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I’m sorry but I cannot accept current Russia until the tsardom returns.

Boom boom

Enjoy the bread.
Z
>New baker needed.
New baker sneeded.
>New baker needed.
New baker sneeded.
>New baker needed.
New baker sneeded.

Dobropillya to Kramatorsk is becoming the highway of death. This is 24km from the Russians positions and fpv drones own it.

>>510611320
Don't you guys all become monks during the rainy season?
Did this whore catch you?

Why should the Russians destroy bridges when they make a good place for an ambush.

>>510611401
You don't always necessarily have enough ordnance in place for an ambush.

>>510611393
Kek, that whore is 100% thai epstein monk edition

>>510611064 (OP)
Is this mosin nagant

a) WTF are 2.75 inch / 70mm air defence warheads?
b) the US doesn't have abundant Patriots to give
c) HIMARS and ATACMs are now countered by Russian AD and Iskankers
d) UH-60s seriously?

Stop posting that fucking schizophrenic's tweets. Is that secretly you?

>>510611502
And what about this?
Did you seduce and rob this britbong?
Daily Mail is really going after Siam this morning.

>44 posts by this mutt
>during a fucking 8h night thread
wew laddy

>>510611358
>don't care, get in the pickup Mykola

>>510611610
That's common occurence and not worthy for news

>>510611557
This is "secretely" me

>>510611064 (OP)
Previous: >>510599161
Thanks for the bread.

>israel now bombs damascus like it bombs iran and gaza
Where is the ummah? How many times are these Arab retards going to let Israel conquer them.

>>510611799
You I like

>>510611557
Post more tweets from more schizophrenics

>>510611802
Oh fuck, I was in a rush thanks froganon.

>>510611358
Is the road to Pavlograd similarly controlled?

>>510611839
>Post more tweets from more schizophrenics

>>510611320
airburst iskander has a very large and effective frag pattern

>>510611512
just lend lease it all away, is that simple

>>510611839
I can understand why the NAFOid thinks that. They're big on induction (because they're low IQ).
>It worked out like that several times before, so it'll work out the same way in Russia.
What he fails to realize, is that russkies aren't quite as dumb as the S*rbs, or the Libyans, or the Syrians.
God I hate S*rbs.

>Another exchange of the dead took place.
>Russia took another 19 bodies of our fallen soldiers.
>Another 1,000 killed Ukrainian soldiers were handed over to the enemy

Good afternoon

>>510612473
henlo fren
>>510612380
thats a yikes from me. hohols will never be informed about this, or will get the numbers reversed.

>>510612473
Did you increase pay for your beloved worker yet?

>"The seriousness of the situation on the frontlines was recently laid out in detail by Olexandr Solonko, a soldier currently serving in Donetsk Oblast. I strongly recommend reading the translated version closely if you’re trying to understand the situation on the ground. Thread:"

>please stop....
>if you interviewed nearly any infantry man in any front line in any MAJOR war you will get the same thing. stop being a doomer...

>the fact is that in 1991 at the battle of norlfolk i thought we may be losing the war that night.

>an infantry soldier only sees what they see in front of them.. and if we believed YOU russia would be in lviv last week. ukraine is doing MOST of the things right.. but you refuse to say that.

heckin doomers...

>>510612473
henlo, anything to confess?
>>510611393
>>510611610

>From July 10 to July 13, Rubicon combat crews attacked rail transport used by the Ukrainian Armed Forces to deliver military supplies. Diesel locomotives were hit near the village of Belozerskoye near Dobropolye. The train derailed.
>At a maximum distance of 27 km from the frontline, Rubicon drones strike at the logistics of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, which until recently seemed impossible. The concept of drone warfare is being written today by the hands of our pilots.
https://files.catbox.moe/twnbms.mp4

>>510612763
24h to fix by russian rail forces, never in hrukraine

>>510612513
no
>>510612655
i hate working

>>510612849
They're not targeting the rails, but the engines

>>510611512
Excuse me, what are they making in Europe?
Tanks? Is Russia still considered Europe or are we talking the EU specifically?
Aircraft?
Artillery?
None of that is made in Europe right now, all the industries are fucking dead

>>510612546
>Yeah but we're building yet another defensive line 10km to the West
Still appalled by the fact that no breakthrough has been achieved to mop everything up. Both sides seem to be committed to this idea of grinding as many ukrainians to paste as possible.

>>510613208
THD will continue until morale improves

>>510611799
Russians have some weird obsession with nigger females and pornstar roasties

>>510613426
>>510611799
I guess this is the result from soullessness derived from the commie period

>>510613426
>Russians have some weird obsession with nigger females
It's literally just me

>>510612546
What a lolcow of a British Boomer. I wonder if the 'farms has a topic on him

zZz
Death to NAFO

>>510613521
>British
He's American, somewhere in Texas

>>510612546
>heckin doomers...
Here's the thread Tatarigami posted that Diabeetus David was so upset about

>The seriousness of the situation on the frontlines was recently laid out in detail by Olexandr Solonko, a soldier currently serving in Donetsk Oblast. I strongly recommend reading the translated version closely if you’re trying to understand the situation on the ground. >Thread:
>2/ We are approaching a moment when we will very likely face another major crisis on the front. While the world's powerful play their games of "two weeks" and "50 days" and try in every way to demonstrate resolve where there is none, we will have to withstand the desperate pressure of the Russians. Both on the front and in the rear
>3/ Where we are now: The Russians believe that if they press with all their might now, they can finally break us. This belief is based, among other things, on the long, attrition war, the escalation of regular attacks on military targets, the defense industry, and the terrorizing of civilians in the rear
>4/ They aim to undermine our economic potential, disrupt mobilization through subversive activities, propaganda, and now airstrikes, as well as aggressive informational and semantic warfare. Their often successful efforts to undermine Ukraine's support from foreign actors...
>5/ ...while having the backing of China, North Korea, and foreign companies that love money and sell anything that helps them fight against us. And also some of Ukraine's Western neighbours, who are our open enemies.
>6/ Russians believe that the cumulative effect of these 3.5 years will soon yield results. Whether in 60 days or end of the year, the exact timeline is not as crucial. Whether the West will back its words with action and whether we can fix our mistakes will determine the outcome
Contd. at https://archive.md/wNTyJ

>>510611320
>>510611264
Fingols are getting smug again bros

>>510613772
That's the
>tranny
>pigger
>coward

/chug/ supports state mandated foot fetish and the worship of feet.
Russia invaded the ukraine to get high on girl feet smells

>>510612763
The reason the picture becomes shit as it gets closer is because of jamming?

