What are the political consequences of becoming a gigachad?
Will I become extreme far-right?

your balls will shrink and your hair is going to fall out

>>510440313 (OP)
Nah just a troon

Suddenly this makes sense
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IV0g8hcgqMI

Yes.

>>510440508

>>510440313 (OP)
>needing shots like a transman
What, your balls not makin' enough boy juice? Ya need supplements? You want some Flintstones vitamins too?

>>510440313 (OP)
The only thing that’ll change is the integrity of your heart as an organ. You gonna die young.

>>510440313 (OP)
It will not change your genes. You will just fuck up your body.

>>510440313 (OP)
Microdoses, TRT levels, its probably okay with something to control the estrogen increase you will get.

I recommend that you flush it down the toilet. These drugs will do immense harm to your mind and body and you will develop an addiction. If you want to get fit, then eat healthy and exercise.

>>510440797
Steroids work via epigenetics, they turn on and off gene transcription for different proteins

Do 200mg eod or ed and become a monster

>>510441028
And they also supress your body's natural ability to produce testosterone, so it's no different than becoming dependent on any other pharmaceutical.

>>510441299
Body always bounces back fast even without pct. Its way overblown.

>>510440313 (OP)
your body still has to metabolize it
east asians have testosterone but they don't metabolize it all

>>510441016
>If you want to get fit, then eat healthy and exercise.
Ain't nobody got time for that.

>>510440313 (OP)
If you need test you’re never becoming a gigachad since you couldn’t even be the baseline normal person

>>510440313 (OP)

you'll probably get acne, your balls shrink and you'll die of a heart attack in your 40's/50's while getting less results than if you trained and ate correctly while staying natural. have fun

>>510440313 (OP)
I knew a lad who did steroids and he got big, but strangely his elbows and hand bones also grew. Looked weird and no one thought he was a gigachad.

>>510443637
>you'll probably get acne
A problem
>your balls shrink
not a problem
>you'll die of a heart attack in your 40's/50's
not a problem

>>510440371
>your hair is going to fall out
chat is this real? i need hair

>>510444413
Everything that tampers with the endocrine system will have health drawbacks.

>>510444413
Why?

>>510444658
everybody men and women alike treat bald men like garbage

>>510440313 (OP)
50:50 chance in a year or so you'll start to have homosexual urges. Assuming you aren't a flaming faggot already. Which you probably are, since you seek recreational drugs like a whitetrash tweaker.

I've been injecting estrogen for 10 years solid and if anything I'm more of a nazi.
Benefits, my skin is soft, im lactating, im squishy, im totally attracted to tall chads.

>>510440313 (OP)
DO IT

>>510445107
He's just trying to get to the testosterone levels that a normal man used to have before our food and water got poisoned

>>510445107
>50:50 chance in a year or so you'll start to have homosexual urges
And why should this be a problem?
>inb4 muh women

You will have to do them for the rest of your life, if something happens where you lose supply you start looking like a butch lesbian.

>>510445189
Lovely!
Does your busy smell nice when it gets damp?

>>510443402
If you don't do that on your test cycles you will get health problems anyway.

>>510440313 (OP)
You'll no longer be a faggot. Prepare for big changes.

>>510445608
I literally don't have a cock anymore so yeah my vagina smells faintly fishy after a long hike but usually it smells like strawberries from the lotion I use.
My clit gets kinda hard when my bf is nearby lol, last bit of erectile tissue left lol

>>510445576
This is very true. Taking testosterone NUKES your balls permanently. You have no clue how many ugly non passing trannies came from the bodybuilding community.

>>510440313 (OP)
it depends on the reason you're taking it.
if you're taking it to compete in some sport or recover faster, you're probably okay.
Just keep an eye on your BP

If you're taking test to become more of a man, it's not going to work out well for you and you could end up like Kroc

>>510446514
Matt Kroc lost the cock lol

>>510444413
Only if your hair follicles are sensitive to dihydrotestosterone, in which case you will go down the norwood path, roids or not.

>>510440627
If he needs it, why would you shame him for it?

>>510440313 (OP)
If you do this, you are forbiden from bitching about trannies from now own

>>510440313 (OP)
Eat well, workout at home with dumbells, situps, HIIT shadow boxing til your side hurts, test will increase. No need for that bottle shit, what are you, a baby?

>>510440313 (OP)
Injecting something in your body that it doesn't naturally produce or doesn't produce at levels it shouldn't isn't just stupid it's retardation.

