fellow Slavs, did Russians ever had a chance or it was never meant to be? will they ever escape their "Special regime"?

>>510726194 (OP)
1917
1991-2004ish

>>510726194 (OP)
Russia - no fucking way
Siberia - vvill be free and democratic. One day

>>510726194 (OP)
Democratic like what?

Romania? France? Germany?
The only bigger meme than democracy is freedom of press.

>Democratic like what?

>Romania? France? Germany?
>The only bigger meme than democracy is freedom of press.

>>510726194 (OP)
I believe that the future of Russia is inside the EU when Putler dies

>>510726197
>thirdies see Romania as some kind of advanced civilization
Kek

Also watch how Zelensky will never leave his throne no matter how fucked Ukraine will be

>>510726200
>thirdie doesn't even know why this countries were mentioned

>>510726196
and without ruzzians, they all shout be genocided including self-hating libshits like you
ruzzia should be balkanized and all smaller oppressed nations will be free again

never meant to be, some cultures (including ours) are too primitive to understand democracy and will ALWAYS fall for the authoritarian meme. Now watch people greentexting democracy and posting stupid examples of bad laws or something while everyone they know flees west

>>510726202
Higher standards of living than Russia?

>>510726197
Oh god, of course there is always bias but it's very easy to understand the difference between a country where different views can debate and a country where it basically doesnt exist. Here they keep inviting in tv talk shows people with opposite views on gaza, ukraine, and many other suff, while where you live this doesnt happen.

>>510726203
>ruzzia should be balkanized
True. And Siberia need to be free and stronk.

>>510726194 (OP)
>did Russians ever had a chance
Yes, and there were a lot of chances. The problem is that Russians never wanted democracy, neither for themselves not for the others. Their wet dream is to turn everything into a big pile of garbage and sit on top of it like king of the hill, preventing everyone from fixing what they've done.

>>510726206
What do these pointless TV debates ever do? Panem et circenses.

>>510726207
I wish I had Russian credentials so I could report you to MVD

>>510726206
you are not supposed to have opposite views in society in wartime, never ever worked in human history

>>510726209
not the point of the argument, it's about being able to debate about issues and eventually find also a middle ground compared to countries where you basically have no voice in chapter because the guy on the top wants to do it his way and sends you to jail if you dare to protest

>>510726194 (OP)
Russians like authoritarianism
If you allowed russians to vote
They would vote for putin.
Russians beat liberashkas in school and the army, bully faggots and trannies, etc

>>510726212
What voice do you have personally? And what middle ground is there when everything boils down to “more gibs to browns and women” every single time?

Russians are too retarded, they need a nation-wide buckbreaking like we got in 1945, but they have nooks so that's not happening, so their cancer will continue

>>510726206
Democracy doesn't exist, you vote representatives that do whatever they want to get voted again, you don't vote policy.

A good example is how the british voted to reduce migration and their elected offiicials, who in liberal democracy only respond to a unelected bureucracy and donors, NGOs, the press, only increased brown migration that secured they will get voted again.

Britain is a perfect example of an authoritarian liberal democracy where questioning diversity gets the pigs in your door.
Where saying you dont want pakis in london ruling you and your economy gets you a terrorism charge.

Democracy is just a cover up for oligarchy, the oligarchy gets to switch mask every 4 years and the proles feel empowered

>>510726211
If you had that, maybe there wouldnt even be a war and almost 1 million and a half people would still be alive. People protested a lot during vietnam, and it was absolutely worth it

>>510726194 (OP)
we are more democratic than the west doe

>>510726194 (OP)
democracy works only on the mono-ethnic and the maritime trading countries.
democracy afflicted a lot of Russians in the 90's.

>>510726217
>and almost 1 million and a half people would still be alive
Ukrainians aren't people

>>510726217
Liberashkas are the enemy within though?
Why would you listen to groomers that want to groom white kids into castration and negro worship?

>>510726215
This.

>>510726194 (OP)
People will call me a zigger even though I resent Russia but:
Have you ever thought that maybe their "special regime" is a necessity?
I can fully understand that they don't want to be an American puppet like 95% of all other countries on earth.
What did "democracy" get them?
De-Industrialization and poverty.
Since Putin is in power they are doing their own thing again and if I was a Russian I would support that.

>>510726214
The premise of democracy is so funny because it basically goes like "we all must want the same thing" because how else you justify letting some bantu or foid vote

>>510726214
I have the freedom the pursue a political career if i wanted to, but for me it's enough being able to freely discuss about stuff without having to fear jail. Also very dull to reduce everything at that, like there aint proper issues to discuss. Germany is a country which should seriously start focusing on its industrial policy and energetic plan, but if people are more interested in talking about nonsense then it's a different story.

