Crystals in Technology: From Quartz Watches to Silicon Chips
https://crystalstones.com/crystals-technology/

>Crystals Used In Modern Technology – What You Didn’t Know
https://polvortexwater.com/blog/how-crystals-are-being-used-in-modern-technology/

>Exploring the Role of Crystals in Technology: Growth, Processing, and Applications
https://www.albmaterials.com/content/25-exploring-the-role-of-crystals-in-technology-growth-processing-and-applications

>10 MODERN TECHNOLOGIES YOU HAD NO IDEA WERE MADE POSSIBLE BY CRYSTALS
https://www.evolvehealing.net/post/10-modern-technologies-you-had-no-idea-were-made-possible-by-crystals

>>510438174 (OP)

I used it for a few months for trying to become productive.
It's not great. It fucks up your sleep and you lose more productivity from not sleeping a night than you gain by having fun with rote tasks for a few hours.

It's also hard not to redose, because the meth does take you quite high up in terms of euphoria.
It beats the SHIT out of your heart and blood pressure. You can feel the fainting, the stroke, the heart attack nearby.

Overall, it's not a good instrument. Unfortunately. Because God knows we need a pickup. But straight shard just isn't effective.

>>510438713
> every weekend

amateur

>>510438869
>The Crystal Clear Role of Crystals in the Semiconductor Industry
https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/crystal-clear-role-crystals-semiconductor-industry-dr-manikandan-v

>>510438668
I feel like there's a language barrier issue here, anon.

Meth is short for "methamphetamine." It is a type of amphetamine, unless there's some other drug that junkies in your country have started calling meth.

>>510438668
Ah fair enough. Europeans also refer to amphetamine as speed. Ive only tried adderall (amphetamine), and I prefer it to coke. Never tried meth but I think I'd like it too

>>510438174 (OP)
everyone I know who took it seriously fucked up their lives beyond repair. simple as that.
most can stop after realizing how fucked up it is to run 2-3 days nonstop and then 2 days of coma like hangover, those who embrace it are fucked.
faggots love it because it makes you horny x100

>>510438322
>a thread questioning a media narrative
>answers the question by repeating the default media narrative
I am so tired of retards everywhere I go. I can't go a single day without encountering a fucking retard. The first thing I read to start my day and it's a fucking retard.

>hurrr durrr, you must be a meth guy!
no, it's called a discussion. how do we mass cull retards? these people ruin absolutely everything. they even manage to ruin random discussions on basket weaving forums.

>hurr durr, you're so mad 'n shit
nigger

>>510439004
fags call it gay crack and it doesnt make my dick hard even with a fag sucking it

>>510438668
Largely same shit. It's not like amphetamines have a manageable comedown or health side effects.

>>510438580
>>510438631

This. It's just not realistic to try and use it in a controlled way. If you could, your life wouldn't require stims in the first place.

>>510439065
Abusing adderall made me fap for hours, I can see why meth would be popular for fags. I'd just get a female hooker tho

and im a hapa that loves white guys sucking my dick but on meth its limp even with them sucking it

>>510439065
well, thats gay.

>>510439161
ive tried addies a few times but never got horny on it either, only weed or sober gets my dick hard with white dudes

>>510438174 (OP)
You should try some and report back.

>>510438174 (OP)
This stuff will turn you into a lab rat at the feeder bar. Your personal willpower is not stronger than meth.

I have done it one time, and it was awesome, but I am supremely glad that I don't know anyone who does it and I don't have easy access to it. Like the other anon said, more than a few times and you're pretty much on the path to ruin.

>>510438174 (OP)
I used small doses of meth to get through a semester in uni. 5 mg of that stuff and I get laser focus for 6 hours.

>>510438450
No. Meth is methamphetamine. Speed is just amphetamine. It's like the difference between crack and cocaine.

>>510439421
pedantic

>>510438450
ignorant

A match made in heaven

>>510438174 (OP)
>>510438439
>>510438631
>>510438478
The meth being produced now typically uses a cheaper production method, with the schizophrenia-inducing enantiomer (term describing molecular configuration) being predominant.
If you don't cook it yourself, or know how to test the isomeric ratio's, you're in for a bad time sooner, rather than later, as it was with meth classic.

>>510439421
ive done speed too and it doesnt make me horny just talkative like coke

>>510439507
You're speaking from bullshit. The shit made now is weak compared to the shit that was made even as recently to 2022. The cartel has cut back on the strength because too many tweakers were wigging out too much. To compare it to smokes, the meth these days is like a marlboro light, but back in the day, it was a marlboro red.

>>510439421
That's a euro designation. Speed is meth in the Americas and Asia

>>510439631
asians must be wired for downers because weed is the only thing that gets my asshole even feeling like i want dick, complete opposite of white dudes apparently

I have given you all the seed bearing plants and herbs to use
Alcohol and antipsychotics, both legal and both far more damaging but it is what it is

>>510439507
>>510439607
I thought it was mostly pure d-meth being made nowadays.

>>510438713
>48 hour arse buggering sessions

LOL amateur

>>510439607
Schizophrenia-inducing doesn't mean better

>>510438174 (OP)
I was an early '90s raver, DJ, and promoter. I've watched meth destroy so many people. You'll try it and at first you'll think oh this is fun cuz you'll dance or fuck all night. As you keep doing it you'll tell yourself that it keeps you acutely aware and you're able to focus while you're on it. The reality is that within weeks of even casual use you will lose any benefit you were getting and your brain will be rewired and all you would think about is meth. Fast forward 10 to 20 years and you're either dead or you wish you were. In my Rave scene there was a DJ named Nick Kick. Once he was to really hooked on meth he started this rave organization called The order of the trance. This eventually revealed itself to be his little cult of kids that he got hooked on meth because he convinced them that they would have precise focus and create a community together. Every single person that I know that signed on to that idiots false dogma are either dead or living in a car with no teeth, nearly 30 people that I can think of offhand.