>>510614046
no the signal just gets worse closer to the ground

>>510611504
boobies

>>510614551
I dont get it. He literally say its real.

>>510611512
>WTF are 2.75 inch / 70mm air defence warheads
Presumably a retarded description of 70 mm hydra rockets with APKWS guidance kit.

>>510614621
dummy

>>510614551
Really gets the big think juice flowing, doesn’t it?

>>510613731
wtf is this total copium, Russia meat wave attacks and if we can just sort our some of our problems we can stop them... lol, lmao. Hohols are completely deluded.

>>510613499
she do be hot tho

>>510614708
>Presumably a retarded description of 70 mm hydra rockets with APKWS guidance kit.
TIL Ukraine claims a Kh-59 kill using these legacy rockets with a laser guidance kit bolted on from a boat

>>510614832
I still dont get it. He says its real. Even affirms it with santa and the tooth fairy.

>>510611808
>these Arab retards going to let Israel conquer them.
It's part of the grand plan to launch bio jihad later.
Pic related

>>510614947
>Russia meat wave attacks and if we can just sort our some of our problems we can stop them... lol, lmao. Hohols are completely deluded.

>7/ The main point is this: they hope that their "last and decisive" push will bring the desired effect. That by burying the infantry of another dozen motorized rifle regiments in the Donetsk region, they will collapse our front.

Apparently arch lich Putin is going to casually sacrifice 12k Russians to punch through the Donbass front but ofc is going to resurrect them afterwards

wishing everyone a comfy day. thx@god...for creating china #
Z

>>510614947
they have to autocensor A LOT, desu

'ate zogbots
'ate nafo
'ate hohols
'ate nazis
'ate p0lacks
'ate trannies

luv Russia
luv Poland
luv Poles
luv Wagner
luv Alfa

>>510615252
I thank god everyday for making feet taste look and smell soo good

>>510615209
>Pic related
> be born a man and join a community with an ancient tradition of homosexual sex work
> "A Muslim hijra stabbed me with a syringe and I got HIV"

>>510615252
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jqOSDq0Ssc&list=RD5jqOSDq0Ssc&start_radio=1

>>510615339
chad of the day

>>510615435
ohhh s-savedAACKKK

>>510612546
Pleeeeeease stop! His psyche can't handle the truffles. Muh lynx!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8xIWuWd9b0
holy shit i look like this

>>510611839
What the fuck is that graph kek

>>510611936
>Is the road to Pavlograd similarly controlled?
Perhaps only the final part because its always been a lot closer to the Russian on the west flank of Pokrovsk.

>>510615657
Slava Bandera
Death to eu

>>510611839
The more ressistence requires more amperag to keep the same potential, therefore as long as there is potential that Ukraine ceases to exist with increased ressiliance fire power of Russia increases

>>510611936
>>510615855
The E50 highway west of Pokrovsk is 25km of wide open terrain with not trees so Russians would see any vehicle coming from miles away.

>>510615951
nice and flat

>>510616084

>>510615329
Luv me polis national gard fren

>>510612992
>They're not targeting the rails, but the engines
they can't ship freight without engines and they can't even convert and use European locomotives because the rail gauge is wider than the Euro gauge.

>>510616084

Hello terror friends!

I painted my house today between checking twitter for gains.

i just got banned from ukrainian MGE edit discord server because i forgot i had a status "Zagroshi Soso resident"

>>510616330
hello christoforou

>>510616275
Accurate.

>>510615657
>ruining TF2 edits
Embarrassing.

looks like Russia is serious about a push on the Kharkov - Kupyansk front. They're opening up a new incursion every week.

>>510616426
they're perfect

So what happened with that big hohol drone/stormshadow attack I read about before going to bed? Surely Moscow is in ruins.

anglokikes are ramming into russia via armenia and (((azerbaijan))). how serious is it for russia? i despise that cryptokike aliev so much

>>510616468
The Ukrainian counter offensive in Kharkov was 20,000. I wonder how many they have lost trying to hold it.

>>510615252
Z
Xi

Will this make you ambush and kill tcc?

>>510616555
50,000 old chap
Including FOG undesirables

>>510616562
Breadly reminder that Humanity (and especially anyone of European descent) will soon need to choose between tonguing jew anus, money, banks and capitalism on the one side and survival on the other.

>>510616468
I think it's just a distraction or targets of opportunity, there is nothing important there, but Ukraine still needs to defend it. The goal seems to be forcing Ukraine to divert resources to defend small villages far away from the actual battles.
Kupiansk is deffinitely a target, not the primary target ATM, but Kupiansk -> Liman should be on the list considering it would indirectly help Donbas front.

>>510616652
but but but... if no capitalism then no private property

why? because mister shekelstein told me on CNN

>>510616532
>ramming
seriously what is it with muslims and sheep

>>510616652

preventive strikes are possible

>>510616532
>ramming
if Azerbaijan took casualties and emigration Ukraine took their state would become depopulated wasteland

>>510616697
>but but but... if no capitalism then no private property
>why? because mister shekelstein told me on CNN
And yet all capitalist countries can be plainly observed and noticed to have property taxes. Curious.

>>510616205

>>510616742
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b39CfCN2bNE&list=RDb39CfCN2bNE&start_radio=1

>>510616532
Armenia will be like Kurdistan, used, abused and dumped at the Turkish whims
idk how Armenian diaspora can look at that shit and support it.
Azerbaijan are just rats, they come back into the fold the moment they find it prudent to do so.

>After allegations of Russian interference in the election surfaced, several Japanese Twitter accounts known for posting far-right news were simultaneously suspended

>>510616400
it was probably because you're fat

>>510616835
oh nooo Russians want Japan to stay Japanese?

evil EVIL EVIL NUKE RUSSIA

>>510616835
>Guy 1: Russia is evil!
>Guy 2: No, it's not!
>Guy 2 has been banned for posting Russian disinformation. This is interference in elections.

>>510616652
Most of the world has already chosen. Eurogolems are the last holdouts on the World Continent.

>>510616835

>>510616835
It looks like you use the Russia hoax to take down your right-wing political opponents.

