One pattern I noticed among leftists, artists and all of these hobbies that attract these people is that they suck at teaching. they suck at communicating knowledge.

Maybe it is because their core is to deny reality and logic? That's why the best teachers are in logical and precise fields like math and topics like playing guitar or drawing result in "just draw" instead of giving good resources.

>>510729199 (OP)
Maybe you're not artistic, just autistic, bro

>>510729199 (OP)
Drawing is largely pure practice. You can't distill it into precise, logical steps beyond "start with simple shapes" and "add landmarks", and expect to produce hot enough porn to sell in a fanbox.

>>510729199 (OP)
its called "gatekeeping".
basically someone who has a skill will try and teach people wrong, not at all or really sloppy so these other people never aquire the skill and outdo their teacher.
that way the skilled gatekeeper can stay relevant.

>>510729199 (OP)
True, it's an issue with self centered thought. Most leftists can only think in terms of their own identity/feelings/morality and fail to connect with their students in meaningful ways. Compassion without context only leads to isolation.

>>510729199 (OP)
You already posted this on /v/ lil bro, use AI if you suck that much, this generation encourages and rewards mediocrity anyway

>>510730076
gatekeeping is socially encouraged because the initial work isn't properly rewarded, hence why patent laws exist for example

>>510731093
gatekeeping is brown coded and usually practiced by brown people.

>>510729199 (OP)
>westoids suck at teaching
ftfy

>>510729199 (OP)
drawing is extremely logical and precise. when you are told to "just draw" its the same as a fat person complaining that people tell him to "stop eating". you are lazy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLspGz72a3U

>>510731239
What are you smoking
Gatkeeping was originally done by nerds/Whites to keep fags/women/shitskins out of their hobbies

>>510729199 (OP)
>Man, I suck at this
>How can I blame this on my ENEMIES!!!?
Have you tried reading a book? There is no "six easy steps to drawing porn!" You have to learn about anatomy, then perspective, then angles, then practice, then practice, then you'll finally know why artists are maniacal, deluded freaks.

>>510729199 (OP)
you should take a break from politics if you think like this

>>510729199 (OP)

>>510729199 (OP)
Cope
All the most highly educated states, mostly in New England, are all deep blue states.
Meanwhile, right wing states are full of retards.

Clearly, leftists are better at teaching

>>510730076
This isn’t always true. Many people refuse to rtfm

>>510729199 (OP)
I always love art tutorials.
>start with a simple shape
>then draw the rest

Dude, it's easy to draw. Even slavs can draw.
You literally repeat same shit, take photo, draw circles etc, add colours - done.

Just watch YouTube or ask AI.

>>510729866
Draftsmanship is a skill, and you do need to be taught it to do it well.
It's been an issue for art schools for decades now
pic is an intro to a book from 2 decades ag,o and the problem has not gotten better in the intervening years

>>510733642
Because guides talk only about what's important.
Just watch video how to colour image.

Main thing is shape.

In game company which who I work they literally just draw item shape and run AI.

>>510729199 (OP)
Good artists have overdeloped occipital brain lobes, you can tell in MRIs. This cant be taught, they are just born like that. They dont think about space and colors like normal people do.

>>510729866
This, its literally a matter of
>Wow how do you get so good at (what ever artistic talent/skill)
>Easy, you do (Artistic skill/talent) Badly many many times over until you eventually start doing it well.
DESU its more that people who dont do it think that its really easy to do when the reality is, its not.

>>510730076
Exactly, most notable are university professors -- I have yet to meet one who can produce learning material that impresses me. They just recommend giant books with at least twice the material of the actual course and compile shitty slide shows. I'm convinced they do it on purpose, there is no other reasonable explanation. I did encounter some nicely written exams though, but that comes after you're supposed to learn the course material.

Stop blaming the left for every single fucking thing.

>>510734219
Talented people need less practice and do much better work. Its just like women in sports.
Good artists have oversized occipital lobes

>>510733642
>>510729199 (OP)
Yeah it's funny how rare a detailed tutorial is.