>>510439796
I can't find the damn study.
Basically, it indicated the l isomer attenuated some of the negative effects.

>>510439607
>FBI glowie

>>510439167
Jacob?

>>510438580
What this guy said

Meth will make your life an incomprehensible hell

Literally any other drug is better

>>510440616
>Chlorpromazine is better than meth
lmao

>>510440287
>over 30 people ruined their life with at the behest a literal who DJ named Nick Kick
Over my lifetime I've realized there's no fucking way people were ever hunting mammoths, chucking spears, surviving in caves against apex predators, etc. No fucking way. Humans are the most helpless prey species that ever walked the earth.

>>510438174 (OP)
Shove it up your ass and find out.

No less then a gram

>>510440804
*ruined their lives with meth

>>510440704
I wouldnt touch ssris or antipsychotics with a 10ft pole either

I mean in terms of narcotics

And yeah, alcohol is less damaging than meth. Are you an addict per chance?

it's an actual neurotoxin so using it pokes holes in your brain

>>510438174 (OP)
Drugs are bad. Stop taking your medications

>>510440336
False
The BMK method that produces a ~50/50 mix is what has been blamed for the schizo-inducing effect

>>510439029
Maybe people agree with the media?

>>510439507
>>510439607
>>510439796
>>510440336
I remember that stuff. The meth heads started hallucinating and acting crazy when they switched over from that old ephedrine based meth to the new D meth they cook up with the farm tanks. That shit is super retarded. They need to legalize drugs because this has got to the point of beyond ridiculous. Cocaine and opiates and marijuana weren’t anywhere near as bad as this stuff and the only reason meth is so popular is because all of the real drugs have been cracked down on and meth is easy to produce same as fentanyl.


Just legalize the naturals already.

>>510440879
What is that? Never heard of it. The Dmeth is the one they use the big ammonia farm tanks isn’t it? Is this stuff you are talking some new method?

>>510438668
>>510439421
In america, speed = meth

>>510438174 (OP)
Yes.
Stay the fuck away from all hard drugs if you value your life. I could not be any more serious. Heroin, meth, speed, coke, MDMA, fent. Do not touch any of it.

I’m not going to elaborate much and you can choose not to believe me if you wish, but I have lost many friends and family to hard drugs and by lost I mean dead. I have seen countless more have their lives utterly ruined, financially, health wise and quality of life wise.

If you know what’s good for you, stay the fuck away from this shit.
Want to get hammered? Have some beers, some vodka and maybe a joint or two. Do a small amount of shrooms if you’re feeling extra adventurous,

Stay the fuck away from any artificially synthesised illegal drugs. Period.

Methamphetamine is neurotoxic. It will do serious harm to your mind and body. I recommend avoiding all intoxicants, including drugs and alcohol. A cup of coffee or tea will actually improve your brain function if used in moderation.

>>510440844
Straightedge is based.
I've never met a person on either recreational, or antidepressant, drugs who wasn't worse off from it in the long run.
Won't comment on anti-psychotics except that they have horrible side effects and are over-prescribed.

>>510441089
I’ve watched junkies heal up from every other drug, crack, heroin, you name it. But the meth does appear to leave them retarded even when they quit. I met one woman who had quit for years and she still talked super fast like she was twacked out.

>>510438174 (OP)
If you like the idea of inhaling some random shit a crack addict cooked in his stained black, cracked bathroom hotel sink then by all means, go to your street corner and pay a jacked up price for some garbage cut with bicarb soda that a street level dealer wiped his ass with and smoke away until you’re fucking dead

>>510440287

Respect to DJ Nick Kick

>IT WONT HAPPEN TO ME
>IT WONT HAPPEN TO ME
>IT WONT HAPPEN TO ME
>THATS WHAT THEY ALWAYS FUCKIN SAY

>>510441129
I’ve known people that had amazing lives and were heavy drug users. Lives that would make you jealous if you knew. Extremely intelligent successful people typically aren’t going to broadcast their drug use and can moderate it so that it doesn’t draw attention. What happens is you end up noticing the stupid ones that act like buffoons once they are high.

>>510440844
I don't touch drugs. Addiction to drugs is pretty difficult to avoid re. Caffeine, even oxytocin from pair bonding could be considered a drug. I have experimented in the past and informed for myself. Alcohol is far worse compared tobmeth because of risk of death after prolonged use, meth just causes a variety a damage, which is worse ? I won't judge but I have friends who have recovered from prolonged meth use with sleep diet and exercise programming. My friends who are alcoholics both habitual and recovering, not so good. I agree, SSRIs and neuroleptics into the trash tier

>>510438174 (OP)
literally, everyone I know who has tried it ruined their lives in a multitude of ways.
it's an absolute No from me. so many highschool associates that are, if not dead, are so homeless and ugly and mentally gone, it could make me cry.

>>510441241
Extremely intelligent people typically aren’t going to consume hard drugs

>>510441241
Its called the state of Alaska and basically all the business owners are high as fuck on something

>>510438174 (OP)
A small daily dose provided by a doctor? Fine, maybe even helpful. Actually smoking random meth? Think ADHD meds times 1000. Have fun being up for days at undergoing psychosis and instantly frying yout dopamine receptors. Flip side, if you've ever done E from the street, it's been pressed with meth. Digesting it is way different.

>>510438668
and stupido is stupid

Shake and Bake

Justin Bieber is off the meth too

>>510440950
Ammonia and pseudoephedrine is the "clean" method that yields almost entirely D-isomer.