>>510616886

>>510614551
if ever there was Zero doubt about anyone being a paedo, its our boy stevey.

>>510616835
Why don't the nips just elect a kike at this point since they seem to bend the knee every time

>>510612546
Diabetus dave is the biggest xitter lolcow of this war

Gentlemen, I will be home today to update the news and clips if need be
Also, you’ve heard of dead pigger storage, but have you heard of frozen nusrats?

Is there a site that actively follows the exact amount of territory that the russians control in each of the oblasts? I know of war mapper, but that is very outdated, the last update was from 01.04.

no more big booms in kyyyiyv and odessa. sad.

>>510617015
https://deepstatemap.live/
divgen.ru

>>510617015
I use RIA but it is in Russian and by Russians.

BYMB HYHYLS!

https://youtu.be/g-iUndnzAU8

it's been awhile since we got a fresh oink graveyard kino

>>510616692
>there is nothing important there, but Ukraine still needs to defend it.
yes, this is the limitation they impose on themselves. That village RF grabbed today has literally 3 houses and all for that, some regiments are going to be thrown into that particular secto
there's an undefended stretch of the front between Kharkov and Poltava that RF could send a proooobing attack through, see how the Ukrainians like being attacked *from* Grayvoron after they attacked it in 2023.

>>510617115
god i wish that was me

Two weeks of no alcohol, I did it and I feel better for it.

>>510616753
>muh private property
>rigged financial system prices most out of owning property anyway

Defending capitalism is grade A Stockholm syndrome.

>>510613846
But Russia won the winter war, in fact Finland lost more territorium than they were initially offered as a trade. That said it was a total shit show, but it was also crucial as without the Germans would likely have succeed with operation Barbarossa

he forgor

>>510614046
>The reason the picture becomes shit as it gets closer is because of jamming?
>>510614308
>no the signal just gets worse closer to the ground
Its true the signal gets worse closer to the ground, but not that bad, this is jamming for sure. Look at the static while it's still fairly high up

>UK government to lower voting age to 16 for the next general election.

lol haahahhhaha

>>510617290
The Winter War is exactly how the West is going to spin this war.
>get offered a deal
>refuse
>start war
>lose more than you would have lost if you took the deal
>claim you won because you kill 500 billion russians (just trust us) and stopped Russia from taking over Europe (which wasn't their goal to begin with)
This is 100% what is going to happen.

>>510613521
He's a "disabled combat vet" from Texas.
If you give me like ~5 minutes i can give you his army roles (based on his twitter profile), as well as potential deployments and phone number.

>>510614972
>TIL Ukraine claims a Kh-59 kill using these legacy rockets with a laser guidance kit bolted on from a boat
The range of these rockets is abysmal, when fired from an arial platform you essentially have 4-5km to work with, ground based would be worse. The missiles would have had to essentially pass straight over the launch platform.

>>510616916
Really sad to know the reality most people live in here is made by this decrepit regime and no one has a clue about the world outside of it. Like a clownworld matrix.

>>510612763
>>510612849
Railway infrastructure can be fixed surprisingly quickly, but you need to get heavy machinery and crews in. Which hohols probably can't, as those will get picked off by drones too.

>>510617432
*slaps your doro*

>>510617010
ummahbros...

>>510614972
Eh, it's not impossible as long as the cruise missile is flying towards the launcher and is spotted early enough. They're not hard targets.
The Gerans will be vulnerable to them too, if they fly low. With high approaches only during terminal approach, and even then probably only if the designated impact point is reasonably close to the launcher. Doubt these missiles achieve high lateral load factors, but I'm too lazy to search for documentation.

>>510617651
I wonder how they convey the target to the helicopter.

>>510617319
>europe will pay
this is what pete hegseth said in his munich speech which everyone misinterpreted as a call to end the ukriane war
and it's in project 2025

>>510617010
His people are suffering more than ever, but I hope he can smile at this from heaven

>>510617306
Hesco barrier spotted.

>>510616468
>Just the tip
I was wondering when Russia was going to take that little pointy area. If they don't Ukraine would set up a big forward base there once the war ends just to be assholes because it extends so deep into Russia.

>>510612086
>Nobody pays

>>510617863
krasnov spoke about it in his first term already

>>510617306
Those are some poor, damn trenches lmao

>>510617906

>>510617651
KAPOW nigga

>>510617194
it's possible, but I think Russians are more likely to do something like that in Sumy
Zelinskyiyi considers Sumy the most important front, the closer you are to Kiev, the more important you are
Following that train of logic, it would make sense for Russians to prepare a force and get somewhere in Sumy or Chernigov oblast. It would be much more effective than feinting towards Kharkov because everybody knows Russians are not going to siege a city of 2mil people.

>>510617936
true

Sup ziggers, has Russia captured any twigs today?

>>510617781
>>510617883
It’s getting worst lmfaooooo
>Israel gives HTS, and Syrian army weeks to vacate Darra

>>510617424
this can't be real
Stammer tiktok-ing to zoomers when?

>>510617803
>Eh, it's not impossible as long as the cruise missile is flying towards the launcher and is spotted early enough.
yeah sure but the rockets are meant to be salvo fired from helis at area ground targets and were introduced in 1972 to target patches of jungle in Vietnam. Apparently they had a range of 8km.
And now they've put expensive laser targeting and steering kits on each rocket, reducing the range and greatly increasing the cost. Then you take all that and fire it from the surface on a ballistic trajectory relying on god knows what to set the time of launch and the angle + azimuth.
as the norwegianon says, the range is probably greatly reduced.

>>510617850
They don't have to, just point your own laser designator at it.
But I am legit unsure what this projectile is. An artillery shell wouldn't come flying at this angle, but it doesn't really look like a rocket either. In fact it appears to be some kind of tracer round, which makes little sense for a laser guided projectile, yet if it's a missile that's rather old fashioned.

>>510618040
>mfw

>Hohols complain that sometimes they meet our fpv drones with solar panels at the front.
>Of course, they cannot fully provide the drone and there is a battery, but such drones are used, as it is assumed, either as a repeater or as a reconnaissance. For example, this one is on a water tower.
>Thus, it turns out that solar batteries help keep the fpv on for a long time.

