One last heist before they croak, as we're all paying 15.3% of our income into social security and Medicare.

Boomers had subsidized universities when they were young, low-income taxes during their prime earning years, and now they want to shift the entire property tax burden onto us as well.

Just shift their nagging about financial responsibility back onto them
>If you had planned appropriately for retirement, you should have investments that can pay for your property tax. Why is it everyone else's fault that you wasted your money?

>>510663398

Tell them to give a firm handshake.

>>510663398
Tell them to pull themselves up by their bootstraps

>>510661781 (OP)
There's no reason anyone who owns their own property should pay taxes on it.

You can't get me to approve property tax.

>>510661781 (OP)
>goy, we have to end property taxes, you don't want the government taking all of your income do you?
Who owns most of the property I wonder...

Are these cheap fucks trying to get out of like $5,000 a year?

>>510663663
Only God owns land. Now pay your tithing

>>510661781 (OP)
They wrote all their houses off as businesses expensives while declaring bankruptcy every other year. These people are absolute swine.

>>510661781 (OP)
th establishment is consolidating all land into back to the moneyied elite.
the economy is all bullshit.
they will eventually corral everyone into apartment complexes and in this case senior living apartments or what have you.
they even have senior centers which are just like old people day care.
that land is ment to be exploited and "developed"
boomers will just sit in their houses while their siding rots away ,
but hey you can get a ramp put in if you want.
you vill own nussing.

>>510663867
They own 3 or more houses they rent out.

>>510663663
I agree that we should change to a Land Value Tax instead.

But property tax of some sort is essential, otherwise cities can't pay for services. China doesn't have property taxes and its a big problem over there.

>>510661781 (OP)
NO ONE SHOULD HAVE TO PAY TAX ON PROPERTY THEY OUTRIGHT OWN
You dumb fucking retards, this is the quintessential "you will own nothing," has nothing to do with boomers vs zoomers

>>510663998
Taxing land would be fair, but taxing property instead is just communism.

>>510664134
That's like not even 1 tenant's rent check per month, let alone considering there's like 4 people in each house.

>>510664260
If we shift to all VAT/Sales/Income tax it is going to fuck over the young people, while Boomers will get out of paying their fair share since they had low-income tax when they were in their 30's-50's.

If you remove property taxes, we will have to make up for it elsewhere, so prepare for significant increases in income tax and sales tax.

>>510661781 (OP)
Property tax is indeed absurd

>>510661781 (OP)
Stupid crab golem, you waste all your time trying to help the government rob your fellow citizen just so they can waste it on war and oligarch bailouts and then you complain that its not enough not realizing the dystopia you live in is caused by that government
All taxation is theft

>>510664454
HOW ABOUT FUCK ALL YOUR TAXES YOU FUCKING KIKE NIGGER JEW FAGGOT ADFJKLGHASNDFLJGSHDNFHG

FUCKING BEING FORCED TO PAY FOR SHIT THAT I DONT WANT OR NEED TO USE

>>510664261
It's better to tax land, but you can't eliminate property tax unless you're willing to implement a land tax, which is unlikely to happen.

>>510661781 (OP)
That's why we invented nursing homes

>>510664711

>>510664762
send this webm to all boomers btw.

>>510661781 (OP)
If the boomers can get rid of property tax on the way out I'll forgive them

>>510664644
Well you see we need a government(s) to have a functioning society, and that government(s) need to have revenue in order to work, so unfortunately taxes are necessary.

If you want to have a significant reduction in government spending that's valid, but that needs to be done before you start eliminating taxes. And eliminating property tax would shift tax burden from old to young.

>>510664829
It would just be ended for the boomers and by the time we get older and have more property they would bring it back.

>>510664235
>But property tax of some sort is essential, otherwise cities can't pay for services.
Just fucking charge the people that use the services, why am I paying for services that I never use?

>>510664762
>n-no you can't do this to me I marched with Dr King!

They'll get out of it and shrug when it's doubled on their kids, telling them as they expire it's their fault.

>>510664849
FUCK THE GOVERNMENT
FUCK THIS SOCIETY

>>510664926
I would be in favor of expanding tolling, but tolling all roads is difficult. New York has done it kind of but only in one area that is very dense.

For education, the problem is you would end up having a bunch of dead beats who wouldn't send their kids to school and then we end up with a bunch of unproductive people when they become adults who will be more likely to commit crime. That's why charging for public schools isn't a great idea.

Then there's a lot of infrastructure that gets built where its hard to say one person benefits, since the benefits are shared by the entire society.

I guess you could just start charging people directly for police and fire. Problem is they also police public areas where everyone benefits. And if someone doesn't pay for the police would the cops then just not respond to their home even if someone was trying to kill them? And fires can spread, so you can't just let one house burn down.

Its difficult to go to an entirely user fee system. Also people whine about user fees all the time, I heard tons of bitching when my city started charging $2 an hour for parking.

>>510664926
No shit, cities can put flock cameras/plate readers on every corner to watch us like 1984 yet they can’t collect revenue along with it?

>>510664926
They're common services that are required for commercial and general purposes.

Yes, you need to pay for roads. Yes, while education is compulsory, the children should not have to pay for it, and the parents (and neighborhood) ought to. Yes, you have to pay for police, firefighters, and the like.

How about I don't pay for your social security and medicare/medicaid faggot? How about you never retire because your incompetent fuck self deserves to starve? Not like I'll get it, so fuck you, you don't get it too. How's that?

Or shrink bureaucracy via technology and lower every tax everywhere.

>>510665499
That would be ideal. But first we have to shrink bureaucracy through technology, which is much easier said than done.

We could also shrink bureaucracy through simplification- there's a lot of bureaucratic work that gets done that doesn't really need to be done.

