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Anonymous ID: UX/4DHbqUnited States
7/16/2025, 7:29:04 AM No.510513182
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Mussolini
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What exactly is fascism?
I only ever see it used as a political epithet people use to describe their opponents, or as synonymous with government repression and lack of formal democracy in general.
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Anonymous ID: 7tmCjQ6BUnited States
7/16/2025, 7:31:31 AM No.510513303
>>510513182 (OP)
>government repression and lack of formal democracy in general.

More or less just this
Chris Hedges ID: ydAOa/KRUnited States
7/16/2025, 7:32:00 AM No.510513327
>>510513182 (OP)
If only there were some possible way to educate yourself on this better than asking a group of fucking stupid, pre-adolescent strangers.
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Anonymous ID: /5hfYB8FIndia
7/16/2025, 7:32:36 AM No.510513348
>>510513182 (OP)
Do you care about your family and yourself anon? Do you love yourself and your family and will do anything to preserve it ? Will you hate those that come after it
Now imagine putting this family on greater things like your nation
That, to some mentally ill people, is fascism
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Chris Hedges ID: ydAOa/KRUnited States
7/16/2025, 7:33:20 AM No.510513390
>>510513327
https://libgen.gl/index.php?req=Blackwell+dictionary+political+&columns%5B%5D=t&columns%5B%5D=a&columns%5B%5D=p&objects%5B%5D=f&objects%5B%5D=e&objects%5B%5D=s&objects%5B%5D=a&objects%5B%5D=p&objects%5B%5D=w&topics%5B%5D=l&topics%5B%5D=c&topics%5B%5D=f&topics%5B%5D=a&topics%5B%5D=m&topics%5B%5D=r&topics%5B%5D=s&res=100&filesuns=all
Anonymous ID: 7tmCjQ6BUnited States
7/16/2025, 7:33:47 AM No.510513417
>>510513348
The government isn't your family, moron
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Anonymous ID: /5hfYB8FIndia
7/16/2025, 7:43:23 AM No.510513869
>>510513417
They don't call supporting the govt Fascist anymore. Even nationalism and standing for your ingroup is called Fascist now
Anonymous ID: cb6AunhJNew Zealand
7/16/2025, 7:44:57 AM No.510513950
>>510513182 (OP)
Fascism is when you support things that liberals oppose.
Anonymous ID: sx0xXrqs
7/16/2025, 7:45:21 AM No.510513973
>>510513182 (OP)
Mussolini defined fascism as a merger between corporations and the State. China is probably a good example
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Anonymous ID: 9Y6zq365Italy
7/16/2025, 7:45:58 AM No.510513996
>>510513182 (OP)
Read Gentile's manifesto of fascism and Mussolini's doctrine
Anonymous ID: JXwiL/uDUnited States
7/16/2025, 7:46:31 AM No.510514025
>>510513182 (OP)
a politically syncretic ideology that depending on who you ask is far right, far left, or centristically both and/or neither at once but emerged from broad dissatisfaction with conventional reactionary parties as well as dire fear of communism and a hatred of do-nothing parliamentarian unipartyism, and can be boiled down in Mussolini's own words to the merger of state and corporate power (in which the state is the big spoon, unlike the modern inverse fascism most of the world now practices) to effect ultranationalist aims, class cooperation, expropriation of parasitic foreign & internally intransigent elements and to a lesser degree the overall leveling of wealth, that final plank ending up lesser in practice mostly due to compromises made with reactionary conservatives in order to enter power which would see the post Marxian fascist-syndicalists in Italy sidelined and many of the beefsteak social nationalists of the NSDAP killed for putsch plans that might have been largely fictional

in both cases this was to satisfy incompetent royalists who would go on to actively scheme against and constantly betray the regimes that ought to have purged them rather than their own loyalists, noisy and commie-ish though they may be. Japan didn't get so far as this because their young officer (proto) fascists were also fanatical monarchists, but the Emperor didn't want to rock the boat and killed them a time or two for mutineering in an attempt to institute a totalitarian regime to restore his own absolutist power, with the closest thing to a totalitarian party reaching power being a big tent organization that simply absorbed all the existing parties under emergency powers in what remained technically a continuing parliamentary system that was not quite as suspended as in Europe.