>>510617979
>It would be much more effective than feinting towards Kharkov because everybody knows Russians are not going to siege a city of 2mil people.
ackshually, you need a lot of men to take a contested city but a lot less to encircle it, given that the Ukrainians have been falling back just about everywhere. Is it likely? No. But Ukraine has to be under insane pressure now.

>>510614972
>>510617515
>>510618138
Reusing unguided rocket motors for other things or giving them a guidance kit isn't exactly new.
Usually this evolves into a proper guided missile at some point, but whatcha gonna do about the million old hydra rocket motors laying around?

>>510613208
>Both sides seem to be committed to this idea of grinding as many ukrainians to paste as possible.
The Euro-peon is frightened by practical military strategy

>>510618145
it's probably korean

So who's gonna pay for weapons to judenkraine?

>>510618313
Germany

>>510618145
Pretty sure its LMUR and they have TV guidance.

>>510618216
Produces a couple of Watts, so if it just sits parked on a roof somewhere in decent weather it definitely collects some Wh every day, maybe 5-10, which is enough to fly around for a bit or run low-powered equipment.

>>510616835
the US interferes in every election in their sphere and it's not a secret

>>510618138
They're just used as a rocket motor, nothing much has changed about that since then. APKWS was designed with (unmaneuverable) air targets as one of the engagement scenarios in mind.
>expensive laser targeting system
If I'm not jumbling up my numbers from memory here these things go for little more than 10k$ a pop. That's at least four times cheaper than a Stinger (or comparable western MANPADS). If the MIC isn't syphoning too much money off these things should be cheap and easy to produce in large quantities.
>Then you take all that and fire it from the surface on a ballistic trajectory relying on god knows what to set the time of launch and the angle + azimuth.
The targeting computer does that for you. It doesn't operate fundamentally different than any other anti air missile, it will use proportional guidance to fly an intercept course. The engagement envelope is just way smaller due to poor range and lateral load factor, but that doesn't matter too much in a point defense scenario against comparatively slow, unmaneuvering targets.
Really, until fibrelasers become widespread this and autocannons firing AHEAD like munitions are the only practicable solution against Geran like drone spam. And unlike the latter this can be produced by the ten thousands within an acceptable timeframe.

>>510618423
Now we just need to add AI and an explosive and they can sit around for years before flying around to kill someone

>>510618310
>>510618408
Might be, yes. It's actually one of the more advanced systems of this type, mainly because everybody else gave up on the technology.

>>510613521
>>510617432

Assuming he's not coping in his description on X, he's probably been part in the Gulf War / Afganistan with a defnite maybe in Iraq.

Now, to break it down:
>14R - Bradley Linebacker Crewmember
>16R - Vulcan Crewmember
>96B - Intelligence Analyst
Adding to that, he also has stated (in Congress) that
>"i am a former non-comissioned officer in the army, where i drove military vehicles every day as a US Army certified master driver for nearly 22 years of service."

He's running a US Military museum in Temple, Texas, as well as a paintball club (as a way to cope with his PTSD that got him disabled vet status).

More deets here: https://pastebin.com/C7eNQB4p

https://files.catbox.moe/92pi8j.mp4

>>510618216
They can probably be kept aloft for a few hours extra with the solar panel, and can land somewhere safe to charge up on its own. With enough of them, you could create a mesh network deep into enemy territory that would be extremely annoying to get rid of.

>>510618495
Also make it look like an anime girl

>>510618495
It's funny and disappointing at the same time that all the fancy, impressive high tech shit developed in the late 80s to very early 2000s is just getting replaced by toycopters with a low tech RPG charge glued to them. Maybe drone countermeasures will become effective at some point and we'll have to go back to the more complex systems.

>>510618313
mostly americans, obviously
but we'll say it's europe

>>510618527
Is Sharon his chudette daughter?

when is king kike mobilizing foids? I want to laugh at their terror

>>510618532
should own a dobermann

>>510618621
We need to have an agreed upon war equipment. Make drones illegal, shotguns illegal, ect, war can only be fought with giant mechas.

>>510618408
>>510618499
It's literally a Krasnopol laser-guided shell fired from a howitzer.
Read the filename. >>510617651

>>510618453
>The targeting computer does that for you.
Yea sure stuff like the SVP-24 Gefest tells a pilot in an Su-24 the vector and speed of flight and indicates when the rocket salvo has to be fired. But we're not talking about firing stuff in a parabola at a fixed target, we're not even doing something like picking a particular point that an LMUR fired from a Heli has to hit. We're sitting in a truck or boat, trying to initiate targeting and laser guidance on a near supersonic cruise missile or a fiberglass drone. Sure a targeting computer can plot a solution but how would you target it? Particlarly given that today's cruise missiles and drones are constantly maneuvering and changing course throughout Ukraine? Ok maybe it's for point defence only and not midcourse interception but even if radar plots the track, does each rocket have an active laser? Surely not. Is the target lased by some other designator? How would that work other than pure dumb luck (assuming that the Ukrainian report is true)

>>510618816
I was going to say it looked like a flat trajectory fired artillery shell.

>>510611064 (OP)
saar...

>>510615896
>russian apocalypse games
Thats just Eastern Euro slice-of-life.

>>510618816
>Read the filename
>mutts
>reading
does not compute

I'm sensing a pattern here...

>>510618040

>A Zelenskyy and Honcharenko fight in the Rada.

>He asked Zelensky if there would be a demobilization of military personnel.

>Zelenskyy replied that the military would "return home when we defeat the enemies," and that they "deserve rotation when people like you are at the front helping them."

>To this, Honcharenko began shouting that "you need to have a conscience."

return home after defeating the enemy he said... LOLOL

>>510612879
Hope you're doing well anon l.

>>510618816
>read the filename
Why would a guided artillery shell need a tracer?

>>510618621
>It's funny and disappointing at the same time that all the fancy, impressive high tech shit developed in the late 80s to very early 2000s is just getting replaced by toycopters
A lot like how crossbows and later firearms made combat "unsporting" because ordinary serfs would kill highly teched up noble knights :)

>>510616835
(((far right)))

>>510618677
Wife. Katie's the daughter i think.

>>510618303
>TLDR version
>8 parts

>>510619030
They’re really working hard on the shill campaign for horse pussy.
I guess gacha is just that profitable?

>>510618621
Jamming will become so prevalent that we recreated Minovsky Particles. That's where the Gundam comes in.

Reporting gains.