The BMK method is becoming preferred for industrial scale production, according to the government info. That yields the racemic ~50/50 misture of D and L isomers

Read about this topic a few years ago when I was taking chemistry classes and trying to remember and correctly explain it on no sleep last night. (coffee)

It's great but people can't handle it. People can barely handle adderall.

>>510440804
>Over my lifetime I've realized there's no fucking way people were ever hunting mammoths, chucking spears, surviving in caves against apex predators, etc. No fucking way. Humans are the most helpless prey species that ever walked the earth.
You're looking at it from the wrong way around around. It's that precise "follow the leader" mechanism that made thirty primitive humans follow some literal who tribal chieftain out into the wilderness to go kill a mammoth.

In ancient time there was no meth, so they built Stonehenge instead.

>>510441241
I can't speak for meth, but don't know anyone who remained extremely successful after using fent for more than a couple years.
And I know people who found extreme success again after quitting and getting their shit back together who freely admitted it after the fact.

>>510438174 (OP)
Meth is bad shit. It lasts 24 hours so you can end up going sleepless for days. Its just too strong. Felt amazing the first time then it felt like shit after.

>>510440892
Current meth is so bad it made me quit meth addiction, there was simply no point in taking it.

>>510438174 (OP)
I have two decades of drug experience. Meth is too powerful for the human mind to enjoy safely. Stick with Adderall or Modafinil and supplement stacking for the speediest you can get without shortening your lifespan.
I've done meth about 5 times insufflated. Very powerful in small doses, but also extremely dirty. I felt my viscera being poisoned. I'll never do it again.
For every businessman who has the discipline to simply throw a few specks of meth in his coffee for a boost, there are thousands of strokes, heart attacks, psychotic episodes, and suicides from it.
It simply cannot probabilistically be done safely. Avoid.

really liked speed, until i puked next to a supermarket and all came out was white paste. Had a nice 6 months tho

>>510439507
I'm more of a Meth Legacy player myself.

>>510441308
You would be surprised. Amphetamine abuse is very popular with alot of smart people due to its performance enhancement. Though its normally Adderall

>>510438174 (OP)
Yes, the only people I know that smoke meth fucked themselves up so bad they can't hold down jobs. My cousin has been smoking meth for 20 years and he has crazy psychotic breaks and is constantly fired from his low wage jobs.

>>510441799
Is there even any Adderall in the Balkans?

>>510441241
>I’ve known people that had amazing lives and were heavy drug users. Lives that would make you jealous if you knew.
There's always this guy that shows up in these threads talking about the legendary secret society of thriving drug users.

>>510440287
To be fair, all the red flags were there:

"Hello, I am Nick Kick. Join my Order of the Trance. Our Communion is Methamphetamine."

>>510438174 (OP)
meth is seriously really bad

if you want to be a functional tweaker just do adderall like everyone else. meth is different. it's kind of the same until someone is 4 days into not sleeping on it and enters actual psychosis and someone gets killed, maimed. it happens often. it's uniquely addictive.

bad shit bro.

>>510442326
No, I should have said amphetamines.

>>510438174 (OP)
DO NOT. THAT'S THE DEVIL.

>>510442326
I think there was a global shortage for a while

>>510442306
Adderall idc about

>>510441129
>>510441241
>>510442383
I've known a lot of people who are functioning drug users.

A few coke benders in your lifetime, smoking weed here and there, molly at raves, addy here and there and socially drinking isn't going to fuck your life up.

If you're doing anything harder than weed daily you're fucked, but most of society has a healthy relationship with psychoactive substances. The more well adjusted people I know have an occasional dabble in psychedelics.

>>510442440
>>510442613

You're fucking stupid and don't know what you're talking about.

>>510441241
When I was in college one of my opiate dealers told me he had to cut off an older client and the guy lost his job, got divorced and lost his kids. If you can moderate your usage you might be okay but it's too hard to balance on a razors edge, something in your life goes wrong and you'll binge and fall deeper into addiction until things fall apart.

>>510442687
I have done a marijuana or two and can assure you I'm fine.

If you grew up in Appalachia like I did, you’ve seen meth and heroin ruin the lives of everyone who touched the stuff.

Speaking of absolutely terrible drugs, has anyone ITT tried or know anyone who's tried datura? It seems genuinely awful.
>possibility for nerve damage
>hard if not impossible to dose correctly
>easier to get a hold of compared to most drugs (for some people who have it growing in their granny's greenhouse) even though it is incredibly potent
I've never seen a positive trip report when pic related is involved, they're all horrible at the very best bad leaning towards neutral.

>>510442521
There is still a supply chain issue here. We have an abundance of drugs no one wants and a shortage of drugs more than a few people need- whom are missing out. The politics behind this is corrupt as all fuck

>>510438174 (OP)
Been pretty universal in it destroying lives in my experience.
The thing I rarely see mentioned though is a staggeringly high percentage of people who start using it are usually being worked into the ground by a job with a shitton of mandatory overtime or academics with an overstuffed schedule. It's been labelled a "white trash drug" and those types absolutely use it, however, it has been people who were just burning the candle at both ends and need something to push them through that usually start that shit in my experience.

I'm in ground zero formeth distribution.

So I have tried it 10 times. Each time it sucked i will never try it again.

I know one guy, and meth is his life, and he is healthier than me. I know a lot of them. Many of them seem fine. I also dont see the melted faces like the pictures say.

I'd rather have 4MMC. That shit is banging.

>>510442808
I've read some trip reports and it seems like one of the extremely dangerous ones.

Unpleasant, can kill you if you dose it wrong cuz it's tiny seeds, extremely fucking unpleasant and horrific. Weird, dark, shamanic shit with everyone reporting smoking phantom cigarettes, people who aren't real being there, dangerous choices.

It made for an interesting read but people who do shit like this and benadryl are scary.

