The only thing I want is a house. I don't care about anything else. I want a place of my own, my castle. Even a small house, I want my own lair.

People not understanding this is 90% of nowadays problems is incredible to me. People don't get children because they don't have a stable home.
People in the past were poor. But they had a house. Low quality or high, but they had a house.

Now we don't have houses. Instead we have 1000 useless gadgets made of china plastic. But we do not have the most important thing.

I can't form a family unless I have my home. I can't work without a home. 2/3 of what I earn go towards my rent alone. There is no escape.

>>510635712 (OP)
I told you to buy a car you could live in

>>510635712 (OP)
>People in the past were poor. But they had a house. Low quality or high, but they had a house
This is what actually makes me depressed. Even in those Industrial Revolution era stories where everyone is piss poor, they still had a house.
>It was a shack
They still fucking had one. I can’t even afford a shack.

>>510635876
>It was a shack
>They still fucking had one
That's what many don't get.

My grandpa built his house with its own hands. Yes, he worked hard and he wasn't rich, but he made a home and he could raise 9 children on it.

If I work hard and put in the effort, I can't do what my grandpa did. I can barely maintain myself, I can't even dream of raising 9 children.

What can we do? What should we do?

>>510635712 (OP)
>I can't form a family unless I have my home. I can't work without a home.
you can do both of those without owning your own home actually. dont make the mistake of thinking you have to get everything just right before getting married and having kids. if you do that, you may never have kids.

start now and work together towards getting a house you want. yes, me and my wife did this.

>>510635712 (OP)
You can have cheap housing or housing as an investment that gives higher returns than inflation, but you cannot have both, time to kill some economists and politicians in Minecraft.

>>510635712 (OP)
>I only want a house
You get the house and you enjoy it for a while. "Wow, finally my very own place. I'm my own person now, this is where my life actually starts" you'll think to yourself. Then the thrill wears off. Then you get used to it. You'll notice that not much really changed, all your habits stayed the same, you stayed the same, you're just in a different place, except now you have the added responsibility of maintaining that place. Your job will stay the same and you'll come home tired and defeated and it won't matter where you come home to, you'll still eat the same food you did before and you'll still have to go to work tomorrow.

So you see, first it's
>I only want a house

Then it's
>I only want a loving partner

Then it's
>I only want a child

Then it's
>I only want to retire

You'll get used to the house. Then you'll post a thread about how you can't find a good mother to your children. Then you'll post about how you don't make enough to raise a kid.
Do you see? It's not just the house.

>>510636096
Did your grandpa pull building permits?
Did he make sure his insulation met EU green energy targets?
Did he only use 100% post-consumer recycled nails and hypoallergenic plumbing?

Even in my shithole houses are expensive too

I think i'll live with my parents forever

>>510636096
>I can't even dream of raising 9 children.
kids really aren't that expensive you know. once you've got a couple you just keep reusing the baby clothes, you breast feed as long as possible obvious, so you dont even need to worry about extra baby food for maybe 10-14 months, then its just simple stuff like mashed carrots and fruit for a while longer until they can start having a bit of what you're eating, which is all made at home to keep costs and strange ingredients down.
then you just go buy cheap clothes from thrift stores or big stores where you can find things like 5 pairs of socks for 5 euros or whatever. both my kids went through several canadian winters wearing $20 snowsuits, which we patched up as they got worn out on the ass from sliding around etc.

dont worry too much about the basic running costs of a few kids anon. seriously.

i just renovated my house ama

>>510635712 (OP)
Sorry buddy but you can’t have a house because some old people who hate you need to fuck children

>>510637338
While true, your approach is degenerative outright and never considers self improvement.

>>510635712 (OP)
Mortgaging a house is just a step in the process it’s not the entire process, me paying mortgage in day to day life is not much different than you paying rent; I still gotta work every day, budget my spending, and it’s not like I’m becoming wealthy during this

I do look forward to eventually paying it off in another 20 fuckin years...by then you’ll have moved to some place you enjoy more but I’m ball and chained to this location

>>510635712 (OP)
House ownership in Spain is a remnant of the Francoist era and must be eradicated, and this isn't coming from me, it's one of the stated goal of Spanish leftists. They aren't very outspoken about it for obvious reasons so they're turning up the heat slowly with things like protecting okupas.

>>510635712 (OP)
It's an anthropological difference, some people are like you (and me), others can live on a credit card, change jobs all the time, have children outside of marriage and rely on the state for help. That's their conception of normalcy and there's billions of them. In a democracy, they can vote and change everything to their image. Whereas "our" kind get depressed and can't fit in this society. Natural selection, I guess? Who said anything about improvement, it's all about adaptation. Adapt to the 80 IQ monke world or perish!

>>510639681
>paying mortgage in day to day life is not much different than you paying rent
That would be true if first time homeowners weren't competing with financial institutions with direct access to the money printer.
In order to prop up pension funds, central banks around the world are using their prime lenders to hoover up housing stock.
If you bought your house prior to money printer go brr then yeah, much like pay rent. Hell, my home mortgage is less than rent for the average 1BR in my city.
Beneath all the financial obfuscations, the fundamental truth of the matter is zoomers and to a lesser extent millenials are getting fucked so boomers can afford their life extension treatments.