>>510619124
Would liberate

>>510618621
>just getting replaced by toycopters with a low tech RPG charge glued to them.
This is not the case, we're seeing a media bias because of how easy it is to get footage of FPV drones versus how it's virtually impossible to get crisp up close footage of
>Artillery pounding the target
>Laser guided munitions
>Off-road/path mines
>Top-attack guided missiles
>Sabots going through a tank
>Traditional ATGM's
>Mortars
>Grenade launchers
Everybody is getting caught up in the FPV hype because that's exactly what we're seeing here on the internet. They're the poor mans ATGM/Artillery, they'll have their place. But the amount of bad takes surrounding them is crazy.

>>510619145
Genshin games are huge.

>>510618882
>We're sitting in a truck or boat, trying to initiate targeting and laser guidance on a near supersonic cruise missile or a fiberglass drone. Sure a targeting computer can plot a solution but how would you target it?
Like with any other air defense system, wait for the target to enter the engagement envelope and fire. No clue how the fire and control system for these trucks looks like, but this is really easy to implement nowadays.
>Particlarly given that today's cruise missiles and drones are constantly maneuvering and changing course throughout Ukraine?
They're really not. The Gerans can't in the first place, and the cruise missiles mostly fly straight and as low as possible. An anti air missile really needs minuscule flight performance and overload to intercept a target like this. The big limitation is detection time for cruise missiles and the limited engagement envelope making it necessary to be very close to the flight path or even the point of impact to have any chance for the anti air missile to even reach the target.
>Ok maybe it's for point defence only and not midcourse interception but even if radar plots the track, does each rocket have an active laser?
The earlier APKWS missiles are semi active laser homing, just like AGM-114 Hellfire or Krasnopol for example. A laser paints the target, a pretty dumb sensor at the front of the missile goes for wherever the strongest return signal of a specific wavelength is coming from. So you'd have either a radar or optical system tracking the target and simultaneously painting it with a targeting laser.
APKWS gen 2 has IR guidance for terminal approach I think, but I have no clue if those are produced in significant numbers. Increases cost, obviously.

>>510618993
zeihan created a whole branch of retardation with his demographic crisis bullshit

More gains.

>>510619201
She looks like she's Vucic's kid ngl.

>>510619271
That peter retard on jewtube? He's a grifter.

>>510619271
BUT WHO WILL TAKE CARE OF ALL THE OLD PEOPLE
HOW CAN A SOCIETY SURVIVE WITH SO MANY OLD PEOPLE
nigga they're going to die any second now it doesn't matter

>>510619212
I didn't save the picture sadly, but hohols published stats on the causes for their wounded/dead from the Pokrovsk front a month or two ago. Artillery was almost tied with mortars somewhere around 3 %, laser guided munitions, ATGMs and anything fired by a tank at sub 1%. The vast majority of their wounded/dead came frome mines and drones.
Artillery still plays a major role in bogging the enemy down avoid taking massive casualties of course, but it was really surprising at how much worke the drones actually get done. I would've been mostly with you on that line of reasoning before.

>>510619335
he's the one who popularized demographics dooming, claiming china (!) is going to run out of people

>>510619131
>tldr
>THD

>>510619002
>Why are you not at the front

>>510619394
>>510619335
someone has to tend to the farms

>>510619212
I read reports that when wounded are polled by both sides they report that drones account for the absolute majority of wounded
This could be a survivor bias as people targeted by cope drones are more likely to be lightly wounded while people affected by other weapons are more likely to be dead

>>510619216
Oh yeah, but that was as much good timing with anime-weebism finally going giga-mainstream, and phones becoming good enough to run open world games, along with the lockdowns.
This is quite clearly a large advertisement campaign more so than anything.
But I guess if they can land a large enough audience it will pay off hugely…

>>510618040
I thought it was just a misunderstanding. Rubiobros...

>>510619360
Don't you feel a burning need to provide for the same boomers that ruined the US and are planning to sell whatever they own (including their 30k when purchased - now 750k home) to permanently go on a cruise around the world? How dare you.

>>510617927

https://x.com/GeromanAT/status/1945796077677858858
Oh man, Pokrovsk is fucked.

>>510619505
KEK

>>510615660
Educate yourself

>>510619453
Enjoy: https://revenue.ennead.cc/revenue

>>510619505
TOTAL MUTT ROBBING

>>510619436
oh of course
and let me guess, china will collapse because they don't allow illegal immigration

>>510612546
>the mother of all information wars
Lmao what, these fags take themselves seriously. Just shooting out nonsensical propaganda that seems to do more harm for the Ukrainian cause then good. Also Norlfolk was a total steamroll, close battle my ass.
>>510614551
He's a West Palm perv just like Epstein, many such cases.

>>510619593
>Croatia
>Slovenia
>very low Hitler particles
LOL
LMAO

>>510619505
umm

>>510619335
Zeihen is feeding copium to mutts so that they go gently into the night

TCC buildings in Krivoy Rog and Kanev got hit by Gerans

>>510619593
>Croatia
>Austria
>barely any Hitler particles

>>510619201
pls no bully the cootie

>>510619593
This is true. Sometimes I can barely see a meter ahead due to the Hitler particle density.

>>510619733
TCC offices will soon be entirely located in the basements of appartment blocks

>>510618532
amateurs, real TCC veterans would've bussified the dog as well

>>510619216
>>510619594
On the same note, if I recall that one news article correctly, Genshin Impact reached 5 billion $ in revenue in China alone by early 2025, with total global revenue close to hitting 10 billion by eoy.
But yes, it's more of an outlier rather than the norm, given that it was launched during the pandemic. It's also not a 2D png collector

>>510619593
>very low
The audacity of this subhuman, he ought to be thrown in the pit.

>>510619220
>They're really not. The Gerans can't in the first place, and the cruise missiles mostly fly straight and as low as possible.
I think you're wrong, anon, picrel. There's a lot of reports of cruise missiles and drones vectoring to attack cities from the West, for example.
> So you'd have either a radar or optical system tracking the target and simultaneously painting it with a targeting laser.
That's the part that seems really tough to me to jerry-rig. You have to have dispersed laser emitters (maybe part of the APKWS SAM site) tied to a radar / optical+IR sensor net that's easy and cheap to produce and that's slaved to the APKWS firecontrol. Do you see that as being even reasonably effective?

