Say what you will about French people and French culture, but France is the natural hegemon of Western Europe. At least from a geostrategic point of view. It is the only Western European country with a 100M+ carrying capacity and dual access to the Atlantic and Mediterranean. It occupies a central location with power projecting capability into Spain, Italy, Britain, and Germany.

By comparison, Britain has a smaller carrying capacity and no coastline on the Mediterranean. Spain has a smaller carrying capacity and is isolated from the rest of Europe. Germany has a good carrying capacity and central location, but no access to the Atlantic or Mediterranean. Italy has a smaller carrying capacity, is locked in the Mediterranean, and is on the periphery of Europe like Spain.

Only France has all three: large carrying capacity, excellent naval projection, and a central location.

>>510647934 (OP)
Corsica would look cooler if it was Italian thoughever
We can dismember Switzerland though, we get Ticino and Grisoni, they get the Western cantons
Regardless France has lots of potential and that's why it was an European hegemon for so long, sadly now it has some of the worst demographics on the continent

>>510647934 (OP)
I wish I was from France and ethnically French instead of being from this shitty island. Beautiful land, architecture, people, culture and great history. They are what I think of when I think of Europe.

>>510648540
I agree, Corsica is Italian from an ethnic and geographic viewpoint. France annexed it in order to secure their position in the Mediterranean, but that may have been overkill. If another country is capable of denying naval access to France, then I doubt owning Corsica will make any difference.

>>510647934 (OP)
France isn't even French so who cares bud

>>510647934 (OP)
I love France and the French. French is still seen as the prestige language in my part of Germany, not only do we have many gallicisms in my dialect but posh and highly educated people tend to spice up their speech with other French jargon that didn't yet get incorporated into the dialect.

>>510649130
I get that. There are cultural and demographic problems plaguing France. But I am speaking from a purely geostrategic point of view. France is basically the perfect place to set up shop if you want to dominate Europe. No other physical location is as predisposed to becoming the launchpad for a great power.

>>510647934 (OP)
Magna frisia, return it you filthy krauts

>>510649130
How are they not? Excluding the black/brown immigrants of course.

>>510647934 (OP)
>natural borders
>based off of a completely unnatural treaty nobody wanted
Americans lmao

>>510647934 (OP)
Kill yourself you faggot
I spit on every fr*nch faggot I hear

>>510649597
You're a hunnic rape baby, the real Germanic tribes came west and Romanized. You're the niggers they left behind bred with the niggers they were fleeing from.

>>510649875
Have you ever consider that if the Walloons and Flemish were part of France, then France would have a better culture?

>>510649894
Huns literally never reached the low countries you retard, continue speaking your dutch pidgin to honour your true masters, slave

>>510649894
Huns never reached the lowlands rapinder

>>510650087
Have you ever considered that I will never learn that faggy language and that they should fuck off to were they came from and stop spreading their backwardness to our lands?
I don't want them to have a "better" culture, I want them to not exist

>>510650087
The flemish have been dragged down by the Walloons, Africa starts at the Ardenne

>>510650185
You say that, but Dutch sounds even more ridiculous than French.

>>510650088
>>510650131
Do the Netherlands and Belgium not count as the low countries anymore?

>>510647934 (OP)
fuck you nigger

>>510650488
The HRE still doesn't fully resolve the problem of naval access. There's still no direct access to the Atlantic Ocean.

Furthermore, the HRE is too ethnically divided to be a cohesive entity. It is physically split in two by the Alps. This was never going to form into a centralized great power.

>>510650088
Belgians are from Cornwall. You know Jewish Roman history, not Roman history.
>>510650131
Lol. Lmao. R1a haplo nigger posting.

>>510650401
French is literally a Latin-Dutch pidgin you utter mongoloid. And we don't speak like the northeners, you have zero (0) idea what you are talking about, as anyone can see that looks at the map.

>>510650479
Du Blödes krebsarschloch, ist Dornick in Flandern? Ist Köln in Flandern? Es gibt keine Niederländisch/Flämische Städter auf der Karte, du dumme Hurensohn.

>>510650479
Why you posting a map of Attila in Africa though?

>>510650488
German hegemony over Europe always sucks. Might as well ask the Turks to form our fucking governments for us. It includes eastern Europe, whereas westerners eastern Europe's boundary is eastern Germany. Central Europe is the muttening pot of two Slavic invasions. You're all fucking stupid.

>>510647934 (OP)
Imagine all the Dalit Deepshits you could fit on that bad boy

>>510650688
I1 rapinder

>>510650683
>>510650793
niggers

>>510650488
What an unholy monstruosity I am glad we defeated it and chased it off our land

>>510647934 (OP)
>Say what you will about French people and French culture, but France is the natural hegemon of Western Europe.
that france doesnt exist anymore

>>510651358
>Fetishism
Based Nafri footfags

>>510651678
it looks better without italy anyways

>>510647934 (OP)
It's too bad they're currently full of faggots. France was based as fuck for hundreds, if not thousands, of years, but they were kiked at the turn of the 20th century which is why they were used to help destroy the only hope the world had against kikes, which were obviously the Germans. They are race traitors, just like the British, Scandinavians, and Americans.

>>510652100
>Trieste and Trentino under gaymanic paw
Nope

>>510647934 (OP)
The natural hegemon of Europe is Europe and the European people. Not petty nationstates.

Notice these D&C threads constantly creating fake conflict between Europeans.

>>510651730
I understand, and it's a terrible pity. But France may one day rise again like a phoenix from the ashes. Stranger things have happened.

>>510652100
Still no access to the Atlantic, and very little to the Mediterranean. This will never be a naval power. No Navy = No Power Projection = No Global Reach = No Colonial Empire

>>510647934 (OP)
Real world isn't Civlization 5, dumbfuck.