>>510665398
I would love to just not pay into social security or medicare and just put it all into my own investment accounts. Unfortunately that cannot be done, so 15% of my money goes to boomers and I have little confidence I will ever get it back.

>>510661781 (OP)
Nice. I'm down with no property tax. I don't get shit from it. Don't have kids, and mine doesn't pay for services. Even if it did, cops are ACAB due to the Dullith model, they can get fucked.

>>510665724
>I would love to just not pay into social security or medicare and just put it all into my own investment accounts.
It's absolutely absurd that isn't an option. The difference in return on some basic bitch VOO or whatever vs this disgusting slush fund is sickening.

>>510665724
You're legally entitled to it but the payout will be $0.20

>>510661781 (OP)
A good work ethic

>>510661781 (OP)
"Property Tax" should be replaced with "Land Tax".

>>510661781 (OP)
There's no reason anybody should be paying property tax, if I own the land it's my fucking land, wtf do I need to continuously pay Israel through proxy known as the US government for?

Property taxes are bullshit on all grounds.
Also appraisal is bullshit
>GAAP mandates you have to account for property values at price you paid for them not current assumed price
>government gets to determine your value every fucking year and tax you off off what they think it's worth
If your having property taxes they should be fucking GAAP compliant, not what ever made up rules the government only allows for themselves.

>>510664235
Quick...go to China and help them solve their problem, oh wise one.

>>510666019
You should drop out of accounting if you don't immediately understand why GAAP is like that.

>>510661781 (OP)
Just make it so the first/primary home is immune to property tax and any housing/property after the first the tax is doubled.
>landlords will seethe at this

>>510665306
tollways are universally well maintained compared to public and electronic tolling would be pretty easy to do. much more efficient than window stickers your state asks for.
deadbeat parents is fearmongering, even poor families prioritize education when they control where the money goes. private schools outperform public with tuitions lower per student than the equivalent money going to public schools. only reason they aren't more popular is people are forced to pay for public schools and don't want to layer more on top. schools are the #1 expense in property tax by far, and also the thing that 65+ boomers get exemptions for so they're not even paying for them as it stands.
if society really benefits from infrastructure, society will pay for it. if they don't pay, maybe it wasn't all that beneficial in the first place.
for the police/fire coverage issue, insurance is already a thing and they are not stupid, they would refuse coverage or charge huge premiums if you don't pay in to police/fire
and $2 for parking is orders of magnitude less than what you are getting ripped off from taxes so I fail to see the problem. replace the insane taxes with transactions and people are empowered to demand and pay for quality service instead of just accepting the shaft from whatever the crooks at the school board and tax assessors decide to fuck you with.

Property taxes are an absolute scam. I've lived in the burbs my whole life and it always takes 7-10 years for potholes to be fixed.

>>510661781 (OP)
property taxe should be 100% for anyone owning more than 2 home, 200% for foreigner, and 5000% for the faggot kike who will answer to this post about shell company ownership

>>510664762
OOOOO HE ROCKED EM!!!

>>510661781 (OP)
Your property tax is absolutely bonkers tho.
Seems like a Jewish plot to get people to move out of their homes when BlackRock wants to buy up the whole area

>>510663398
>>510663466
>>510663528
Oof

>>510666486
Fuck off, Joe Rogan.

>>510661781 (OP)
Fucking boomers.

>>510665912
Correct, land tax is would be much better but the boomers who own single family homes in valuable areas would be very angry about it.
>>510665996
There is no federal property tax.
>>510666329
This would get passed onto renters. So essentially renters would be shouldering the tax burden for everyone.

>>510666481
A 100% property tax would basically make renting not an option, which doesn't make sense. This means young people who haven't built up wealth just won't have anywhere to go and will have to stay with their parents. It would also depress construction.

The end result would be much higher housing costs.

>>510666641
>So essentially renters would be shouldering the tax burden for everyone
it's all so tiresome

>>510663663
>There's no reason anyone who owns their own property should pay taxes on it.

Right.

But the subversives gotta push divide and conquer boomer hate.

Either way it's claimed that boomers have all of the power as, yet here they are getting the same shit sandwich that the rest of us get.

>>510666019
>says the first year accounting student

>>510663663
Everything should be subscription based: water, trash, sewer, gas, road use, police, fire, even visiting the park or going into any shop should have a card reader for a magnetic pass you pay an annual subscription for, in order to use the town. There should be parking building gates on every Main Street and the tire shredder things on the road so people have to pay to get in or else. And even though property taxes paid for their education, every kids parents can now pay a subscription for their kids to be bussed off to the shittiest schools imaginable.
Buying a property itself should be subscription based. How about that? Oh wait.

>be me
>pay off my mortgage
>ready to feel a huge weight lifted
>still pay property tax
>still pay home insurance
>monthly "mortgage" bill cut in half, at best
><big fuckin' deal>

Nobody in this country owns their home..

>>510666917
You own the equity

>>510665864
You're not entitled to. You can't force yourself into the pre-1950's established churches that exempt you, you have little to no legal pathway out of social security.

>>510665842
This 1000%.

>>510661781 (OP)
I'm a late baby boomer and you millennials are fucking sad and pathetic. When I was your age, I had already bought my first home. I bought my first car at 16 and drove a couple of girlfriends to the beach and other hangouts. But anyways, you sad losers need to take one good look in the mirror and see that your life sucks because you are a pathetic degenerate who watches too much cartoon porn. Your parents are probably ashamed of you and can't wait till the fucking day you move out. Somebody oughta teach you some manners preferably with their fists

>>510661781 (OP)
I hope they do it. The idea of continuously paying to own the stuff you purchased has got to be the most jewish thing ever conceived.

>>510666917
>>still pay home insurance
if you own your home, this should no longer be required.

>>510663867
>Are these cheap fucks trying to get out of like $5,000 a year?