>>510619807
yea woman too, fuckin plonkers

>>510619733
The sound of Gerans will be a source of joy for hohols soon
The lack of wectroon AD engaging ground attack mode and killing random civilians also doesn't hurt

>>510619815
>Genshin Impact reached 5 billion $ in revenue in China alone by early 2025
gacha is too addicting for some...

>>510619002
>zelensky is now, why aren't you at the front, posting

>>510620078
Fate Grand Order is a png collector and has notoriously bad rates, if my memory serves me right.

>>510618816

> filename can never be wrong

>>510619889
>I think you're wrong, anon, picrel. There's a lot of reports of cruise missiles and drones vectoring to attack cities from the West, for example.
Anon, those turns have a turning radius of a couple dozen kilometers.
>That's the part that seems really tough to me to jerry-rig. You have to have dispersed laser emitters (maybe part of the APKWS SAM site) tied to a radar / optical+IR sensor net that's easy and cheap to produce and that's slaved to the APKWS firecontrol. Do you see that as being even reasonably effective?
All part of one system, maybe with additional target information from external, longer range tracking systems.
It's really not difficult to designate the target, we've been building things like that since the 60s and strapping them on planes. On a truck you don't even need a gyro stabilizer or whatever, the track rate you need can slower and for APKWS you deal with (very) short ranges on top of that. Every Krasnopol hit you've seen had the target marked by a low cost Orlan-10 or a comparable drone. Laser target designation systems can be built very crudely.

>>510618532
sad. shouldn't have opened the door.

>Keith Kellogg left Ukraine yesterday, — RBC
>He was supposed to visit for a week, but left earlier than planned.
it's yvir

>>510620174
>filename can never be wrong
True

>>510616555
>The Ukrainian counter offensive in Kharkov was 20,000
The original assault yes, but then it got reinforced with another 30K pulled from the south.

It was wild when they could have 3 fronts with 20-30K soldiers each and a mobile reserve of another 30-35K that could reinforce whatever front showed most promise.
That was 120K soldiers involved in a three prong offensive, that's a proper field army!

The Kursk incursion was the biggest in over a year and it peaked at something like 20K at any given time, with resources pulled from defenses all along the front line to maintain the force.
20K is still a lot, but the only way they could even reach that was by removing soldiers from defenses.
And to maintain it?
Even more soldiers from the mobile defenses had to be pulled, primarily from Kupyansk, Avdeyevka and Zapo where they were already getting hammered.
In real terms the actual available offensive force last year (without depleting defenses) was about 10-12K.

So despite Ukraine recruiting some +30K soldiers per month (officially 1-1.2K contract soldiers per day) over the last two years, their offensive capability has dropped by 90% or ~110K soldiers.
And their defensive units are down to 40% strength with large parts of the front having only a handful of soldiers per km, relying on drones to cover the gaps.

We are living in accelerating times.

>>510620257
Keith's visit culminated prematurely

>>510611504
No
Its more likley a japanese aryousacka deez nuts rifle

>>510619505
>87% loss rate
Abraps family bros not like this.

>>510620148
yeah, there are better games

>>510620257
mission accomplished

>>510617883
his brother fighting HTS jihadi GOD bless their family

>>510618816
Filename is wrong you stupid nigger.
Trajectory is wrong, and velocity is even more wrong when you account for trajectory.
This is LMUR or similar.

>>510620307
does that mean... merika is ... impotent?

>>510619216
>120gb+ on Xbawks
Is this thing worth it?

>>510620427
>>87% loss rate
When does the
>>510617927
>everybody sees how well Abrahams does and buys more of it
part kick in?

>>510620526
Yeah, that's why Russia has been fucking its bitch (Ukranny) for 3.5 years straight with no lube

>>510620506
it's a korean laser guided hwasong whatever missile system

>>510613846
Winter war was based
Bolsheviks used ukrannies to spot fingols with their bodies for artillery

>>510615329
Literally me

>>510620475
It's a shame it will probably end badly for the Druze

>>510620223
>Anon, those turns have a turning radius of a couple dozen kilometers.
yeah sure; I wanted to show that it wasn't "straight line and low" as you had said earlier
>>510620223
>Every Krasnopol hit you've seen had the target marked by a low cost Orlan-10 or a comparable drone. Laser target designation systems can be built very crudely.
Again, we're not talking about a Krasnopol hit on a fixed ground emplacement, we haven't even seen a single example of a Krasnopol hit on a slow moving target as far as I can see. We're talking about somehow marrying radar and / or optical sensors to a dispersed net (or just set) of lasers to accurately pick out and transmit targeting information about to lasers that is moving in 3D at high (and even near-supersonic when it comes to cruise missile) speeds. This isn't just about how cheaply a laser can be built, that's hardly the biggest problem.

>>510619335
same as Fukuyama, he's quite literally a paid shill. Which does make him much more successful than an average nafo fag.
It's important to note that while everything he says is a lie, it can still be useful to check on him because you are getting a direct view into the neocon philosophy.

We didn't need Porkroast anyways

Blood status?

>>510616835
>every time West interferes in countries it suppresses the right-wing
Interesting

>>510620741
Fukuyama already took the doompill

>>510620786
Followed by
>We counterattacked and recaptured 5 building in porkroast the Russian didn't actually capture it

>>510620270
by now she's probably desperate enough to move to Russia, go for it anon, I believe in you

>>510619036
It’s not a tracer, it’s either a rocket assisted projectile or base bleed

>>510620590
I see... when I fuck it usually lasts 3,5 hours, I can relate

>>510620729
just like hamas another creation of mossad backfire but this time even worst because sharaa actually control country and even trumpo lifting sanction unlike taliban afghanistan or palestine gaza, i really wish zionist kike got the massive casualty attack from HTS but sadly not gonna happens it will be minority muslim sect and christian who got brutal outcome just like ISIS in IRAQ

>>510620862
he'll change his tune the moment he gets another contract from the State Department
if he's not too old and busted for them

>>510619699
>Austria
>low H-particles

>>510619271
It's only a problem if you are on the board of blackrock or filling up your country with millions of outsiders.
So it's a problem in the west currently, but it doesn't have to be, we just need corrupt politicians to start dying.

>>510619593
>hitler particles
i seem to have slept through my quantum physics class

>>510620617
Yeah, that I can believe.
I'm 100% sure it's not krasnopol.