>>510734219
In general, that's how most skills work. I do subscribe to the idea that some people are more naturally talented at some things and thus can learn faster. But ultimately, it comes down to practicing correctly at the end of the day.

>>510729199 (OP)
>takes random quick lesson from a topic that is heavily subjective and varied in skill
>surprised that the given lesson isn't universal and comprehensive of all art

>>510734372
The left ruined art, music, film, poetry. Even cuisine. Well, Jews and the left.

>>510729866
>Drawing is largely pure practice.
It does take actually drawing to get good, yes.
>You can't distill it into precise, logical steps beyond "start with simple shapes" and "add landmarks"
Bullshit. Every technique and fundamental can be taught using logical steps. Anatomy, for instance.
>and expect to produce hot enough porn to sell in a fanbox.
Porn artists are no better than prostitutes. All their practice and training, just so they can whore out the works of their hands making filth. It's why I never feel even the slightest bit of pitty for them when their precious styles get vacuumed up by AI that lets randos shit out 1,000 pieces that look like theirs a week for pennies to their ridiculous commissions dollars.

>>510733729
Is it still needed with photography and CAD?

>>510734375
can any artists explain why my drawings always look better when i use a small brush?

>>510735408
yes

>>510734010
As someone that is naturally good at drawing, it absolutely can be trained into you. And training and education is the only way through when you hit roadblocks in natural ability.
This applies to any skill as well.

>>510729199 (OP)
(1/2)
Anon you gotta take more responsibility for yourself
No one actually knows what level you are when they make a tutorial, video, book or whatever
But these single images do help some people who are probably closer than further to the creator’s level
But since the creator doesn’t know YOU, they aren’t tailor making their content for you. Go figure
I’ll make a tier list for you when it comes art education
Best tier
>An experienced mentor and art educator who you are working with your years and it’s their full time job to mentor people and they can do what you want to
>Parents who are also artists who have been teaching you since you were a kid
The reason why these are the best is because they can tailor make their lessons for you and give you information that you need at the right time
great tier
>Ateliers and art schools that focus on fundamentals and a structured lesson plan
>art friends who are better artists than you but not so much better that the advice they give is lost
These are good because even if its a little less tailor made for you, you are put in an environment with peers who you can play off of and have stuff you have a hard time understanding explained to you better

>>510735989
(2/2)
Good tier but you can’t use only 1
>video courses and books that are recommended by most people
>general art communities
These are good but can be more mixed depending on what you find. That’s the tricky part but they’re good because you are getting information from good sources and in a community where your environment is focused on learning art. Ideally you should be learning from multiple videos, and books on the same subject and in multiple communities that are good
You should be learning from multiple videos because you the instructor isn’t there to reexplain things you don’t understand but their information is ideally structured and you learn from multiple videos on the same subject so you can hear the same information but recontextualized. This sounds like a lot of work but if you don’t understand something, its important to see how other people explain it beyond the first source
Same goes for books but the way i think about books is that they’re more like an artist’s notes. That information is only valuable if you already kinda know the information
Bad tier
>single image tutorials
>artist so much better than you that their advice is just lost on you
>spite and jealousy
Single images suck for the reasons above, but are good when you are more experienced
It’s cool to have god tier art friends but these people are busy and can’t whip your ass on how to get good and even if they’re trying to help you, they are so far away from being a beginner that they’ve forgotten why you’re struggling on things easy for them. None of this is with malice, it’s just how it is. You’ll understand when you’re older
Spite and jealousy are also just bad places to fuel your artist growth, you won’t get that far with that chip on your shoulder

>>510729199 (OP)
It's because leftists don't know how to create.

Look at your example. It's pure shit. Would you buy art drawn by whoever made it? Be honest, you fucking cuck.

Are you the guy from the comic, OP?

>>510736169
Bonus
Also remember, you won’t learn things you don’t respect. Don’t be the asshole you tries to learn perspective for an hour and bitch about how you don’t need it and spend more time looking for reasons why you don’t need to learn it rather than just learning it
Be disciplined and have faith in the process

>>510735887
Just like an 8 year old girl could beat mike tyson in his prime, just a matter of training

>>510736204
Not very kind, al.