You can start sending me $5,000 every year. It's just $5,000 a year. I'll give you nothing of value in return.

>>510667032
The HAO can sell your house and pocket the profits by fining you for overgrown grass

>>510667032
Definition
Equity is the remaining value of an asset or investment after considering or paying any debt owed; the term is also used to refer to capital used for funding or a brand's value.

No, my fren. You rent the equity. If you do not pay your property taxes, they will take your "equity" from you. It is either extortion or rent, call it what you will, but it is not ownership.

>>510666755
>A 100% property tax would basically make renting not an option
Yes.

>>510661781 (OP)
Wants his local grade school and high school to become ghetto tier. Fucking pedo boomers. When will they fucking die ffs?!

>>510667067
You’re paying for town services, the reason you moved there. You knew the consequences of buying the house would be property taxes yet you bought it anyway. Trying to weasel your way out of paying for schools is the most Jewish psy op ever conceived

>>510667063
>I'm a late baby boomer and you millennials are fucking sad and pathetic. When I was your age, I had already bought my first home. I bought my first car at 16 and drove a couple of girlfriends to the beach and other hangouts. But anyways, you sad losers need to take one good look in the mirror and see that your life sucks because you are a pathetic degenerate who watches too much cartoon porn. Your parents are probably ashamed of you and can't wait till the fucking day you move out. Somebody oughta teach you some manners preferably with their fists

Nice subversive post to try and further division between 'boomers' and non boomers.

>>510661781 (OP)
Stop working altogether. NEET. Do with as minimum as possible. Do nothing of benefit for society. Isolate yourself. Do nothing. Go mad.

>>510666915
Interesting. Doable. The future.

>>510667249
You’re paying for the right to own the equity of a house. You can pay $4500 a year and get fire and police and schools and pothole repairs and in ten years your house could be worth $450000 more than you paid for it. You’re paying $375 per month for the right to make your net worth increase $3750

>>510665398
Fucking kill yourself you moron.
Pay for your own god damn kids.
Fuck public education.
Fucking Reddit cancer go the fuck back.
Property tax like income tax is a fucking scam to keep your poor and enslaved.

>>510667433
GO POUND SAND YOU FUCKING LEFTIST

>>510661781 (OP)
>boomers are trying to get out of property taxes

are you expecting me to get mad about people not paying taxes? not happening retard

>>510663829
I lost a house b/c I didn't pay property tax lol

>>510661781 (OP)
Anyone less than 50 should bear this burden. Respect your elders.

>>510661781 (OP)
If property taxes were lower, your rent would be lower.
Something to think about.
Loser.

>>510661781 (OP)
The boomers in my area voted down increasing property by like $.05 an acre for our local comminuty college because "muh communism in schools". Retards. This isn't Harvard. It's a 2 year school that most kids end up in a state engineering school to finish their bachelor's.
Apparently everyone is just supposed to be a rich land owner meanwhile they are selling all their land to developers for low-income housing (niggers) so they can buy vacation homes to live at if it's too hot or too cold or too dark for them.
The signs these homosexuals had in their yards to justify their vote were so fucking stupid. "No taxes for communism in our schools". I went to that school and the faculty are based. Fuck boomers.

>>510668051
Respect Deez Nuts

>>510668138
You must be 18 to post here

>>510664260
As someone who will never afford a home, let me say, boo fucking hoo.

>>510667892
This thread feels like an attempt to stir up needless anti-boomer sentiment. Am I supposed to sympathize with a guy demanding higher taxes over my dad? What a retard this OP is.

>>510661781 (OP)
>Gibs muh dat.
I'm tax collector in my town and every single motherfucker bitches, NOBODY has ever paid extra or come in and volunteered to pay extra and if you ask any of them what they feel is "fair" it invariably boils down to "some other asshole should pay so I can have shit I want without paying for it."

>>510661781 (OP)
>vote to recuse themselves from property taxes
>sitting on municipal councils voting to raise the property taxes they recused themselves from
Day of the Pillow, now

>>510668890
Weak bait

>>510661781 (OP)
No one should pay property taxes

>>510663663
This is the only reasonable answer, there should be no such thing as property tax and if society wasn't fake and gay there would be no such thing

>>510661781 (OP)
Just more evidence /pol/ is full of trannies attempting to cement their stay here. If you're pro property taxes you're a traitor and hopefully will some day be executed after a fair trial.

>>510664762

>>510664849
You're a traitor and hopefully after a speedy and fiar trial you're publicly executed

>>510664849

>>510667687
>i don't understand how mortgages work or what INTREST is

>>510669375
Which one of those statements do you believe isn't true?

>>510669737
Were getting closer and closer to very speedy trials and public executions fren. Thats why they are importing brown hordes to be their army for zog to genocide whites

>>510669838
Tax is theft and if the "nation" and its (((leaders))) import niggers and muslims they and anyone who advocates for said "nation" deserves and hopefully soon will hang by the neck till death for treason

>>510661781 (OP)
Paying taxes is based and red pilled. Fuck boomers. Zoomer tax payers unite!

>>510661781 (OP)
Your property is on US land, therefore you pay tax.

>>510663398
they're rich as fuck anyway, they just hate paying taxes rightfully so. Get a boomer on your team

>>510670018
Woody Guthrie and the Constitution are very clear on who owns the land

>>510669976
>Tax is theft
Literally every resident in town is free to come vote for or against every penny of spending. Guess what percentage of people in my town come to town meeting? Guess how many ever vote against any spending?

>>510670281
>every penny of spending.
you get to vote on passing a budget or not, in its entirety only.
>vote against
most times the school budget fails the first go-round but it never goes away

>>510670095
Boomers cannot be on your team because they will backstab you for zero reason then keel over and die of old age at the right time to avoid retribution, leaving you exposed to your enemies.