>>510440313 (OP)
transsexual? your body naturally produces low testosterone for a reason.

>>510445189
>>510446037
Post bussy.

>>510440313 (OP)
If your body can't produce the testosterone you need naturally, just accept your failure as a man and quit trying to spread your worthless genes to another generation.

>>510441028
The downsides are underblown, particularly by users. Cardiovascular issues, breast growth, testicular shrinkage are common, but potential liver damage, strokes, high blood pressure, and more can happen if misused too. This isn't even mentioning the more benign side effects like MPB either.

In general, it's not a good idea to haphazardly fuck with your body's equilibrium. You're right that your body can bounce back quickly under a light steroid regiment, but heavier ones take MUCH longer to recover from & the time varies person to person. Can take anywhere from. 2 months on the low end to 1 year+ on the high end, and dealing with test levels THAT low is a nightmare. You'll feel sluggish, weak, out of breath, and more every single day.

>>510447697
I second that montion.

>>510440313 (OP)
You will impress all the big sweaty men at gym and repulse all women

>>510448793
>If your body can't produce the testosterone you need naturally
I have adequate levels, just want more.
>quit trying to spread your worthless genes to another generation.
I'm not even trying, wtf is your problem?

>>510448932
Sounds good to me.

>>510447697
They should post their face, but they know they still look like a man from the shoulders up, so they won't.

>>510440313 (OP)
YWNBAM

>>510449070
Only faggots care about the face. Only sweet damp musk bussy is important.

>>510448826
>You'll feel sluggish, weak, out of breath, and more every single day.
Literally me now that I got a full-time wagie job

>>510440313 (OP)
I tried HRT twice...you are baisically signing up for $500-$1000 a month medical treatment for the rest of your life...increasing in cost over time as your organs start to degrade...

Not sustainable for normal people.

>>510440313 (OP)
>Will I become extreme far-right?
Only in the sense that you’ll start fucking men if you don’t already.

>>510440313 (OP)
Just 50mg of testosterone cypionate on every 5th day is best, enanthate causes more bloating.
>>510440371
Your balls shrink but your dick gets bigger and your boners are like diamonds.

>>510450938
Why bloating?

>>510444413
Pharmafag here

Look up androgenic alopecia. Every single human being is susceptible to it to varying degrees. Yes, that includes women. Here's the explanation.

Testosterone is metabolized into dihydrotestosterone (DHT) by the enzyme 5-alpha-reductaste. Human scalp follicles are susceptible to something known as "miniaturization" as DHT binds to the scalp follicle.

This is why 5 alpha reductase inhibitors (finasteride, dutasteride) work so well for keeping your hair.

NOW, this does not mean you should jump on testosterone and take finasteride to block DHT metabolism. Number one, nobody under the age of 25 should be taking finasteride period. DHT is the androgen most responsible for determining secondary sex characteristics like voice deepening, penis size, beard growth, etc.

If you block DHT during puberty, you will literally look and sound like a prepubescent boy. This is why those Italian boys in choirs got their balls chopped off. This is why "trans" MTF children are given finasteride. It's absolutely disgusting and will absolutely ruin your life.

I say 25 because even though "puberty" is done, secondary male sexual characteristics take time to develop. Ideally, you wouldn't touch finasteride until 35+.

To anyone who is thinking about using finasteride to save their hair, do what I do. Do NOT take it as prescribed, there is absolutely Z E R O reason to take it daily. Take 0.5mg every other day AT MOST.

Ideally, take 0.5mg every four days. This is about the time it stops inhibiting DHT. Now, if you're going to do a cycle or "TRT", you need risk really fucking shit up if you take it with finasteride. Im not going to get into it because it's complicated but if you do this you need to be monitoring your E2 levels every other week or you risk developing gynocomastia and a host of other issues.

>>510440371
Just take Clomid post cycle and you're fine.

>>510441854
never has for me or anyone I've known but OK

>>510450505
lol faggot

>>510450505
Lmao fucking retard.

No it doesn't just magically get more expensive. If you're on them your organs aren't "shutting down" unless you generally already have acute underlying conditions. You can also quit freely at any time and still keep the boobs.

Literally a skill issue

>>510451980
>>510452003
>Take the drugs Chud, it's cheap and has no side effects
>Chud->Chad_Pipeline.jewbait

Look at the time...