>>510442613
I have 6 grams of coke in a box in front of me that I haven't touched in like 7 months. I actually don't really like it but it can be an enjoyable party drug under the right circumstances. Same with molly. I've never touched meth though and I never will and I won't do heroin because I've already gotten clean off it 13 years ago.

>>510442306
anecdotally amphetamines made the 24 hour online chess marathon i completed so easy i opted for 48. it was absolutely insane how it injected me with an extra ~300 elo that i then subsequently instantly lost when sober.

>>510443023
It is a little alluring because I'm curious how bad it can really be (or rather how severe the hallucinations/psychosis can be) but I've had a handful of bad trips on acid so I know that when shit goes wrong it really, really, really isn't enjoyable, and knowing that can be so much worse (plus the risk of nerve damage) has kept me from ever trying it. Looks pretty awful though, judging by this replication.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZ3MS5itfmE

>>510438174 (OP)
go ask the homeless guy standing in the road all day.
>>510439029
>I am so tired of retards everywhere I go. I can't go a single day without encountering a fucking retard.
i find myself saying this all the time. typically at my windshield as i'm driving, but you get the idea.

>>510438174 (OP)
if you even have to ask this you are a nigger

>>510443133
I'm with you and so is everyone else I know, they all say coke is fun but kind of shitty. I really don't know how it got the reputation it did. Maybe for life long users, but I find I can leave it where it is. Molly I really love a little too much though, because apparently it can make you retarded.

>>510443227
Part of me is extremely curious about the boundaries that certain brave psychonauts have pushed. If I had a guarantee I wouldn't die or ruin my life I'd try a lot of things, but "lmao I'd do it if I didn't risk anything" doesn't cut it.

>>510442613
It's not that occasional use will necessarily fuck your life up.
It's that it really isn't necessary to ever do hard drugs, psychiatric meds, or even caffeine.
I knew 3 teetotalers who were the healthiest people over 85 years old that I ever met.

It took 15 years of occasional heroin and opiate use to catch up to me, but when it did, it got bad for a couple years.
Can't say I gained anything from the experiences.

>>510442912
The cartels should produce "Doctor's Choice" brand meth

>>510442737
Oh, in that case I retract my accusation.

>>510444678
cartels worship death, not capitalism
they don't understand anything about marketing or have the ethic to make good drugs

>>510443133
>I actually don't really like it but it can be an enjoyable party drug under the right circumstances
ah yes the classic coke and ethanol combination to make the more potent and enjoyable cocaethylene

>>510445084
>they don't understand anything about marketing
t. has 0 clue how the drug pill game works

>>510445153
>t. has 0 clue how the drug pill game works
I have the clue that "drug pills" aren't made of cow shit, street shitting fecaleaf

>>510440804
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h_oGuUA2hgE

There is nothing sadder than humans not realizing how strong and physically capable humans are. You are like a cuck.

>>510440892
>I remember that stuff. The meth heads started hallucinating and acting crazy when they switched over from that old ephedrine based meth to the new D meth they cook up with the farm tanks.

After fact-checking myself, it turns out the old pseudoephedrine or ephedrine + ammonia method that almost exclusively produces the D-isomer is the old/clean method. That's how the meth-heads in my area made it back in the day.
The newer BMK method that produces the racemic mixture is what was alleged to be leading to and epidemic of long-time recreational users going schizo suddenly.

>>510445551
Point being, we're talking about the same event.

Retarded thread, 1pbtid, picture with no explanation, an assumption that everybody does whatever that is.
Stop posting this shit!

>>510438174 (OP)
I have two guys I grew up with who both got into meth. One lives in the woods by a mall and comes to the mall to pan handle for money for meth and the second friend lives out of his car at a parking structure where he’s cool with the security so they don’t kick him out.


Don’t even try this shit not even once there’s so many examples ITT of people with ruined lives.

>>510445531
Mass spear chucking looks way more uncoordinated than I expected it to

>>510438646
All you need to know here.
His brain has melted and all that is left is a few core memories of writing and parts of his limbic system that control the hands. Nothing else.

>>510440287
>all you would think about is meth
This happened to a co-worker. He would never STFU about meth. For the longest time he tried to deny he was using it, but he would turn every conversation into a discussion about meth and how it isn't really bad for you. He finally admitted that he used it every night, which didn't exactly surprise any of us.

>>510438174 (OP)
MDMA would be my synthetic of choice, followed closely by LCD, then DMT

>>510441045
Guy I used to work for had a mother-in-law who was a meth cook. She cooked up a really bad batch that her son smoked and it turned him into a schizophrenic who can't hold down a job or take care of himself.

>>510441889
People will achieve great things only when they have nothing worse to do.

>>510439018
The one time I ever tried it my dick didn't work

>>510442951
Bitches don't know about cathinones, an A-PVP zombie will rip a meth user off a bus and eat his face. I got a small stash of 3MMC for safe keeping, awesome stuff.

>>510445318
pills are branded, you're a retarded mutt nigger who lets street shitters live rent free in your tiny process food filled brain

>>510438174 (OP)
I've abused both adderall and meth and meth is so shitty and lame in comparison that if you know the difference you'd just get a prescription for adderall

>>510438174 (OP)
I mean if you're retarded it's dangerous

If you have a brain of a rocket scientist /chemist like myself
Then it's no problem
Just get rest proper

No there's nothing good about this shit.
Also the reason why faggots love it so much is because it turns you gay.