>>510734010
Humans are naturally inclined to observe like artists and artists aren’t some kind of mutant
Everyone symbol draws, because that’s the most you need to explain that tigers are dangerous when making a warning sign

Art training is learning to use your eyes to stop symbol drawing

>>510736565
*humans aren’t naturally inclined

>>510729199 (OP)
It is this simple. Learn to draw 3d shapes and everything becomes easy to draw. If you are struggling, its because you arent understanding the shapes

>>510736355
Look I won't say that there isn't some physical limitation but the brain being quite plastic is capable of far more than most are willing to or even understand how to push it.
This is partly why mentorship is important.

>>510734494
my opinion on this is, if you are born imaginative (and i believe imagination is one of the few things youre born with a certain amount of and it cant be learned) then you will tend to draw or be creative from a young age. so as an adult it appears that youre 'naturally' good at it, when really youve been in training from an early age

>>510729199 (OP)
some fields are best learned through doing
fighting drawing and music can benefit from learning specific techniques but the only reliable way to get better at that sort of thing is to just keep doing it
just draw sounds stupid but it's good advice

>>510736829
Everyone draws at a young age
Very few people have parents who know how to properly support their interests like that
Most talented people just have good parents

Mozart was considered a 1 and a million boy geniuses but it makes more sense when you learn that his dad was a music teacher

>>510729319
Here's a liberal now

The fundamentals of everything you do are objective
Aesthetics are objective
They are measurable and repeatable

If you deny that they exist you can not transfer your knowledge. You can only hope SOME people will re-invent or guess at them on their own.

>>510735817
Wow you convinced me.

>>510736953
My advice is to copy every page from an art book. It's a lot faster and more brain dead than searching for references until you find something interesting and it forces you to draw things you would otherwise overlook.

>>510735547
I'd say the one on the top you used too small a brush.

>>510736744
you can learn all this stuff and when confronted with a life model it won't do you any good at all. drawing properly is hard practice and it takes years to be good.

>>510733479
>>510729199 (OP)
>>510736744
Drawing is too easy.

>>510737185
i got good results with a desk lamp and arranging shit on a coffee table to get different light shadow refraction ect
scalable difficulty for days when you want to go hard and days when you can't be fucked

Geniuses are rarely good teachers because they didn't have to go through the effort and struggle to learn something. They cant explain the method because it does just come naturally to them. Those who can, do. Those who cant, teach. Sounds like a 'you'problem lil bro.

>>510737342
Are you retarded? Everyone uses construction and gesture drawing with real models. When you're good, you're just doing some of the work automatically in your head but it's still just boxes and spheres in the end,.

>>510737175
Learning perspective is learning how to properly think in 3d
If you can’t think in 3d you can’t draw
Reference helps but is limiting when you don’t understand how to rotate that object on paper
Don’t be a slave to your reference
Maybe you can do it in your head, but if you don’t know how to draw something, you don’t really understand it

Auto CAD helps, but you want to be able to learn how to sketch anything before needing to set up shit in 3d. Your process becomes a lot more efficient when you know have an intimate understanding of 3d

Just learn perspective dude. Literally every fundamental builds off it, and it doesn’t take that long to really learn it. It’s just kinda boring

>>510737342
I think looking at still photos and trying to draw those are important because it forces you to start from shapes that you come up with on your own, a generative process that you have to get good at in order to get good at drawing real life subjects. Learning to look with only one eye is also good, so that way your brain doesn't have to translate two seperate perspectives,

>>510735989
>>510736169
Are you a good artist? I’m looking for artist friends ever since I stopped majoring in art because the teacher was horrible, but I miss the community and notice that my progress is slower without their perspectives and input. I also miss giving encouragement and advice to others. Are you interested in collaborating on self-taught lesson plans? It would be cool to keep each other mutually accountable like the art version of a gym buddy.
I’ll post some of my art in a second

>>510737069
i agree that every child draws at a young age, but for some reason no one understands most lose interest and stop. i think its the imaginative ones who keep going, there are plenty people who's parents were music teachers and encouraged them to play instruments but they still didnt end up being Mozart.