Billions must pin test

>>510440313 (OP)
hit the weights dufus, otherwise, what's the point.

>>510440313 (OP)
Overpriced short term results for people with shit genetics. Enjoy permanently ruining your natural hormone production

>>510440313 (OP)
Test is awsome the worst part is coming off though Jesus, worse depression of your life. I think it’s just better to stay stable but that’s for you to figure out yourself good luck gigachad

>>510440313 (OP)
A Gigafag you meant

>>510451546
I take dutasteride for 11 years. Still horny as fuck. I wished it could lower my libido. It didn't im at least as horny if not more. I'm not what ro else to say I strangely have 0 gray hair at 38. And look ridiculously young. May be a coincidence though.

>>510440313 (OP)
Switch to sustanon if you can. Proud of u though

when in doubt, try this
CLINICAL TEST QUESTION
>are you descended from south asian subcontinental ancestry?
any answer longer than "no" means yes
not answering means yes
lying means yes

>>510440313 (OP)
Goga chad is not swollen body.
It is genetics.
You can not change them.
You can only get from ugly to ugly with muscles and with fat.

>southasianmasculinity

>>510441299
That is the beauty of it.
You create a new essential need that only xn be satisfied by buying the drug.
You create a Dependant customer, thus securing a constant life long demand for your drugs.
Guaranteed peofit

My muscle already develops too fast for the rest of my body without taking those. You need to strengthen your nervous system with all-out max intensity sprinting type efforts and you need to strengthen your bones with isometric exercises where you hold muscles under tension at least 15 seconds stuff like horse stance. You want to be a real gigachad you need to be doing shaolin style training, iron man training, that kind of stuff. You also need to do a lot of heart-rate zone 2 hours and hours long endurance training to strengthen the heart and lungs so stuff like ultramarathons, swimming, century rides, etc.

Taking something that emphasizes muscles over bones, heart, lungs, and nervous system is retarded.

Oh wait's testosterone lol.

I don't know what the effects of supplementing that stuff is, I thought OP was talking about 'roids.

>>510446037
Man made horrors beyond my comprehension posting in this thread.

>>510440371
I've been on test for a yr but it's the gel. My dick is bigger and thicker, my muscles are very defined. And I get hard constantly and it's like a diamond, I cum 3 times before it goes down.

cool story pajeet

>>510440313 (OP)
I've been taking Test E for years. Literally zero consequences (unless you don't wash good, then you can get high school level of acne)

More energy, dick harder, more pussy, throw on muscles easily. Just take 250-500 to avoid side effects. The people on /fraud/ on /fit/ will call you a pussy for not taking retardedly high doses like 1g and tren but fuck it, just do TRT doses.

>>510461745
>t. The least retarded nazi POS.

>>510462721
Do you have prostate issues? I have BPH and I've been thinking of doing what you mentioned. I don't want a bigger prostate.

>>510462873
>t.

>>510440313 (OP)
Basically I just don't like jews. That's my political view. I don't see why it needs to be any more complicated than that.

>>510462995
I have zero issues whatsoever. If you have pre-existing health conditions like kidney issues or a prostate problem talk to a doctor first.

The kidney thing is only because testosterone can cause water retention, same as creatine and green tea.

Test E is completely safe in moderate doses and ALL men (except kidney problem dudes) should be taking it and creatine in their 20s beyond. All the side effects that the media jews tell you like roid rage, balding, acne, man boobs is one of two reasons

>bodybuilders taking super high doses of testosterone
>synthetics such as tren, not straight testosterone like Test E, P, or C

No judgement to people who DO want to take synthetics and super high doses. But I'm not gambling my health like that when TRT is just fine for me.

>>510463397
Based comment, thanks, being 50 and having an enlarged prostate concerns me, I'm worried about messing around with hormones in my system. I don't want my PSA to skyrocket. I don't think it will be worth it. I hate Jews

Somebody shill me a Canadian source

>>510463701
what's it like being a mountie lad

>>510450938
Yeah your bonors are like diamonds until you stop taking the juice.
>why stop taking it
It eventually kills you.

>>510463701
I thought Testosterone was legal in leafville

>>510463638
I looked it up, TRT shouldn't cause it.
https://tau.amegroups.org/article/view/11491/html#:~:text=We%20have%20discussed%20testosterones%20role,does%20not%20change%20prostate%20size.