>>510663663
>>510669467
It's an unreasonable answer because boomers will immediately try to make a loophole so ONLY old retards get tax breaks, fucking everyone else over. Stop being reasonable in the face of Boomerism.

>>510661781 (OP)
the tax doesnt go to white people does it. So its fair enough.

>>510664454
>If we shift to all VAT/Sales/Income tax it is going to fuck over the young people,
Boomers make up the majority of consumers, retard. Cutting taxes on salaries is what helps the young, not boomers.

Everyone look at this shit. Look at how much liberals lie.

>>510663663
I agree with this but look how that is framed.
>65 year old who owns their home
which means the few millenials and zoomers who own a house will still have to pay their property tax, not the boomers. One last fucking before they die.

>>510661781 (OP)
We should do it in return for phasing out the pyramid scheme that is social security. You can even do lessen them both proportionally. Boom, leverage.This one's on me, you're welcome.

>>510661781 (OP)
Property taxes are the ultimate regressive tax. They price poor people out of home ownership and force them to depend on renting.

>>510661781 (OP)
No taxation without representation. Simple As.

>>510670630
>you get to vote on passing a budget or not, in its entirety only.
No, we vote on every line item and anybody is free to move to appropriate the sum recommended by the budget committee or any other number they like.
>the school budget
Best we can do there is to try to vote it down at the school district's budget meeting and if the budget keeps getting voted down they cannot charge more than they did the previous year.
Care to guess how many of us (out of a school district containing around 12,000 people) showed up at the school board budget meeting to vote it down? Care to guess how many people who work for the school (or their spouses) turn up to vote for it?
That said, unfortunately the school funding is mandated in the state constitutions and towns can vote down the approved budget but if we try to not pay the county treasurer can just start putting liens on town property and forcing us to make good.
Public schools need to be dismantled and build from the ground up without including any of the cretins currently involved..... but until there's a will to do that, most municipalities are stuck.

>>510670892
What do you do for work and how much savings do you have? At what price point do you feel you're ready to buy into home ownership if it weren't for property tax? What's the mil rate in the town you're looking to buy?

>>510664235
the same boomers complaining about property tax would also oppose that tax. their land is more valuable than their dwelling. houses in major metro areas aren't better, the land is just worth more. and I don't trust some 4 year degree retard working for the local government to read a GIS map of soil quality to assess agricultural value.

>>510661781 (OP)
all taxation is robbery.

>>510661781 (OP)
There's no reason why anyone over age 65 should own a home
it's absurd

>>510671137
All completely irrelevant. The point is property tax is basically being forced to pay rent for something you own. Either you can afford it or you can't.

>>510664235
>otherwise cities can't pay for services
WHO
FUCKING
CARES

>>510670281
Yeah probably because we all work 12 hour days now, there's no childcare and you notify the public of the meetings by putting them in the fucking newspaper only one Wallgreens has which nobody shops at if they can speak/read English.

>>510664762
Based nigger
Kill that boomer.

>>510661781 (OP)

Am I crazy for thinking property taxes are pretty much the only justifiable tax? It seems to me landowners would be most likely to benefit from government and also have the most stake in government, second only to military and veterans.

you are all so retarded jfc lol
imagine defending property taxes to own the boomers
actual cattle, natural-born slaves lmao

>>510661781 (OP)
I actually agree with this though. Homestead should be tax exempt at a minimum, enough with this feudalism.

>>510671861
yes, you are crazy
you fucking retard
lmao

>>510661781 (OP)
>property tax burden on us as well
I agree, but honestly, there is so much tax burden on the average young man has to take these days that am baffled how people are not talking enough about it or are even willing to take it in some cases. You are;
>paying for other men's kids
>paying for the single moms
>paying for services that are not available to you
>paying for shit you don't care about or you are straightup against
>paying so the government can fuck you up even harder
>paying for migratory and refugee groups
if this wasn't the case, the first ones to complain would be boomers themselves or people that clearly have no issue in taking your money

>>510661781 (OP)
Those faggots should be charged extra property taxes for every consecutive home they own past a single family residence.

>>510671861
Anything government collects at the end of a barrel isn't justified

>>510671876
how would property ever change hands if the person owning it doesn't have to use it to produce something of adequate value or at least do something to pay for their land laying fallow? Imagine a world where the rich and corporations own most of the land and don't produce anything from it because they no longer have to. A small property tax makes sense, it prevents hoarding.

>>510661781 (OP)

>>510671861
>landowners would be most likely to benefit from government
thats because it is indeed the case, those fuckers despite the riches they own, they will soak up most of the money off public services

>>510672413
which services?

>>510663398
Not gonna play their game. Cmon, man.

Taxes are theft.

Every single time

>>510672822
>Local governments
School districts set property taxes these days. Cities have moved on to personal property taxes. Now stop and think for a second, WHERE have you heard the term "Personal Property" before?

>>510661781 (OP)
Property taxes are fucking retarded and should have never existed.

>>510671576
>Either you can afford it or you can't.
So unemployed and no savings. I'm sure as soon as property tax is abolished you'll be a home owner.
>>510671755
>we all work 12 hour days now
No you don't.
>there's no childcare
Several people brought their children.
>you notify the public of the meetings by putting them in the fucking newspaper
And on the website, and we were pretty much telling everybody who came to the town office to show up.
Since you didn't ask, 9 of us showed up to vote against everything and 35 showed up to vote for everything. Again, the population of the school district is around 12,000 people.

>>510663663
Very simple solution:
>No property tax or land tax on your main residence
>Property tax + land tax is still required for any other properties
Simple
>b-but anon what about properties owned by companies?
Residential property must only be owned by a person, not a company. A temporary exception may be allowed if the property was used as collateral and has been obtained in that way, but the property must be sold within a month.
>but what if the only offer they get for that property is ridiculously low, like a dollar?
Then they'll get a dollar for the property. Don't like it? Don't accept a residential property as a form of collateral then.
There, I just solved the housing crisis.