>>510652579
>Petty nationstates
Such talk is protoglobohomospeak

>>510652579
to be fair a lot of europeans on here just seem to hate each other
not sure if i’d count as european being a bong but i see loads of threads made by euros shitting on the british and in turn lots of british shitting on euros. i don’t think that the enemy people should be uniting against are any of these groups.

>>510652820
Colonial empires mostly are net negatives anyway
The reason why the English empire partly succeeded is because they settled lands inhabited by a few hunter gatherers and the settlers implanted European civilization there (USA, Canada, Australia, New Zealand)- in places where the locals were farmers and thus already fairly numerous (Africa, India etc) the colonial ventures only resulted in niggermaxxing via giving them modern medicine- no net gain for civilization

>>510652934
Europeans hating each other is perfectly normal and anyone saying otherwise is a rootless deracinated mutt

>>510652579
The EU might work as a loose economic union akin to the Schmalkaldic League, but it will never be a unified superpower. It can't be. There's too many different countries with different people, cultures, creeds, languages, geographies, and economic interests. It would be India on steroids.

The France I've illustrated has a surface area of ~640,000 km2. If it had the population density equivalent to Germany, it would have 154,240,000 people. That's more than Russia! The economy be $11.2T. It's enough to be a superpower in its own right. No need for any ridiculous pan-national bureaucracy.

>>510653185
yes i agree and it’s pretty funny seeing how a lot of europeans all come from the same groups anyway that slightly diverged. but in times like the modern day when there is the threat of european nations no longer being european in the future in the meantime it’s probably best to stop hating each other until cities are full of europeans again and then resume the shitflinging.

>>510653366
seriously kill yourself
there is nobody that wants this, go post your retarded fantasies on /v/ or something

>>510647934 (OP)
France has its days numbered

>>510653677
Then what do you want? A bunch of petty statelets with no global influence that can be divided & conquered by the Americans and Russians?

>>510653792
EPIC GROSSGERMANIUNS OF COURSE
GENOCIDE ALL NON-GERMANICS

>>510653677
No, I want this.

>>510653792
HRE did just fine dominating all of Europe for centuries.

>>510654116
This can't be done with Germany, you lot are simply too suicidal and guiltridden.

>>510649875
>checks flag
Muzzrat detected.

>>510654116
Krebshund, erhänge dich

>>510654363
all the muzzrats here are fr*nch speaking you subhuman

>>510654054
Let's consider another option. If Big France had the population density of England & Wales (394/km2), then it would have a population of 253,160,000 people. If the GDP/capita PPP was equivalent to Germany, its economy would be $18.3T. That is a superpower. I find Big France much more likely to happen than Big Germany. I would rather there be one Western European superpower than none. And if it's going to be anyone, it's going to be France.

>>510654193
You wish it did Hans

>>510652934
keep in mind that there is a certain amount of manufactured (sometime by govs) hate by jews/pajeets/ziggers ,even mutts, to sow disunion.
There is even intra-european hate for political gains such as germans posting about FCAS here or on /k/ to generate hate against the french....

>>510654246
Wdym, we'd attack the new France? Germanics work better in loose unions of countries with smaller populations a la Netherlands, Switzerland, Denmark, Norway etc. If I could remodel Europe then we'd have a pangermanic of small largely independent states and Germany would split into e.g. Alemannia, Bavaria, Saxony and the Rhineland. We're naturally decentralised and self-willed/eigensinnig. Austrians wouldn't like to be ruled from Berlin, nor you Dutch and neither do the Bavarians nor me personally.

>>510654497
have you ever even been to france or germany?
France has about as many niggers as the US, half of the "white" french people are spanish/italian/polish/romanian there is literally nothing worthwhile in france, it is even worse than belgium. Besides, france has been mentally cucked for 150 years now, they simply have no élan anymore.

>>510654387
Kankerlikker

>>510654497
And if Spain had the same population density as the Netherlands they'd outnumber Russia and if my grandmother had wheels she would have been a truck

>>510654867
>spanish/italian/polish/romanian
All great people you nut

>>510654867
Then they need a transfusion of Germanic blood like what happened after the fall of the Western Roman Empire. But the geostrategic advantages of France remain undeniable. It's simply the best land, physically speaking.

>>510650488
My favorite German autism map

>>510655036
Given the current status of Germanic people, a trasfusion of Germanic blood would make them more cucked. Modern Germanics are some of the most domesticated people in Europe, violence and aggression and tribalism have been bred out of them

>>510654984
With France, it's actually possible though. Especially if you include the low countries. This is basically the territory of ancient Gaul, which is extremely fertile and imbued with rivers and rainfall. By comparison, Spain is drier, more rugged, and less fertile. It can't even sustain 100M people.

>>510655031
Lmao no
Besides, none of these is french anyway

why do you want to replace turks with niggers?

>>510655302
New food recipes. Instead of doner you get grits now

>>510655187
>have been bred out of them
You mean slaughtered in the second world war.

>>510655368
Kind of yes, world wars have had a dysgenic effect in that sense, but generally speaking the process of self-domestication in NW Europe (culling the more violent elements via draconian laws, higher IQ people who generally are much milder in temperament, etc) had been going on since the Middle Ages by that point anyway- in fact it's how modern civilization came to be, it's always a double edged sword as it decreases the amount of aggression which is helpful in non-civilized environments

>>510647934 (OP)
this french border was very interesting to me. i drew it myself a couple of years ago. you even got the southern border with spain mostly correct. Aran, Catalonia should be French though.

>>510656283
I agree. They should let the Spanish have Andorra in exchange.

>>510647934 (OP)
>Rhineland belonging to France
lol
lmao even