>>510447554
It doesn't turn you gay
It turns you into a fucking sleep deprived psycho if you don't rest proper
The people who see who are so fucked up in the street doing the most insane shit on videos
Those people are usually in a meth induced lack of sleep psychosis
If you stay up too long
You can break your brain and it'll never rewire itself back
So beware all ye whom enter here

You will and can fuck yourself up very permanently on meth
It has all sorts of shit in it

>>510438450
>>510438322
>>510438174 (OP)
yes amphetamine/methamphetamine will make you legit psychotic if you abuse it

>>510447694
Not limited to
Acetone
And paint thinners

You will get fucking permanent brain damage after prolonged usage of methamphetamines
Especially if you are getting it from an unreliable person
They make shake and bake garbage meth
They make lab meth like breaking bad tier shit
But you obviously have to have money or know the right person
But usually the cops are involved with big meth labs cause how else are you going to keep your hoes in check and drugged up if you don't keep them on meth and lack of sleep
You can't control your prostitutes
Lmao
The cops are the main sex traffickers
Why you think there is a blade in every city , rural or huge

Anyone using that shit isn't human anymore.
It eats holes in their brain until they're niggercrazy and then living dead.
I won't tolerate tweekers. I hope their supply is poisoned and they all die.

>>510447966
Ya I'm waiting for the day that my brother in law somehow goes into a meth psychosis and kills everyone in the house

>>510439029
>you are a retard if you dont want to talk about absolutely degenerate shit that merits no conversation at all
string up everyone that talks about meth and call it a day

Only done DMAA and ephedrine. What's the actual difference between analogues?

>>510447966
I used to have a gun
But the cops took it
Well long story
Anyways
I was prepared to blow this sob away because he was zombie man
No amount of trying to reason or tell him it'll be okay , or whatever can calm them
They'll just continue the behavior until they literally pass the fuck out

>>510448124
Leagues

>>510438439
The true white man isn't giving himself a chemical mad cow disease. This is nigger tier shit.

>>510448124
Let's just say I tested some meth before
Took me a week to finish the bag
But I did
About day 3 or 4 I dropped my wife off at work in the morning , and I passed out in the parking lot from the beginning of her shift till the first break with the car on lol

>>510448278
So no different than steroid usage where the affects are wildly different based upon the substance being used?

>>510438174 (OP)
Methamphetamine will destroy your life.
It fucks up your brain chemistry.
Stay as far away from it as possible, anon.
I have seen it destroy people's lives.
And it does it SUPER quick. Like months.

>>510438174 (OP)
>Should I do meth?
>1pbtid
PUT ME IN THE MUH FUGGIN SCREEN CAP

Accidentally did 70% meth 30% ???? Thinking it was MDMA.

10 hours of being wrapped in a blanket, wearing a hardhat and pilot goggles watching 90s pop music videos like spice girls.

5/10

>>510449082
This too, your brain will be fried. Lost a lot of people I know to meth/speed.
There comes a part your too far gone and that's when noone except other druggies will talk to you.

>>510441939
I’ve known heavy opiate users who were business owners and very successful. Street fent is mixed with stuff to create a buzz like mixing opiates and Xanax which is a horrible combo. Drugs can indeed be very destructive.

>>510441308
High IQ people are more likely to use drugs actually. They are just intelligent enough not to expose that behavior to people like yourself because they understand you would attempt to control them and weaponize that freedom against them. I have met strikingly intelligent crack users that owned very successful businesses. I wouldn’t want to smoke crack myself but this guy without a doubt performed very well in life and he drank daily alcohol as well.

>>510441700
Oh yea the race that’s the stuff that when it come around you started seeing the insane meth zombies tripping out. It’s because they are chasing that euphoria. Coke or opiates would be far less destructive than this new weird meth. The black gangs call it “that weirdo dope” because of the behavior associated with it.

>>510438174 (OP)
I don't think it's humanly possible to be able to keep a decent life together on it. Meth heads always think they appear more normal than they actually do. It's sad because they usually have kids and the cycle of abuse is repeated

>>510442383
See>>510449964

The founding fathers were drug users. Thomas Jefferson’s home at Monticello was raided by the dea because of his opiate garden. Those men were strikingly intelligent with a substantial number of them literally being members of a severe society as you describe known as the Freemasons who coincidentally believe in liberty and freedom.

>>510442613
My lawyer would snort coke every day and he had a mansion that must have been at least $30 mil. He got busted dealing in a massive amount of coke and then got out of it and is still a lawyer. Talking bricks here.

People have a tendency to think most drug dealers are some poor guy in a trailer park but it’s often times successful businessmen. Those types usually are extremely intelligent.

Broke stupid people aren’t pulling up with $100,000 in cash to meet the big guy. Low IQ people spend that kind of money or get robbed or somehow fuck it up.

>>510442719
Sure, plenty of people do that with alcohol too but I don’t think anyone would argue there isn’t an intelligent and successful man who drinks out there. It would demonstrate a lack of experience in the real world imo. A lot of intelligent businessmen are eccentric and crazy. That character of the rich Asian guy from the hangover is a stereotype for a reason.

This thread is unironically brilliant. OP understands that, at their core, most of /pol/ is just made up of contrarians. Framing meth as something the gubbermint doesn't want you to do, and isn't actually that bad, might actually get some of particularly conspiratorial users to one day try it and ruin their lives.

I smoked it routinely for a year. I think it’s the best thing that ever happened to me. But I’m 3 years sober now. It’s hard to describe to anyone who hasn’t used but the benefit I got from it was like, burning away delusions. I could say yes I agree it ruins your life. But having done it, I feel like it only freed me from a sort of fake-life. The life that I lost was actually an elaborate mask anyways. And the drug helped me see through that. I also think it has a quality to amplify whatever type of energy you already had. Like a mana crystal. If you were selfish and greedy you’ll be more selfish and more greedy. If you were guilty and paranoid you’ll feel even more paranoid. If you’re a genuinely soft hearted person, you can break through. But when you come back you’ll only be able to break through again without cheating this time. It can be a nice experience just to realize what’s even possible

>>510438174 (OP)
go post on /b/ you retarded idiot

>posting hard drugs on a political board

huehueuhuehuehue

>>510447905
>The cops are the main sex traffickers
LOL. Yeah, I knew a tweaker who was in love with some demented prostitute who was being pimped by a cop.