>>510661781 (OP)
You zoomies just don't understand how hard they had to work to get those houses

>>510669766
You said you paid it off.

>>510673572
You missed dumping boatloads of poo into the middle of the Atlantic, but pretty sound otherwise.

>>510661781 (OP)
boomers own all the houses but they shouldn’t have to pay taxes on them. lol lmao even

>>510673298
Are you pic related or just trying to make a strawman?

>>510669976
Consider it a subscription service for roads and police and schools and fire trucks and the right to access the nearby town to buy groceries and gas

>>510670892
The property taxes paid is included in the rent. There is not a town in America where monthly real estate taxes exceed the market rent except maybe a few places in Illinois, Texas, West Virginia and New Jersey

>>510671018
So effectively cut the school budget by the inflation rate

>>510671576
You’re paying for cops and schools and fire services, public works like water and sewer

>>510671647
People who live in the city limits

>>510674359
Tell me more things I've never heard before.

>>510661781 (OP)
None of us should be paying property taxes on our Homes.

Congress should enact a US-wide law, making $0 RE taxes on primary residences, US-wide.

>then people who own 3-5-10 properties would get their taxes to go up

>>510673572
>Property tax + land tax is still required for any other properties
The problem with this is that it'd be another tax on the poor, as the vast majority live in rental units not occupied by the (((owner))). Add to that the fact that such people receive gibs, and people who pay taxes end up paying more to cover the increase in gibs.
The actual solution is to remove all foreign shitskins so the housing prices come back down to where they should be, stop electing women and womanish men who can't balance a fucking budget, and, of course, TKD.

>>510663663
>There's no reason anyone who owns their own property should pay taxes on it.
This,
also thiss.
>>510673572
>Very simple solution:
>No property tax or land tax on your main residence
>Property tax + land tax is still required for any other properties

>>510661781 (OP)
I'm a childless middle-aged man who inherited a basic house. Never married.

Began availing myself of the local food banks offerings a couple of months ago because the pay from my p/t job at Walmart wasn't leaving me with enough in the checking account to pay for smokes and liquor.

Trying to do the right thing, I had a spare tire swapped off the rim and the tire shop told me that all my sidewalls are separating. Flash-forward $1,050 later and I've got new tires all around, but only $1.50 in the checking account.

My property taxes are ~$3,000 per year. On top of that I pay over $6K per year in tobacco and booze tax on a provincial level. Federally I pay fuck all because I don't earn enough to qualify.

Eat shit, fuck you, get off my lawn!

>>510661781 (OP)
something something you made the loan pay it back etc

>>510674519
i agree defund the police

>>510674645
Renters would not pay property tax or land tax as they do not own the property.

I also agree with your other points. Many western countries allow foreigners to purchase land/housing which is just fucking insane.

>>510661781 (OP)
Stirring up more hate among on our own people.
You rascally rascal, how's the weather in tel aviv?

>>510661781 (OP)
Boomers have never paid accurately assessed property taxes in their worthless lives, even as their home values ballooned 10x or even 50x in some cases

If you forced everyone to pay accurate property taxes next year most boomers would be forced to sell their homes, which would crash the property market

>>510663663
But who will build the roads?

>>510664762
Shouldn't have said the nwerd

>>510663663
unironically i do think it would be a great Idea to exempt everyone from property taxer a single primary residence and then massively jacking up the tax for those with multiple. The only issue is that the people who politicians actually listen to don't want to pay more taxes on their other properties.

>>510661781 (OP)
if you can guarantee property taxes goes to firefighters, park rangers and shit like that then it's worth it
but instead it goes to housing illegals

>>510674284
>So effectively cut the school budget by the inflation rate
Another nearby town saw a 20% increase in their school budget this year.
Point being most of this shit taxpayers/voters have a direct say in and 99.9% of them sit on their arse instead of coming out to vote down spending.

>>510661781 (OP)
I’m not a boomer and i don’t wanna pay property tax anymore. It’s a racket.

>>510661781 (OP)
Everyday boomers continue to twist the knife

A boomer can have their property taxes deferred, and have a lien placed against their property. The rules differ from state to state.

>>510661781 (OP)
The only corporate owned property or investment properties should be subject to a property tax. No one should be paying the government rent for the home they own.

>>510675937
Post a link to your muncipal budget and show how much money your town gives to illegals.

>>510676158
Hey kike, even a single penny going to the jews and their golem is unforgivable

I guess we can stop their pensions too since they don't need the money.

>>510664762
This is why I'm getting jacked and staying jacked
50 years from now put me in a state-funded retirement home and let my dementia brain guide my oxen body to glory

>>510668856
that's exactly what it is. i bitch about them like everyone else because there's plenty of reason to but I'm not about to side with the government against them like a jew or other retard people

>>510663663
Isn't rent just a privately paid property tax?

>>510661781 (OP)
> Boomers are trying to get out of property taxes

One day…..it’ll be you, shitwit!

>>510663867
My brother was falling behind on his payments of... like 275 every three months

like goddamn some people are so fucking stupid and yes I'm talking about MY OWN BROTHER

HOW
HOW
HOW

>>510664647
>>510664235
>>510664261
>>510665912
>>510666641
>tax an acre of land in Manhattan the same as an acre of land in Alaska
Georgists are fucking retarded

>>510676346
How much money does your town give to jews every year?

What blows my mind about property taxes is boomers bought their homes 10 years ago at less than 2% interest and have them for sale at 5x the price, but the assessed price is original so not only did they get a 500% return on a 2% loan they pass on the 5x assessment when it's sold.