>>510620738
>yeah sure; I wanted to show that it wasn't "straight line and low" as you had said earlier
For the context of air defense that is essentially a straight line. Even shitty anti air missile require high G maneuvers to dodge when you get into their engagement envelope.
>we haven't even seen a single example of a Krasnopol hit on a slow moving target as far as I can see
Me neither, but that's mostly due to limitations of the shell and the range offering the ability to just wait until whatever you want to nail is stationary. Tracking targets is trivial. I don't have any suitable webms, but here's the Litenig pod of an F/A-18E tracking an Su-22. Both at higher relative velocities and ranges than what short range anti air has to deal with.
>We're talking about somehow marrying radar and / or optical sensors to a dispersed net (or just set) of lasers to accurately pick out and transmit targeting information about to lasers that is moving in 3D at high (and even near-supersonic when it comes to cruise missile) speeds. This isn't just about how cheaply a laser can be built, that's hardly the biggest problem.
No. The laser is on the same assembly as your optical tracking system. It's zeroed to the center of the camera FoV once and after that just always points at what the camera is tracking. You don't need a disperse set of laser designators (even if it would be possible), only the launch units tracks and designates the target it is firing at.
How you assign targets to the lauch units is another question, but that's the case for every anti air system. It can be networked well with whatever other tracking systems are available, or operate autonomously, or anything in between. Gerans aren't hard to spot manually either, for cruise missiles a bit of advance warning will be necessary.

>>510621305
>>510620738
Well shit, forgot the video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2azWZ4QcrPA

>>510618717
>won't remember
Funny enough a bit of research done on this subject seems to indicate that the trauma of such a grievous bodily injury so soon after birth causes the brain to develop differently. If I recall correctly the end result is essentially a propensity to behaviour that could be described as psychopathic, i.e. not trusting others, having no empathy for others, being habitually dishonest, being quick to violence, not identifying with moral norms, etc

You do think that Russia should withdraw their invasion of Ukraine as soon as possible, right?

>>510612086
>akshully we mostly forgave it later
Tfw Russia and UK both had only closed their land-lease denbts by 2006.

>>510621425
No, I want them to go to Poland in order to weaken the US occupation of Europe

>>510621511
If we invest in European militaries then we can do both of these things:
1) Help Ukraine to push Russian invaders out of Ukraine
2) Reduce Europe's dependence on the US

>>510621425
No, I want them to go to Germany in order to weaken the US occupation of Europe

where bread

>>510621596
3) use added naval capacity to import more sub saharan engineers, doctors and rocket engineers, further increasing economic and defense capabilities

>>510621425
No, I want them to go to Pakistan in order to weaken the US occupation of India

>>510621596
Who's we? We should be pushing the US out of Europe. They're the ones who militarily occupy us, not the Russians.

>>510617651
That's something like a 25-30 degree angle.
So it's a range where the artillery piece is almost used as a field gun.

>>510620257
>He was supposed to visit for a week, but left earlier than planned.
What can he do?
They have an offensive capability smaller than the undefendable baltic chihuahua states, economy is beyond fucked and their military industrial complex is essentially children, women and cripples rewiring toys to carry explosives and use of hardware store tubing with some cheapo chink engines and domestic plastic parts to make loitering munitions...
The weapons still out perform whatever the mutts can realistically send to Ukranda, but the chink parts are getting hard to import due to Chinese export restrictions.

Everything is fucked, everyone is depressed and the polished exteriors displayed to Kellog can't even fool journalists at the Guardian or CNN.
And while everyone wants the war to end, everyone also wants the grift to continue no matter what. And any dissent from the official line equates to treason.

There is only one conclusion to draw, they can throw more money on a lost cause and throw any US power projection out the window.
Or they can take the L, lose all credibility as a military power with no redemption arc (not even the Houthis can be defeated).

As for Kellog, there is nothing more to learn or take in from Ukraine.
Maybe they could send raw plastic explosives and detonator caps to them and eye a simple distraction (Iran may play ball and let the mutts bomb them again given that the last time they not only got to retaliate proportionally, they also got sanctions relief).

I would look out for military buildup in Romania with a focus on Gagauzia, or increased support to the Phillipines or some shit in Syria.
Ukraine is just a drain for everyone and the goal is to forget them.

>>510621596
And the workforce, energy and infrastructure comes out of thin air?

>>510621305
>For the context of air defense that is essentially a straight line.
if you're doing point defence and you're stitching together radar / optical target detection + lasing + APKWS SAMs it is relevant because the munitions will arrive from different vectors at different speeds.
>The laser is on the same assembly as your optical tracking system.
hows that significant then if the engagement envelope of each APKWS SAM is minuscule? And optical-only? What about night time raids (most common) or when the cloud ceiling is low?
>>510621397
we're not talking about expensive Litening pods on F-18s anon, this is supposed to be cheap, dispersed but somehow yet effective point-defence weapons to such an extent that it makes sense as part of Diabetes Dave's wishlist

ITS OVER NO BREAD FÜR DIE WELT

>>510621596
Furthermore
>invest in European militaries
this is a direct instruction being given to Europe by the US. You are pretending that obeying their every whim will lead to a weakening of US influence. In practice what "investing" in European military will mean is European governments being forced to buy overpriced US military gear to keep their industries afloat at the expense of Europe.

>>510621767
WORLD HOLODOMOR HABBENING

whos BAKING?

>>510617290
>>510617428
our response /chug/chads?

>>510621625
See: >>510621596

>>510621654
Talent from overseas can be beneficial to a country's technology - just look at how Wernher von Braun benefitted the United States.

>>510621682
>Who's we
Europe
>We should be pushing the US out of Europe. They're the ones who militarily occupy us, not the Russians.
The US doesn't occupy Europe, it just has bases in Europe, but like I say, we can reduce that dependence on the US, if we build up European militaries. This additional European military capability would also help Ukraine to reclaim their country from Russian invaders.

>>510621726
No. Europe already has about 500 million people or thereabouts. More than the US.

>>510621918
sneed my balls

>>510621410
so basically a kike, makes sense

>>510621918
This is the same cope Ukrainians could have if they took the peace deal and were smart like us.

>>510620705
Chciałbym coś odpisać ale nie wiem nawet co :/

>>510621918

>>510621918

>>510621812
>In practice what "investing" in European military will mean is European governments being forced to buy overpriced US military gear to keep their industries afloat at the expense of Europe.
No it doesn't mean that at all. We should invest in, and purchase from, European military suppliers. BAE, Airbus, Rheinmetall, Dassault, etc.