>>510737481
And I mean "genius" in the classical sense of someone who is innately good at something, not today's sense of "wow that guy's really smart!"

>>510729199 (OP)
Good job on picking up on this.
What I’ve noticed too is that their “guides” arent usually focused on actually teaching you what to do. Rather, them making a guide is just another way for them to brag and show off their ability.

>>510729199 (OP)
This guide does not teach a person how to draw a woman’s body, rather, it showcases the artists ability to do so.
It’s a bragging mechanism disguised as a guide to get the person more attention than they otherwise would have gotten.
So it’s a combination of that and >>510730076 this.
Real teachers won’t do this. They will give you the information in the easiest follow way, without gate keeping.
That’s why you pay them for lessons. So that they don’t have an incentive to gate keep.

>>510729199 (OP)
I'm not interested in drawing humans. I want to draw landscapes but I'm frustrated with the difference in what I can imagine vs what I can actually produce on the sheet of paper (ie a crock of shit)

>>510729199 (OP)
It's because they have no internal monologue. It's very hard to teach people when you can't imagine how they are perceiving you.

>>510737662
Well there is definitely a difference between a parent helping a child to learn an art and a parent whip snapping to get them to learn the art because it makes them look like "good parents".
I'm not asian, but in asian households I know there is way to much of the latter.
That being said pushing through walls by work and sometimes pain is sometimes a necessary part in a person's learning process.

>>510735989
>>510737622
Here’s something I did yesterday in acrylic markers. This was just for fun, but I usually draw realism from observation.
If you’re interested in sharpening each other into better artists, hit me up
discord : q89d3pyr

>>510737662
Most people stop because they realize they can’t draw
They don’t have the resources to learn how to correct or the discipline to power through feeling like shit. Discipline is also something given by good parents
Talented people had the support

Also art isn’t actually something you need to learn for your life, so if its hard and you’re not having fun you just give up there’s more important things in life for most people

Being that person to where art is the most important thing in their life sucks but i get it

>>510729199 (OP)
> Maybe it is because their core is to deny reality and logic?
It is because they have not been offered an incentive to properly teach.
You are essentially a stranger trying to copy something they are skilled at, for free, and expecting them to spend their time teaching you. For this reason they have no incentive to do a good job of teaching you, and so they will of course act in their own interest and use it as a way to brag instead.
They essentially turn you into a tool that they can then use to spread awareness about their own skills and abilities while keeping you unskilled and uneducated.
This is why if you ever do try to find a proper senpai it’s imperative that you incentivise them properly first and make your intentions clear.

>>510737069
>Mozart was considered a 1 and a million boy geniuses
I know you didn't mean it literally but being one in a million nowadays isnt anything special. In a world with 8 billion people are there 8,000 Mozarts out there today? Not even close. Historical greatness is more on the scale of 1 in 5 billion.

>>510730969
I didn't, I saw the image and thought this was a curious topic.
4chan is not one person.

>>510737993
Actually I'll change that to greatness is 1 in 5 billion - historical greatness is pure circumstance on top of that.

>>510731447
"Just draw" isn't synonymous with teaching perspectives.

I've known people saying that to others that didn't even know about perspective.
"Just draw" isn't good advice if they don't know how to draw

>>510736829
I think creativity is definitely one of those things that's just mostly innate and can't really be taught. You can learn more things to help you better express your inner creativity, but I don't think anyone can just "learn it". So I agree to some extent. But I still believe there is a natural talent to. Just speaking from a musician's perspective here, I think there are some instruments that feel natural to people and others that don't. I personally had a natural inclination towards bass playing, but I am absolutely a dog shit guitar player. They look like similar things but they're more different than you think. The techniques that are involved in playing bass all felt natural to me whereas guitar never felt right. So yeah if I hunker down and practice, I could probably become a decent guitarist. But I doubt I'll ever get to the level of the guitar players in my band because they're pretty clearly gifted guitar players. Likewise, I doubt they could ever be as good of a bass player as myself (excuse the brag).