Some property taxes I've looked at are a years salary if I bought the place, and none of the kids are even white

>>510667245
>living in an HOA
Lmao

>>510676968
living in a HOA is a necessary evil in a condo building. If its a single family house you screwed up

gotta pay those firefighters their six figs

>>510661781 (OP)
>Boomers had subsidized universities when they were young, low-income taxes during their prime earning years, and now
you could have had the same but you voted for republicans kek

>>510676917
Yeah everyone in our county had their property tax jump 70%. My mother is listed as co owner of my house and we hot a property tax freeze this year for her being over 70. Its unreal how they quadrupled since covid

>>510677288
Are you telling me that the 80 year old boomer president doesn't have the best interests of millenials at heart? I dont believe it. Boomers are usually so selfless, kind, and compassionate.

>>510663867
Boomers are the only thing that make me give pause to the idea that Jews are the single greatest threat to Western civilization

>>510676620
this is explicitly the opposite of georgism. the entire purpose of land value tax is to place premium highly desired urban land at a higher tax value bracket than worthless permafrost tundra.

>>510677288
Republicans literally lowered my income taxes, the reason taxes are so gay and high is because of clinton and obama you retarded faggot. Boomers also grew up/went to college/go jobs during the republican domination of government from 1952-1992 when republicans held the white house for all but 12 of 40 years. Why do you fuckers lie so much? Are you not capable of facing the reality you're just fucking wrong and all your problems are unironically your own fault?

>>510664762
>let my dementia brain guide my oxen body to glory
GORE NIGGERS IN THEIR ASSHOLES

>>510677889
>The president sets the mil rate in every single town in the country!
Hard to believe a smart guy like you isn't a home owner.

>>510661781 (OP)
Boomers have on average another 25 years ahead. 25 years were every other generation has an incentive to make boomer life as miserable as possible. Pensions, forget those, social security, lol dream on - keeping your 401k, assets and other inflated shit, get lost.

Politics left and right is going to align - being a boomer for the next two decades is going to be a bad time. GenX is going to get fucked too. The winners, zoomers and Alpha, Millennials, neutral - our win, watching boomers and their "representatives" in politics and economy as culture getting culled, literally likely

>>510680048
Who said anything about a mil rate? What are you even referencing anon?

>>510661781 (OP)
they already have in many places, California being the worst offender letting boomers pay property tax of what they initially bought their home for and not it's current worth. Completely unjust to new home buyers.

>>510663663
True, but boomers only want this for themselves. It's stupid. They are so wealthy and greedy.

>>510663867
What if they paid no tax for their cheapest property but tax for any additional one?

You: Pay property tax of $3000 to pay for services for family of 5. Others: Pay property tax of $3000 to pay for services for family of 10 and borders sleeping in the garage with 16 cars parked out front.

>>510661781 (OP)

>>510676917
My property tax in 2014 on a home valued at 175k, in the country with essentially no services was like 2800$ a year. When I sold the place in 2020, they were already talking about hiking up the property tax to around 10k a year. Biggest scam ever

>>510661781 (OP)
The braindead conservative boomers by me think that because they paid taxdes while their kids were in school, they shouldn't have to fund education with taxes any more. Fuckm, worst generation, only just beating out their parents.

>>510668138
If we abolished property tax, the rent might go down slightly but my income and sales taxes would skyrocket which would be much worse

>>510676620
You apparently don't understand what land value tax is.

Its not a per acre tax, its a value tax. Its in the name

>>510664235
People don't own land in China, they lease it for 70 years from the government.

Interesting how libertarians only start seething about taxes that affect boomers, like property taxes.

They never say anything about income/payroll taxes that are paid by young people.

>>510683523
That's misleading since it automatically renews. It just gives the government the right to decide who inherits the land.

The reality is Chinese municipalities have no property tax revenue and have to make their money from land sales, which is suboptimal.

>>510667032
>equity
>imaginary bullshit
kys jew

>>510661781 (OP)
Just kill everyone over 60

>>510665398
>commercial
people did not have walmart when they landed here
people do not need "commerce"
"commerce" needs people
why don't they pay for roads, schooling, gasoline, internet?
these are all things they NEED to be profitable, to have any laborers, to have any consumers
i, on the other hand, can make do with a patch of farmland in a mennonite community, carting my goods around on my back the 3 or so miles up and down the hills around me
taxes are necessary only to hide the cost of "commerce" which has cheapened life in our nations
>>>>>merchants

>>510683260
They ignore the fact that their parents generation also paid taxes while the boomers had kids in school.

Their parents generation didn't just force the entire tax burden onto the boomers. In fact its the opposite, since income tax was lower then.

>>510661781 (OP)
I'm still paying over 6K a year in school taxes. My kid graduated High School in 2014.

Libertarians can't even engage in a conversation about how the tax burden should be handled because they just seethe at the idea of taxes.

This whole thing isn't even about how much taxes we should pay, that's a different discussion. Its about whether or not boomers should be able to get out of paying taxes, which increases the taxes for the rest of society.
>>510684278
Are you an anarcho-primitive or something?

>>510684547
The kids in school today will pay for your social security and Medicare.

If boomers get to get out of school taxes, than I get to stop paying 15% of my income to payroll taxes and put it into my own private investment accounts.

I work a min wage fast food job and I'm paying like 50% of my income in taxes now. Love when a fat boomer comes in with his crew of illegal alien State subsidized landscape workers.

>>510684547
>>510684699
Also, people who didn't have kids when your kids were in school helped pay your kids through school.

And now that your kids are out of school you want to stop? That's not fair at all.