That said check /fraud/ on /fit/ if you're curious about safe roiding. Though some of them will call you a pussy if you say you're TRTing instead of doing high dosage.

>>510463701
I buy from steroidify.com using bitcoin. Check if they deliver to Canada. They send through the postal service so I don't know if it delivers to Canada or not.

>>510462721
Lord in heaven.. 250-500 is borderline gear levels... around 100 is trt, some variation depending on how each body reacts.

>>510440313 (OP)
you become a monkey

>>510440313 (OP)
Where do you even get that stuff? Not that I'd do it because I'm comfortable with how I am now, I just always wondered where people get that stuff because isn't it illegal?

>>510440313 (OP)
What's the point of being a roided incel? My sex drive is already pointlessly high. I won't magically get social skills from taking testosterone.

>>510462222
Where do I get it and what do I do? What about cycling off?

>>510464050
of Testosterone Enathate? 250mg is what the actual clinic near me was going to use but it was fucking 35 dollars A SHOT (350 dollars for a 10 week cycle) as opposed to me being able to get 6 vials of 10 week cycle 300mg test e online for 200 dollars plus shipping online.

100 is TRT for girls maybe.

>all the misinformed anti-roid people here
Well, i need to take the other side of the debate then.
All of you are posting misinformation. If your testosterone is low, increasing it is a good thing. The average male of today is far below optimal level.

>>510464049
I've read that multiple times, I would rather hear it from a live source. Like mentioned earlier, /fit/ are a bunch of fags and if you aren't taking massive amounts, then you get no help. Thanks for the resources. Steroidsourcetalk has great info. I'll enjoy my ban now. See ya anon!

>>510464243
Is test only available for injecting? I don't like needles. I would consider taking a little of it if it was in a more convenient form.

>>510464115
google Steroid Source Talk

>>510440313 (OP)
pooner thread

>>510464405
Gel, just keep it away from your wife or she will start pegging you

>>510463117
Not a pajeet you favela monkeyl

Steroids are just HRT under a different name. Just the other side of the same coin. It won’t make you happy, in fact you will only get worse and spiral into an addiction that destroys you.

>>510464470
Yeah, SST, MesoRX and there is another bog one.

Just nice to hear from another anon about a decent domestic source for leafs

>>510464367
You have to be weary of some live services, such as certain doctors. I was having blood pressure issues and got a fit young doctor who told me the test I was doing was completely safe and he talked to me about RFK, how everyone should be on creatine, how his clinic recommends no one take the vax, ivermectin being good, everything you'd hear on /pol/ and RFK threads.

The next day I went to the same office but next door and got a fat little Indian woman telling me my high blood pressure was from testosterone. My nutritionist buddy told me the gallon of milk a day and all the rice I was eating was the problem and I told the fat little Indian doctor that and she laughed in my face and told me "Asians eat rice all the time". Bitch I'm not fucking Asian, that's like saying white people drink milk all the time so all other races should be able to drink it, our ancestors evolved to drink it just like gooks can eat rice.

I kept roiding and dropped the rice. It was the fucking massive amount of rice I was eating, perfect blood pressure now. Certain doctors in America are fucking retarded.

>>510464405
Orals will fuck you up. Either do injections or don't do it at all.

>>510440534
wow, he's literally me...

>>510463942
Grey area, I think. Legal to buy and possess at least. Still gotta find a source though, cant get pharma easily.

>>510440313 (OP)
>>510440371
Taking a little don't hurt just be careful about it n shiet.

>>510464789
I talked to my doctor already about doing this but they wanted to do constant blood test and all this other crap I'm not going to do that the price involved to do that isn't worth it i'll just buy the stuff from a source and pin about 200 250 a week

>>510464924
If you do it by the lab work, you'll be in better shape than most people.

>>510464971
That's the spirit. If you have insurance (I used to get free insurance through work) you can get bloodwork pushed to your insurance.

>>510464789
How long did you cycle it for and what was your post Cycle Therapy

>>510464971
You should still get labs done occasionally, but yeah, skip the doctor

>>510465062
>he thinks I stopped pinning ever
I was taking some anti-estrogen medicine with my shots, forgot which. Had the word dex in it. But my estrogen wasn't even raising with the test shots when I wasn't taking them so I just stopped taking them.

>>510440371
It didn't happen to me and I've been on this shit since 2016.

>>510465244
Novaldex?

>>510440313 (OP)
You should try L-Citrulline instead.