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>>510621981
The US actually invaded and currently occupies Europe. And you are preoccupied with hypothetical "Russian invaders". You're a spiritual Yank.

>>510621981
Why should European blood and treasure be expended to defend US backed hohols instead of making peace with Russian security concerns?

>>510621762
>if you're doing point defence and you're stitching together radar / optical target detection + lasing + APKWS SAMs it is relevant because the munitions will arrive from different vectors at different speeds.
That's still just a matter of relaying information to your anti air system, same as to every other one. It does not require multiple target designation units.
>hows that significant then if the engagement envelope of each APKWS SAM is minuscule?
I don't understand what problem you see with this? Even for longer ranged anti air systems using more than one guidance vehicle is extremely rare.
>And optical-only?
They have radar too I think, but optical only systems have been used to decent success in the past, google IRST. The Stormer HVM uses that, for example, as do some Chinese Gepard equivalents. And jets, of course.
>What about night time raids
Thermal optics
>or when the cloud ceiling is low?
Tough luck. But how often will the cloud ceiling be below the relatively poor altitude the APKWS can engage targets at anyways? Everything above 1500 m is probably a crapshot, and that might be generous.
>we're not talking about expensive Litening pods on F-18s anon, this is supposed to be cheap, dispersed but somehow yet effective point-defence weapons to such an extent that it makes sense as part of Diabetes Dave's wishlist
Optical target (well, contrast, at the time) tracking was first realized with analog circuitry in the 50s. It is a task that has long since been solved effectively and cheaply. The cost of some of those systems doesn't come from their tracking ability, but from their optical train (high zoom/resolution requiring fat and expensive CCDs and lenses, mostly).

>>510621918
>convince the germans you are weak prey
>take half of europe

>>510621892
You just volunteered

>>510621918
>>510622003
Now to discuss this among peers: That anon is too far gone for rational discussion. Nothing you say will matter. If one's position is "Men are women" then there is nothing you can say to dissuade that person. Furthermore because of your lack of ability to flip the switch in that NPC's mind he will be convinced that his adherence to dogma means he is right.

something something hilter arguing with jews

>>510622250
>I don't understand what problem you see with this?
fundamentally I don't see target detection + hand off to laser + laser accurately picking out & lasing the fast moving target + APKWS SAM being fired and taking out the target, all before the target has left the tiny envelope.

>>510622140
>hypothetical "Russian invaders"
The invasion of Ukraine is only hypothetical is it?

>>510622202
I'm talking about European money sure. But I'm actually proposing LESS European bloodshed than the alternative. More European military spending now = less European bloodshed in the future. What happens when Russia wants to attack more of Europe? The way to prevent that is to build up European military capabilities now.

>making peace with Russian security concerns
That's like saying "we should make peace with Hitler's security concerns". Hitler didn't have security concerns - Hitler just wanted to conquer more land. The same is true of Putin.

>>510622250
>>510622420
addendum: all done cheaply and effectively

putler can't even pay his bakers. It's over chugbros. /uhg/ won, Russia lost

BAKING
BAKING
BAKING

isch over

>>510621918
>our response /chug/chads?
Typical westoid history revision.

Even when they lose they win.
And they always lose.

>Tu144 was result of industrial espionage of Concorde anda cheap copy, despite looking completely different and being the first to fly and enter service with higher top speeds (in fact the USSR got inspired by marketing brochures, and took the concept from "artist renditions" to real flying aircraft faster than the west could go from completed R&D to flying machine).
>"We won in Vietnam", despite getting our shit kicked in (muh KD, when only counting US losses and ignoring the bulk of the ground forces which was their Vietnamese proxies)
>Soviets lost in Afghanistan, despite achieving all military goals and installing a regime that held their grounds for over a year after the USSR got dissolved
>Finland loses all land they fought over in the winter war and continuation war, "muh KD". Karelia, Viborg etc are all Russian now. And Karelia was offered to Finland, for free (including the parts in Soviet before the wars started).
>USSR is first in every milestone of the space race, US plants a man on the moon and declares victory.
>Houthis kick mutts out of the red sea and retains the naval blockade, US launches a few missiles and bails. Declares victory.

How do we solve Ukraine's very unique demographic crisis?

>>510622420
That's not really the order of actions, or how it would work, especially for very short ranged systems.
- target is detect long before it enters the engagement envelope the missiles flight perforamance offers
- target is tracked with optical system, which means the laser is automatically pointing at it too since it's essentially glued to the side of the camer
- missile is fired when/if target enters engagement envelope
That's the same for pretty much ever yother SAM system too.

>addendum: all done cheaply and effectively
The targeting system will be cheaper than what almost every other air defense system uses, and so are the interceptors. Effectively is a different question. With ground based launchers the range is extremely short, but if you're using them for point defense of targets you know will be attacked that's not necessarily that much of a problem. Gun based systems fill a very similar role.

>>510622612
Import russians

>>510622472
>>510622486
>>510622456
>>510622456
NEW BREAD
NEW BREAD
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>>510622539
>>510622539

>>510622452
>The invasion of Ukraine is only hypothetical is it?
I'm not Ukrainian mate.
>What happens when Russia wants to attack more of Europe?
You should be asking what happens the US empire expansion creates more war on Europe? And this war is the result. And you still support it because you support US occupation. And you also think "Europe" is a legitimate sovereign entity.
>- Hitler just wanted to conquer more land. The same is true of Putin
This war exists because of US backed NATO expansion to conquer more territories in the east and Russia finally responded after decades of provocation. Why do you allow US to commit any invasion, occupation, commit any crime, destroy any infrastructure, exploit any European country, yet Russian sovereignty is the red line for you?

>>510622420
>>510622671
Oh, forgot I actually have a good example. The Pantsir often uses optical tracking, for example in this webm.

>>510621511
insallah brother, death to america
we need to take back colonies

>>510616835
Remember when CNN said that complaining about groceries prices and rent, inflation hitting 9% in the US, illegal immigration defacing big cities, was labeled as “Russian disinfo” by “experts”, “journalists” and “the intelligence community”? I think I still got the screencap.

>>510617424
How White is the UK under 16? Genuine question, but I'm afraid of the answer.