>>510442808
>>510443023
I've been reading the "Trainwreck/disaster" section of the erowid experience vault and been crying laughing hysterically for the last hour or so thank you for that anons I've needed a good laugh today.

>>510439065

>>510450959
One of the open secrets about coke is that the rich and healthy can basically do it like it's coffee.

The bitch from paramore burnt through her nose with coke before stopping her heart.

>>510455527
look at the benadryl reports. if you eat a whole fucking bottle of benadryl you enter hatman spider hell.

>>510456374
Will do, thanks. It's nice to laugh.

>>510455527
>>510456491
>>>/r*ddit/

>>510438174 (OP)
Its not like you become a zombie the first time you do it. It sucks though. The high isnt even that good and coming down is hell. Speed , MDMA is much much better.

You can do the work of 3 men on it if you aren’t a nigger and smoke a pound of it. The problem is if you work around the public your pupils will give you away so you need to pair it with a small amount of opioid. You can see where problems can arise.

>>510438174 (OP)
Desoxyn is pure meth. If you could find a way to ingest a small dose in your stomach with a similar delivery to pharma stuff, it'd probably be fine. I know that smoking, snorting etc is what causes meth to be extremely addictive because you're taking a dose in such a fast fashion instead of it being broken down over time.
Same reason why nicotine can be intensified in its addictiveness by smoking it, but patches are okay

>>510438174 (OP)
Weakens your immune system rendering you vulnurable to HSV-2, HIV, and all the weird shit like Monkeypox.

>>510438174 (OP)
I should call her.

>>510456979
meth is a neurotoxin

>>510438174 (OP)
Back in my day 'meth' was a drink

>>510438174 (OP)
its not that bad in moderation, unlike fent.

>>510452024
>unironically
shut the fuck up faggot

>>510438174 (OP)
It's bad but only if you spin yourself out into oblivion, I did it for years off and on. I didn't get super skinny, lose all my teeth or have any medical issues as a result of it. I made it too back when it was easy to get the chem components for it, now there are so many buffers to precipitate out that the diminishing returns are simply ridiculous. Juice ain't worth the squeeze any more.

>>510438174 (OP)
Before we go on, faggot op, wtf is it? Looks like quartz crystal. How are crystals a boogeyman?
Another retard slide thread?

>>510452024
why not just take normal amphetamin, like the nazis, it has far less toxic properties in the brain. Its like you would recommend fent over oxis.

>>510438322
Meth is not cocaine.

>>510438174 (OP)
Wish we had it here, top tier schizo drug

>>510438174 (OP)
It messes with serotonin so it makes you retarded, my personal favorites were NDRIs mainly APHP/APIHP (they are like cocaine on steroids) but they caused way too many psychosis. For productivity only methylphenidate.

>>510438874
What about microdosing it?

>>510458024
A-pvp, a-pihp are cathinones and easy to make supposedly, which is strange as they are superior to meth. Apvp > 4mmc > meth > 3mmc > coke > 2mmc. Meow meow is the pinnacle party drug, although I'm boring by druggie standards so I think 3mmc is good enough, especially at a huge party/rave. As I said a meth user will look at someone and want to fuck them an apvp user will rip a meth user off a bus and eat their face, at least the synthetic bath salt version will. Everyone buy some silly dots at your local smoke shop and relax.

if you want to try it go ahead but make sure that you cannot get it easily again. I wouldn't really mess with it unless you have used other hard drugs. don't fucking inject it

As an ex-psychonaut who used to contribute to Erowid. These are the only drugs really worth doing
>MDMA
>2CB
>LSD
>Mushrooms
>DMT
>Mescaline
Everything else is really just a waste of fucking time. Those drugs pretty much perfect the drug experience.
Unless you need something for study/work then armodafinil is pretty much GOAT nootropic.
>But but my cocaine
Cocaine is turbo overrated, not good for recreational use, only good for liquid courage to actually approach women and have game since it boosts ego and removes anxiety.

>>510458939
What about nitrous? If done by itself it seems like a complete waste and junkie tier (due to actual damage caused by prolonged and extensive usage) but moderate use in combination with psychedelics can shift the experience into a whole new gear in my experience.

>>510439723
Weed makes me very horny too
It just affects people differently

>>510459920
too much weed makes me psychotic. amphetamines turn into a 6 hour tranny porn wanking marathon with a bucketful of ammonia-smelling cum when it does actually decide to come out.

>>510438174 (OP)
This is just po boy coke. Not worth the psychosis.

>>510438174 (OP)
If you smoke one bowl of it, your life is pretty much over.
You'll be chasing that dragon for the rest of your days.
And today they're mixing it with fentanyl, I wouldn't touch it if I was you

>>510445531
that actually makes "humans" look like incredible cowards I must say, although I better understand how mob hunting works now (doesn't actually require any skill/courage) so thanks for the enlightenment there
>>510441889
good point anon

>>510440336
How can this be tested to find out which kind it is before you take it? For harm reduction purposes. I don't wanna go schitzo but I love to tweak.

>>510440860
This. So much this.

Whoa, man. Also, dude, I once knew a guy, personally, who did lsd.

After he did lsd, he had major flash backs.

When he got flashbacks, he literally thought he was a blue dot.

A blue dot, man. He thought he had become a literal blue dot.

Meth, man.

Not even once.

>>510462778
You can buy various testing kits online to check for fent, confirming if the acid you bought is actually acid and so on, google around and see if there are testing kits specifically to discern between the types mentioned in the picture. Ask an LLM and it might give you a specific name for the testing kit.