NOBODY SHOULD PAY ANY TAXES EVER UNTIL LEGITIMATE GOVERNMENT IS RESTORED

>>510684757
GET ON FOODSTAMPS AND WELFARE AND MEDICAID ASAP DUDE

>>510661781 (OP)
abolish property tax and government indoctrination day prison

It’s not uncommon for a significant reduction in property tax after age 65. It won’t pay the full taxes on the us median residential home but will pay most of the tax. The Boomers complaining are those who ‘downsized’ to a wealthy bubble community. My response to that senior subset, pay up.

Let's abolish property tax for anyone born after 1970 and make anyone born before pay double

>>510685014
What funding mechanism do you propose as an alternative revenue source?

>>510685139
Make the boomers pay triple if we need.

>>510664260
This is the society you old faggots wanted. You made your bed now lie in it.

>>510675686
Nobody is fixing the roads we drive on now, much less building them, and that's with all the money we pay in gasoline tax. Why should anyone pay anything if some fucking kike is just going to steal it anyways and probably use it to bring niggers into the country too.

>>510684595
you can call it that but it really doesn't matter. I make my choices like everyone else, with billions of untold consequences that escape my imagination. I don't see how having some people try to force their idea of "what worked for me" just like boomers saying "go to college" helps anybody be smarter or more responsible in making decisions for themselves. i choose to make decisions that require less decisions later, while everyone else loves to burden themselves by going into debt or buying things to maintain or acquiring a skill that must be used whether you like it or not to keep it sharp

>>510685181
What instrument would you use to extract this wealth?

>>510663829
>you can't get me to approve property taxes
Well in that case you don't have to pa...go fuck yourself nigger.

>>510661781 (OP)
they truly are pathetic and they will be rejected from paradise for it

>>510661781 (OP)
they just got out of taxes on social security, why not

>>510678003
post nose

>>510665344
>No shit, cities can put flock cameras/plate readers on every corner to watch us like 1984 yet they can’t collect revenue along with it?
CHECKED

>>510685595
I sure hope so. They have cared about no other generation but theirs. Every scheme was always to benefit boomers at the expense of past and future generations. They have known nothing but greed, and they have been rewarded handsomely for it in this life.
If there is any justice, heaven will either not have boomers or there will be a small part of heaven that sucks and that's where the boomers have to stay

>>510661781 (OP)
There is absolutely no rational reason why I should have to pay for the healthcare of an old fuck that has had their entire life to save up money to pay for their own fucking problems. It's absurd.

>>510663663
Yeah, there is. When the South lost the Civil War the Federal Government no longer had any armed resistance to implement property taxes. What did you think the Civil War was actually about, Fool?

>>510685139
>What funding mechanism do you propose as an alternative revenue source?
The top 50% of income earners already pay 97% of the federal taxes. Implement the Fair Tax and everything else will sort itself out.

This is literally a thing where I'm from
https://www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/taxes/property-taxes/annual-property-tax/property-tax-deferment-program

Boomers can get charged simple interest (BELOW PRIME RATE) on deferring their taxes, which they can invest the money on compound gains. No payment until they sell or die. If you invest well and wait long enough the returns pay off the taxes and give you free money.
We literally give free fucking money to old land owners because fuck you.

>>510685975
It's absurd that we will use $200,000 on Healthcare for old people but we don't offer free college for people with an iq above 100.
It's absurd that smaller surgeries for younger people who will benefit for many years aren't paid for, but no expense is spared to keep old people alive

>>510686088
land value tax is the only way

>>510686088
>The top 50% of income earners already pay 97% of the federal taxes.

>>510686119
>land value tax is the only way
Proof or GTFO. You know the rules.

>>510686127
>>510686224
>fuck you pay your fair share

>>510663528
Tell them to walk into a factory and ask to talk to the manager about a job.
Tell him you'll start today. Lol

>>510686276
>fair share
Define that first and I'll consider it.

>>510686593
budget/population
or
public dollars consumed

>>510661781 (OP)

No property tax in China.
truth

>Boomers are trying to get out of property taxes

therefore we should welcome property taxes

>>510686093

well hopefully by the time you're eligible they'll have fazed it out
then you can be happy

>>510686093

>>510686995
There's a less good version of it for parents which I'm not eligible for because my house is worth too much. (Inherited house, I make jack fucking shit for money)

>>510684426
On average, every boomer is a spiteful 4th grader emotionally, pretty tough to reason with unless you bully them.

>>510686704
Is engrish your second language?
Define what "fair share" is you silly faggot or go back to sucking cock.

>>510687322
>bully them.
CHECKED

>>510661781 (OP)
Sure your first home that you live in if you own it should not have property tax but if youre a boomer renting out property to live hedonism till death and then give all your money to Africa anyway you should have every property after the first taxed. Eat shit, if im not allowed to utilize my natural gifts to take land, then you arent allowed to use your little old faggots club to retain it. Vote in less browns next time.

>>510687466
nice reading comprehension you faggot. how do you manage to tie your shoes without drowning?

>>510687767
>nice reading comprehension you faggot. how do you manage to tie your shoes without drowning?
Not an argument. Thanks for trying. Come again.

>>510687758
You people realize that when you impose extra property taxes on rental properties that is paid for by renters?

I don't get why people hate renters so much. Renting is an option that necessary and makes sense for many, we shouldn't be punishing people or investment firms for renting out and building homes.

>>510666641
>This would get passed onto renters.
Renting sould be illegal.

Taxes are great and all, but do you ever think about what you could do with the money you saved if you didn't have to pay taxes?

>>510688305
hookers and blow

>>510661781 (OP)
Only people profiting from their land should pay taxes.

>People think paying property taxes is a flex.