>>510737993
I do mean that literally
Having good parents isn’t that rare anymore and if you didn’t have that advantage then it sucks to suck because you are left behind like most people
Sucks for most of us

>>510737929
Many people at a young age can be pushed into being a "virtuoso" but would have much rather been doing anything else

>>510737957
ok i half agree, especially the part about people stopping drawing when they found out that do it realistically is hard. in that point you need to be motivated externally or internally, either through motivated parents like you said or for the really good ones (i think) the necessity of expressing yourself or getting something out of your system.

>>510729199 (OP)
>Leftists suck at teaching
the destruction of education and art was planned

>>510738339
Can you elaborate?

Rightoid artists barely contribute any art at all because they all they can is rigidly adhering to the past. AI is the most "creative" rightoid endeavor.

>>510729199 (OP)
>rightoids are so low iq and uncreative and imperceptive they can't figure out basic figure drawing

>>510738595
Ai isn’t rightwing
Big tech is only calling itself rightwing because they know they can’t fool leftists

I’ve met many right learning artists, but artists tend to be apolitical since they just want to draw and not preach
Art itself is as conservative as it is liberal since learning art fundamentals is traditional and focuses on respecting the masters

this is a cool thread

i made a pretty good effort of teaching myself to draw, but i got derailed by the social media aspect of it. i really, REALLY hate social media (4chinz aside) and it seems like all artists of substance exist almost entirely as social media entities. as someone who never uses reddit, facebook, instagram, twitter or anything it was like getting my brain dunked in acid - the marketing, the simping, the shilling, the FOMOing and competition and humblebragging, it was too much for me, art brings out whats inside and it kept dredging up horrible things for me, so i just stopped. i think art is really cool though, my favorite is Garth Ennis and his co artists - not his stories necessarily but all his characters. anyway good luck to you artfags

>>510735547
Can add more details obv

>>510729199 (OP)
The right suck at art

>>510739083
Wrong, but I don't have the time to work on it either :(

>>510729199 (OP)
its a good tutorial obviously what matters, the last and the step before that. going from shit to nice will never be explained. ever.

they dont want you to have nice things. then you wont continue subscribing their patreon giving them 20k/month teaching you how to draw tranime.

>>510734315
You don't learn a lot of relevant things when doing a non stem degree in uni. Even so, many STEM degrees are littered with courses that are filler and only useful when pursuing a career in academics. The problem is that academia is a worthless circlejerk that no longer produces novel research. That is done by corporations in modern day. Probably why EU countries fell behind so much compared to China and US, EU countries invest heavily into research and hopes it leads to innovation in the corporate world. It just doesn't. Maybe this worked in the past but in the present with how widespread academic fraud is and how big the circlejerk has gotten it doesn't. There's no incentive to deliver quality novel research anymore. Just produce a neatly written paper that can serve as someone else's citation slop that also makes a neatly written paper with 0 actual use.

>>510738595
Acknowledging and respecting art history is the basis for constructing timeless, thought-provoking art pieces. What have leftist artists contributed besides cubism and postmodernist nonsense (aka money-laundering for rich art kikes), which fundamentally reject the beauty of the Western civilization appreciated by previous masters? Salvatore Dali btfos everything the left has "contributed" to the arts in perpetuity. That's why they're seething about AI, it literally destroyed their "talent" monopoly.

>>510739968
it has all been invented, what will come forth soon is allready there. what we needed to fullfil our purpos has been done.

This is true at least in my experience.
My dad trained as a draughtsman in the soviet union (he became an engineer) and he taught me the fundamentals when I was a kid. The only other good drawing teachers/mentors I ever met beyond him were:
>a Chinese computer scientist
>a professor at my uni who often spoke to me about The Protocols and his disdain for churkas
>a conservative Englishman painter

/Pol/it/IC/s
>Inb4 phone posting format pic fag
No

>>510739083
The WEST sucks at art (now)....

>>510740627
Very nice. Why lined paper tho?

Who cares just tell the AI what to draw lmao

>>510729199 (OP)
>Maybe it is because their core is to deny reality and logic?
I think the issue is that they just assume everyone thinks like them, and cant comprehend that other people think in different ways

This is why, when they try to push their politics, they don't try to dumb down the language for the masses, they just lie and manipulate them instead because they assume they are retarded and they would never understand their "genius"
That's why their "memes" are "wordswordswordswords", because they can't comprehend that the other side values brevity and laconism

>>510734375
honestly i'd learn to draw but it seems like a massive time sink, saved picrel regardless.