>>510440892
Meth is natural. That is, it could be made naturally using derivatives from the Acacia tree.

>>510441045
>that picrel

Its a good thing I'm already ugly because I'm gonna try doing some meth pretty soon.
Wish me luck, bros.

>>510440287
It's not just that the stuff is so addictive, the tweakers all use massive overdoses of the drug. Pervitin came in 3mg tablets for a reason. These fiends are using the equivalent of hundreds of Pervitin tabs daily.

>>510442439
Sounds like a fun dude, desu.
Would hang out with.

>>510438174 (OP)
>Muh productivity
>50 tabs open gooning for 48 hours

>>510438174 (OP)
I've seen a lot of people fuck themselves up with amphetamines in general. Inadvisable.

>>510438174 (OP)
I worked as a security guard for the 5150 mental health part of a hospital, and pretty much every patient in there was because of meth
Just stay away from that shit, it'll ruin your life

>>510447694
Nobody who hasn't already done meth should try it.
But all the cool guys who have already done it can keep doing it, though.

>>510438174 (OP)
I have friends that are "functional" tweakers.

Problem is, they can get simple tasks done super quick if they can stay focused, but give them a complex task that requires multitasking and they can't help but hone in on one specific part for too long. Even simple multitasking like managing a coffee bar is often too much for tweakers.

If we wanna get into the long-term health problems, we can, but drugs in general are just stupid if the goal is long-term health, wellness, and success.

>>510448063
You are talking about meth rn

>>510465371
I've also been to rehab several times for alcoholism and most people in rehabs are tweakers too
It's like 90% tweakers, 5% alcoholics, and 5% opiate addicts or pill poppers or whatever

>>510447437
>pills are branded, you're a retarded mutt nigger who lets street shitters live rent free in your tiny process food filled brain
Glass houses, leaf.

>>510450111
>The black gangs call it “that weirdo dope” because of the behavior associated with it.

Really? That's what " the black gangs " call it?
And just how the fuck would you know what " the black gangs " call things?
Please explain.

>Weed gets normalized
>Now hearing about people doing meth all the time
Was this always the case or is this a new thing because in my experience meth was always some out there crazy drug only deranged retards did and now young people I interact with seem blasé about doing it.

>>510438174 (OP)
I've never met a meth user who had their shit together.

>>510466115
Meth has become kind of normalized, unfortunately

I have never met a tweaker whose brain wasn't completely, irreversibly fried, who wasn't a completely unhinged psychopath, and who wasn't homeless or on the verge of becoming homeless, living in a filthy trap house. Half of Billings, Montana is full of these fuckers. There is no moderate use of meth, there are no functional tweakers. It is to the poor white community what crack is to the poor blacks, an absolute scourge completely robbing people of any potential.

>>510438450
lol retard
please don't talk about things you don't know anything about please

>>510450959
This makes sense because drug networks couldn't function if left up to retarded, schizo, bumbling idiots who were bad at business and organization.

Best to not even try it. You'll feel the best you've ever felt and spend the entire high looking for degen porn or doing doing something incredibly unimportant. Then you'll be sad as shit once its over and you wont sleep worth a fuck for a few days. You'll instantly have cravings for more once it wears off.

Meth is weird because it probably won't kill you directly but the lack of sleep will drive you to a mental break and the addiction is second only to heroin and fent in terms of how hard it is to break

>>510452024
You can't just go out and pick up a meth and try it. Who knows drug dealers let alone hard drug dealers? Not very many people. If you already know a drug dealer you are probably already doing drugs.
Do you think someone will read this thread and start looking for a meth dealer? Lmao.

Ive only aquired pure crystal meth once. I was awake 7 days straight with amount that was less than 1,5 grams. It was really fucking strong to say the least. I ended up having a massive fight with my gf of that time on the last day and I took 300ug of LSD and things got pretty psychotic lol. But when I was coming down from acid I was still feeling very functional. The feeling was like I could do another week straight if id had stuff left.

Meth and a-PVP ("flakka") have this demonic glow in them that allures you to use them. Like your every cell knows its evil and burns your soul but still you want to touch it so bad.

>>510466671
weed dealers usually also deal coke and meth or know people who do through their distributor, its not that hard to get even if you're a suburban kid

>>510466450
No, you’re both fucking wrong. The government intelligence agencies allow these organizations to work as off the record NGO’s so to speak.

>>510457528
This would make a cool tattoo

>>510466671
its easier now than ever to acquire any drugs with darknet markets. I could acquire and overdose on fent within a weeks time if I wanted to for fun

>>510467057
>I could acquire and overdose on fent within a weeks time if I wanted to for fun
I could acquire that in 5 minute by walking down the street lol. Seen a fenty boi OD and die last week, was hilarious

>>510456979
Everything smokable is very addictive. Its not suprirse all the commonly used hard drugs can be smoked. Its a good way to make us addicted af who would never shoot it.

>>510465646
Good assessment. These are the kinds of actual facts that should be used when trying to discourage drug use. Unlike the " It'll put holes in your brain, maaan, and it will make all your teeth fall out duuude " tier warnings that do not work and are intelligence insulting garbage.

>>510438174 (OP)
Think the fear is wildly overstated. Most addicts naturally just stop eventually.

Most people would be able to use meth without addiction. Shame it literally doesn't exist in the UK.

It’s amazing people can’t see that illicit drugs are produced by the government initially then propagate out through the population gathering grassroot support. Seriously every single time the governments are the agencies inventing or distributing the drugs for some military or nefarious purpose. When you think about influencing society at scale, like for example, how the government use birth control to cover up hormonal dysfunction of ultra processed foods in the 1960s on the back of women’s sexual liberation things start to become clear what’s happening.

>>510466397
Meth is speed.

>...

>>510438174 (OP)
It makes you talk too much and then you get sloppy.