now everyone who clicks this (1) has a good definition to run away with
Anonymous ID: UX/4DHbqUnited States
7/16/2025, 7:48:39 AM No.510514123
>>510513973
Mussolini meant something different when he said "corporations"
">Corporatism is an ideology[1] and political system of interest representation and policymaking whereby corporate groups, such as agricultural, labour, military, business, scientific, or guild associations, come together and negotiate contracts or policy (collective bargaining) on the basis of their common interests.[2][3][4] The term is derived from the Latin corpus, or "body".
>Corporatism does not refer to a political system dominated by large business interests, even though the latter are commonly referred to as "corporations" in modern American vernacular and legal parlance. Instead, the correct term for that theoretical system would be corporatocracy. The terms "corporatocracy" and "corporatism" are often confused due to their similar names and to the use of corporations as organs of the state
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Anonymous ID: 7VHwxlF1
7/16/2025, 7:50:39 AM No.510514216
>>510513182 (OP)
Fascism is whenever someone says something that I don't like
Anonymous ID: wrd7wxZOAustralia
7/16/2025, 7:51:24 AM No.510514248
>>510513182 (OP)
It's a bundle of pricks tightly bound together cheating you and robbing you and grifting you, lying, being sly cunts and thieving and killing. Wimps who can't face the world alone so they hold each other's penis while they commit crimes.
Anonymous ID: hejfWwrIFrance
7/16/2025, 7:54:23 AM No.510514364
>>510513182 (OP)
Fascism is basically the final stage of capitalism. When the oligarchy gains absolute political power and does away with worker's rights.
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Anonymous ID: Lf0ohU4DUnited States
7/16/2025, 7:55:14 AM No.510514418
>>510513182 (OP)
Fascism is the brutality of capitalism coming home.
https://www.marxists.org/audiobooks/history/vlc/history-of-the-labour-movement/volume3/ch36.mp3
Anonymous ID: Lf0ohU4DUnited States
7/16/2025, 7:57:28 AM No.510514516
bateman
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>>510514364
If you kill them before they're fifty five, they can't draw retirement
Anonymous ID: tbQBaWakCanada
7/16/2025, 7:58:34 AM No.510514564
>>510514123
That's as clear as mud to my midwit sun stroked brain.
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Anonymous ID: Rc/yelZ0United States
7/16/2025, 8:01:24 AM No.510514696
>>510513182 (OP)
Everything must go towards the national good, you get capitalism but if top capitalists veer too far off course and hurt the well-being of the nation they are arrested and possibly even executed depending on how bad the offense was. Healthy capitalism is allowed, unhealthy capitalism is not.

Fascism is the ideal form of government.
Anonymous ID: YL3hrNTMItaly
7/16/2025, 8:01:45 AM No.510514713
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Here are the basics of Italian Fascism.
Nobody else on the internet knows these things as well as me, I am the greatest expert there is.

The key question is: "how does the INDIVIDUAL relate to the NATION?"

1. Fascism is NATIONAL.
This means it doesn't work for a Superpower (current USA) or an Empire (Austria-Hungary) or a city-state (Monaco, Luxembourg) or a supernational institution (the European Union) or a race (the White Race).
It was modeled for a nation like Italy, France, Germany.

2. Fascism is NATURAL.
Fascism rejects complication and brainy musings. The core tenet is not "God" or even "Tradition", but it is, rather, HEALTH AND NATURE. Fascism acts first and thinks later, because it is NATURAL.

3. Fascism is ORGANIC.
The Fascist Man is healthy and natural, and he is part of a Fascist Nation that is healthy and natural. The Nation is a large body made of bodies. Health and Nature. You are an organ of a larger animal.

4. Fascism is HISTORICAL
Fascism depends on its surroundings. Italian fascism had to thwart two opposing systems: liberalism and socialism. We have already seen one rejection of liberalism (anti-individualism) and one rejection of socialism (anti-intellectualism). But it has two more KEY elements: an anti-liberal idea named "Organic Democracy" (ask Grok) and one anti-socialist idea named "Corporativismo" (ask Grok).
All of this to bring forth a National Harmony, a National Unity to steer the masses and the means of production towards NATURE and HEALTH.

CAUTION:
you need to look up "Organic Democracy" and "Corporativismo", these are not side ideas but core elements.
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Anonymous ID: JXwiL/uDUnited States
7/16/2025, 8:06:32 AM No.510514916
>>510514564
both state and private companies or guilds operating on simultaneously nationalist directives and ordinary marketeering profit interest when and where the latter doesn't violate the former, with companies organized and viewed as abstract organs like a heart or lung in the body of an industrial nation

it's higher minded state capitalism with a middle class bent and a hope to not allow the cancer of modern hypercapitalism to ever come into existence through collectivist policy and just dethroning or killing (((those))) who don't behave while giving government the tools for interventionism without stamping out small businesses entirely nor making large tycoons run for the hills
Anonymous ID: jM8oBa5vItaly
7/16/2025, 8:06:44 AM No.510514927
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> This thread
> Again
Anonymous ID: D6Y1BGuUUnited States
7/16/2025, 8:08:36 AM No.510515007
>>510513182 (OP)
no one honestly knows
when you search for an objective definition, it all devolves into some rewrite of history from the survivor's account after the fact

they have been so utterly booty blasted by hitler they can't even think straight when trying to define what he was doing
no one cares about benny because he was a total dumbfuck and failure right off the bat
Anonymous ID: jM8oBa5vItaly
7/16/2025, 8:11:53 AM No.510515148
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>>510514713
Istituto luce are such greedy kikes it's unbelievable. They still watermark 90+ year old images and release them all in a botched resolution. Meanwhile the US has a fantastic set of photos taken by national authorities in the first half of the XX century, often in colour, and you can find them all for FREE online in native resolution.
Abbiamo un patrimonio fotografico colossale della civiltà Italiana del Ventennio, e fanno di tutto per non farlo conoscere.