>>510740627
Drawing is a good hobby. Good for you anon.

>>510740627
very nice

>>510729199 (OP)
It's lack of empathy. They are prejudiced in their worldview and "knowledge level" and are incapable of putting themselves in the shoes of their students.

>>510729199 (OP)
Nah, it's just that rightoids can't create art

>>510741683
It's different for different people. I've seen people make no progress at all after years, but others go from shitty deviant art tier doodles to making $1800 a month on patreon in 4 months.

>>510741060
Just started a new job so keeping myself busy when I'm bored and also use it for notes.
>>510741757
Thank you very much, I don't do it nearly enough but when I do I always feel better

>>510737766
This 100%

You need to know the fundies rest is just mileage

but I quit drawing for now because AI has me demoralized

>>510743978
Do not quit, I did and and I came crawling back like a beaten housewife. Save yourself the trouble, learn to love it

>>510743978
It was fun learning and doing things like inktober and drawing big fat titties maybe I'll start agasin

>>510743978
Any learning recommendations for an absolute drawlet? I've got fucked up hands and nerve damage but fuck it man. Any book you'd recommend?

>>510744297
Yes, "The art and science of drawing" is really good

>>510743292
>Just started a new job so keeping myself busy when I'm bored
Sounds good, anon. Consider getting a cheap blank notepad at some point tho. Feels good to have a collection of your own sketches all in one place as it allows you to easily and quickly develop ideas and improve your skills (through self-critique) simply by opening up a single notepad.

>>510729199 (OP)
Step 1: Create a solid foundation. Get elementary school textbooks on mathematics, geometry, physics (optics diagrams, how lines break), biology (plant and animal anatomy). Learn basic shapes, how to draw with a compass and rulers. Proceed to high school textbooks on same subjects. Then find technical drawing textbooks - learn about technical lettering, alphabet of lines, dimensions. Then go to Internet Archive and search for "subject: Architecture" and "subject: Drawing" and sort the results by date published. Find the oldest books, look at the drawings, and ignore the text. It will help you learn about perspective.

Step 2: Increase your knowledge. Learn about the history of art, architecture and sculpting. Vocabulary terms. Chronology. The periods from prehistoric, to modern. Styles, techniques, materials, utensils. Famous landscapes, buildings, artists, their works. There is a torrent on /t/ about preserving European culture, you can find a link for European art. Learn how to read a painting, what is a composition, motif. Color mixing, color combination etc.

Step 3: Understand your purpose. Learn about the philosophy of aesthetics, and beauty. When it appeared, where it fits in the history of philosophy. Why it exists. Why it is important.

>>510729199 (OP)
Haram drawing is haram.
you must seek Allah and kiss carpet to honor him.

>>510730969
but /v/ users are the worst.

>>510744229
Man all I can say is don't stop drawing, and a word of advice copy artist that capture your imagination, do studies of their work. Copy with the image next to you, then draw it again but do it from memory. Then compare to original, make note of mistakes and repeat once more. Its like exercise for your visual memory, building and strengthening your library of references

>>510741683
same tbqh

>>510729199 (OP)
math is completely overrun by leftists.

>>510740779
the west doesn't suck at art it's perfectly capable. they just hate beauty.

>>510744551
Oh don't you worry, I got books everywhere, but when a urge strikes Its like being fucking possessed.

>>510729199 (OP)
Seems pretty straight forward to me...
Although I'd make her tits bigger.

>>510745148
Forgot pic

>>510743159
interesting and noted
>>510744756
good to know i'm not alone

>>510735887
This is what i drew during pharmacy school when I was bored. Sometimes I wish I took drawing courses. I can't draw real objects to save my life but I can abstract doodle your face off

>In the past: learn to draw under guidance of an experiences artists from casts, other drawings and then a model, and then you progress to painting a model and then you can do whatever the fuck you want with these skills
>Now:uhm le rules and standards are hecking opressive...uz be free!!
>Teacher how do I draw heda???
>Just feel it mang...it doesnt have to be a likeness...or just use a foto or projector lmao...its all illusionary...no im not gonna teach you any anatomy or how to use tonal values because I dont know any of this shit myself lol.