>>510667169
sure and you can also hire your own judge when i burn your house down

>>510688217
>move to a city for work not knowing how long I'll be there
>have to go through the process of buying a house
>leave the city 2 years later
>have to go through the process of selling my house and buying a new one where I move to
>22-year-old wants to move out of their parents house
>has to stay their until they have enough money to afford a down payment because they made renting illegal
Absolutely retarded system you're proposing.
>>510688356
No, the entire tax burden should not be shifted to renters.

>>510661781 (OP)
no one who owns a home should pay property taxes : D
that's the joke

>>510688864
What's your alternative? Just hike sales tax and income tax through the roof?

>>510661781 (OP)
we also fucked your women and ate your tendies

>>510664762
This video is exactly why I'm killing myself before I get to this point. I bet gampers here could have creamed this nigger's corn in his younger days

>>510688976

>>510688801
>move to a city for work not knowing how long I'll be there
>22-year-old wants to move out of their parents house
Lodging would still be legal. Stay at an Inn.

>>510661781 (OP)
Property tags should be illegal same as income

>>510689196
You're retarded and anti-freedom

If I want to rent an apartment for a year I should be legally allowed to

>>510689275
Just fund everything through VAT?

>>510661781 (OP)
Boomers? Shirking societal responsibility for personal gain?

I believe they drink white lead paint with breakfast instead of milk. Boomers will fuck the rest of us over from beyond the grave.

>>510689196
A motel 6 is $106/night now, that's 3 grand a month. The idea of cheap longtern hotels is over.

>>510689317
deport all shitskins and cut off the faucet to shit outside of america and then we'll talk

>>510661781 (OP)
There's no reason anybody who owns their home to be paying for property tax period. I'm sick and tired of paying thousands every month in taxes so they can go bomb kids in the Middle East

>>510689578
I'd prefer we guillotine billionaires for their crimes against humanity

>>510688057
If you ever live in an apartment then transition into your own home you'll understand why people hate renters

>>510665842
It's not allowed because if SS was non-compulsory, you'd see a flight in capital that would essentially kill the entire program dead overnight. I support elimination generally, but it has to be done over a well defined and communicated drawdown period, otherwise the ass end will drop out of it and retard boomers will die in shanty towns in the streets (boo hoo but I don't want them messing with my lawn and shit).

It needs to go though. It is a god awful program.

>>510664926
I'd rather there be property taxes instead of there being parking meters and shit everywhere, if I were forced to pick

>remove all property taxes
>anyone with a ton of money can just now buy up every single property and sit on them forever because there's no expenses to own it
ebin

>>510663867
My friend got bought a house by his parents and he complains about the property tax meanwhile I'm paying out the ass on rent lmao

>>510689759
2026 is supposed to be 50% dead boomers. we can move on it now.

>>510675686
We would have a lot more money for that if we weren't giving billions of free shit to kikes and darkies everywhere.

>>510661781 (OP)
Boomer here. I own my OOOOWWN home. It’s mine! Don’t even fucking talk to me about taxes for shit like affordable housing. Sick of paying for shitbags. And also, like if they put affordable housing in Pacific Palisades like fucko Newsom wants, who wins THAT lottery? like every POS in LA will be gunning for that.

>>510690107
shut the fuck up california

>>510689759

> but it has to be done over a well defined and communicated drawdown period, otherwise the ass end will drop out of it

It's a pyramid scheme, the only way out is total collapse. I don't make the rules, I just obverse them and don't live in lala land. SS funds were raided long ago, they don't exist. Boomers money is gone, should have known not to trust the government, so sorry, should have heeded all the founder's warnings.

But now the only way to sustain it is by screwing their kids? Nah, burn it down.

>>510671647
You'll probaby care when your house gets set on fire our you need your trash bin hasn't been emptied in over a month.

>>510661781 (OP)
Cool

>>510683944
>just
Fuck you communist

>>510690107
When shaniqua the nursing home assistant is screeching like a monkey while you're breathing tube is out, do you think it will really matter how many properties you own?

>>510690107

> Sick of paying for shitbags.

Then quit bitching about it and grow some balls and stop paying. Oh what's that? You're afraid of the consequences? Yeah, I thought so.

Don't tell me what I can't talk to you about when you won't do anything.

>>510690354
Yeah, all that, whatever, and you think your ass is immune to raging shitbags taking frustration out on you? No but really, answer the question. everyone gets a free house. Who gets the best ones.

>>510689288
Rent Culture has been absolutely devastating to society and must be stopped. I would almost be amicable to a middle ground in which you can rent but once the rent you have paid equals the value of the dwelling you own it, but that is too easy to abuse. It must be all or nothing.

>>510689405
Because no one uses motels as motels anymore, due to Rent Culture.

>>510690592
Ok, I can see how you’d say that. But come on, everybody gets free housing. But you get one in a shitty part of town, and Ledericus gets ocean front view. inequities always exist

>>510661781 (OP)
There's absolutely no reason we keep those guys alive

>>510683944
It also gives them the right to take it all away and give to developers to build more tofu commieblocks that people will buy without ever seeing

>>510666915
>Everything should be subscription based:

>>510661781 (OP)
Property tax. 50 different states with 50 different laws. Midwit loser seethe thread. Pathetic.

>>510661781 (OP)
>shilling for property taxes
FUCK YOU AND KILL YOURSELF

>>510688783
>uses the $5000 to buy guns instead
come and take it

>>510667245
what type of deluded fool lives in a HAO. there are no advantages to this any more.
this is what I do
>live in the best suburb in my city
>be wealthy
>maintain the most average looking house
>property looks neglected even from the street
>never been robbed
because criminal minded nigger faggots will always go to the premium targets in my street over my house. meanwhile my neighbours get hit all the time

Rentoids support property tax because they are too dumb to realize they are paying their landlord's property tax
In fact they are paying even more property tax per building value than homeowners, since homeowners get a deduction that renters don't.
A study found that the average renter in TX pays about 30% more rent solely due to property tax.