>>510726216
The problem is not the tool but how you use it, as they say. Im not saying it's a perfect system, but if you care about change then start expecting from politicians less propaganda, more pragmatism and being able to offer concrete solutions instead of using empty rethoric.

Once we get democracy we establish totalitarianism, it's our democratic choice.

>>510726220
forever a teenager

>>510726221
I suggest you to unplug the internet and live in real life, because to reduce everything in those terms only shows that you do not understand how the real world works

>>510726225
>The problem is not the tool but how you use it, as they say.
The tool is not a static element.
Democracy is a system and systems reform over time
If democracy is allowed to follow its path it will decay into authoritarianism and a system that is resilent to reform.
America is one of the oldest democracies in earth and it shows what democracies become over time

Uniparties controlled by an oligarchy that plays both teams and switch mask every certain time to keep an appearence of legitimacy.
While the real power, however, is retained in unelected institutions

You dont vote your press, you dont vote your financial sector, you dont vote your academia, you dont vote your NGOs, you dont vote foreign policy, you dont vote international law.
Your population is propagandized by the PMC/intelligentsia and then they are given some show to legitimice their rule.

In non democratic governments your ruling class is held accountable, in democracy they switch public faces each 4 years

>>510726196
why do you want an independent siberia?

>>510726229
Siberians are descendants of Cossacks (i.e Ukrainians) which means we are more Western-minded and liberal.
I don't want to live in one country with russian subhumans which always want to live in shit and turn neighboring countries in shitholes like Russia itself.

>>510726201
>>510726211
zero self awareness award

>>510726228
>In non democratic governments your ruling class is held accountable
your post had some legitimacy until this sentence

>>510726232
But it is.
Puting is always with a hand up his ass because one bad move and his government can collapse

The ruling class and the appointed authorties are in the frontline because they are the source of legitimacy.
Why do you think israel constnatly kills the leadership of its enemies?
Because without them, their regime crumbles.

Meanwhile in democracies killing a president or a governor meams nothing
That kind of people is switched in regular basis.
There is always replacements set in place to keep the same agenda going.
It is a built-in part of the system that public elected officials are in constant rotation

>>510726233
>one bad move and his government can collapse
that's pure bullshit though

>>510726230
>Siberians are descendants of Cossacks (i.e Ukrainians)
this explains the hiv and retardation

>democracy
Doesn't exist, and not sure if it ever existed

Democracy is a bad system you can’t get anything big done

>>510726234
Its not, authoritarian governments are much less resilent to collapse than democracy
Popular discontent is accumulated over time.
Meanwhile in democracy the only accountability there is expressed as some cathartic election each 4 years where the appointed parties get ounished while the actual oligarchy and long term project remains in place.
The point of democracy is that; since the political class is constantly changing, power consolidates in that which remains unchanged, and that is the oligarchy and the PMC class.
Whereas in authoritarian governments power is consolidated in the static political class.
So when you overthrow it you are actually changing the power structure

>>510726238
>authoritarian governments are much less resilent to collapse than democracy
show me a democratic leader who's been ruling for 30+ years and I'll show you several authoritarian ones

>>510726239

Democracy is a system, not a singular leader.
You are literally missing the point i made.


Regime changes are constantly happening in authoritarian governments.
Syria fell last year, iraq was destabilized by a war, lybia got bombed into a balkanized state, etc.
A small change in the power structure can cause a major reform in the system.

Meanwhile in democracies leaders are consrantly changing
You can kill trump but the republican vs democrat dialectics will continue, and more important, both parties will still be under control of the same jewish oligarchy.
You need to kill the academics, you need to kill wall street investors, you need to kill the oligarchs which are all private and at the same time you need to delegitimize the american system as a uniparty.
That is MUCH more hard to do than simply killing putin or the ayatollah and causing a regime change in russia or iran

Russia was ALWAYS democratic
>Rurik = elected by Gostomysl'
>Godunov = elected by zemsky sobor
>Romanov = elected by zemsky sobor
>Lenin, Stalin etc = elected by soviet
>Yeltsin, Putin = elected by direct vote

cope seeth dillate if earth was named after one country it would be called Russia. Because we're best at governing territory hence we do most of it

>>510726198
Democratic like what?

Ukraine? Romania? France? Germany?
The only bigger meme than democracy is freedom of press.

>>510726230
Cossaks were not an etnicity, but an estate. They were just frontier dwellers.

>>510726196
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>>510726215
Bahahaha what a bunch of butt blasted faggots. You butthurt belters are doomed by god homself to be anally gaped by ziggers for all eternity with no end