>>510744297
I'd say check out David finch, Aaron Blaise, Peter Han, Rodgon the artist (very cringe but damn good cartoonist), eddizart, and watch fucking Manben!
If you have an artistic bone in you body the amount of discussion and depth around art and the medium of visual storytelling is immaculate.
But yeah the best is for you to be watching other artists at work or at least trying to emulate their work.

>>510729199 (OP)
I'm trying to learn art and a lot of the youtube tutorials suck. Most of them aren't really artists as much as they are content creators. Their youtube channel is nothing but propaganda for their art course.
What usually happens is, there's an old book (or a long youtube video of an university class). Youtuber takes this, boils it down to 20-30 minutes. Another youtuber shows up, it's now 5 minutes long. Another youtube shows up, it's the same video, but the title is now a clickbait.
Or, it's something like Marc Brunet, who every once in a while, uploads the same video "Learn to draw faces! How to draw faces! Draw faces in 7 days! This exercise will improve your faces!" and it's just the Loomis Method again and again.
Learning art is so rough.

>>510729199 (OP)
One pattern I noticed among leftists, artists and all of these hobbies that attract these people is they are the only people that participate in these hobbies in any meaningful and productive way and people like me(politcally inept i.e i say "leftist" unironically) cant create anything but make really cool threads for my mixed raced friends on a faggot website

>>510744775
How?

>>510734628
>Bullshit. Every technique and fundamental can be taught using logical steps. Anatomy, for instance.
You can study anatomy for years and you’ll still be shit at drawing figures unless you actually draw a lot of figures. And once you’ve drawn thousands and thousands of figures, it starts to just become part of your intuition rather than something where you have to consciously think about all of the anatomical rules and details. And you’re not necessarily going to be able to teach that intuition to someone else. Teaching is a skill of its own, it’s not something that just comes naturally just from knowing something. Most native speakers suck at teaching their native language to someone as a second language

>>510729199 (OP)
HOWIE THREAD
DO NOT ENGAGE

>>510729199 (OP)
how to draw tits = two circles

>>510745885
>learn to draw under guidance of an experiences artists from casts, other drawings and then a model, and then you progress to painting a model and then you can do whatever the fuck you want with these skills
You can still do that, retard. It costs money. A lot of it. Like it always has.

>>510733729
It ain't art school if there isn't life drawing.
>>510735408
More than ever before. Students get all this detailed training on some technology (that's outdated in five years, gotta go back for another degree) and in never learning to draw they never learn to think with their hands. No amount of CAD or lenses can make up for that.
Bauhaus-style arts education is and always will be the best method for teaching the majority of artists.

>>510741683
its a hobby
if you don't already have interest in doing it there's not much to convince you otherwise
if you do you have interested in it but got demoralized, there is help for that

>>510746678
You'll know you've found a good video or book or course or teacher if you see immediate progress within weeks, think about how long it takes to learn a new word, when you really focus. The language analogy is a good one, each aspect of being an artist is like a word in your vocabulary, putting it all together turns into sentences etc. the more you learn the faster it gets the more nuanced you become.

>>510729199 (OP)
bro just keep drawing it's not that complicated

>>510744297
start with two circles every time

>>510729199 (OP)

>logic
>rhetoric
>grammar

Not surprising, modern lefties can't understand those three things. They can't understand them because in order to do so you must deal with objective reality as it is.

They're just aggressively stupid with the inability to self-reflect.

>>510736744

lmao what in the fuck is this

>>510748181
>Once upon a time there was someone who really liked robots.
>They spent a lot of effort learning art so that they could draw robots.
>One day they had to draw humans though.
>How terrible!
>But wait, it turns out that many of the skills learned to draw robots can help draw humans.
>Wow, thought the robot fag. Everyone should learn to draw robots!
That is probably the origin of that picture.