>>510467247
I live in rural WI, am a frequenter at the bars around here and even I'd have a hard time scoring meth or fent if I wanted. I guess my point is that the advent of buying drugs on the internet makes it easy and actually preferable. I always hated dealing with drug dealers in person and their stupid sketchy shit

>>510466991
There are no weed dealers here, anymore. The weed dealer is the corner gas station or Habibi mart.

>>510467636
Speed could also be used to describe amphetamines or methamphetamines which is not the same thing as crystal meth, which is home lab produced crystallized form of methamphetamine that primarily smoked or injected.

>>510467636
Not here or not in Europe in general. We have strong presence of amphetamine sulphate and thats what everyone means by "speed". Yeah its often mixed with paste-like meth also but still its mostly amphetamine sulphate. And that costs like 20-30€/g here in Finland while real crystal meth is like 150-200€/g.

>>510467057
Don't trust the darknet anymore. The days of using crypto to buy from the darknet, and thinking it is truly anonymous are dunzo.

>>510438174 (OP)
I hate meth and cocaine is just meh, but holy fuck do I love crack

>>510438174 (OP)
BUT WHAT WOULD I DO WITHOUT MY ZOOM ZOOMS AGENT
I CANT EXTINCT

>>510467950
This, past few years in the UK the gov has gone hard on darknet drug ordering instead of things like rape or murder.

>>510467950
You’re probably buying from the intelligence agencies at this point. Possibly indirectly -possibly directly.

>>510467950
they're pretty much all gone now. the real good ones have insane opsec to even log into the site, you basically need a BA in compsci to be able to access most of them. most only deal with XMR too, which is the only way forward.

>>510438322
It’s fulminated mercury with a little tweak of chemistry.

>>510438174 (OP)
Burns your brains and gums. Drugs are the cope of losers. Winners are high on success.

Heroin, Fentanyl, and Oxycontin's are opioids, it is made from a plant. Meth is made from chemicals and people who abuse it suffer from all kinds of shit that they can never get back.

>>510467504
Buy the rich people drug. Cocaine is more widespread is britain than anywhere else.

>>510468500
Usually natural things are bad for you. Weak argument.

>>510468500
Fentanyl is synthetic and its not derived from poppy like most of the opioids

>>510468619
That’s certainly not been true concerning health as of 2025. Provide examples.

>>510468665
Eat dirt, tree bark, raw boar, cow dung. None of it good for you.

>>510438174 (OP)
no.

>>510468776
Your example is lack creativity or imagination, and are not equivalent. The other non-listed 4 drugs. All drugs have a positive effect on your mentality initially, which is deceptive, the addictive phase, then a physical breakdown where your body breaks due to drug abuse. Your example is just taking crude things and saying their nature and bad for you. You’re a fucking idiot.

>>510468776
Some people eat clay to settle their stomach as a pro probiotic, which would be considered dirt, Tree bark was used to make aspirin, and grow mushrooms, which is used to make numerous medications, raw or can be cooked and provide provides a natural source of high level of vitamin B and count can be used to smaller flames and provide manure to grow crops and soil a.k.a. dirt.

>>510468500
literally every single substance and poison you can put in your body is derived from natural materials Anon

>>510469328
You’re not even worth a proper response so I’m just text to speech I g at your bitch ass

>>510469355
So is every single thing that’s beneficial and provides subside and longevity, ANON

>>510468500
Human shit is natural. If I eat hepatitis human shit, its cool. Because its natural.

>>510468660
>Fentanyl is synthetic
A synthetic what? OPIOID???

>>510463000
thanks for this post

>>510469457
Covid vaccines are synthetic and give you CIA designed spike proteins that replicate inside your body forever and reverse transcribe into your genome. These are self power control mechanisms to help establish a healthy human life cycle.

>>510468665
Do you seriously think pharmaceutical drugs are made from their natural derivatives? They aren't. Everything is lab made synthetics, now.
Opioids came from nature in the form of opium poppies. Crystal meth came from the Acacia tree. None of that matters in modern times because it is all synthetically made in laboratories, now. Often, but not always, by utilizing various lab grown yeasts.

>>510438174 (OP)
If it wasn’t good for you, why would government ban it?

>>510469328
You don't eat tree bark because it takes more than 1 calorie of energy to digest 1 calorie of tree bark.

>>510469767
That’s a hell of a conclusion to draw from what I said. I simply said to provide examples, and that synthetic products are the bane of humanity. The reason why 77% of Americans are overweight is because they have hormonal balances directly related to chemicals and foods that are synthetic ultra processed foods were one of the worst things to ever happen to the United States. Contraceptives in birth control controls, used to control hormonal profiles of women coverup some of the detrimental effects of ultra processed foods. This was all done in the name of hiding monetary system decline. So why don’t you go fucking fuck yourself faggot.

>>510469806
He said anything about eating any of those products? Oh, you did cool so you’re defining something that no one brought up trying to frame that you’re correct like a narcissistic fag. Why don’t you go KYS

>>510468500
Ephedrine was used to make meth before it's sales got clamped down on. It comes from a plant.
Ephedrine is also a substituted phenethylamine, true phenethylamine's can be found in chocolate after it's been fermented from microbacteria, along with being in various fungi.

Kill yourself with your naturalistic fallacy bullshit, go OD on some opioids.

>>510469978
Are you really going to say that everything natural is good? You know that many plants can kill you if you eat them.

>>510469895
You sound uptight. Have a whiff of jenkum and get back to me when you're more mellowed out, man.

>>510438869
Lmao
I found so many of these hidden behind the drywall and in the ceiling when I was high

>>510438174 (OP)
Where are you doing it, what are you doing, and with who?

>>510438174 (OP)
Also the paranoia isn’t always bad

>>510468047
LOL, post pipe